[Music] and welcome to facts or frauds flashback I can do John Vier Williams yes we're ready on that one miss William hey how you doing I'm fine and yourself I'm okay calling the now calling no no no no no I'm calling the matter please and thank you all right this isn't just I know you're not in court right now but this is still a formal hearing okay okay now calling the matter of the people versus John Vier Charelle Williams this is ticket sp1 15348 981 count no insurance misdemeanor M your appearance for the record starting with councel yes alen stroi p37 441 appear be the defendant what's your name for the Record Man John beer Williams all right Council how are we proceeding today your honor um defendant defend W before R stands mute at this time all right inter rep ple of not guilty on your client's behalf yes also miss I'm sorry she was actually for pre defendant wish should set this matter for a bench Trail okay all right if that's the case man' please raise your right hand I don't know I told him that this is what I told him I told him I didn't understand what he was talking about he got angry with me because I didn't know what was going on I told him I didn't understand it I told him I needed some more time and he explained something to me I just need more time so I could get the insurance I I had a financial hardship like I don't even understand why all of this got to go on okay it's because in the state of it's Williams Miss Williams I'mma tell you why all of this is going on so originally we have to have insurance because when people get in car accidents they want to be covered right so if I'm not able to be covered when you hit my car I'm G be upset because now that means that I either have to replace my vehicle with my own money or my insurance rates are going to go up because I'm going to use my insurance to cover those costs so that's why they made it a misdemeanor in the state of Michigan which is punishable by either 90 days in jail or up to a $500 fine because they were tired of people just saying oh I'm not gonna get it and then they would get into these situations right but we understand people have Financial hardships so if you would like a pre-trial I can give you until July 1 to try and get everything together is that what you would like to do ma'am yes I would just like to get the insurance and bring it to y'all that's all I want to do I don't want to do anything okay now we gonna have to be able to see it so you either gonna have to be on a device where you can show it or you're gonna have to have the ability to have it sent over so we can see it okay yes all right so I'll see you on July 1st 2024 at uh 8:30 A.M I'll set your bond at zero do okay okay thank you so much you're welcome all right if there's nothing further you're all set okay bye bye bye Miss John viir Williams ma'am Miss John Vier Williams hello hello can you turn your camera on for me please okay ma'am you don't want an attorney this morning no I am the authorized representative I am represent I'm making a special limited appearance for the all cap name okay all right let me call this matter then now calling the matter of the people versus John Vier Charelle Williams this is ticket sp15 34898 come one no insurance misdemeanor man have your appearance for the Record Man please hello can you I can hear you I need your appearance for the Record Man can you hear us I could just hear you a moment ago hello hear me now can you hear us yep I can hear I can hear you now something going on with the phone I'm inside of building I was about say it's because you're in the building ma'am can you state your name for the record please I am the authorized representative of the all caps name John Vier Charelle Williams all right and it's my understanding today that you don't want to be represented by an attorney is that correct yes I have power of attorney okay and you know that you have the absolute right to have an attorney this matter is a misdemeanor before my court so certain constitutional rights kick in um the fine is up to $500 a possible I believe this one ticket is 90 days maximum in jail potentially in these particular matters so when we start taking away civil liberties there's a right to have an attorney you understand that ma'am yes okay ma'am uh how would you like to move forward with this do you have current Insurance up to- datting current Insurance uh actually I took the car and I put it inside of the business the trust and I'm not operating a vehicle now because we need to do some more paperwork on it I am um in the process of um resending all my contracts I'm just here to make a special appearance um okay so let me let you know so even if you're making a special appearance on behalf of that either the either you have insurance or you don't have insurance and then you need to tell me how you would like to proceed forward we can either proceed forward with the police proceed forward with the trial bench as I as I understand the process the judge the county attorney or the police officer has leveled the criminal charge with the clerk against the trust using the All cap name ma'am it's all the same so whether it's all caps or lower caps if it comes under your driver's license number and it's registered vehicle to you it's your responsibility so my question was do you or don't you have insurance at this point in time I'm asking you to dismiss the case with prejudice okay so I'm not going to do that because it's still an open case and I still don't have whether or not you have insurance has to be provided any vehicles that are driven Road traveled on the roads have to have insurance in the state of Michigan well uh the clerk who is the administrator of the CQ trust then appointed you the judge as the trustee for the trust and since neither of you can be the beneficiary that leaves me and therefore you are my trustee so as my trustee I am I instruct you to discharge this entire matter at your argument of trial of judge will ask you okay no so here's your options you can either plea or you can have a bench or jury trial how would you like to proceed I am or you don't want to participate or if you don't want to contract at all I don't want to contract at all so if you don't want to participate then what we do is the next stage is the show calls or capus so so as my trustee I am strict due to discharge this entire matter with prejudice and award the penalties for these charges to be paid to me and compensation damages or for all F rest all right so it seems like she doesn't want to participate in today's hearing so I'm going to set this for a show cuse on the date of January July 22nd 2024 at 8:30 a.m. if at that point in time Miss John Vier sherel Williams would like to participate in the hearing she can return to court B set at0 personal have a great day ma'am you as well and a flashback John viir Williams John viir Williams hello hello can you turn your camera on please yes all right how you doing now call I'm fine how about yourself all right now calling the matter of the people versus John Vier charel Williams this is ticket number sp15 3489 81 no insurance mror may I have appearances for the record starting with counsel please I am here as the authorized of the all cap name I am here to make a special appearance limited special appearance all right so I'm a foreign eny challenging your jurisdiction okay so I need the actual person John beier Williams so if you're representing her I need her to be online as well so if she cannot be online I can't proceed with this hearing today and she's going to be capist at this point in time okay so that was created by the state of Michigan for public and political purposes are you bringing suit to your own Corporation I am a nonent alien listen to me I'm telling I'm here for no ma'am I give you very specific things this is matter for no insurance for John Vier Charelle Williams if she is not present today I can okay okay so if she do you have any interest in the case of filing a W9 or 1040 form with the IRS no no this is a traffic matter for no insurance misdemeanor and if the person that if you're not John Vier Williams you don't have any claims in this case anyway so I need that person to appear or else this case will be capus today I'm asking you to dismiss the case Char I don't I don't know I am an authorized representative I just told you I'm an authorized you have a p number because the only person who can represent someone in court is a attorney what is your p number man I'm attorney in fact I listen I'm asking you to dismiss this case I'm not if not I put a UCC I will lean it I will lean I will Le it I will John viir Charelle Williams are you present ma'am John Vier Williams are you present twice John Charelle Williams make a special limit appearance on behal of Miss Williams you're not gonna answer the question she asking don't say anything I am here to make a special appearance limited appearance on the behalf of John beier Williams the agent okay representative authorized representative all right so if she's not present today I cannot move forward because I need her present all right so there'll be a KPS put out on her zerob bond until she appears before the court I need to have John Vier Shel Williams appear before the court so that I can make sure I have the right person who has this ticket Insurance created by the state of Michigan for public and political purposes are you bringing suit to your own Corporation thank you John beier Charelle Williams is capus until she appears before my court to answer to the no insurance Mis Amendment ticket thank you D we're going to jail and thanks once again for hanging out will UNF frauds make sure you hit that Thumbs Up Button you're subscribed and ring that Bell also leave a comment in the comment section tell me what you think and a major thank you to all of our faxer frauds channel members W Nishi thank you if you'd like 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