What if it's Just wait, something cool is going to happen. And welcome back to Facts or Frauds. Make sure you hit the thumbs up button, you subscribe, and ring that bell for notifications so the next time we premiere a video you can be in the live chat with everyone else, and leave a comment in the comment section tell me what you think. And friends, it's time to go to Detroit, Michigan at the 36th District Court. What you are witnessing is real. Person just joined the call, Z855, what's your name, please? Uh I'm here by way of More Science Temple of America, Davis Bay. What time was your What time was your case scheduled for? I just I was uh just got switched. I was in the Miss uh Alicia Coleman's room. They just told me for the last half hour I was in the wrong room. And they just instructed to help me find the correct room where I was supposed to be in. And your name is what again? I'm here by way of More Science Temple of America, the executive parent. I am David Bay. David Bay? Davis Bay. I'm here representing the account here Can I get your case number? I'm sorry. Can I please Can I have your case number, sir? Yes. It is 2034 7344. Thank you. And I was just uh received this 3 days ago. But the document said that it was stated September 28th. Okay, thank you, sir. Speak to me. Pardon me? I said thank I said okay, thank you, sir. Yeah, um your honor. Yes. We did that was one of Mr. Abbott's case. 844 And what time? Um It was at 9:40. And your honor could I'm sorry, go ahead Miss Miss did that Was that Miss Bailey? Yes. I'm sorry, go ahead. With the Mr. Abbott, were you trying to get him back here on Traxler? And now I have another one. The gentleman was in the wrong case wrong courtroom and they just sent him in here. Right. I was there for Oh Miss Sorry, I didn't hear you there. So, but yes, I do need some information on Traxler and now I need information on Okay. So, apparently I'm Mr. Abbott's secretary this morning. Um Traxler, he said he submit He submitted a uh He submitted something already. Commercial consent already submitted to the court. Okay, we'll look for it. But would you No, you're helping me out, Miss Call him back and tell him a defendant has shown up in What case is it um Miss uh Denise? It's night The name on the um file is Harry Davis, but he said his name is Day- Davis Bey. What is the the case number? The last last three is um 344. 344? Mhm. Yes. scheduled at 9:40? It was scheduled at 9:00 40? 40. And would you tell Mr. Abbott he's back? Mr. Abbott is back. Okay. Mr. Abbott, thank you for the case of Mr. Traxler, but uh we have a gentleman who was in the wrong courtroom and just got sent over to us. Uh I think we adjourned it, but let's see what we might be able to do today. Um can you give us the case number again, uh Denise, so I can have Renee pull it up? It's um Yes, ma'am, I sure can. Thank you. 20 It's 20 347 344. Okay. Thank you for coming back, Mr. Abbott. Don't leave. 20347344 Leland House versus Harry Davis. Good morning, Judge Miller. Good morning, Judge Miller. My name is James Abbott. I'm a lawyer, P26085. I represent Harry Davis's landlord, who is Leland House Apartments. We had adjourned this case to November 30th for door knock, but now we have the defendant here. Sir, your name? Yes, I'm here by making a special appearance by way of Moorish Science Temple of America, Davis Bey. For the representing the account here from your United States of America Department of State uh Harry Davis. Okay. Mr. Davis, uh you're in the apartment at 400 these we Yes, I was I was just presented these documents. It says uh dates of Sep- September 28th. And Yeah, that's the date that was mailed. Let me ask you, sir. We have No, I just I I just received them. Uh I don't receive any mailing here. And I just received them 3 days you don't receive mailing at the Bagley at the Bagley address? No. You're not living at the Bagley address? I didn't even I didn't even know uh mail was sent to me anything. 3 days ago, it was taped to the door. Let me ask a couple of questions, sir. Do you live at 400 Bagley 1120? Apartment 1120, yes. So, you do live at Bagley. Yes. Okay. Are you interested in having one of our free attorneys help you through this? Uh no. Uh well, and what is it you're asking? You want to stay in the apartment or you want to move or what? Yes, I want to stay. Okay. I uh I uh have proof of money sent or a payment for rent that was sent by way of a uh certified mail from the United States Post Office. And when did that go? Uh the first proof of payment was July 16th. The second was the 13th of September. One for July 15th, uh July 16th. It was for the month of June, July, and August. Well, sir, I think After that After that, and that one that one was was in the amount of 1875 including Mr. Abbott will send you a letter. And what from Yeah, we got to get this uh on the From September Mr. Abbott, I can't hear him. Hold on. Let me ask this, Mr. uh Day. Um I know you said you're not interested in one of our attorneys, but we have uh some uh programs that would help you pay your rent and even pay your rent your back rent, but pay your rent uh say November and maybe even December. It's called the Eviction Diversion Program. Okay, how how how would how would that work and dissolve my proof of payment and everything that has already Mr. Abbott would send them. Mr. Abbott would send the attorney uh Hold on, sir. Mr. Abbott, the plaintiff's attorney would send the attorney assigned to you proof of what they received. You'll then send your proof of what you paid, and then what's left we can maybe have the Eviction Diversion Program make some payments for you. Uh Uh no no, thank you, please. It is incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial. Uh the state of Michigan to make some payments for you? No. No. I've been making my own payments. Yes, I've I've been making my own payments. And Uh the the proof The proof of uh payments that I have The the uh the second one after the first one that I mentioned um was made on the 13th of September. And that was for which month? For That was for the 13th of September in the amount of uh 575 without the parking because it was already included for the first one. After that the uh apartment did that cover? Excuse me, can I say something? That month was That month was That month was September 13th. It was for the month of September, 575 not including the parking because the parking was was taken care of the month prior. And the And uh And the next one Yes, the next one. I have proof of payment. Proof of I've tendered payment for October 13th. Cheryl, you'll get a chance, okay? Notarized and sent by notified and notified and sent by certified mail, notified and sent by certified mail uh from United States Postal Service. For the month of October in amount of 575 and also including parking. Okay, hold on a second. Mr. Abbott Your Honor. Did you receive Did your client receive these payments? Cheryl. No, he What he's he's sending us promissory notes that uh that we really have no idea what to do with. The bank says they're not not negotiable. And this is what he's been giving us is promissory notes uh notarized. I sent promissory notes and the parking lot is not the one I have. I understand. Hold on. I got you, Mr. Bay. Uh, I understand what you're sending is promissory notes and unfortunately in uh, landlord tenant matters, those are not PAYMENTS OF RENT. IT'S JUST A PROMISSORY NOTE AND WE cannot accept that. And the the client your he said. Are you Are you telling me that even Are you telling me that even a court is not is not going to accept promissory notes for payments? No, we're not. I'm the executor. I I'm the executor. legal payment. That is not a legal payment for rent to this client. Now, are you sure then you don't want to talk to one of our attorneys and get your rent paid by state of Michigan program? If it would resolve this, would it would resolve this? Well, it it depends on how much you owe and how much the plan is willing to pay of yours. Well, I've made tender payments. They are negotiable instruments certified with by law. Those are not payments. And I am the And excuse excuse me, please. I am the executor and the beneficiary of the account for Harry Bay. For your For your For your For They are legal tender. They are legal tender. And they're stated and they're notified to the fact also. I'm sorry, they're not It's really Is Mr. Mr. Fadipe working with us today? He had a good It is very It is very true. Is Mr. Fadipe in another courtroom? Mr. who? Is it What's his name? Uh Olay Fadipe. I don't have his number. I am not sure who you're talking about. Can you chat me the name so I can see it? Oh, sorry about that. Mr. Abbott. Can you chat her the name? Maybe he's He's with uh Lakeshore, right? It It Given that I have no idea who you're talking about, I suspect he's with Lakeshore. What's the name again, Yana? What did you say? What did you say? Fadipe. The last name is Fadipe. Oh, oh, I know you're talking about. Um I'm not sure if he's with wrong. No, I know exactly who he's talking about, but I don't know if he's with um I know exactly I think he'd be a great attorney to handle this case. That's uh Uh Well, by all means, Your Honor. Um if it Mr. I don't know if Cooper would know. I don't have his number handy. I I I know who he is, obviously, but I don't have his number handy. Mr. Miss Cooper. Yes, Your Honor. Yes, Your Honor. Does uh Mr. Fadipe work with you guys? The name does not sound familiar, but I'm fairly new with the organization. I can Let me see if I can find out for you. Because if he could come help us today, that would be great. Okay, hold on, please. I'll I'll see if I can find out. And if somebody could chat how to spell it, I can look up to see as well. S A D I D Adidpe? I don't know. Attorney J, do you know if Attorney Adidpe? I think I Yeah, he is from Lakeshore. I can message him now. Would you, please? Yes, ma'am. And tell him I would really could use his help. Okay. like me afterwards, but Let me see. me afterwards, but Does he have a case right now? No, he doesn't, but I sure would like to sign him one. Okay. I'm messaging him now. He might not like me afterwards, but such is life. All right. Cuz Cooper's trying to find him, also. Uh it says he's away from his desk. So, let's see. Yeah, it says he's away from his desk. I messaged him, but no response yet. Mr. Bay, we're going to hold on a minute see if we can get this attorney to help you out, okay? He wasn't scheduled with me today, but uh he'd be great to work with you. Uh Mr. Abbott, hang on there, okay? to work with Did you say to work with me? To be your attorney. No, I'm not asking for counsel. But as I said, if you want the state to pay your rent, you have to have one of our attorneys work with you. Would it resolve and accept the tender payments that are certified that are certified in those documents? Excuse me. The state would pay They are certified They are certified negotiable instruments that I paid. They are certified. They are negotiable. We are the United States. We are the United States. And the state of Michigan and the city of Detroit does not accept that as payment for rent. Okay. By by June 5th, 1933. I want to ask you Is the United States still in bankruptcy? And Michigan also? Objection. Yes, we are. By law. Yes, we are by law. Let me try and tell you this again. I know at one point in time folks would accept those things. However, we no longer accept them. The state of Michigan and the city of Detroit will no longer accept that. I'm trying to help you out by getting a portion of your rent paid through our EDP program, but you don't seem to be interested in having it. So, why don't you just adjourn this have time to I didn't have time to prepare myself or anything for this. It was just presented to me. But the dates on these documents say 28th and every the last one for uh It says the 28th of September. And I just received it 3 days ago. That's why I'm going to keep the adjournment date Is that Is that enough lawful time? Is Is that enough lawful time? Excuse me, sir. If you let me speak, I'm going to help you out here. We can adjourn it to November 30th at 8:40 a.m. and that will give you time. How about that? Your Honor, Mr. Felipe will be in your courtroom this week. So, we'll adjourn it to November 30th November 30th at 8:40 a.m. Thank you. Yes. Thank you, Your Honor. Thank you. Thank you, Cheryl. Thank you. And thanks for joining us on Facts or Frauds. Make sure you hit the thumbs up button. 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