so you had intentions to to at least have oral sex with her yeah and how old did she tell you that she was i said go on 14. this video contains the interview of a predator who was caught on his first attempt by agents from the show to catch a predator in october of 2007 ex-reserve police officer and college student michael patterson's life was hitting a rough patch the 24 year old was not only going through a divorce but his pride was still stinging from being fired after illegally putting police lights on his car and impersonating a police officer like many people patterson turned to the internet for companionship instead of finding people of his own age to chat with patterson discovered a 13-year-old girl who was actually a decoy not being experienced in such activities he didn't draw things out like most predators instead after chatting only one day patterson hopped in his car for a five hour drive to engage in activities that he should never have considered with a minor when he arrived one officer made a poor decision and tasered patterson even though he was standing still at the time although only one prong managed to latch correctly patterson's dramatic screens made his case one of the most well-known from the show here one more time we're gonna coffee up front okay same admonishment we're just gonna yeah from up front here put this [Music] what's your see your arm buddy hold your arm okay you have any other wounds or anything no i don't think so you sure okay yes [Music] so many predators are able to put on a mask of calm and attempt to charm their way out of trouble patterson is different he's already breathing hard and he gives the impression that he isn't the type to hold up well under questioning distraught parker bell fired a 40 caliber pistol into the floor sending the room which included several civilians into a panic as people ducked for cover so um foreign so you want curtis to stay in here no he can go that's fine brought you water if you want something right there name is michael patterson michael my name is ken gillingham and i'm an agent with the kentucky bureau of investigation and you're here at the bowling green police department we'll turn on a tape recorder so that we have an accurate representation of what we talk about here tonight today's date is sunday october 21st 2007 the time is now approximately 2 45 a.m president our agent ken gillingham with the kentucky bureau of investigation and michael patterson mr patterson i've talked to you and you do know that this tape recorder is being turned on to record our conversation what's your full name michael joseph patterson and what's your date of birth what's your home address foreign what's your social security number how tall are you 511 white 195 pound brown hair and hazel blue eyes married single divorced mom going through divorce now still legally married yeah man were you employed well nowhere as of the weekend well i worked through um through private investigation services the card was in my wallet i didn't know who that guy was that i was talking to and i didn't give him accurate information i was a police officer okay but you are you say you i i do like private investigations okay through uh lieutenant o'day from hebron police lieutenant it's uh just put lieutenant or day investigation service patterson's actions have just destroyed any career he may have been pursuing in law enforcement these consequences haven't occurred to him yet but over the next few days he's going to have to face how much he has lost i just do that part-time right now because i go to school at purdue and what type of private investigations do you do just confidential you know confidential discreet investigations give me an example cheating cheating spouses from insurance fraud workers comp for all the things like that so you're not a sworn police officer i was with hebron and then that went down what happened there oh it was a traffic violation i violated their sop they're seeing a standard operating procedures i i went out and i had i got some blood red lights and i put them in my car it was thrown out of court so they dismissed me for that but it was thrown out how did it was that uh just about like a month ago about a month ago and you have any children no if i call you michael mike what do you go by mike mike obviously if you've been in law enforcement in the past you're probably familiar with your miranda warning your statement of rights and you know that before i can ask you any questions i'm required to advise you of your rights statement of your rights or you may remain silent but anything that you say may be used against you in a court or other proceedings that you have the right to consult an attorney before you make any statement or answer any question and you may have your attorney with you during the questioning you may request the court to the point attorney for you if you cannot afford to hire one and you may stop the question at any time by refusing to answer any further questions or requesting to consult with your attorney you understand those rights that i've read to you yes okay [Music] did you understand them and then the second porsche down here is a waiver of those rights it says having the above statement of my rights read and explained to me and fully understanding them i hereby waive these rights at the time is now 2 51 a.m on october 21st 2007 and i do this freely and voluntarily without threat of promise do you want to talk to me about why you're here tonight and try to get the bottom of this situation i don't know if i'd have my attorney involved or not at all that's up to you i'd like to discuss with you why you're here but that's entirely up to you did you get your water open yeah and one other piece of paperwork dude out of the way obviously you drove a vehicle down here i think uh was it a pontiac yeah what we would like to do michael is uh do you have anything in the car weapons this is my 140 caliber that was it's my gun i've got my permit i went over state line i'm probably getting well what we would like to do is get your consent to go out there and search the vehicle if there's a weapon in it we don't need to leave it in there somebody can break into it or whatever so we would like to get your permission to go out there and retrieve anything out of your car that's not supposed to be in there yeah and your car was brought down here at the bowling green police department it's out back okay what year is your car you say 2005 yeah patterson sits hunched over with his eyes averted which is a defensive posture he mutters under his breath and there's a subtle note of whining in his voice he's too worked up to think of a good lie so he might be the type to admit everything without a fight pontiac grand am yeah grand am gt and what color is it it's just silver two-door four-door two-door that's the only thing i'm finding there's that with my weapon in my my school bag my black bag and what will be in that bag just my just my scroll box again use your signature right there and then your printed name and address underneath that oh ah uh [Music] all right [Music] what's your screen name john raven john underscore raven 2000 okay and you know remember the screen name of the female that you were chatting with online tatia something to t underscore pet 13 i think so yeah okay when did you first start chatting online with her just today today what time it was probably seven o'clock some around there if i tell you the vlog reflects about 4 39 p.m this afternoon 4 30 maybe a little sooner then were you working today when you did that or no you were you were home yeah i was online yeah we got a home computer my laptop what type of laptop do you have toshiba satellite and it's actually in the car with me your computer is in the car with you okay uh and you said to sheba do you have satellite web service satellite uh wireless is what it is and who's that service through i had night gear right there couch never gear that year any t g e a r and i know you had a cell phone with you when you came in too did you chat on it on the way down or did you call or talk i don't think i chatted with her you didn't instant message or anything when you were on the way down i think i did i put like call me on there i think that was the only thing i tried to get ahold of her with i tried calling her and then i couldn't get all over so i went through instant message on my phone and then tried getting all over that way okay is the laptop the only computer that you have there at your house you don't have a desktop or i have a desktop yeah but i don't even use that thing anymore what type of desktop is it i don't even know it was my wife's shirt where's it located in the house it's uh it's right in my second my storage room the storage room is inside your house so yeah it's actually the second bedroom but we don't we don't have anything else besides like crap in that room all my tools and stuff you said you were going through a divorce is does your wife still live there also no she's moving she's living with her mom and dad in crown point okay anyone else living there with you at this time just me give me animals in the house dog cat fish you said it's an apartment yeah how many bedrooms are in the apartment two bedrooms yeah the questions have been fairly basic so far barely touching on anything related to the case patterson is answering but he's struggling to keep himself together how long did it take you to drive down here a little over today hours five and a half so that part of what you were saying out at the house was true yeah and what was your reason for coming down i really didn't i wasn't going to wasn't going to watch i wasn't going to come down here you probably see on there on the conversations that i was wary of coming down there what made you come you know now is your time to explain your side of the situation uh you know i'll be frank with you i won't ever lie to you and i expect the same consideration in return and you know i'm gonna ask you some questions that i'd like to have you answer why did you come down here tonight the truth comes out in three two one she's had a [ __ ] or something yeah in your chats you talk about her sucking your dick yeah patterson admits why he went to the sting house so you had intentions to to at least have oral sex with her yeah and how did she tell you that she was she said go on 14. i think she's going to be 14 in february or something i believe and you you knew that wasn't right i know it wasn't but yet you came do you think anything else was going to happen after you got here let nature take its course i was wary of coming in the house i drove around for a little bit i almost didn't come in have you chatted with other people online before like this no i mean i've talked to people who've know older but just friends you know i what about others or other females i'm sure you've chatted with other females yeah never this you know what would you say would be the next youngest person that you've chatted with 18 18. yeah i never would think did you ever meet anyone else in person from your chats one how long ago was that i've met her a couple months ago she's 20 and where did she live she lives in kokomo well right now logan's sport with her mom and dad in logansport yeah logansport i'm assuming it's open sport indiana yeah logansport indiana can you remember what her screen name was oh god such a bad headache hit me with the ground i can't remember or what her real name is her first name oh my god oh man what is her name when's the last time you chatted with her i just called she called me today all right my mind is not here they tased the crap out of me hit me against the floor i can't well you ran i was standing there at the door patterson is admitted to everything which is unusual this may indicate that this is his first time doing something like this and he has no experience and had not mentally prepared himself for getting caught usually the longer a predator commits their crimes the easier it is for them to justify their actions in their own minds mine's on here well she if she called you today i mean you had to know a name which chat room that was a yahoo chat room yeah is that pretty much where you usually chat yeah you say it was about two months ago yeah pretty close anyone else just vaguely though she was the main person i talked to is she the only one that you met in person yeah and how many times have you met with her twice i just met her parents the other day so you went to where she was at how far is logan's support from where she's an hour away you met her parents yeah mike have you ever been in trouble before other than what you told me earlier what's up even describing the the policy violations and you sound like you said traffic ticket or something or that was a traffic ticket that was just they didn't even turn it in with the blue and red lights uh back again like unauthorized use of emergency i wasn't supposed to have it in my car my personal car um back in 03 i had i had misdemeanor a stupid [ __ ] i'm stupid now this meter a it was for uh theft i i got a bank card through on the mail and it was all in my information my address and everything to get you know bank citizens bank they gave me a pin code access to it all i went to the atm because i had a savings with them savings account but i didn't have a checking i thought that was for my savings but i got stupid when i seen the balance i got like 1200 i settled with the restitution 1200 from that and uh so the card was actually on somebody else's account it was yeah it was the account number was to another person's account but it went all my name and everything to my address with the pin number on the card it had my you know my full name michael joseph michael j patterson on it and that was basically yeah and that was in 2003 and you said 2000 what was the what was the final result of it misdemeanor a that was a plea i completed my probation stuff and made restitution yeah paid all that back you say it was about 1200 yeah were you on the police force then no that was i just turned 21 21 20 or 21 in his turn how long were you on the police force just three months i did my pre-basic with hebron police my pre-basic law enforcement academy i did i got my weapons qualifications and all that how you spelling hebrew handcuffs h-e b-r-o-n and what were the dates that you were there july to july 007 or yeah july 1007 to shine the beginning of october the end of august or the beginning of october just put the end of august that was two months i was there if it was that july oh my mind's not here oh god obviously this is you in the picture here who are the other people in there with you my brother's standing next to me my sister and then his that's my younger brother that's his girlfriend there my sister and my older brother patterson had a decent job he had a relationship with a woman in his own age range which looked to be getting serious the woman he was seeing lived an hour away patterson gave all of this up to drive five hours to meet a 13 year old girl that he had only been talking to for a day this may have been his first time but it definitely wouldn't have been his last did you bring anything else with you like you talked about possibly bringing bringing a gift or bringing something i didn't i don't that's why when she said that i didn't remember what she was talking about i didn't say i was bringing anything you didn't tell her you were gonna bring anything i don't think so i can't remember if i i don't think i did were you planning on spending the night i wasn't planning for staying very long because i had to get up i had to go to uh possibly do my group project today because we have a midterm presentation tomorrow group project but tomorrow you mean tuesday sunday like today we're supposed to go back up back to home and then hopefully got together with my group to practice our group presentation for the monday tomorrow morning yeah for what type of class my communications class what year are you in at purdue i'm going part time i only have 20 credit hours so first year it barely be the first year freshman year but just barely because to get a bachelor's degree with purdue up there i have to have 140 credit hours for four years so it's barely a freshman year the the desktop computer that's at your apartment is there internet service hooked up to it wireless card or anything with it you say it's an older computer yeah it's an old tank clock mic what we're gonna find on your computer when we look at it is it going to be any child pornography no no no going to be any adult pornography well this from one of the chat rooms i saved one picture from maybe two from an older lady she had in her little profile thing it was from an older lady i think she was one of those bots you know like a pretend person you talked to to put that crap in their profile so i put that on there i think i might have two pictures that's it okay what about dvds vhs tapes anything like that at the house like what i have dvd you know regular dvds that i watch movies right but what i'm talking about is is any child or adult pornography nothing like that any drugs at your apartment no ah damn and you said he brings a population of about three thousand three three thousand that's what they said yeah where's that located um well it's just uh south southeast of crown point about 15 minutes so it's pretty far up up in indiana and if i understood you right you came for oral sex that was it because she spoke up she said it you know she she wasn't my hell oh my god uh she she didn't bring it up first though you brought it up first asked her if she'd ever had a boyfriend has she ever done anything with him like suck his dick would you do me you recall those okay speak up because obviously the tape recorder can't see you shake your head yes with everything he's already confessed the case against patterson is going to be pretty open and shut they are still going to search his vehicle and computer to see if there need to be any additional charges but his admission has made extra evidence less critical and you've never done this with anyone else we're not going to find any any chats on your computer or anything with any other underage females no did you have a webcam that you used or anything no not gonna be one with a desktop either no mike is there anything else that you can think of that you want to tell me right now concerning this situation you know i'm not any type of dirty person like those people out there i knew i shouldn't have came down here no that would you know that would have probably been a good idea yes this is and you did say it was a 2005 pontiac yeah i just bought it i haven't had time to go over to the license branch because i traded in a 2003 grand am it might still have my same it does still have my same plate on it from that oh three grand damn i just traded the the car in on it okay where did you purchase your car this 05 yes team chevrolet and valparaiso team t-e-a-n yeah team yeah chevrolet in valparaiso indiana it's about 15 minutes from the house from the apartment and you traded in a 2003 the grand am se and you said you've not you've not changed registration you've not registered i was about ready to go this week coming up here tomorrow i'm so busy with my midterms i haven't gone over there now yeah do you know who owned the car to 2005 before you did i didn't find out prior owner the dealership had possession of it but they sold it to me but i don't know who had it before are you familiar with the name of no well that's the registration that the car is still coming back in yeah and you bought it when i can't remember the exact date it was about two weeks ago two weeks ago so it was on a on a wednesday about two days yeah it was on a wednesday about two weeks ago because my wife and i were getting that my ex-wife coming up all right sit tight just half a second i'll be right back all right anything else that you can think of right now mike that you want to tell me concerning this tonight i mean you guys have everything there that happened aren't you well you know i want to make sure that you have every opportunity to tell your side of the story or explain anything that you want to explain i sit here all night with you if that's what it takes i don't want it i don't want to cut you off we've pretty much covered it i knew i screwed up talking to a girl that age i knew i'm not stupid i'm not a [ __ ] creep but all right the time is now approximately 3 17 a.m i'll be stopping the recording at this time all right mike what's going to happen now is you have to have your photograph made it's going to be done right out here in the hallway and then you'll be taken across the street to the warren county jail and lodged uh the judge will set bond on you on your charge i'm not that familiar with bowling green i don't live here i don't know whether he'll do it this morning sometime today or whether he'll wait and do it monday i hope he doesn't have that midterm oh my god do you have a home phone number or you choose yourself myself you could call my what's your cell now my wife's number and you want to list your wife as an emergency contact number right let me see if they're ready for you out here on june 11 2008 michael patterson was convicted of traveling in interstate commerce for the purpose of engaging in a sexual act with a minor he received seven years in federal prison and ten years supervised release he also received three years and ten months by the state of kentucky in 2011 patterson represented himself in a civil lawsuit against nbc universal inc asking for 40 million dollars in monetary and punitive damages as well as injunctive relief in the form of having all information about him taken off television and nbc's website patterson claimed that he was lured to the sting house and that they took advantage of his vulnerability he also said that the slander and defamatory statements by nbc caused him mental and emotional stress as well as ruined his reputation patterson's complaint was devoid of factual allegations and his case was dismissed thank you for watching if you like this type of content and want to support the channel there is a patreon link in the description below you'll be able to watch videos with zero ads and some that are too controversial for youtube and you'll be supporting the channel at the same time thanks again for sticking around and i'll see you in the next video