this is Matthew PanAm Moreno he has had several drug-related charges against him in the past but today he is being questioned for something far more serious the death of his 5-year-old son Jax PanAm Moreno called 911 to confess that he had killed the boy with a baseball bat when the police arrived they found Jax in the living room and pronounced him dead at the scene you okay you want something to drink at all thirsty you need a bottle of water yeah [Music] okay hey con you grab me a bottle of water please thank you [Music] not ice cold but all let me take the thing off here for [Music] you just kind you can kind suck on to there you can grab it can you get okay all right all right Matt just confirm uh your name Matthew yeah okay initial J you sp your last name for me p o n o m a r e n k okay your address so it's just uh it's just you and Mom that lives over at the Russell address well it was okay [Music] [Music] all right Matt before before we ask any questions all right I want you to understand your rights okay you have the right to remain silent anything you say canuse against you in court you have the right to talk to the Lord have have you have the right to talk to the Lord for advice before we ask you any questions I have to her present with you during The Question you can un hire one will be appointed as representive for question if you wish you can decide at any time to exercise these rights not answer any questions or make any any statements do you understand where are they going to do Court uh here here yeah you're you're going to have a initial appearance here on Monday I believe okay um okay do you think you can sign this what is it for this this is so you understand your rights [Music] okay all right okay is that yes or no you got to put yes or no if you understand [Music] ma' you all right yeah I'm just reading okay if you need me to read read something else just let me [Music] know okay [Applause] [Music] all right all right mat um do you know why you're here [Music] okay what happened yesterday uh the beginning of the day um I've been out of my mind the last 3 months okay I stopped taking all my medications the C pulled me off all my medications okay the psychiatrist pulled you off your Ms S for um uh young yes s [Music] okay they pulled you off all the meds mhm I told my mom about 3 months ago that I wasn't feeling right okay when you say not feeling right what do you mean [Music] um basically what I mean is that I was I was I was fine and I was fine in normal I was like sitting in my room and stuff you could ask my mom I was I was like cool I was like smoking my weed and stuff and I was taking my suboxin and then and then as soon as I got off my suboxin I got all weird and [ __ ] okay the medication pomaro mentions is prescribed to people who are being treated for addiction and I was getting out that you felt that way after getting off this of boxing yeah okay okay so when you were you feeling this way yesterday mhm when did that uh when did that start to come on you it's been happening like the last 3 months do that like like daily yeah daily okay so for the last 3 months daily you haven't been feeling all that well have you express that to to your mother I tried expressing it to everyone that I don't I don't feel mhm I don't feel right and there's nothing that no one could do for me okay so going back going back to uh yesterday uh when when Jax was dropped off um do you remember about what time that was no okay do you remember um Janice dropping jacks off no Matt can you tell me what the what happened yesterday Matt do you remember calling 911 one what's the address to your emergency oh okay and the phone number you're calling from with there Co and what's the problem tell me exactly what happened I just killed my son what do you mean you just killed your son I'm hearing voices oh okay how old's your son six where's your son now he's dead dead where in the living room all right do you have any weapons can you just sending cops we're doing that now what's your name Matt Pango I'm sorry the first name Matt Matt spell your last name for me Matt p o n o m a r n kale what's your son name Jack Jack Jack J ax and you said you hear you're hearing voices yes all right how did you kill your son with a baseball bat you killed him with a baseball bat MH and why did you kill him with a baseball bat I don't know was there anyone else there with you and him no okay all right man we've got some units on the way okay um I want you to stay on the phone with me and when did when did you do that math did you kill your son Max yeah when did this happen I'm shaking I understand when did this [Music] happen Matt when did this happen okay Matt do you have any other weapons in the home no and when did this happen okay and when did this happen Matt Matt you still there with me Matt okay in the car you're not going let me St in the car Matt Matt where are you okay Matt they're here all right well hold hold on a moment no no man I've heard from a lot of people that you're a good dad I am a good dad and that you loved your son very much so that I'm I want you to help me understand why what happened what happened yesterday okay did something did something set you off did what what happened in that house I don't know you don't you don't know do you have anything in your you picture anything my head no I'm just emotionless just nothing okay if I played you the 911 recording do you think it would help you remember yeah 4707 oh okay and the phone number you're calling from a very CL please 216 266 7827 and what's the problem tell me exactly what happened I just killed my son what do you mean you just killed your son I'm hearing voices okay how your do you remember that Mt you remember making that call okay so you do remember do you want some more water okay well that's a good thing you do remember okay making the call I don't remember a lot of stuff that's okay um let's talk about the stuff you do remember all right um do you remember you uh you texted uh Jacqueline uh Jack's therapist and you told her to you know you know don't don't bother coming today you know I'm just sick as [ __ ] do you remember giving her a text that said that no no um Jack's had an appointment at45 with Jacqueline do do you know who Jacqueline is a therapist therapist okay um cuz I haven't been feeling right okay um you don't remember Senator that text that that said that don't bother coming no well you sent that you sent that text at 1238 okay um Janice dropped off Jax at about 12 and left you at about 1210 so in between that you know we're talking about what 28 minutes in that 28 minutes kind of you know wondering what happened in that home um evidence is going to suggest you know different things um I'd like to hear it from you um and kind of I need to go to the Cy W you need to go to the cbard yes do you remember anything in that 28 minutes I just remember not feeling right not feeling right yeah okay some's not some's not right okay I've been trying to explain that to people for the last 3 months that something was not right have you had have you had numerous doctors or is this there one is there one doctor after the I've had numerous doctors I've had numerous hospital I've had numerous psych TR okay PanAm Moreno was capable of checking himself into treatment or calling someone for help the police find it suspicious that Pam Moreno immediately sets this up as a defense I recently released another highly intense video on my patreon an explosive altercation between two cops where tension escalated so quickly resulting in a drawn gun and a devastating gunshot in a mere 26 seconds witness the events unfold as two officers engage in a fight that turns deadly watch this video and more at patreon.com stranger stories Plus M were were all these um were all these visits were they all for psych issues or were they uh some of these for drug issues both both have you uh have you been using not lately not lately okay that's cuz I don't have any money okay do you remember the police coming into your house yesterday yeah I remember I remember the cops were there okay what happened when the cops got there okay and what happened uh they uh I got tased or yeah okay tased so you got tased yesterday okay why' you get taste cuz I I was put my hand in my pocket okay okay so after you got tased um do you do you remember anything after that yeah I went to the hospital okay okay so you remember getting Tas you remember going to the hospital I want you to back up a little bit okay you remember what happened inside the house it's okay Matt no it's not it's okay to let it out no it's not you can do it it's okay it's not okay it's okay to talk about it now I know I know I know you're a good dad okay that's not the issue it's not the issue I know you loved him very much something happened okay it's okay let it out it's not okay you let it out you can tell me did something happen in your house that just made you snaped with him oh I just been feeling [ __ ] crazy I know I know I know I know nobody's denying that you that dude nobody everybody I've talked to everybody everybody Janice Sean your mom everybody this is not this is not you okay um there's no I've asked is there any you know is he a violent man no the answer has always been no everybody I've talked to so something had to just trigger what happened okay let me ask you a question just a reverse course a little bit um when Jax when JX came over to the house when Jam dropped him off uh what was he wearing do you remember just regular clothes yeah okay so when um later on he was just wearing the diaper um did you end up taking off his clothes or did he just take off his clothes or was that something that he does no he takes his clothes off he does okay were you guys uh were you guys playing any games or anything like that I noce he had a he had a a tablet a pad um that he was using he's always got his tablets okay were you working on the tablet with them at all playing with them okay so you guys were playing what happened next man what happened next did whatever happen happen pretty soon after Janice dropped him off it's okay to say it Matt I just want to get help I know you do we're going to get you the help you guys aren't going to help me why why do you say that cuz I'm going to be in prison the rest of my life man if you're sick you're s I'm sick as [Music] [ __ ] and can you help me [Music] understand what went on yesterday hey have you been had you were you having these thoughts Matt were you having these thoughts before Janice dropped him off no something something snapped right man something snapped I didn't do nothing what do you mean you didn't do nothing I've I've never I've never been a violent person in my life I know I know that's not in dispute it's not I told you that from the beginning I know you're not violent that's why I want you to help me understand why what happened happened even if Pam Moreno has never been violent before that doesn't mean he is innocent there are any number of convicted murderers who outside of their crime have never raised a finger against another person I mean Matt what do you think should happen to you I want to be lock not like incarcerated I want to be S the py tell me why you need to be sent to the siteb so I can get evaluated okay and and I agree you need to be evaluated not not in dispute we still have to talk about what happened at the house we have to get through that and once we can get through that that we can get through anything I'm going to be in prison the rest of my life well if you're sick I mean who's just who's to say you don't belong in the psychor I'm not a psychiatrist cuz a psycho can't keep you forever okay I don't know how long the siteb can keep you or cannot keep you okay I I'm not that I I don't have that kind of information all right but as far as as far as your future I mean let's worry about what happened first cross that bridge when we come to it sort of thing um what would Jack say about you [ __ ] about me you did yeah I have no doubt he did no doubt sometimes things just happen where you lose all control for a brief a brief moment and is that what happened yesterday what did you just lose control no no can I restart yes I was I was sitting in my room mhm I was completely I was completely normal okay and then I'm trying to think of what happened but something told me that I needed to kill myself okay and uh I just lost all control since that Happ beened in out and then out of Psych wordss out of rehabs and [ __ ] just not nothing's nothing's felt real panaro's Behavior was typical for him in the time leading up to Jax's death if he had really expressed his concern to everyone then why did Jax's mother leave her 5-year-old non-verbal autistic son with someone who wasn't safe go ahead keep oh yeah see was this yesterday you were sitting in your room when you you felt this oh was like a couple months ago couple months ago okay it's what happened yesterday let's go let's go back to last weekend you had Jack so uh for three days Friday Saturday Sunday was it a good visit yeah remember what you guys did yeah we just do normally do I mean did you go anywhere we see was it a nice I think it was a nice weekend last weekend yeah it was nice did you guys do anything go to the park anything like that went to the park with my mom okay um did you guys get ice cream anything like that no no overall good three days good visit M and you were alone with ja numerous times um during that visit yeah did you have any of these thoughts then no no do you get along with your uh um well Janice and John yeah love them okay they love me they do they do you know what they told me today what they forgive you that's not right that's what that's not right it is they do they said this is not who you are mat that's exactly what they said this is not who who you are and they said when I was able to talk to you I was going to find out for myself that you're a good dad I'm not a dad no more you'll always be a dad not a dad no more and this isn't me so what happen do you do you remember where do you remember where everything started in the house did it start upstairs in the upper second floor what whatever happened with you and Jacks in the house we were just hanging out yeah and and what what happened after that I need help I know I want to get you that out there's steps first you know that you do you know there's things we have to discuss first we have to get to the bottom of the line you please just get me some help I will I will I get you evaluating when soon soon I don't want anything to happen to you I don't I don't think you're a bad person I don't I I don't I want you to know that I think something came over you something and and you snap that's what I think I don't think this defines Who You Are you're for all accounts and purposes you have a drug issue and you were a loving father always you know I I looked on Facebook I saw I saw how you were with your son which you posted I know who you are you know a little bit from you know from our Brief Encounter so I know I know that this you know terrible thing wasn't you know something normal for you you know what I mean this is normal no no it's not it's not it's all right to talk about it man I didn't even snap over anything okay was it just been losing my mind okay Matt where was the bat at did you have to go get it in the garage you did man did you have to go get in the garage okay and gu guide me through what happened after that I know this is hard I know this is hard I do I'm not judging you one bit I no you're not I'm not I am my heart aches for you it does it does what happened after that do you remember going back into the house with the bat no one can forgive me I know you're carrying a lot with you right now I know Matt do you remember hitting your son it's okay to let it out [Music] you want some more [Music] water Matt if um if Jax could tell me what happened what would he tell me he was not verbal if he could what would he tell me sorry I apologize what was your question Jack could tell me what happened what would he tell me you talk to my mom I talked to Mom she worried about you she loves you very much I'm stuck like this me your stuck um I never us to be like this never when did you start having kind of like mental issues about 3 years ago when I was a little kid when you little all right have you ever have you ever done anything to anybody that anybody doesn't know about you know I mean you have any secrets that youve nothing you never done anything like you never heard anybody that nobody knows about I mean at this point you know all right so you're still not violent yesterday was the most violent you've ever been in your life for a brief minute or two just to find out why that's all why I need help yeah what about uh what about Jack's mother dur in relationship with her with her for seven years years years yeah okay is good seven years yeah yeah you love her yeah what happened with that she got she got sober and I was [ __ ] up mhm did you guys uh split up then M just what mostly just because of the drugs yeah okay how long ago was that 2 years ago 2 years did that make uh did that make everything else worse well I mean yeah it sucks have you dated it since [ __ ] around with a couple girls okay but nothing no nobody body that you love no okay what do I tell Samantha on why some psychotic do you remember the incident no you remember going outside to the garage you remember getting the bat you already told me you did you already told me you you remember that part you remember going in the house you remember the cops showing up you remember what you did with the uh with your hand the reason why you got tazed you remember all of that this just isn't me from everybody I've talked to they agree with you this isn't you this isn't are you worried about how what people think about you right now I worried about that well I mean your family member stuff like that because I'm here to tell you talking to them they they care about you a lot they love you very much this is this is a special case this isn't some bad person did something bad to somebody else this is this is different this is different everybody loves you everybody has talked about what a good father you are how wonderful you were you were with your son calling panaro wonderful might be a bit of a stretch PanAm Moreno has been charged with child endangerment before when Jax was a year old PanAm Moreno left him sitting in the middle of the street while he walked around yelling at people I'm not a father no more okay how' you find out what happened you told me you don't remember how did you find out what happened did somebody tell you I it up here h i it up here well do you know what happened you don't did something in your head tell you to go get that back what else go through what else what happened go through it you can you know what happened tell me what happened I want you to know I want to know that you know okay trust me I'm not like this I know I know you're not I don't even have a felony on my record so what happened what happened after Janice dropped jack off yesterday you guys talked in the front yard for a couple minutes um you told Janice that uh you went to your uh uh you had an appointment Tuesday with a psychiatrist and that they prescribed you suboxin correct mhm you didn't go to that appointment why' you why' you li work no reason I mean I I I don't know your relationship all with her that well I mean I know that's Samantha's mother I don't I know maybe sometimes you just don't want her to know all your business or or what I don't know oh it's not even like that man do you have suboxin at home no is that something that you need suboxin yeah did the psychiatrist was the psychiatrist going to prescribe you so boxin M I was on them before did they help you yeah okay so we're back in the uh back in the yard talking to her she takes off her appointment remember what time what time she say she was going to be done in back what time would she say she's going to pick ja up I don't know I know she she was she was going to do an appointment for she might have lung cancer okay [Music] did that make you sad yeah see he said he had a good relationship with her so that's important um after she drops her drops jack off talk to her for a few minutes you guys go into the side door into the house okay what happens next you guys playing games watching TV or something yeah playing is YouTube play is YouTube all right what were you doing just I was sitting in the backyard smoking okay was he was he in the house or was he outside with you he was inside he's inside what happened then just out in the back smoking okay what happened next you don't know did you go in the garage at that point or did you go back in the house um I think from that point I I went back inside okay where was he at in the house he was inside no I know but uh was he upstairs in the basement was he on the first floor he was on the first floor okay um okay so you went inside what happened after that I didn't mean to do it okay I really didn't know believe me I know you didn't nobody would so what walk me through it we'll do it real quick and be done with it there's nothing to talk about well there's a little bit to talk about okay I know you didn't mean to do it you went back in the house did you have the bat with you when you went back in the house and then what I'm not talking about it is it just too hard it's okay I'll listen to you dude I will how long are they going to keep me in prison I don't know I don't know that's not me for for me to decide man where was can you tell me this part where was the bat in the garage was it in a box was it leaning up against the wall was in the back was in the back all right so you're outside smoking you went to get it went to retrieve the bat you went in the house did it just happen after that okay it's after it happened how long uh how long did it take you before you called 911 a while did you go out and have a couple cigarettes no no did you call anybody call the cops did you call them immediately when interviewed by the police neighbors said that they heard loud disturbing noises is coming from the panar Rinko house shortly before the police arrived did you have to get yourself together a little bit I called him right away called him right away okay all right did you get to talk to your mom last night mhm all right make sure we get to call her again real quick or later on if you want to man can you tell me was was JX doing anything that annoyed you yesterday for no never never in my life okay CU he never annoyed me ever okay can you tell me why then that's all we're going to take a little bit of a break for a second all right go and collect yourself I'll be right back [Music] thanks sorry about okay hit a PE and then I jotted down a few different things okay um so we you left your phone in the front gone okay um do you have a passcode on that phone mm no it's open no can I have your passcode no okay why not you don't want me to see anything inside of it okay is there anything in the phone you don't want me to see no no okay um now some things you were asking about while I was out there thinking about it you asked about a prison sentence all right uh basically a prison sentence is going to come down to you never been in trouble before all right like you said you really haven't you haven't been in a felony or anything like that so I don't know how much you understand about the legal the legal process basically the more truthful you are and upfront you are at this moment determines what what they're willing to do for you you know what I mean if you're willing to you know boom this is what I did I'm I can't believe I I did it and I I have some issues this is why I did it blah blah blah okay and then they have a reason why um just things like that and cuz you cuz you asked so if you ask me a question I'm going to try to read you the best possible answer um I don't want to I don't want to sit here and tell you any lies or anything like that if you ask me something I do a little bit of research and find out so do you want to talk a little bit further about about what happened mat do you know that I believe that you're not a bad guy yeah I know that you you know that I believe that right yeah okay good I want you I I want you to know that and I want you to know that you could always talk to me all right I'll leave you my information and stuff like that you know you're of course going to get attorneys involved later on and in in this and that but mat if you ever want to speak with me you can all right I know you're I know I know it hurts I do I cry myself okay I did right I didn't sleep last night I didn't I saw you at the hospital yesterday and I thought wow you're just so lost you know what I mean you're just lost and that's all you are at this moment is lost that's all I've been lost I know and I know you didn't do this on purpose I know you didn't I know you love your son I you do and those people that love you they love you and they forgive you already because they know that you didn't do this on purpose it's not okay though it's not okay no you're right it's not okay I agree with you there it's not okay but but you can't can't take it back there's no takeback in life and now you got to move forward I can't right now right now you think you can I know it's impossible for you to to look at down the road and and see anything cuz who the [ __ ] could who could but right here right now you have the opportunity to just tell me what happened explain your side of the story what the [ __ ] happened and maybe why and prosecution will be able to see that you know Matt Matt's got some issues and this is what he did and I know you're remorseful okay that that that's big too I know you remorseful I know you didn't [ __ ] mean to do this I didn't man I know believe me I know we're on the same page okay I don't think you're evil I don't think I don't think you're a monster I don't man it could have been it could have been me it could have been could have been anybody things happen to good people all the time and I see it every day and I do my best to to help these people the best I can it helps me sleep at night you know what I mean yeah it does I don't know can I ask you uh when did you know you were going to do what you were going to do I didn't know okay I mean was it the exact moment it happened was it almost like I can't even [ __ ] believe I'm doing this sort of thing yeah okay do you remember where man I know you remember but where where in the house did it first start in the living room okay did something happen in the living room or was just one of those things where you went you got the bat you walked in and boom it was over yeah I got to ask you some tough questions okay all right just go through it with me again and again I know the end you didn't you didn't mean to do this okay I know that Janice Janice drops jack off okay just so we have the story straight Janice Dro jacks off he goes inside he's playing with his tablet on YouTube you outside just uh the back patio just smoking some cigarettes mhm okay you went into the garage retrieved the uh baseball bat which was in the back of the garage mhm okay uh you went into the house mhm where'd you go into the house through the back door or through the side door back door you went through the back door it's all right relax you went through the back door did you just walk right up to him and do it I don't want to talk about it I know you don't I know you don't but I want to be able to show that you know what happened and that you're remorseful and I know you are do you know what I mean yeah I know exactly I know exactly what you mean okay and if I can get you to that point I know you don't want to do who would want to do this nobody wants to do this if you can trust me enough to get you to that point and to get that to the prosecutors that this is what happened he didn't mean for it to happen it was kind of like you know could you even laay like a zombie walk M and it just was it one just continual thing I mean to the garage retrieve the back on the house the attack only lasted a handful of minutes Pon marinko reportedly struck Jackson in the head and face with the bat and the boy was unable to run or fight back and it happened then what happened right after that called the cops you you didn't wait any any period of time I don't know do you did you sit down no Matt do you remember touching your son on on like his belly did you kneel down and and maybe touch him with your hand at all do you remember that why did you do that just cuz there's a handprint on them that's all just like you know from the blood Mark seeing if he was okay seeing if he was okay did you shake him at all Matt important question look at me look up did this happen before or after you canceled the appointment with Jacqueline after it happened after you canceled the Jacqueline so why did you cancel with jacine I wasn't feeling good you really just weren't I mean the whole the mental thing I mean was it just bearing down on you at that point yeah it's been bearing down on me for months is some is sometimes would you characterize it as worse than other times and that day when Janice dropped off Jack was was it was it bearing down on you in that moment when when you were out there talking in the yard with Janice Can you feel it no no okay so you take Jacks inside he's playing and then you went out to have a few cigarettes in the backyard and to start bearing at your mind then I don't want to talk about it why don't you want to talk about it cuz I didn't mean to do it I know you didn't I know that's not the issue you know that that's not the issue with with me and you right now I know you know I know you didn't mean to do it I know I'm not a doubt in my mind so were you in the backyard smoking the cigarettes yeah smok and then what happened what were what what entered your mind my mind mhm I don't know you don't know so were you in the backyard when you texted Jacqueline and told her you weren't feeling good no where were you at in the house upstairs upstairs well take me back a little bit because you never you never told me about being upstairs I was just upstairs listening to music was that was that before everything happened what when I was listening to music yeah yeah I was just showing up in my room what was Jack doing playing with me okay so you guys were up you guys were upstairs at that point yeah okay and then uh well we hadn't talked about that before so you guys were just hanging out and he was being you know good uh doing this YouTube thing M and uh uh you decided just to go outside cuz decent day out not too bad and I just go have a couple cigarettes out back you smoke in the house at all no no never maybe in the winter um does does Jack walk at walk up and down stairs pretty well mhm no problem I mean dipping up right up and down yeah okay um he didn't fall down the stairs at all nothing like that I mean that you're aware of okay so when did this pop in your head to do this when you were outside or when you were upstairs listening to music I'm [ __ ] is that what you're really thinking about right now no I've interviewed a lot of people and I don't think you really care about what's going on with you later right now you know what I mean when did this when did when did this pop in your head help me understand like nothing popped in my head so where you just on autopilot what's that uh where you just [ __ ] get up and just kind of do something without even thinking about it no so why did this happen then I don't know you were there I wasn't I want to be able to help you later on I do I want to be able to tell that that I said this guy is remorseful the guy told me what what he did did and he he he's not who you think he is you know what I mean I don't like I said I don't think you're a bad guy I never did I look at these cases and I think you know yeah this is a tragedy but it's also a tragedy for you people seem to forget that you're losing somebody too you know what I mean I get that I know other people don't so I mean I'm looking to be your voice to other people excuse me so you already gave me your passcode your passcode um is there anything in your phone that uh that's going to help me understand why no no can you help me understand why what why is that yeah I don't know do you know how many times you hit him you don't throughout his trial panamarenko refused to go into many details and would not give any other motive aside from hearing voices was it more than once help me help you man you're not a throwaway you're not there's no KN to do for me at this point I can only tell them try to make them understand why that's all and if you don't want me to do that then so you're going to be telling the judge tell the prosec here we talk to the prosecutor and the prosecutor will decide what kind of charges are appropriate um you know evaluations all all kinds of other stuff do you need help we get you to help you need I need help I agree I like I told you before I definitely agree I'd like to get you the help so I'm going to ask you one more time it's a hard thing to talk about brother I get it here's the thing you and I both know what happened okay the question is why did it happen I only you can answer that but I can't help you I'm um did have any can I ask you something and man to man do it have anything to do with Samantha and her new girlfriend no no you're aware of that relationship did it make you mad at all make me mad it would not going lie I've been in different relationships throughout my life and I think that pissed me off M um this didn't have anything to do with Samantha no no okay were you mad at anybody no no you don't remember how many times he did Jack's with the back no do you remember where you left the B think it was sit next to him okay when you knelt when you knelt down to check them when you touched them was he was he still with us was he still alive I can't talk about it can't talk about it is it just too hard to talk about it I just can't tell me why you can't talk about it like is it just too hard for you at this point or just don't want to what just just too [ __ ] up all right do you have any questions for me no okay do you want to get back on the phone with Mom later on tonight for sure I going arrange to make that happen yeah okay is there anybody else you want to call no just my mom just just Mom do you want to call Dad at all just Mom right okay call all right this is this is the last chance mat what's the question why I don't I honestly don't know so no anger towards anybody whatsoever I don't know you don't remember when you started to feel like this that day mhm so basically the time you spent yesterday you went inside you went upstairs you were listening to some music he was playing on uh his YouTube thing on the tablet MH you guys went downstairs in the living room he continued to play you went outside on the back patio I don't want to talk about it I'm just trying to put together a timeline that's all so I know so I know what what to tell them that's all that's it I mean this is this isn't a who done it or anything like that now it's just a m question of of why that's all I'm not mad about [Music] anything why' you do this then I don't know okay all right you ready take a little break a little break head back down back down maybe get something to eat hungry you getting hungry maybe call Mom i' like to call my mom yeah I don't see why not we'll get that done hold on down got to wait for the escort all right sure you don't have anything else to add right now okay maybe we'll talk again okay all right all right here just hold on please sit down till he's ready Nate behind you where is there thank you all right man come on out P Moreno's exact movements were never discovered he and his defense team poured all of their efforts into trying to prove his mental illness should prevent him from receiving the death penalty Matthew panamarenko was found guilty of one count of murder one count of kidnapping and one count of child endangerment he was sentenced to life in prison and will only be eligible for parole after serving 45 years thank you for watching if you like this type of content and want to support the channel there is a patreon link in the description below you'll be able to watch videos with zero ads and some that are too controversial for YouTube and you'll be supporting the channel at the same time thanks again for sticking around and I'll see you in the next video