[Music] and welcome to facts or [Music] frauds. And we're heading back to Taylor, Michigan for another sovereign citizen trying out that right to travel script. Yeah. See if it works this time. And we have a charge of speeding of 11 to 15 over. Do you understand that? Yes. All right. Has an offer been made on that, Mr. Zack? No discussions. Uh, no discussions have been uh Sorry. Go ahead. No discussions. No discussions. Would you like to have discussions with him regarding that civil infraction? Yeah, I would like it dropped. Okay. Well, I don't know that he's doing that, but he might offer you a reduced uh ticket with no points. I mean, I don't know that he will. I don't know what he'll offer you, but there could be a reduction. Do you want to discuss that possibility with Mr. Zack? Yes, I'd like to. Okay, I'll let the two of you discuss that. And I did receive your filing. I'm reviewing it now. So, if that's what you're intending to put on record, it is officially part of the court file. So, we don't need to do it orally because it's part of the file. All right. Okay. All right. I'll let you two talk and I'll see you back in just a few minutes. Thank you. All right. We're back on record. Were you two able to have discussions? Uh, we had the discussion, your honor, but we're unable to reach resolution. Okay. Was an offer made? Yes. Okay. Can you just tell me what offer? Oh, yes, your honor. Uh the people offered to reduce the charge of speeding 115 over to a double pardon. All right. And um Mr. Paige, you understand that's a civil infraction has a fine of 165, but it doesn't have any points on your license, right? Okay. And you've rejected that offer? I have. Okay. All right. So, we're proceeding with our hearing then. Um Mr. page. Is there something you want to If you're just going to read me a giant sovereign citizen objection to my jurisdiction, I'll give you a I'll give you two minutes to put whatever you want to put on record and then we're proceeding with the hearing. Fair. I have the right to be heard lawfully. Well, you have the right to ask questions to the witness and and to, you know, make any argument you want to the court. But as far as jurisdictional arguments, the court does have jurisdiction. Okay. Is this court operating in administrative or judicial law? I'm not I'm not participating in this, sir. Well, I I would have Well, you know, this is a court of law. I would have to know because there's no injured party in this case. So there doesn't have to be. There does in order to set bond against me, there has to be an injured party. Okay. Anything else? I am operating under the laws of the state of Michigan and the Michigan Constitution. And that's the information that I'm willing to provide. And it's and I'm certain you're aware of that, sir. You've lived in the United States your life for your life. And I'm also aware I have the right to freely travel at my own vehicle that I maintain and take care of. There was no injured party. I was not engaged in commerce or commercial activity. Okay. Well, they can get tickets too for speed. I'm protected under the constitution. Speed limits not law. The constitution says that actually speed limit statute code and ordinance. Correct. statute and ordinance. That's correct. So, how can I be charged if we're operating under this type of law and no injured party? Well, your federal right to travel under the state or the federal constitution doesn't mean that you're not subject to regulatory. I mean, do do we not have to get driver's licenses? Do we not have to get car insurance? Do we not have to follow basic speed laws? I mean, you can have a constitutional right with limits and uh or regulatory provisions or statutory provisions. The the right to drive is not written in the constitution. The right to travel is Yeah. And that's I made that clear to the officer that I was traveling. I wasn't driving. I had that were in film, too. So, were you in a car? Yes, I was. All right. You were operating a motor vehicle and were you in the city of Taylor? Yes. Okay. All right. I wasn't operating a motor vehicle though. I was traveling freely down the road that I maintain and take care of myself. That's my property. Okay. I understand that. That doesn't affect this. I mean, you were driving a car in the city of Taylor. Uhhuh. Yes. Okay. And that's why we're here. Okay. Okay. Your honor, people would wave for opening at this time and be prepared to call their first witness when you're ready. Okay. Call your first witness. Thank you, honor. At this time, you call Corporal Billy Schillingberg to the stand. Officer, if you can come on up to the witness stand. Raise your right hand when you get up here. You solemnly swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help you back. I do. Okay. Have a seat. Mr. Ze, your witness. Thank you. Uh, Corpal Schelberg, can you uh state your name and badge number for the record? Corporal Billy Shingberg, badge number 261. And you're employed with the Taylor Police Department? I am. And what's your position with uh the police department? My rank as a corporal in the traffic. And uh Mr. Schberg, uh, were you working back on November 4th of 2024 in the afternoon hours? All right. I'm going to, uh, direct your attention, uh, back to that, uh, date and time. Uh, can you uh describe to the court where you were approximately um doing traffic detail on November 4th, 2024 at about 1:35 p.m. at that time? November 4th, 2024, approximately 1:49 p.m. I cinger I was sitting stationary and uh uh sir, you can't read off your report. You can use it if you want to use it to refresh your memory. You're free to read it, but you can't just read the report into the record. Iber was uh sitting stationary monitoring traffic on southbound telegraph south of Rust Road when I observed a silver fusion traveling faster than vehicles around it. First time I activated my lighter device, which I am trained and certified to use in the state of Michigan. Um pointed the lighter directly at the hood of uh Mr. page's vehicle and received a reading of 58 mph in a 45 mph zone at 694.5 ft. Wait, say that again. 58 mph. Now, what was the speed limit there? 45. And uh, Corpal, this all occurred in the city of Taylor County of Wayne, state of Michigan. Yes, sir. All right. And you indicated you're certified with the LAR device. Can you briefly uh explain uh how that works and what does it mean when uh you got a reading at 694.6 feet? So the ladder device in order to operate it uh you have to go through a training class to be certified to use it. Um when you activate or turn on the ladder device, it has to go through a self inspection and it has to pass all of these self inspections for it to work. Um in that particular day I did my self inspection of the device, powered it on, it did pass all tests. Um so the way the lighter works is when you um point the lighter at the hood of the vehicle, it'll give you a speed reading and a feed reading. Uh so the feed is the distance away from where the LAR is to the vehicle approaching my position. And based on the reading that you received of 58 uh and you were monitoring a 45 mph zone, what did you do next? At that time when I got the 50 and 45 um when I got the 50 to 45, set my lighter device down. I maintained visual visual sight of the vehicle that I got a reading from. Uh when Mr. They approached my patrol vehicle when I exited the parking lot which I was sitting in after I approached your vehicle. All right. I I think Can you just clarify when you say I never got out of my vehicle. All right. Well, I Let's let him clarify the answer. I took it to mean something else. So, let No, you have a right to make an objection. Can you just have him clarify what he means? Yes. Corporal Shelberg, can you please clarify your last statement? So sitting on the west side of Telegraph Road monitoring cell phone traffic in a parking lot. Um and that was the parking lot of Turbo Motors. Yes. 122 200 Telegraph. Yes. Okay. So sitting stationary in that parking lot. When I got the reading of 58 and a 45, Mr. Paige was 694.6 ft away from my vehicle. So, as he passed my vehicle in his automobile, that's when I got to the parking lot, pulled behind his vehicle, activated my emergency lights, and initiated a traffic stop on his vehicle. All right. And that traffic stop was initiated in the parking lot uh down the road at 12510 South Telegraph. Yes, that would be the Enterprise. What was it? Enterprise. Enterprise. Okay. All right. And uh you maintain visual contact with the vehicle the entire time? All right. Uh, did you at some point identify the driver of that 2020 Ford Fusion silver in color? I did. All right. And, uh, just for purpose of the record, do you see that individual in the courtroom here today? I do. And describe what he's wearing. Brown suit and black shirt. Your honor, let the record reflect that he has identified the defendant, Zachary Ryan Page, seat of that council table. the record shall still reflect. Uh did based on uh your reading and your observations uh Corporal Schelberg, did you then issue a citation to the defendant? So while we were on the traffic stop, I asked Mr. Page for his identification numerous times. Um which he refused to do so refused to do so. Uh at that time, Sergeant Kish made the made my location. Um Mr. Paige eventually ended up providing a driver license to Sergeant Kish at that time. Um I was able to issue my citations with the speed 11 hour. And uh when you were observing traffic on southbound telegraph from your location at Turbo Motors, did you have a maintain uh were you able to maintain a clear visual of traffic and uh the defendant's vehicle? Yes. Okay. Your honor, I have no further questions this witness at this time. All right, Mr. Pa, you have some questions for the witness. You're free to step to the podium just so the court reporter can take everything down. Uh, no questions. Okay. All right. Excuse Corporal Kish. Thank you for uh people rest at this time, your honor. All right. Do you have anything you uh want to enter into the record? I want to enter into the record that I'm here today making special appearance under Sjurus as one of the people of Michigan, not as a defendant under the jurisdiction of this court. I'm asserting my un unalienable rights as secured by the Michigan Declaration of Rights under the United States Constitution, particularly under article 1, section one of the Michigan Constitution, which is establishes all political power is inherent in the people. At that outset, I raise jurisdictional challenge to the court. Your may I interrupt and I apologize for for interrupting, but Corporal Shelberg is our traffic supervisor and there's been an issue over the Taylor Police Department this morning. Technical He's free. He's free to go. Do you have any other questions for Corporal Scholenberg? No. All right. Corporal Scholenberg, you're excused. Thank you. All right. Go ahead, sir. This house said, "I raise jurisdictional challenge to the court as jurisdiction must be proven on the record before any further proceedings can lawfully continue. The separation of powers doctrine as outlined in article 3 section 2 of the US Constitution and the Michigan Constitution makes it clear that no branch of government may exercise the powers of another. Before proceeding, I require clarification on whether this court is operating in a judicial capacity or administrative. If this court is acting under administrative directives or executive branch policies rather than operating as a constitutionally recognized judicial body, then it is exceeding its lawful authority. No administrative agency, including the SOS, possesses lawful authority to direct judicial rulings or override the people's due process rights. Any two any attempt to enforce such directives constitutes an unconstitutional exercise of power rendering these proceedings null and void abio. Furthermore, jurisdiction cannot be established by assumption, presumption, or coercion. Due process demands that I'm provided with clear lawful authority establishing the legitimacy the legitimacy of this court's jurisdiction over me. an individual exercising my constitutionally protected right to travel. Without such proof, this court is proceeding without lawful authority and rule and any ruling is issued a legal nully. I now formally demand at this court's place on the record the specific constitutional authority established in jurisdiction over me as one of the people of Michigan the legal basis that allows this court to act under administrative directives or executive policies without violating the separation of powers doctrine. proof that I was engaged in regulated commercial activity as no jurisdiction exists absent clear evidence that I was operating as a licency in commerce at the time of the alleged incident. Until these fundamental issues are resolved, I will not proceed under any assumption that this court has lawful jurisdiction over me. To do otherwise would be to wave my inherent rights which I do not consent to. I stand firmly on my right to due process, equal protection, and the supremacy of constitutional law. The burden is on the prosecution and the court to establish jurisdiction before any further action can lawfully take place. All right. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. All right. I heard testimony today from uh Corporal Billy Schillingberg. Um, Corpal Schoingberg testified he is a uh works the traffic bureau at the city of Taylor uh and that he was in that capacity working in that capacity on November 4th of 2024 at 1:35 p.m. approximately. He testified that this occurred within the city of Taylor within the state of Michigan. He testified that he uh was trained and certified to use LAR devices uh and that the device had been inspected. He explained how the device is pl uh at uh placed at the hood of the vehicle or uh aimed at the hood of the vehicle and it determines the speed and feet from the lighter device. He testified that uh at the time, I can't recall the exact number, but he was approximately 600 ft away from the driver of the Silver Ford Fusion and that he was clocked at a speed of 58 in a 45 mile hour zone. He testified as the vehicle uh came towards him and passed him. Uh he put his device down and uh initiated a traffic stop. The stop ultimately occurred at 12510 which is on Telegraph Road which is the business of Enterprise. He uh Corporal Scholberg also identified uh Mr. Paige as the driver of the motor vehicle and his license was ultimately produced and he was issued a traffic citation. The standard for these hearings is not beyond a reasonable doubt. And um there was no questions uh to officer Schillingberg um that offered any contradictory testimony to the testimony that was issued in this case. Therefore, Mr. Page, I find you responsible of the civil infraction of speeding 11 to 15 over and that has a fine of $130. Mr. Paige, do you need time to pay? I do. Okay. Uh, how much can you pay in 30 days? I mean, yeah, if I got on a payment plan. All right. What would you rather pay something on a monthly basis? Can you pay $70 a month? $50 a month. Tell me what you 50 a month. Yeah. All right. They'll send you notice of the payment plan. Are you in hidden lane still? Yes. All right, Mr. Paige. You'll receive notice of that in the mail. Now, do you think this show is educational? Yes, it'll drive people to read books. And thanks for hanging out with us on Facts Frauds. Make sure you hit the thumbs up button, you subscribe, and ring that bell. Also, leave a comment in the comment section. Tell me what you think. And a huge thank you to all of our Facts or Frauds channel members. [Music] And if you're still hanging out, thank you. I appreciate you all. 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