Matt, use your left hand and unlock the door. Only your left hand. Put your hands back on your head. Do not move. >> Yes, sir. >> This is Matthew Moore and he's either guilty of killing his wife or he's one of the unluckiest men alive. The interrogation you're about to see is going to make you wonder which story really adds up. Will you will you acknowledge that that's some pretty heavy [ __ ] When your wife said I'm took up my wedding ring, I don't think we're going to stay together. It's not as heavy as you think it is. >> Since she haven't been easily found, is it plausible that she didn't kill herself? >> You tell me. You're the police. I'm not I'm not >> I just want you to just look at the entire thing. >> I know I did not hurt. I didn't So the only other thing that I think of is that she did something. On May 25th, 2020, Matthew Moore reported his wife Emily Noble missing from their home in Westerville, Ohio, just hours after celebrating her 52nd birthday. >> Okay. So, what's going on? >> She's uh uncharacter uncharacteristically missing. >> Okay. Uh just her her wallet's here. Here's a wallet. I need some money. phone is here. Cars in the garage and I've been up since 10. Probably 10 a.m. today. Probably guessing about that time. A little bit little bit later than I usually sleep and she's just hasn't been here. I I sleep in this room. I get up in the middle of the night sometimes. uh got this morning. All I did was look on my phone, find my phone and said she was here. So this morning, >> did you call her? >> I called. She's her best friend and I just called her like an hour. I've been waiting around. >> But this missing person report would eventually spiral into something far bigger and end with Matthew Moore in handcuffs. In this case, nothing is as straightforward as it seems. Even when the cuffs go on, the story is far from over. To understand how detectives got to that point, we need to go back to the very beginning when Matthew first sat down in the interrogation room. >> So, now like I told you, you when we were out there said, you were not under arrest. Uh you were in handcuffs coming in. Is that correct? >> Correct. >> Okay. >> And that door doesn't lock. This is a voluntary interview. Okay. Obviously, we need to do the best we can to get the full story. You can find your wife and you can get back to normal. Obviously, part of that involves talking with you. So, um you know, again, this this is a voluntary thing. You know, I I told you out there, I haven't lied to you. I'm not going to start it out. >> We We could have done this at my house. >> No, this part we can't can't do it >> because it's not voluntary. >> No, it's completely voluntary. >> And I could leave, but I don't want to. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I don't want to. I'm just >> Yeah. Try that right now. >> At some point, could we like I want to help you. I want to get this going cuz I didn't do it. And I want you to find whatever the hell happened to her. I want I want to to happen. But just You would notice that Matthew would keep saying, "I didn't do it." But here's the thing. No one had actually accused him yet. This is the kind of denial that comes out of fear or guilt or maybe just paranoia. Either way, it raises eyebrows. >> I'm an open book. >> I don't I don't mean to insult you. No. >> But you can read English, correct? >> Yes. >> Okay. I have to ask that because I've had people before that >> when I go over rights waivers later on they magically can't read English. >> I can read. >> So again I don't mean to insult you. >> So it says before we ask any questions you must understand your rights. You understand that part? >> Yes. >> You have the right to remain silent. >> Is it a lot? >> That's weird. >> These are my Miranda warnings. >> So I'm being arrested. You're not being arrested. >> So why am I being rid of my mind anymore? >> Because it's the standard uh protocol that I do just to make sure that we are on the same page with you. I told you honesty. I I be fully aware of everything. I I told you not be arrested. Anything you say can be used against you in court. You understand? >> You have the right to talk to a lawyer before we ask you any questions and to have a lawyer with you during question. Do you understand that? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> So now when when you called to uh report Emily on Monday evening, Officer Hollis was the one that came out. Correct. >> Like like I have you said. >> Yes. >> Very friendly death. >> Okay. Did they treat you well? >> Absolutely. >> Okay. Did he have you pro provide any sort sort of I can't even talk. It's been trust me I'm you're going to have a hard time talking. >> Well, if you get some time, I'll totally get it. Did he have you fill out any sort of written statement as to what had happened? >> No. >> Okay. What I would like from you, and I I've got paper here for you, and I will leave and give you peace. If you want me to stay in here, I can stay in here. It's up to you. >> Stay in here with me. >> Okay. is and I'll be completely quiet, but I just need a statement from you. You know, starting from, you know, when you went to bed on Sunday evening until you called the police on Monday at whatever time it was. >> I mean, okay. >> I mean, I I and I understand that you've talked about it and everything else like that. However, it's just a procedural thing that that needs to happen. And honestly, I told you I I like honesty. I'm not happy that officer Holl didn't get that on Monday. >> It's probably fresher in my mind then. Um >> I >> not I've gone through this in my head with the timeline and some of my times don't line up. I made a phone call when I thought I was sleeping. >> Okay. >> So I I mean I I try my best, but I don't want to make >> Buting faults. >> You're human, right? >> Yeah. I'm human >> and all I want is your best. >> It it might be I could specific times I couldn't really be like this is when I did this, this is when I did that. I could if I had my phone sort of >> just the the best that you can >> saying my timeline's fuzzy is a double-edged sword. On one hand, memory distortion is normal, especially under stress. On the other hand, it's a textbook move for someone trying to leave wiggle room in their alibi. Which one do you think he is? >> Yeah. I mean, yeah, man. >> I mean, >> just know that the times are going to be might be wrong and I would hate to give you a wrong time and then be like suspects me something. >> I just don't want a blatant lie like the sky is purple. >> Something like that. >> If if you say this happened at 451 and I'm like, "Oh, no, that's [ __ ] It was 455." It could be an hour off. It could be I mean, it was night. It was just like any other night. It wasn't >> correct. So, I'm not like taking my time, >> right? And you're human. >> It was a normal night. We drank. We came home. We hung out. I took I I left because I wake up in the middle of the night to go pee. I don't go back into the bedroom cuz I don't want to wake her up. I sleep in the my son's room. Who who doesn't live anymore? um on the couch and I slept I made I made textes and I talked to people during that period. >> Okay. >> And that's on the phone. >> Just that the best in your own words, >> but I can't tell you, hey, I made textes at 5, at 3, you know what I mean? I I can't I won't write down times, but I'll just kind of give you a a brief like a story without times because I think >> but just any instance that you can recall like I'm not so time focused right now. It's just the the fact that I just I want to be able to make sure I have everything sequentially. It >> I from how I understand it. I want to make sure that, you know, I can pick it up and go, "Oh, yeah, that that's right." That he, you know, when he woke up, you then moved the refrigerator on the roof, you know, whatever it may be. And I want to make sure that sequentially I understand. >> You help me write it cuz I'm I can't spell for one. I'm pretty horrible. Or like just kind of help me. >> Well, if you need help with a word, I can help you spell it. Absolutely. And I'm not here to judge spelling day >> just from when you went to bed, you know, that that Sunday night. >> So you don't want to know about where we were prior to? >> No. No. That's always, you know, stuff that we can follow along. Yep. >> Cuz I'm not really sure when we got home. >> Okay. from um so just name, address, date of birth, and then you don't have to worry about anything on this side. >> Your handwriting is actually much more pleasant than some other ones that I've seen. And I I really want you to just take your time. You make sure that we're all >> Yeah. I mean, the same page. >> I got We got home got home from being in uptown. We talked. It was her birthday. We talked. We went to bed. together. Do I tell that? Do I say we had sex or >> any details like that? I mean, we're all adults. >> Made love. I guess was your birthday. Fell asleep. I fell asleep. I'm not sure if she did. She might have stayed up. I'm not sure, but I passed out. Woke up. Confidence and confusion together is a weird cocktail. But sometimes it's the most authentic because liars usually try too hard to be consistent. While truth tellers may stumble, >> went up to pee to pee of urinate. I did look at the clock. I don't want to say that I knew what time it was. But whenever I wake up to go to the bathroom, I look the clock to see how close it is to the morning. And that determines whether I take a sleeping pill or not. which is I don't know the name of it. I took a half and it was earlier so I'm going to say I don't want to tell say goodbye. I mean like 1 maybe which is early and uh I woke up to urinate went to my son's room to sleep on couch made a few texts messages at me s text messages I might have posted on Facebook I don't know say I did if I I didn't look might have posted on Facebook, tal I I talked I I texted my stepfather. I know I did. He texted back. I think my time was it was 3. I think he got back to me at 8. From what I saw today, I actually text back to him at 8. So, I might have been awake later than I thought, but at some point at some point late morning late morning, late night early morning or >> Yeah. you know, late I get >> like 8 7 6 I don't know whenever it is late late night late early morning or it's at some po point. >> Was it sun up? >> Yeah. I couldn't tell you. Okay. >> I couldn't tell you. At some point it I'm gonna say it was starting to be gone because um there's a reason for that because usually I do fall back sleep before it gets laid out and then I usually wake up at like 8:00 7:00. You know what I mean? I didn't wake up till like past 11 I think which is really late. I could have woke up a few times in between then to some point fell back to sleep. cuz I think I did at some point at mid morning make a text to somebody. Um I'm not sure. I don't know if I should put that down. Okay, >> I might um made uh mid morning text. Then Matthew says he woke up around noon. Now, if you're staging an alibi, the later you wake up, the less you have to account for. I text Emily to see if we were going to a Memorial Day. I spell that. M A M >> O R I A L >> M A O >> M E M >> M E M >> O R >> O R >> I A L >> I A L They picnic. I don't know the guy's name. I got it written down for sure. You guys already know. I think >> she didn't she didn't she didn't respond. Respond. I'm not honor presenter, but I checked my find phone app and it said that she was there. >> How long after you sent the text when you if you had a ballpark? >> I don't know. >> More than an hour? >> No, it was probably within like >> 5 10 minutes. >> I'm guessing. I'm going to guess. I'm going to guess. I don't know. But I do know that I looked just to see if she was still in the house cuz you know what I mean it was later I thought maybe she could have left you know early you know cuz she didn't come in and wake me up which she does at I mean we had some place to go she didn't respond at some point I checked my find find a phone and it was still there um I don't know how much longer I lied in bed but I know I made another text to her at 3 around 3:00 and said well I guess we're not going and I'd already been up in the house so I didn't know her phone was on then I I hadn't seen her phone by then, I don't think. Or I wouldn't have texted. I wouldn't It would have been right there. I don't know how I heard that. She didn't respond. I retexted. I got up. I got up, looked through the house. I checked for her car which was there which was there went back to my son's room room lie on the couch. Psychologists say liars usually add extra details to make their story sound airtight. But Matthew doesn't seem calculated because he doesn't stop to plan his words. Which begs the question, is this raw truth or a script he's memorized so well it flows like water? Here's a quick reminder that I have a Patreon page with a ton of exclusive and adfree content like this one about a predator that was exposed live on TV. His interrogation is definitely something you'd want to watch and you can do that right now at patreon.com/strangertories [Music] plus flipping to the phone. I don't know if I made any I get any text messages or not. I'll have to load some point in the afternoon. I noticed the phone. I noticed her wallet. >> Okay. Where were those at? Her phone was next to her bed, her wallet. This I don't remember. Um her car before all of a sudden just at some point in the afternoon I realized that there was somebody things all her stuff was there and she was gone and she hadn't come back. I called her friendless every got home from being in Uptown. We talked, we went to bed together, made love, fell asleep, woke up to urinate, went to my son's room to sleep on couch, spent time, looked at phone, made a few text messages, might have passed Facebook. At some point, some point I fell back asleep, another morning text. I remember awaking towards noon, text Emily to see if we were going to a Memorial Day picnic. She didn't respond. I got up, looked to the house, I checked for her car, which was there. Went back to my son's room only because I didn't think that anything was at that point wrong. Walks around. She does things. She's just not there at that point. >> To the house. I checked for a car which was there. I went back to my son's lid on the couch, looked into the phone. At some point in the afternoon, I realized there was something wrong. I called her friend Celeste. We talked. She said, "Call the police." When I saw her phone at some point, when I saw her phone, it was probably the last thing I really was like, "This is not right." Okay. The phone is pretty much returned. I mean, >> can I read over? And this is where things heat up. The detectives shift gears into cross-examination. >> So, you don't remember what time you came back from Uptown? >> We came directly from I think our last bar was the um not the hood lines. What's that other old school bag of? >> And and I think I had the receipt. It was only for like 20. We got fish fry, maybe a couple drinks. I don't think we were there for that long. We could check with them. They I think they probably will know. >> And then sent in from Old Maggie. >> We walked across the street. We were parked across the street behind Cold Base and we went right. >> Okay. And was the sun still out when you got home? >> I'm guessing that it probably was. >> Okay. >> But I don't know. >> Were you intoxicated when you drove back? >> I mean, yeah. I >> I appreciate the answer. Well done. >> Okay. Okay. So, >> you weren't stumbling around. >> If you had to approximate that time, >> 8 n um I'm we we um we went to my father's. We gardened. You'd have to check with him, but I think we left there around 4 or 5. We got there at noon. We usually garden for about 4 hours. It was hot. >> He had friends over. We were gonna We went home. We washed up and we weren't ready. We didn't take showers. We just kind of washed up because we were pretty dirty and went too far. So, I mean, we were there early. >> Okay. >> So, and we wouldn't make it's not going to be like getting home until 12 for months. It's earlier. It's like 910 that No, no later. And it could have been even earlier than that. >> So, you thinking 8 9ish? >> I don't. Yeah. 8 9 10. >> So, then you get home and you hang out. Do you drink any more at home if you guys work? >> Um I I she she has beers in the fridge and I I I the only reason there's beer in my house right now cuz that's all that was in there. I I don't drink beer. I do. >> I wouldn't get home vodka. >> So I I sip vodka on on the rocks and I didn't have any use it when I get home after drinking. I don't that's it for me. She'll she'll she'll continue to drink sometimes. >> Okay. And you guys hung out and talked. >> We hung out in the kitchen and we got really along really super well. It was her birthday. We started making out and we went into the bedroom and we had sex. >> Okay. And that's in So there's the like the master bedroom. >> Mhm. >> Just to make sure that I'm different. >> The master bedroom >> and then there's the the what you call your man cave. >> That would be my son. >> Joey's room. Yeah. >> Okay. Just to make sure that I'm separating. Right. You went to your bedroom and had sex. >> I went into the master bedroom with my wife and that's where she likes sometimes she sleeps on the on the on the porch on the ground. She likes to be outside. I don't know if she went in there like at some point as far as I know. I fell asleep. I woke up cuz I have to pee. Um she was there. I mean I wouldn't know if she wasn't. I would just you know you know if you're not there. I didn't have any inkling that she wasn't there. I remember looking at the clock because I like to time my when I have how much time I have left to sleep. So I whether I take a pill and just fall asleep or not. I don't know if I did or not. I might have been drunk enough and I went into Joey's room. But on the couch it's something that happens every night. I don't think there's a night that goes by that I sleep all the way through and I always have to get up and go pee because I'm passive. And uh >> hold on. So you got up to go pee and the routine is after you pee, then you don't climb back into bed before. >> Yeah. >> And the routine is that you look at the clock to see if you should take a sleeping pill or not. >> How much time I have left before, you know, if it's like real late into the night, I won't take one. Um just but it's early but I don't know. It was early but I don't know if I took one or not. So >> do you know what type of medicine? >> It's like a ambian but it's some other derivative of ambient and I take it half >> who who's up at that time. >> Uh you'd have to check I have a friend in Vegas so he would be in he's up. So his three is 12 out there. I'm not sure you like this guy that you don't remember who you texted. >> Now, this is where things get slightly suspicious. And if Matthew really is innocent, this is exactly the point where he should have had an attorney sitting next to him. >> I I remember texting my stepfather and that was the one that was at 8 and he said 8 our time. He's East Coast. So >> you text Yeah. After after midnight. That's right. >> So is it after midnight? at 8 like 8:00 a.m. that you texted >> 8. No, it was that night. That early morning 8:00 a.m. >> Our time. >> Yes, he's >> Okay. But what about like at 1 or 2 or whatever time it was? >> I made a uh I made a post at um like 3:00 in the morning and I think it was to my brother Paul and >> like Facebook post >> um on Messenger. You'll have to check. I don't want to lie. 9 months a day, you know what I mean? But I think it was something funny about uh the MMA fighter guy, the guy that runs the UFC that's having some sort of >> stuff that's off the shore. He's not he's doing distancing. >> So, was this a social media post or like a text message? >> Was it I IM? Is it like a messenger that other people can't see? It's just >> So that you sent it iPhone to iPhone. >> Yeah. And this was at like three. >> I think it was at 3. >> This was stepbrother. >> Half brother. Follow in Florida. >> Half brother. >> And and and I'm fairly I mean I went I've been kind of doing my thing trying to figure out timelines and stuff. And I'm >> pretty sure and I think there's one more in there too that I sent out that I don't know if anybody responded to how I sent it out. I'm not sure. >> He says he's piecing together the timeline. But would someone who'd just committed a crime be so outwardly procedural? It's the sort of comment that either signals genuine confusion or very calm attempt to sound credible. >> And you haven't gone back to look to see. >> I did. I just I'm nervous right now. I'm not really sure. I don't think they responded to it. So I don't I'm not sure. I have five friends that I we kind of like just goof around and text each other. And >> So did you text the one friend or the five friends? I I didn't text my boyfriend. I remember texting my I believe it was my brother about the uh Dana White issue and I remember texting my stepfather about um the water bottles. He collects um he collects spring water. and drink spring water and we just started doing that and we go that day we went down and got stream of spring water and I was talking about how the shelf life of water >> you texted him that that night too >> that early morning >> yeah 3ish or whatever >> Monday early morning >> yes >> no it wasn't 3:00 it was so I I said it was more like >> anytime from midnight to 3ish >> when we see the the um the times he might have responded at 8:00 and I texted him at 3. You know, I don't I I would have to see my phone to death. Okay. >> But there was definitely correspondence going on while I'm trying to fall asleep at night. >> Any social media posts? >> I have to check. I don't I don't I don't think so. I don't think so. But at some point in the morning, I fell back asleep. I did get back to sleep and I didn't wake up until late into the morning. And and the first thing I did was because I knew we had to go to this we've been invited to a party. It was I said, "Hey, we used to go we used to go to the party." And she didn't respond. >> And where was that party? >> I don't know him. She just barely knows him. He's on there. I talked to him actually cuz they I gave him uh they were like, "Who's who is this guy?" And I found out who he was and they called him and I I actually I I texted him and I I asked him maybe she went over there. Um, you test out my earphone. >> I'm not sure if it was hers cuz it was still her. I don't even know this guy. And >> from an investigative standpoint, that's very suspicious. Suspects who access a victim's device are often trying to alter the digital trail. It doesn't prove guilt, but it certainly narrows the circle of trust. >> Keith, I asked, "Hey, I'm going to go over there. Maybe she went over there without me. Maybe I saw too late." She said, "Yeah, whatever. Not going to get him up. I'm just going to go out." And he said that he had heard from all day. >> About what time was that? >> 11 12. Maybe close to 12. >> You texted him? >> Um, no. I don't know when I Maybe a couple hours after that, I would hate to not say I don't. >> So then, you know, in your words, you got up like around 11ish. I was I was it closer to to to to um to to uh 12 cuz I the other day if I could remember correctly and I got up and I walked around and she wasn't there and I'm like okay she's out doing her thing and I just I went back to my college I remember from the night before and then the next thing I did was text her again at I think 3. It was like 3 hours later and I'm like I guess we're not going to the party. Where are you? I didn't ask her that, but I was like, I guess we're not going to the party. That was the last thing. I texted her. Got up again. And then I look, there's her car. There's her purse. There's her phone. Things started. This is not right. >> Where where was her phone when we found it? >> On her end table. >> Is that normally where? >> Yes. Well, um no. I mean, yeah. Sometimes if she's lying there, that's where it is. >> Does she generally sleep in the bed? Like I said, she's sometimes she sleeps on the um on the floor. She's just been recently doing that. >> Well, what I'm saying is when she sleeps in bed, is her phone on the end table next to the bed? >> Yeah. Okay. I mean, >> and then when she sleeps on the floor, where does she put her phone? >> Yeah, she the phone's with her next to >> Does she always have her phone with her? >> It she always has her phone with her. And and the only time she doesn't and I said this um when the first guy that came over um she she goes out with these forage things and she does this rude and um he was like does she ever go out at night you know by herself and I'm like no she does at night that that's something and and but she does at at times now that I think of it especially if she's got a buzz and she's drinking she'll get that she'll grab a flashlight and she so she so she so she so she so she so she so she so she so she so she so gone and she comes back with the the horse and she shows them rewind question so between 11 and 3 what were you doing were you just laying there on the couch >> 11:00 in the morning till 3:00 in the afternoon it was it was lying in my son kind of just chilling recovering waiting for her bathroom at any point >> I don't yeah there was yeah there was periods where I mean I definitely got up and Okay. You didn't know if she was gone or >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Absolutely. That the the first time when I texted her and said, "Are we going to this party and she didn't get back to me?" I checked the uh find my phone and the phone said that she was there. So, I'm like, "Okay." You know what I mean? At some point that happened. So, it just didn't Okay, she's she's doing her thing. She's going to come in and get me when we're ready to go or whatever. At some point, it didn't happen. She didn't come in and get me. I got up, went out there. I had him between 11 and 3 at some point. It still wasn't a big concern. I wasn't like, you know, freaked out. I was I kind of went around a little bit and the the first thing I did was look to see if her car was there cuz she would have took off. You know, she that would have made sense when she left, but her car was there. So, well, okay. You know, she's doing something. She's just out and about. I texted her again at 3:00. I'm pretty sure that's the time you guys can check the check the >> in between those two times you texted the gentleman in >> No, not I didn't get concerned until that the second time I texted her and said, "Hey, I guess we're not going to text 3:40. Could have been 350." Okay. >> Then then after that text, that's when I got I didn't even know her phone was was still there until cuz I texted it. So, her sister um made a group text that I don't I didn't notice. And her sister says it was at 3:45. >> Mhm. >> And she says she responded to it >> at 3:45 p.m. on Monday. >> Yes. This is immediate cause for concern. If Emily was missing yet messages or replies are coming from her phone, especially a phone that was supposed to be at home, that doesn't help Matthew's story. The timeline gets messier when you remember the dates. Emily was last seen May 24th, which was her birthday, and her sister Amy's birthday was May 26th. They shared a sweet tradition between them. Every year on May 25th, when they shared the same age, they would make calls and have long conversations. If Emily was planning to harm herself, choosing that emotionally charged day for it seems unlikely. >> Let me think. I'm getting screwed up. I'm I'm I'm getting this screwed up. Maybe it was No, it was 8:45 in the morning. That's what it was. So, while I'm sleeping. >> So, her sister was her sister. >> Her sister name is Amy. >> Okay. >> She said she sent a group text 8:45 then >> to her and I and from that you can tell whether someone answers it, views it. And she said that we both viewed it at some point. I don't know when I did. She said that I don't know if you can tell when they get they they get viewed, but it was viewed and I didn't it wasn't me that viewed it with the phone. So to me, she was there at 8:45 or 8:00 in the morning. She Emily was there. That's my guy across the street, John said that he saw her at 10:00 or 10:30, whatever. >> That's incorrect. John's back. >> Okay. >> Yeah, that's kind of what we need. So that makes it look bad for me. >> Well, it just makes you gray. Not to just We're not going to put >> You guys want to look at anything in my body. You want to look at any anything at all. I'm I'm I'm here. >> Well, let's just let's just talk. >> I hope you guys know that I love my wife and I would never That's kind of where I was going to go next is so cuz we've kind of beat this timeline down pretty good. So you guys got married two years ago. >> We got married August 1828 August 28th, 2018. Easy one to remember, right? >> 828. >> Okay. >> And I had a son. Do you need tissues or anything? Drink water. Okay. We know about them. We don't We don't need them. [Music] We don't want to bring up bad memories. So, let's let's try and focus on Okay, cuz I don't know. >> See, they look horrible. >> Oh, the worst thing that happened to me. I don't know where to go now. What do you want to know? >> So, what years did you live out in Vegas? No. >> Um, I did 25 years out there. 934 and I left to come out here um to get my son. He's having trouble in school and uh he not troubled trouble. He just couldn't learn very well out there and they didn't have special education out there. My dad said, "Come on out here and live with me." And we'll enroll them in um Worththington. They have a special course for kids that aren't going well. And so I moved out here. And that's when I was out here. I don't know what year that was. Um something that was just a few years ago. It was probably he was a freshman in high school. So he would have graduated this year or four years ago. I think he was in ninth grade. And we uh Emily and Emily and I met um via the internet and we started dating and uh it lasted like uh a year. My son didn't make it in the school he was going to and uh I ended up having to move out of the house in um in my dad's time. I was living with my dad and I ended up in a place I could afford cuz I was I was working at the casino and um here in town which is a real crappy bank only a difference I was making really good money out there and so I I had I moved to um the continent and uh it just I just wasn't making enough money so and and Emily and I weren't like living together type relationship. Um, so I took off. I said, "I got to go back to Vegas and try to get my job back." And I went back there and my son got sick and um, I had still been in contact with Emily and I'm like, Emily, Joey's sick like sick sick. He's got and I don't have any insurance cuz I quit my job and when I moved back to Vegas, they didn't give you insurance. It was a long process because of that Obamacare. So, I didn't have any insurance to take care of my kid that had caught schizophrenia. We didn't always then, but he used it. And she said, "Come on back here and marry me. Come on back here, marry me. We'll get him in Westfield." So, I moved back probably July. We got married in August. We both in school. >> Okay. >> And that's how things went and things were really, really great. >> And things were great with you and now. >> Okay. >> If there's no prior record of violence, then why would anyone jump to murder? That's the problem. It doesn't fit the profile. But then again, families say the same thing before a tragic headline proves them wrong. What adds fuel here is the shadow of a prior tragedy of Matthew's own son, just 17 years old, who died by hanging in the woods in 2019. And a year later, Emily Noble's body would be found in the woods, also by hanging. The similarity was eerie and the human mind can't help but look for patterns. People started saying, "Did grief turn into anger? Did Emily, who may not have fully understood or comforted him in the way he needed, become the target of misplaced rage?" >> Now, we all have some issues with our wives. He and I have both been married once before and divorced. Okay. Um, we all know how marriages are. So, there's ups and downs. What were the downs? Um, I lost lost my sex drive after my kid died or not and there was an issue with that. >> There was never any, she really was really great with the house. She was really meticulous and I liked it. She reminded me of my mother when it came to taking care of a home. And so she would tell me to wash this and do that and I really dug it. just come. >> Did you read our text? >> Well, we have everything. There's there's >> there might be some old text from like whatever, but it was after my son died, there was tension, stress. >> She dealt with it differently than I did and and so there was things that were said back and forth. But this the whole Corona thing really. Yeah. We need each other. Let's do this thing. Guys, I did not hurt my wife. I did not hurt anybody. I loved her. >> When you talk about someone who's supposedly just missing, you use is, not was. And he doesn't know this, but that choice of words will become a weapon against him. >> Was there a times when she would kind of say, you know, I'm not afraid to die this thing. I mean, don't they all kind of be like that? You know, sort of nothing that I would ever call anybody. My wife's going to hurt herself. And >> why why would you think she would hurt herself? I mean possibility >> because she was not not that she ever would. I'm just saying she she was emotional. She would get emotional. She was very unemotional person and she would say things like and then when Joseph died, it was like this thing where she would be like, "Well, if I if I was I would do it if I needed to do it, you know, or [ __ ] like that." You like, you know, >> would it surprise you if I said that she didn't seem to be as happy as as you were led to believe? Of course, >> it wouldn't surprise you. >> It wouldn't surprise me. She was sadder than I thought she looked. >> Um, as far as your relationship, >> no, she she loved me. I would be very surprised if there was like a >> Every time he says she loved me, the past tense digs his hole deeper. Jurors don't forget words like that. It doesn't sound like someone waiting for his wife to come home. It sounds like someone already mourning or worse someone admitting >> saying that but you know literally two weeks ago she there was one person that she kind of confided in through text messages and so forth >> said something >> and she said that you she said Matt picked another fight with me last night. This was two weeks ago you know and then they kind of go on and talk about it a little bit. Um early May early May we're talking this month. Matt and I are talking and friendly, but it's not the kind of relationship I want. In April, a month ago, please don't talk about Matt and I in love. She said, "Same day. He hasn't been the same since Joe, which I understand that's not a criticism. I completely get that servant." >> And at the same time, she said, "I think Matt is mentally ill." And then the same day we aren't talking. Reference your relationship. We're not talking this month. She said we're not talking. And um she said I don't want to talk about him. I'd rather focus on the future. By the way, Mac got really drunk last night. This was February. By the way, Mac got really drunk last night. Said some things I don't think he can take back. I'm fine. I'm pretty sure we are not going to stay together. I mean I mean we would argue about things but I don't I didn't think that it was that >> what was it that you said she was >> and she focused on one thing here Matt picked a fight again this is April this is barely a month accused me of picking fights >> okay but this was this was a month ago okay this is this is heavy >> Matt picked a fight with me yesterday and said some awful things I'm not wearing my wedding ring. >> A person's texts are their raw diary. Emily's weren't neutral. They shifted the spotlight and turned what might have been seen as an accident into something darker. Quick heads up, there's a full collection of true crime inspired merch available now at strangerabel.com. You'll find premium t-shirts, hoodies, hats, beanies, and more. Each piece designed with bold detail and a dark investigative edge. Head over to strangerlabel.com and check out the full lineup. Now, let's get back to the case. >> That doesn't sound like somebody who's in a happy relationship. I thought my wife texted that to somebody a month ago. >> I I I get it. I I I don't I'm not going to say that that those things. Of course, there was a roller coaster relationship, but it wasn't like anything that was anything you would think that someone would hurt someone for. It just would >> I'm not I'm just addressing the fact that you you just told me that the last 6 months have been blasting me. >> Not Yes. >> Okay. >> There have been levels of that and you can check the other texts and they are super I love you. I'm going to >> It's very much a up and down relation that that would go away. That would really go away. It would last for a night. >> Will you Will you acknowledge that that's some pretty heavy [ __ ] when your wife said took up my wedding ring? I don't think we're going to stay together. >> It's not as heavy as you think it is. >> You don't think that? You don't think? >> No, you might think it is, but it's not. She would be like that at times because of her anger issues. It always swung back. We were always It just It wasn't >> Well, why would you have said that whenever they asked how your relationship I mean >> I didn't even remember that because it's not in my mindset. The good times have been so good. >> Okay. But those but you know >> you guys are really going to try to >> I'm not trying to do anything. I'm I'm reading your wife's words. I understand that. I understand that. >> Just Just let me I'm not saying anything. I'm I'm saying when you come in and say, "We had a great relationship, told officer Hollis, we had a great marriage, no problems whatsoever." And then I read this, it's going back 6 months, and you text her on New Year's Eve and say, "If you want a divorce, we're going to move out." Fine. I mean, these are all things I just printed off, which yeah, very they aren't the usual fight like I'm pissed at you. [ __ ] off. I don't want to talk to you tonight. Just leave me for um It's go golfing cuz I don't want to see you right now. I want to be alone. fast. >> Okay. >> You know, >> well, you think that's pretty that's >> it's not isn't as heavy as you think it is. You from out looking at it from the outside, I can see why someone would think that, but it's not. It's just the level of anger from I'm not going to say it's her fault. I have my issues with my son. I would get angry, too. We would fall back in love the next day. It was just the things that we would do. And it wasn't I'm one and when you say, "Hey, how was the last 6 months?" The last 6 months have been really nice, man. I mean, was there a time we had a night where I said some bad things and she took the wedding ring off? How long ago was that? I mean, >> a month. Look, it it happened, but I mean, I'm not going to I don't I don't I don't I don't know how to explain to you. >> Do Do you remember that happening though? >> I remember her um I think taking her wedding ring out, but it wasn't didn't last. But this this thing has gone on forever. >> When was the last argument you and her got into? Screaming match. >> There was never really a screaming match. It was more of just >> when when was the last argument slash loud conver? >> I couldn't. I couldn't tell you. I was guessing >> because your neighbors are out there saying it was in the last two weeks. >> Would that be correct? >> I don't know. And there there's screaming. We were screaming at each other. I they were saying that we were screaming at each other just that they could hear. I I don't know. We weren't. Was there might have been a loud whatever disagreement. >> He denies ever having loud conversations with Emily, but neighbors remember hearing arguments. And if the neighbors could hear them through their own walls, they weren't whispers. Add that to his history. Back in 2001, his ex-wife claimed he choked her while she was pregnant. She insists it was the only time he laid hands on her, but once is enough to plant the seed that violence wasn't out of character. >> Like she was saying that to her friend. I mean, that's surprising to me cuz I wasn't like, you know, I mean, at times you would say, "I don't want to be married to anymore." But that doesn't go down the lines that I'm sitting in a police station right now being a being being like he's going after me. We just haven't. >> Trust me as a man to man that what was going on there was nothing out of there was nothing to be worried about. There wasn't anything. >> So can I change course now? >> So it was officer Hollis. I keep want to think it's officer Hollis came out on Monday to take the for correct now. and you know the phone her phone wasn't seized or anything else like that. Were you posting stuff on Facebook from her account using her phone? >> A man whose wife has disappeared should be hyper aware of her phone and her accounts. But when asked if he was the one posting from it, he shrugs it off with, "I don't know. Maybe." It's possible he's in shock, but it doesn't quite come across in the way you'd expect. >> That it was was as serious as it was. It wasn't like it was after the I just showed up. >> It's I just need to know if you did. And there's nothing wrong with it. >> I I don't know. I didn't I don't know, >> Matt. This was 2 days ago. >> You can't remember if you on her phone. Did you Did you Did you think to yourself, And this would make perfect sense to say, "Look, I don't know. I don't know her friends at which we know. So, I'm going to get on. You made the comment. I would like to post things to her account. That's why you wanted her phone back. So, it's been through your mind. It would make perfect sense. I'm going to go on her Facebook account and post. Hey, has anyone seen Emily? This is her husband. I can't find her. She >> I must have. I can't recall, but I must. >> You don't remember that? It was 2 days ago. >> I don't know. I don't know if it was me that I got on. I must have. I >> was someone else using our phone? No. >> So, the phone stayed with at the house the whole time? You didn't like hand it out to a cousin or walking down the street some Joe Stranger or anything else like that? >> No. >> Okay. So, if if anything was posted on her account, have you ever accessed her Facebook from your phone? >> I can't. So, I've never done I can't access I've tried to post stuff onto her page from my phone, but it doesn't like >> But you can't get in as her on her Facebook. >> I can do it from her from her phone. I can do it. Yeah, you know, just get on our phone, go to Facebook, and I'm sure I did. I'm sure I did. I can't say. I definitively did, but I'm sure I got on Facebook. Okay, this I did, didn't I? I did. You guys know I I went on say this is Matt. I'm Emily's husband. She's missing. I must have I had to. I just don't recall right now if I did, but I'm pretty I mean, that would be the move to make. I mean, >> just cuz we asked you a question, it it doesn't mean that we're going at Right. And I'm just I'm just trying to tell you that I if I don't like in my head picture it I don't want to say I did but I mean it would be the mood to make. I mean yeah I I must I've been using my phone her phone my phone her phone for the last what this is Wednesday now. I don't even know what day is anymore. I mean I've been using two phones. So it's it's looking at her friends. >> But you know you can't post from yours. So if you go into her Facebook account it has to be through her phone. >> It has to be her phone. There's no doubt about it. >> Did you use her phone for any other purpose? >> Um like what >> you text a few friends you text some friends of hers or in contact? >> I'm sure I did. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I had to because um I don't have a lot of her friends phone numbers and stuff. So yeah, that's why when I gave the phone you guys, I was like, you need that phone back to contact people. >> Do you think did you make I know you say you don't remember, but did you make a couple posts on her Facebook account? Did you make one? You make five? This is where the case walks a tightroppe. There's no eyewitness, no confession, no physical evidence, no DNA, and no fingerprints that link Matthew to Emily's death. The entire weight of the state's case rests on one question. Do her injuries show strangulation oride by hanging? It all comes down to interpretation. having her. She would say that she's going to do it herself. So, and of course, no one knows anything at this point. I'm just asking for your opinion. So, do you think that she herself? I don't know. I don't just What does your gut say? She hurt that gut. Has she ever going to say to you now on the line? >> She has talked about killing herself before, but not anywhere else. Call the authorities and say you need to save her. If if she were to pay herself, where would she do it? She would do it where where she could easily find. She wouldn't want to cause any [Music] You said she hadn't been easily found. Is it possible that she didn't kill herself? Can you tell me you're the police? I'm not I'm not I just want you to just look at at the entire thing. Just pull yourself out of it. >> Is there a chance that she went out at some point and some of the doctors from Westerville, Ohio put her in the car or what are the odds that happen in Westerville, Ohio? almost zero for zero, >> especially on Memorial Day when everyone's at home. You know, it's a perfect day out. >> So, I'm going to say, was she abducted? Problem? No, I know I did not hurt. I didn't. So, the only other thing that I think of is that she did something. >> And with that, the interview came to a close. What had started as a missing person's report quickly spiraled into a murder investigation when 4 months later in September 2020, Emily's remains were found in a wooded area not far from their home. Her death was ruled a homicide because she had facial and neck fractures consistent with strangulation. >> Hands of your feet. >> You see him good? >> His elbow. I can see him good. Coming up on your left. >> Matt, use your left hand and unlock the door. Only your left hand. Put your hands back on your head. Do not move. >> Yes, sir. >> Stick both your hands out this way, Matt. Both of them straight. >> Seat belts on. Seat belts on. >> That's just listen to what you're being told. >> All right. Take that. Undo your uh seat belt. All right. I got contact. >> See your hands right where they are. >> Coming off. Coming off. >> You got anything on you at all? All right. Step straight out here. Come on. >> Step straight. Is your car in drip park? >> All right. Step on out, man. >> Good, guys. >> All right. We're going to walk over here towards the grass. All right. >> We got a code on our suspect. 936. >> Let's move some of these cars out of the way so we can get everybody out of here. >> But when it came time to put the case before a jury, the story took a very different turn. US law requires the state to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. If even one reasonable alternative explanation exists, like an accident or self harm, the jury must acquit. In less than 3 hours of deliberation, they decided the evidence didn't meet that bar. So, Matthew was finally acquitted on August 26th, 2022. Many people still believe he's guilty, especially because staging suicide is a known tactic in domestic cases. 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