it's a gruesome case with almost unbelievable details oh yeah Mr business had blood on her hands when she was arrested go on your hands [Music] this video contains the interview and trial of a woman who killed and dismembered her boyfriend in February 2022 Taylor shut business joined her boyfriend Shad Therian and two other friends for an evening of meth and Other Drugs the four of them spent several hours together before she business and Tyrion went back to his house where they went down to the basement to make love Show Business had always enjoyed adding violence to such acts and this time she had no qualms about taking things too far after choking Tyrion with a dog collar she dismembered him and violated his corpse so if you don't understand anything please let me know we have the right to remain silent anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law the right to consult with them or before questioning to have a lawyer president the current question if you cannot afford to hire a lawyer one would finally represents you a public expense before or hearing a question if you wish and decide to answer questions now without a word present in order to stop the question 8 intermitting seven any kind of wish including during a question you are standing see these rights yes relating that you have these rights that you don't want to answer questions and make a statement yes all right yeah well a few hours ago please first dispatch to uh address on Stone import that the parents also shad ethereum do you know [ __ ] he's my ass he's your ex boyfriend yeah yeah well they finally found out of the skirting stopped at the house there oh really yeah yeah a lot of blood um basically Chef's head yeah this is pretty [ __ ] up and then so we know you were there at one point yeah for sure um we also know you left now that band is that your van yeah okay so this where did you go what's your favorite police station without easement is that where you live yeah okay thanks I'm sorry okay is that your apartment no no whose apartment is it yeah who is that man Scott Thomas Okay so you need that's his there yes okay and so did you leave from Chad's house and go to Scott's house sometime today yeah well they bounce cars yet that it's almost as mom's house Tom's head where's the rest of this body it's there is that his house he's in the house when someone happened it's a good question because I've blacked out during that time but um [Applause] [Music] I need time to uh things no problem please just telling our super longer so you keep the body still there let's see why not unless it's just up and move but she could have you know your business gives a flippant response about therian's body there's no sign of remorse [Music] ment s well they just you would chat on the case man does anybody else talking already quite time what do you think you went to Shadows activity level okay let's just stay there the whole time okay um you start to remember not what happened we should definitely remember um [Music] oh there's this um there's this chain there's this chain thing right and then um yeah like I was playing around with it okay I mean like we were we were smoking in the [ __ ] right now I'm terrible I was playing things so uh let's see here and then here comes the chain right and you put it around his neck well we were like playing around and [ __ ] and then um business in theory and were both on meth at the time and it is impossible to determine if Tyrion consetted to use the color in play right now you can watch another incredibly intense case on my patreon Discover the disturbing story of the kin and Barbie Killers a terrifying tale about a couple obsessed with violence dive into their dark Journey as they become immersed in unimaginable Horrors watch this shocking video along with many others at patreon.com stranger stories Plus um so you're smoking a [ __ ] what was what would that be like [Music] um have you taken any other drugs tonight no I'll just talk on today's free smoking nice in our pipe or someplace else no one that's on the counter or on the table I love the bag either I mean so where exactly these men are still like I thought that [ __ ] headshots can you say where was this place where would it be in the basement or in the first floor or the second floor basement and it was ice in it I mean it was a fast didn't go bad it took a little small talk professional let's go [Music] and um it's just huge yeah and so there was a chain you know what kind of chain it's the one that's on the same places where the [ __ ] what would that be again I think it's on a dresser high pressure on there I don't know either I haven't been there I mean as best as you can remember so you think that there could be a chain and the ice on a dresser down in the basement it's just weird I got like a weird flashback bowling Apple yeah it's short it was really short what did you see just um I don't even know it was like it was weird I was writing him like a donkey okay and then like I think so I think that's what was happening yeah I don't know where um YouTube being intimate having sex it was getting there it was getting there okay so we'll just be considered a poor play yeah yeah and then um I just didn't stop I don't know why I didn't stop the drugs may have been a factor in ship business being able to subdue Therian or you may not have realized he needed to fight back until it was too late you guys saw something like this in the past do you use manual strangulation during sex at all to shed like that a manual string election yes yes yes yes yes yes he likes per emulation he does yeah yeah can you do two or just so what would you so when's the last time you guys had sex besides potentially sworn you mean many people like we even get it like um I'm sorry but we didn't do it I mean [Music] um August and what would you guys like to do is there a certain role-playing that you did with Chad or was it just some sort of strangulation how would you guys um the year I have basically have sex um I need to so yeah so I don't know why but there's anybody like strangle the other person I like to know all right so you like being strangle like having your your Airway or do you like doing it to somebody else I like going into somebody else the shadow like the new strangled during sex have you done it before yeah he does he likes it business says that it was a typical act between him but she isn't sure that Therian enjoyed it nor does she seem concerned whether he did or not do you use what we call props in the past yes well okay Dad or roll for chain or underwear or anything um yeah but I I actually dildo as ml and Pastor just recently with the hot on the bed yeah this was done after therian's death so obviously you see he smoked some mice do you take any prescription um we have any mental health issues we should be aware have you been diagnosed with anything officially because I know this yeah that's a mission mental health issues it's quite a good mother [Music] since high school yes where do you guys go to school together okay did you graduate the same class or yeah all right so then you guys were a boyfriend girlfriend for how long one two three years two years two three years two years and this is Red Rock High School or during High School what year did you graduate 16 2016. yeah she would chat um uh a couple so to speak or was it just um do you still have sex with him I did it once just once yeah High School so why don't you start seeing them again recently she's my buddy no all right so you've always been friends yeah business did not have a steady romantic relationship okay so how did you get over to the sheds the minivan the millionaire what do you think he went there you remember two days ago did you stay there all the time or did you ever pick them up and go someplace or then go come back how did you get it to chill with shed there when you got there and said let you in where you just walk in on your own America okay so you you showed up at his place then you and him left and he wouldn't got so bad yeah so then so then um we went and uh I picked him up and went and got some ice and then after that went to uh Baptist Gods we smoke okay yeah and then um I did it there to do this haircut you get [ __ ] here at Scott's yeah and then um and after that pile trying his face you know feeling good we left alone back to his mom okay I was looking for some prayer I never got something yeah right okay so you one fact that it was just you and Chad going back to his mom's put it on deeper Scott Scott occasionally and I apologize if I do good names until sometimes all right yeah the Scout Day to come with you okay so you and Chad went back to uh Chad's mom's house okay how did you get it did you see it was anybody home what what time do you think this was oh my gosh it was anybody home did you tolerate anybody yeah is that your mom's name yes Sam's ahead yeah yeah I can't believe what I like that though I wish to go to the party the body's there it's um so we're gonna take the head somewhere he liked it well you're gonna have fun trying to look for all the organs well yeah there's they're all dismembered oh yeah so you dismembered a body to him yeah but what did you do with the body parts someone they're like um basement upstairs I know I forgot the head and I wanted the head did you bring anything with you it's in the van what in the van it's um what is it what is it I don't pull it maybe I think it's a foot later I just bro I'm like I'm gonna bring it all of them and then I'm like man this is messy so then I just left it I got lazy I got lazy and that's what I did so I'm like okay so there's gonna be it'd be a flip or a leg in the van and then yeah what do you do with that I forgot that I was in the van so long yeah well you do with the head the head I put in that pocket with that black pocket a black pocket with the black and on top okay just leave it leads ahead still in the bucket it's right by the the downstairs thank you okay um how did you just know where his body then was what nice nice nice nice nice just more than one night your business had not planned the murder so she used whatever was on hand fine do you want a shirt no no no that's all right right I got lazy last night so where were these high speed now they're in they're in with all the organs and all the body parts the war was that and the flashback this is a black bag on um basement it's in the basement they're all in the basement I just went up to the stairs to be able to so all body parts and um knives will be in the back back what kind of that five Superman red pink black Under Armor backpack okay is it a big bad me oh stuff like you normally put in this bag put anything in the bag I mean it's a trash bag or is it garment bag yeah um backpack not all the bag that has the body parts okay is it a big one yeah the other one's like a little double okay so you from one point did you bring these bags with you or were they already there I was gonna but I got lazy and right you're gonna bring them with you when you laugh but where the bags there when you use them or did you bring them when you was chef they were there and there I found them there and I emptied them out and threw them in there and off other than bringing it and I'm just like I got paranoid and then I'm Gonna Leave it and I never get to run off but this one this time I was just like I think it was a dope I think my windows so did you watch it to be dead no no it was out of random like I wasn't expecting that and it kind of threw me off guard and it was in an open place and all that we went into bedtime it's pretty open it was weird it was really weird and um you opened um the door to the outside and you go down the stairs and it's right there like you can see everything I raised it went on the stairs or something yeah so where did you get the change he pulled it off around and can you describe them chain link chain link a silver okay and what size were like a dog chain or a large pot type of chain s always silver chains and here too what'd you guys do with them they put them wrong or not you did okay and then what were you doing probably around their necks Sharing Hope I was strangling again um was their clothes on or off oh he had his shorts on yeah I I didn't really care didn't he ever put the chain around you ethereum seem to go along with whatever she business wanted and she was excited to see how far she could go she business had no regard for safe boundaries put a change around your neck do you have any marks or anything you can get the chance yeah just the you didn't get a chance was that he was fine too though or was that part of the I thought that was the thing and then like I don't know I just wanted so what did you realize that [ __ ] it wasn't uh go live anymore I'm sorry okay did you hear yourself okay no foreign [Applause] [Music] I already did it I promise I don't I didn't want him to die and I actually did everybody but like it happened it happened again but then do you feel a need to try to help him stop choking him or get an ambulance he didn't film I don't know why it happened so fast so then after you realized he was no longer who's dead he's facing purple and he said I'm all close going on in his mouth um what'd you do um clean them up a little bit all right and then um you had them on the bed what kind of book these are actual dad versus the mattress or what at that time so then you have sex with him yes [Music] and I've had a doable my little one too what to do with the dildo yeah I put it in his mouth put it in there okay put it back put it back where was this back where'd you put it back [Music] after killing him she business violated his corpse actually the body body the body right and then um so I think you had sex with him he said they'll go on he said he cuddled for a while [Applause] you cuddled him where were you on the bed with him yeah actually karate's party and then what it decided to do oh you guys like a four letter for his um heartbeat right we did I did you felt it yeah and then he was like me building in the muscle man that was crazy and then um C4 yes well you're having sex with him I understand that you said that she played with his penis yes after he was dead oh yeah it was it a wrecked it was half it was half did you eat it yeah even what do you do with this penis [Music] she then placed it in the bucket containing therian's head did you ever place it in your vagina or any of your body parts okay so you're saying then you're like choking them and stuff and um was he struggling at all yes he was good are you trying to fight you sometimes like people have a flight or fight you know what I mean the reaction that something happens suddenly try to grab them you know he did he did foreign did you um use any other devices [Music] little scratches on your arms and stuff were they supposedly oh no no no [Music] technology [Music] so this one oh this one I probably did by myself this one so they want him to try to grab you or anything do you try to grab you fit all with his hands so the blood on your hands with that beat blood oh probably yeah I'm telling him I got super lazy tonight okay um I believe it being on drugs and that I'm coming down awful and yeah all the time I never do drugs like I barely leave drugs I do drugs but then like once in like a few like these not even like that like months go by and then other girls and where did you dismounted in the basement right you do anything particular with the head of the body what would you do with the blood wrapping all the pot it's still on there I mean with the you know the milk there's a shower in the basement with people on the next level and I just dumped it off the living room is probably still blender what are you going um the [ __ ] you yeah yeah okay well I drained his head all right well like after I swear when they're still blood in this bucket positions coming out of my head Shoulda took the brains and not everybody and then so you cleaned his head in the shower and the thump the bucket I like that and what do you use to discover that how about how do you know they're nice well you should one of the butter knife what kind of nice birthday then date nights or nice butcher night okay get your block the knives used were the type commonly found in a kitchen which are not designed for that level of cutting it took a great deal of physical Force I want the bread knife [Music] you know what I mean by serrated um and where are these knives in the kitchen there and um really in um like a knife holder thing or a drawer or whatever you know what I'm talking about yeah that's the one right there like it was in the um I really like that okay that's how my stuff my head was like I was really messed up like I don't know what was going on I was just going crazy and um I don't know what was going on at all because of this I think it was the open area I wasn't in a room by myself there was no door it's an open area it was an open area that I didn't like it it was different was just was there anybody else there maybe upstairs um was anything causing you to leave the house like everyone hearing um good shouts so long what else inside story and why do you think I heard those do you have a gun with you no I did not because you were coming in the house no I think it was outside you break someone's coming there weird I never paranoid but then out of nowhere like we're like yeah first like I would imagine this one was weird and then like the openness yeah it's too much room [Music] okay well I'm sure I'm gonna ask some questions for you I'll take a get a break and just tell them what happened you know [Music] you don't have much yet yeah so you've got to get that out yeah I forgot about that I've been off of it every time the state of therian's remains is brought up should business finds it humorous as if she is completely detached herself from the concept that he was a living being right now just a minute are you supposed to take any prescription medications okay all right I want to look into a couple other things and we'll be with you and if you need anything you're not going to do it okay how you doing good good good doing okay that's great I need stitches the thing is yeah usually you're good they were saying I think it's stitches you got 24 hours do you think you cut yourself over 24 hours ago oh yeah I used to do like uh four hours four hours ago four hours ago yeah all right well that's actually one of the things that we want to kind of do is what we call a timeline just to kind of get an idea of what you were doing since you first had contact with um shell [Music] um how do you do you call them up did he call you out or you just show up at his house or how would you decide to go over there hey I said hey come on and I went and got him yeah or equal to or yeah how do you have a phone no no no it was actually from my friends my friend Asia our friend AJ yeah we're working that's good okay you're there too yeah so you're at Scott's and your friend AJ was there yeah what's AJ's you know any other his last name or first name hi Keith yeah what do you spell it you know g-a-n-n-o-n atural what Scott and hopefully he is yeah just got there uh he's referenced as black agent is he a black guy he's a black guy okay he's got a Jimmy John's was um it's out there that money when uh AJ were at the department on Eastman yes okay um so you called chef and you think AJ's phone AJ talk to Chef did you talked to Chad yeah amen word is God which I was like and I have gone right but can you come get me and um yeah so then uh and then you're like waiting never mind I'm not ready to let them gluing around okay and then I took it you pull by yourself personally I'm grounded I took AJ and I'm gonna come on escape and then um so you and AJ want to show yeah which I think this was all right so you and AJ were at Scott's and AJ contacted chat by text message probably saying come over something like that were you and AJ using drugs at that time no we're smoking the yields Mary Jane the smoking marijuana okay so then you who went and picked up um chat completely in the front seat and then we went over a chance and so how did you get there Vivian Scott and all your kid in the van I said he's got I'm taking the van I'm picking up Shane and then he was just like no and then I'm like okay so he didn't want you to take it but you took it enough I took it anyway your business shows us consistent disregard for others okay and where'd you go his dad's house mom's house where did you go inside the house at all [Music] I knock on the door on the door sending like all right so then she got into the van and AJ was in the van and you and then where'd you go I never went too long [Applause] so me and AJ and Chad we went to his dad's house right okay yeah and yeah and then um from there when picked up some dope so was anybody at Chad's dad's house was just better yeah she's downstairs okay did you talk to him or have contacts with them how long were you think you were at Chad's dad's house all right and where did you go to store um dope like that's the thing like I don't even know what it was I almost like put in the audience and then anyone got it and then so we made our insurance to get that yeah yeah so do you remember was it a business a house or a car or something that's something in the car how flirt happened no he's just like hey you got any pretty girls inside I'm like hell no I'm Gonna Knock his ass out but he says that rains and then like for me to go in and get the dope one when I'm working in the dope in my chat will get the door social door okay and where was this do you think that's what I don't know I have no idea I just was it a house or apartment you should put the Eddie and somebody use their cell phone but find my house address could have been could have been you know we might have looked it up a deer shot put you out of the one I went into get the door how much do you buy oh that was all me I give it 100 okay so you bought 100 worth of Matt that's what I did all right and it's a three of you still in the van and where'd you guys go oh my God all right going back to Scouts it's all there then guy AJ Chad I mean what you guys do um pretty small the reefer marijuana okay baseball who had the reefer some great aluminum or is that already there it was the roofer was there the reaper was there and then after that um and then after that off so even shed smoke some yeah the two other people who started out the evening with Theory and show business were not there at the time of his death bedroom with Scott using any of it he was showing on the chair of American Fork they see you guys smoking after marijuana nope I see he can't see it no why not because that's behind them oh he's craziness by the way this way oh so then the three of you smoking uh marijuana and you and [ __ ] smoked um map and so then what happened and who went where I started crying Chad's hair that's right yeah yeah and everything and then right after that um okay shot it on foot and Shannon me put down I shot him up and I took them off I had one shot to him then where did he get that stuff from that's the same same place I know but oh she bought it with a mess he bought the other stuff too but where did he shoot him up with same [ __ ] the trazodone yeah and where did you get the transit going from the table it's the table worst table together was it Scott's trying to do yeah he is sure it's trazodone it says it on the bottom see you see cut some pills somewhere [Music] [Applause] and it was it said trazodone on the label yep [Music] with Scott's name on that too yeah can you crushed them up and then what to do with them I put it in the syringe I pulled it back and then I I shot him okay and he said he took a shot too yeah okay where did you where did you get the injection about hi Eric my friend nobody when you shot where did I shoot them off yeah sure probably in the arm in the RV there you said he got the hypo from a friend or you use drugs they call it intravenously some nutrients before yeah all right so or you guys in the bedroom and a living room or someplace else where um bedroom okay and then what do you guys do and um took off because uh we just headed over to his mom's house we got cozy on the bedroom wait we drove into the driveway right opened the door and went down the stairs once they were alone everything went downhill into businesses state it is possible that this might have happened even if the others had been with them chills on the bed and right after we chill on the bed he put the collar on he put the car around so you you would share left um Scott's in Scott's band did Scott know you were leaving I said hey I don't know you know what kind that was or was it Dave oh dark out I know um night you know what I mean what time of day what do they think oh she went to sheds parents house she has mom's house did you meet anybody as you were arriving no he didn't all right and then you went into the basement yep open the door and then into the basement down the stairs yeah the bed where you put on was it right away he started doing that this is what I remember how long do you think you're worth I really don't know it wasn't going to be at all I really don't know who's this did you sleep at all I mean I was playing with him all night so I guess you're playing with him all night yeah What alternative day I still was playing are you talking about the trophy session from the time you've got to to she has moms how long do you think you were there before you left like until she like died or like no until you actually left also yeah so by the time you first got there to the time you actually left I don't know I don't do times like I really don't do this was it overnight oh yeah so I'm asking because it was the time where they'd stop a boyfriend see the point did you at some point the boyfriend had to let you and lock the door and opened it for you guys so when you guys got there after shooting up the first time and coming back in Eastman he did open the door for you guys okay okay so then from then till the time you left how long you think it was the whole day hour I mean it was um [ __ ] I don't even know so he got there and and just mom's boyfriend and he went to the basement so you started getting together right away or do you sleep for a while or what do you think you remember you did we went there five minutes in I was already choking them all right so I have it pretty quick yeah you talk about you're playing with them oh my husband was sticking with his corpse was it light out at some point I looked up a little window I seen it you can see like so you were playing with him when he was light out yep okay all right so but particularly with them you said within five minutes of getting there I started uh he pulled off the shames I guess you were saying and he put her on his neck yeah did you put one on our you never put one around here I finally got around enough already um so he started choking and then when you were choking him what what did he do what were you guys doing I guess let's try to explain it as much as you can um he was coughing off the blood Ray and I was just waiting for him to die and then um like I was looking at his purple face business is able to describe tyrion's death and dismemberment with dispassion she enjoyed the act and it is possible that if given the chance she would repeat this question did you expect to have sex with you I felt like it was [ __ ] up I'm like damn I'm already this far so then I was just like yeah I understand but why would he put the the chain around his neck because there's a king came out there she was expecting to have sex with you she keeps that he says but she said he just um he just started told him how long to kick it for him to die three five minutes maybe but I don't know I have no idea you said that when you were joking when you started coughing my blood oh yeah but it did happen you just decided it I just like I like to see what happens when he died I just lost it yeah okay well this one was different it was kind of coffee so when he when he put the chain on his neck he thought that you got a certified to have compute sex right you think that's what Chad was thinking maybe what were you thinking I was going to do the same thing you know I was going in and I did and I went in but then he's like he put it on his back I already know I'm going in trouble and I did so all right so before that you guys was there any foreplay we launched onto the bed we went from the stairs to the bed and yeah poor clothes on and on but before you genuine around his neck where you would in Chad like kissing or any four player or anything that's a challenge so all of a sudden the chain went wrong was met oh how come I'll just try not to get it he likes it all right I'm gonna walk him like a dog and he wanted that I have no idea what I'm doing anyway the business is almost pleased by the idea that he may not have wanted her to do such things to him can you claim it was his idea it was all him right so you're on the bed the chain goes around the neck and start choking them and just realized that he was gonna die or what I'm just like [ __ ] I think I wanted a little too far because like like I was black and out while I was doing it right and then like [ __ ] and then like I felt like I don't want my [ __ ] he's already purple my [ __ ] right I'm like I don't know if he's [ __ ] during the black I'm on my [ __ ] like he was coughing on blood I'm like I don't know like okay [Music] you mean to come you said that when you were choking you'd coughing up blood you were kind of were like you know going this far I'm just gonna keep going did you realize that like continuing that that big kill oh yeah because I feel bad that is that because I'm like okay I'm just gonna be the reason after that happened so you realize that by continuing that you mean that you may actually kill him he was I swear to God he was telling me he's just like just so I'm like wow and I did it okay [Music] you use an email so that you enjoyed it right and I enjoyed it oh yeah all right would you enjoy about that I'm just it's okay thrilling a rush exciting um that's a lot that's all it is I don't know I'm just trying to understand what you feel when you're saying yes right enjoy helps you know they make you happy it was just kind of exciting like open a Christmas presents I don't know like this is uh this is the thing that I have like I've always had you know like you ever love something so much that you know it is very likely that your business has done something similar in the past with pets based on her comments about killing things she loves that's what happens to me so um all right so he's he dies he's dead and then he just kept playing with his body correct and um when did you decided to uh how long would you play with his body I think yeah when he thought it was looked outside and when it didn't light up too now it's so dark yeah coming home you know two or three hours is that awful when you um use the yeah dildo yeah did you have sex with his body at all okay sorry type of sexual contact you know obviously the dildo and stuff I grind it on and I put the New Brighton on did you ever put his penis in your vagina did you see before that you you performed a ball on him yeah okay that's after he was dead yeah yeah um he was like half hard while I was still sucking while I was done yeah oh crap okay and was that part of playing with him or that is perfect I was part of playing with him actually I was just I was ever in his head while I was doing that too well [Music] so you know so when he saws it wasn't only a couple hours before he did he's ever to ten before he did he fall asleep at any point in time or so how long did you think you were in that basement picked out of this you didn't leave until like three or four this morning right for alternate day what you do during the day um I don't know like I was kind of like dozing off like you know he was dead already was his head still on yeah that was the first thing I imagine okay what about the rest of his body no no the rest of his body it's right now I don't even know what it is it's in a big blue container you know it's like a big Tupperware it's not a tupperware but it's a tupperware a tupperware container like a little bit of storage yeah and then um body parts are in or like just they're in a black bag they are they're scattered around oh there's some bullet problems but but when did he start you know cutting up his body I was sucking and cutting into then what about the rest of his body Parts did I take all day to do I was getting pissed off at the December to go out yeah because like I was not enough time because you're kind of stupid any other drugs should have I should have I probably would have helped but I didn't show businesses only regret is that it was so difficult to cut Therian up do you remember um cut the rest of the body up [Music] okay so I just checking that's why I understand to rules so it took you a little while to cut the body apart there were times where it went and match or whatever it wasn't you didn't work non-stop but this members behind right I mean I probably did well in my sleep I do things in my sleep do things so sweet but yeah but like that's probably it right there okay you're a couple pounds stairs at all Tara came up she came downstairs and then um with a kitty cat and then she stuck a kid's head down because I was walking around and I threw the kitty cat you know and then um yeah just talk to her oh my gosh hey Tara I don't know it's just weird because like it was an open space you know like there's no close door and I'm like yeah she saw anything hi Mario I don't even have to ask questions you think she came down on one client can drop the kid again I was downstairs in the basement all right I'm watching the basement or yeah the box and then she went right back upstairs yeah and then um all right so then throughout this process you would cut off a body part with one of the knives and you would put it in the bag or the torch or something like that yeah I was still tweaking also like um and I was I was tweaking so late oh my gosh I didn't mean for all this to happen and I'm like I [ __ ] up I know I [ __ ] up [ __ ] yeah I'm sorry that's what happened no you know it's feelings got a mom my sister a dad and family and more and more of being sorry you know he killed them okay you're gonna tell the sister sorry I didn't mean for that I didn't try to help them no I didn't no it works both ways like I have no idea like it was starting to change right you was gonna die so I didn't I didn't but at the same time I woke up my [ __ ] that's bad I didn't I didn't know what to do because like he was gonna be like ah no you know what I mean because like I don't know did you liked it I liked it like I'm like [ __ ] like I didn't know what to do but like um well then you wouldn't because you didn't want to house freezer or ambulancer actually I thought about it I thought a lot of them and then um I was getting angry on myself very angry at myself because you know socks not having that for this exercise you menu for choking yeah oh yeah yeah very does it say when you were talking about Spears after you said oh you're okay everything was fine you should check on my pants boom the business admits that she knew she should get help for Therian but she was enjoying herself too much to stop thank you thank you for all three years shortly probably I believe he's in a second it won't take long so [Music] after the incident where you chopped him out can you describe how you placed him before because you said you cut his head off first correct um yeah can you describe where was he laying on the bed I pulled him okay okay so this is the top of the batter yeah okay and uh I pulled them and then uh his head was hanging off so so he was popular your face off yeah okay and then um the tub was like right there the panel that you had the yeah so basically his heads here in the buckets right here yeah no um from there I said you could have said it off yeah did after you cut his head off I know you said you dumped the pail at one point into the shower yeah did you leave the body there for a while to drain into the pail or the white house it's all in the tub in the blue tub you pop a little toe right I don't think they're slowly going through the scene so there's a lot of his blood did you pull the tub under there then oh no I moved your toe like real fast oh so you so you cut the head and we'll pull the tub under there no when I was dismembering the body yep it was I mean I'm going like this with a knife so is there a little [ __ ] going over I'm sorry okay yeah and then um but initially when you cut his head off there was a pail underneath correct yeah pixel the head one into the pale yeah the blood went into the panel and the blood bucket fell all the way up and flooded no no okay no then how did you move him again when you started with the pale because you're talking about that blue top and water thing so I think there's a there's a black pail and there's a blue tupperware thing right and then his head was hanging off and then I cut the hat off and then um I moved it over and I brought it back and then I put it in the mail okay so initially the headlight is the blue tupperware thing kind of yeah yeah there's a lot of blood in that one right now I'm a blue topper worth it yeah is that any point did you like before you because you said you would move the head first did you start removing limbs right away or did you kind of wait a little while and that's the weird thing like because um when you started happening like I started like not enough okay and then I was going crazy on the limbs like even while I was sleeping and then it looked messed up and I didn't like it okay but you believe so when you believe a blue top that big top like probably I'm thinking it's Fourier describing it's only like top order comes about like this size that's your cubic one foot one and that's what it was the blood is along my dungeon's organs the work internships yeah did you like how you doing well they're in they're in plastic bags they're in plastic bags and um backpacks yeah and um did you remove all of our hands with his intestines and everything or yeah what are the intestines if you remember um they're gonna be in a plastic bag they're all in plastic bags so that blue top is always just a lot of this is what you like to use yourself it should be like only like this much okay we're just trying to clarify a couple things I'm just trying to make sense to something yeah okay okay all right all right I appreciate it thank you all right it is hard to determine how much the drugs affected should businesses actions and how much of it was a conscious choice thank you [Music] wait um all right can we talk a few minutes again yeah so um I wasn't at the house right now there's you know what a medical grounders they're the ones that kind of like take care of um people that died and see how they die and so you know they had a bunch of questions for us that we really can't answer and the biggest questions that they have is exactly how did you um numbered shad um did you but did you you know cut arms or I mean or was it just internal organs or so you started on that right yeah did you cut it where did you remove his arms okay can you show me where you want to cut on the arms let me think we're gonna do elbows did you was this part of the art and left on Network you cut you cut off at the elbows okay you've got both arms off at the elbows I hope so because like I was saying that just a minute rememberment process I did was like really messed up because like I was not enough and then I'll I was like sawing it off did ladies use just relax all like did you remove any Partners did you use my first legs at all what was your them boys I think there's one leg that's actually intact and then um maybe I have no idea the power was his body located when he did this this memory was it in one spot or it was all in the same spot and where's that again Pluto so the body is in the hotel as you were cutting it up okay then did you empty the top of that points or you know what I mean was there a bed down there or just a mattress or there was a mattress that was laid down there should be Blood on the shoes everything should be contained in the basement since she business did nothing to hide what she had done but um yeah like I said just yeah and they'll probably figure it out eventually but um they just have some questions about um I wear a blood and might have one or most of the one I mean he said about the bucket yeah but it was when you took off his head was he lying on actress es and then I was fine what was the bucket underneath his head so it was high enough what's that it just dropped in there after I got the bone but it was high enough that it could stand up underneath goodbye you know what I mean so let's say if I visited the bed the bucket was able to fit underneath there was that bed was high enough for a bucket to fit there or would it have to be on his side or something about everybody's just fine where it's at on the edge of the bed on the floor on the bedside on the floor so there's a box string and then there's a mattress okay you know um you know what I think should happen is something that something like this to somebody else Obviously good prison time I don't know a whole lot like I don't know this was at a random I think it was the right thing to do no I did it anyway yeah and I just want to clarify when he had the chain around his neck were you behind him yeah and kind of put just one end or two ends or glitching or in um just want to give you all that part of you know I mean uh because if you wrap a chain around someone's head or you just hold one end of the chain the other and it's gonna go loose no so if you think there's a ring and there's two rings and then like you can pull the chain link from under the ring and then pull it back all right so that a loop at the end of the chain that could go around kind of like a dog choke collar yeah exactly okay do you think it was a dog choke collar go to bed very much so was it that size it was that size all right and so then you would have been was you laying on the bed or kneeling or something else you would have been um like that yeah is that what you're talking about yeah and there are two of those correct you sometimes where it does on him yeah smaller yeah [Music] this is kind of look familiar to you at all Mr Gannon yeah so he was lying face down on the bed or was he just on his hands and knees okay um hopefully that I hope that meal did you guys find all the parts here so yeah going through the process of looking your business is curious whether or not they have gathered up all the body parts but she hasn't been clear about where she placed everything to remove any other enemies that you had the heart and not let her up with the lungs if you remove all that front chest cavity or you leave them in there or if it could be in here if you remember they're all in plastic separate bags or one big bed heroin surprise at Walmart guys oh goodbye okay are you doing me doing all right you need anything are you hungry or anything or anything what I'm just fine well yeah right I mean you know immunity food or the geeked out water obviously so if you need anything or eat a restroom knock out a door and then um you realize that you know you're probably a little chill after this when we were gone so you know tell them how what it is and I'll make it screw around with anyway so all right yeah I don't know we've been poor Como with us so we're gonna be forthcoming with you and we appreciate it I mean like Dave said if somebody kill somebody and just remember some denied that that person I should go into oh [ __ ] yeah okay yeah this [ __ ] was [ __ ] up so like I don't even know like I'm like God damn yeah see where we're coming from and what we got in mind personal yeah yeah it sucks all right you need something instead of not important [Music] a jury took just 30 minutes to convict her on all counts of first degree intentional homicide mutilation of a corpse and third degree sexual assault in therian's death now she faces life in prison as the death penalty is not legal in Wisconsin that's the end of today's video if you liked what you watched and want to support the channel hit the like button and check out my patreon link in the description thanks again for watching and I'll see you next time