[Music] welcome to facts or frauds you go right there we having it Court does call thee people state of Michigan versus Thomas styron the second afternoon sir state your name please I'm all right this date time set for preliminary examination styren you are here representing yourself I would indicate to you that there are three charges on the complaint in this case the first charge is that of fleing a police officer under motor vehicle code in the third degree that is a felony punishable by up to 5 years and a $1,000 fine plus court cost count two on the complaint alleges assaulting resisting and obstructing a police officer that is a felony punishable or high court Mr punishable by after to two years incarceration Andor $2,000 fine plus court cost count three is a charge of driving o license suspended denied and or revoked that is a misdemeanor punishable by up to 93 days in jail or $500 fine plus court cost the subject matter of this preliminary examination is for the people to establish my probable cause that the felonies have been committed if the people do establish that then what the you would be what's called bound over to stand trial in the circuit court you are here appearing without councel I would advise you that if you wish to represent or be represented by Council you can let the court know and the court would make sure that Council would be available to you to in this proceeding I would also indicate that if you are desirous of continuing to represent yourself you certainly have an absolute constitutional right to do so you will be held to the same standard that attorneys are held to regarding the court rules regarding uh the presentation of evidence and anything else along those lines as well as questioning of the witnesses do you understand all of that sir I understand everything pardon understand everything okay and sir do you still wish to proceed unrepresented very good do you have any questions before we begin the preliminary examination do I haven't had a chance to to look at the body Cam and evidence uh I just got a kite back yesterday telling me I could ask new staff to to be able to view this I've got maybe 45 minut minutes or an hour's worth of time in it so far able to get through the first 45 minutes an hour into what to I think there's 16 videos on the on the thumb drive and I think officer hooks is an hour and 15 minutes long in itself so what I'm saying is I've had insufficient time evidence to even review it a to articulate excuse youor I understand that the APA that was present before me had intended to admit that the body camera I will not be using any of it today I'll be proceeding with just Sergeant H's testimony um I guess the and I understand that Miss I guess the only question would be if whether or not something contained on the body cam might lead to evidence that the defendant either would want to present or Le to evidence that the defendant may wish to question the deputy on um and I'm going to have no way of knowing that um I appreciate that your honor especially because um my office previously put on the record and I'll reiterate today we do plan on adding additional charges account of fonus assault which assault with a dangerous weapon against the sergeant and two counts of felony firearm which are mandatory to years in prison so your honor I don't have a problem if we need to adjourn this SCM to have more time with the video okay and under those circumstances and I forgot I think you had mentioned that before that um with that um okay so Mr siren you're requesting an adjournment of the proceeding so you can get through that is that okay um how far and I guess I was unclear you were you you have access to the yes I do it's in my proud okay and but then you were talking about you got through some of it the first video and and I believe it's a YouTube not YouTube but a Facebook video of of a bystander say say that again Facebook video that somebody took okay and part of his body maybe 20 minutes half hours worth when you're saying his you're officer hooks yes I believe his his body cam footage is an hour 15 minutes its totality so I've barely been able to scratch the surface on there okay let me ask you go ahead were you going to say something else there and like I said I believe there's 16 15 or 16 videos in there total maybe maybe more and that's just what I was able to see okay so let me ask you this how how are you arranging to view that video originally I was titing everybody I could I was Correctional Services this sergeant that Sergeant finally um while down in Correctional Services I was able to speak with Sergeant Flint okay he was able to arrange this first meeting and like I said I got a cut back from him yesterday yesterday telling me just the to bother the noon staff and they'll arrange it during the the noon noon shift so gotcha previous prior to yesterday I didn't I was still asking I guess I was asking the wrong shift I was asking later in a day that that's for certain and I really was never able to get anything else arranged as far as being able to go and view it okay so you were trying to do it one way that wasn't happening you finally got to Flint and he indicated to you that it's a noon staff you're supposed to bother to try to okay Flint's definitely provided Direction in regards to how I can go about get this all right okay so we'll need to then adjourn that um have you well I'm going to ask it one or two ways how long do you think it'll take you to get through it I mean is it your and I won't hold you directly to it but I mean would you be able to do it in one day if you had access to it or is it going to take you a few days or just your best guesses cuz you know how long the clips are I don't have any idea by Design I I only have knowledge of how long his particular video is Officer Hoops I don't the other ones I I haven't looked at viewed can't remember how big the file is nothing like that if I was out in the world I could probably have this done within a week have my house I have my own computer and I plan on originally being able to do this um um also depends on the jail they've been sold short staff we've been locked down a lot as well so it depends on what their Staffing numbers is during it when I'm asking to try to arrange this it there there's so many variables it'd be hard for me to give you no no that's that's fair that's fair and then also but you don't know total you don't know total time how much there is you just know that one since since May I've been fighting illness that just recently they the the jails addressed uh so so many things going on I've been since May I've been having U stomach issues B issues and on Friday or Saturday I was urinating blood finally I was able to get some some uh the medical staff to to do something with that as far as me urinating the cup and then give me some type of antibiotics but all they can tell me is I have an infection they just don't know specifically what type of infection so I'm also deal with that and very lethargic okay I got you energy in that what do we as well what do we look like on six well we've got stuff it's a day like today I got stuff in the morning but then but six so far two and then I got that at one but if I set this at one the expungement should set this at two there no exps actually got it okay okay so that we hopefully won't run into this again you've gotten all of the discovery pardon me you got all of the discovery like you got the as far as you know you got the police report you have all that it's the video all right so what I will do is I will adjourn the U preliminary examination in this matter I would go to the 30th but I think I'll go to August 6 2024 at one I'm going to set it at 100m we'll just push everything else out of the way and that way we'll be here so that'll give you 3 weeks to try to get through that now if you if there are issues like what you you're talking about short staff whatever and you haven't been able to get through everything um talk to one of the deputies so that they can get in contact with my office so that if we had to push it out another week we can just get that done without you coming up here telling me you're not ready know fair enough okay got a question regards to is there any reason why that would be preferred instead of me being able to address what I got going on internally at a hospital outside in the world I guess me being put on bonds so I can take care of my illness as well as look at this uh Discovery and handle thata done in a more timely manner less VAR variables involved I'm not available before then anyway so I'm very happy to come back in 3 weeks once he's had the opportunity to review it in the jail and yes as your honor is well aware if this gentleman's aliens were to the level that he needed to be hospitalized hospitalize him Additionally the jail would notify their chain of command if there were any needs that exceed the Jail's current ability to assist him I've received no the jail to that effect tells me it's not happening meaning that the jail is the appropriate place for him also your honor I will as the court notes the defendant is in custody without bond uh for the defendant's demeanor in this courtroom at the time that my office charged this case requested a $50,000 cash charity bond this is a person who while possessing a firearm threatened to cook the sergeant which is one of the reasons that I'm any against him additionally honor this case originally came in as a domestic violence call and Sergeant help took the opportunity to try to protect the community by proceeding after this defendant in a manner to not only protect one individual woman but to protect our community and it resulted in this person possessing a firearm and not only threatening the sergeant but threatening the Sergeant's dog as well iut with that is when I said cook I made it very clear said meant legally hit courts which he iterated on his body cam so according to the body cam video he is fully aware that I meant legally through the court process and also I believe in the police report you sit there for a welfare check with a possible rolling domestic which L me being pulled over me being a single person in my van not two people which would be involved in domestic imagine and then once pulled over Prett sure he knew I was looking for just based on my description based on who was looking up in his uh Talent or or system whatever it is they use in the police cruiser make sure they that I plan to use the legal system to address any uh transgressions or trespasses I felt was made against me all right um sorry goad um also I was the one who stayed on top of these charges I'm the one who called the court every day stayed on top of this case and I'm the one who arranged the the court date with Miss SP I was the one who stay who called the court week after week and they didn't have my case in and finally they did I was very proactive in trying to get this addressed through the for system had no intention to running or trying to avoid it at all I think my acction would sued such okay um in this matter I I'm not going to at this point change your bond Mr SAR and I'll just put it to you this way I don't know the facts of the case by Design I don't so I'm going to certainly I hear the allegations I hear your response to the allegations and at some point I'll see the evidence um in terms of um what I had previously heard in regard to this case I would consider your actions on that date at least um as I understand them to be at this time that you pose a significant risk um to the public and to Public Safety by your conducts that day okay I'm not sure about the comment we'll deal with that um further as the prosecutor indicated your demeanor in the courtroom prior to today um leads the court to question whether or not releasing you I could trust you to do what I ask you to do um this is the first time today as we were talking to each other going through the things that it's been a civil conversation with you to try to resolve the things all I'm trying to do is get the case through I don't know why the other days you made a determination to try to act a particular way to the court because I'm just like I said I'm just here trying to get the case heard and get everything done and so I I have based upon what I hear regarding the case what I also have seen in terms of your Deb in the courtroom um I have great reluctance in terms of doing that what I will tell you is this is is that I certainly will address so I'm going to deny your request to the extent it was a request to change your bond in this case at this time um certainly um hopefully we'll be able to go fourth on the sixth and I certainly will relook at everything on the six and you could raise the issue again but I want you to understand that part of it is because of what the allegations here are and I'm not saying you're guilty of them I'm not saying any of that but in terms of the allegations and what could be in his from his Court's perspective a situation where you may pose a risk to the community but also a lot of it is of your own doing and terms of your what happened here okay and so all of that I have to take into and can take into consideration but like I said In fairness to you on the six BEC because today was at 180 degrees from before and so I will now factor that in and on the six Sur I will take a look at anything you just rais begin before the court okay and and I would agree just real quick and I would agree with what Miss Hughes has said and that is is that if your medical were to an extent our jail is excellent I have to say the sheriff's office is extraordinary in making sure that people get the medical care that they need but certainly you would have to apprise them of that and I think maybe you have and they will make sure that you're taking care I just don't have a doubt in my mind and have never had an issue with an in make getting the the care that they need so all right two uh two things um four times we've been a journey because I asked to represent myself I don't believe my demeanor played any roles in that I thought it was because there was some misunderstanding as far as the courts trying to represent himself oh no in regards I reported this in May July before ever followed up on okay i' suggest that you send another request regarding the medical issue and Mr sren I would also suggest to you it never is an issue I've had two others come through representing themselves that is never an issue with me because you have a right to do that and I'm just going to let you know that is not the reason you need to go back and you need to look at what you were doing in this courtroom or this court for reasons I don't even Mr siren understand so I'm not here to debate that with you I'm just telling you that's where it was what I was saying was maybe I was misunderstood that when we went to proceed with the court proceedings there was some misunderstanding in regards to the public defender office representing me versus me representing myself since there was that misunderstanding it was adjourned I believe four or four times over those matters wasn't because uh I was acted op I believe I came and went so fast wasn't even no there were a couple of determents because of that but um but that was because you needed there was assistance you needed in regard to what we were dealing with at a particular given moment and then and so that's where the PD was standing in but no it was your behavior on the date that I revoked your bond and then the other dates were trying to make sure of that and I was just be honest with you Mr Tyron I was I wanted to make sure that you truly wanted to represent yourself and that your rights were protected with having the PD here and until I was clear on that I wasn't going to let things proceed because well I'll just put it to you bluntly you got a hot head sometimes and I wanted to make sure you weren't making that decision just because and not fully under understanding what this was because these are serious charges and potentially more that are coming that that's my whole thing on that okay I appreciate all right one last question if if we're about to be done in order to get a hold of your office I can use the channel of the jail not the mail system because I don't I don't have envelopes to pass information or anything that I the jail is my Channel that I go through to to contact you and and inform you certain things VI whether it's back or I'm not well or in regards to me need more time I think you would have to send some type of communication written communication to my office I don't think there's a direct line and I'm not even sure how that works because I usually don't have inmates contacting my Chambers directly um sometimes they will mail things which seems to me to not be it do you oh there he is so he'll figure that out he'll let you know how to get a communication up to my office okay and not whether or not I can do anything about it I don't know so when that happens so that you understand Mr Sten whatever you send to me that I'm going to review needs to also go to the other side but what I will do to try to make things easier if this is okay with the people is that once it comes to me I will make sure that whatever you're sending to me they're going to get a copy that works thank you all right envelopes are a dollar and I have no money in my account so it' be it'd be very burdensome to try and buy envelopes everybody they're a dollar seriously down there I got about $500 in back I'm just saying if I can sell her for a dollar I just take the whole box down anyway okay so we we sorted that out make sure to get with them they'll get they'll make sure it gets up to us perfect than okay Mr siren I appreciate you behaving yourself this way because just listen because you're coming in hot like you did before I'm just G to let you know with me or any other Jud that's a battle you're going to lose every time I can appreciate that and my only response to that is I've never had never had all the other judges whether miss miss me miss SP was able to have a conversation after the the court time she's nicer she's nicer than I am she's a very nice woman that's for sure and she she's much nicer than I am and so she she has patience sometimes I don't fair enough so you got to take it as it is all right have you do the same now I'm no librarian in fact I don't know what star sign I am but as a famous person once said you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time and as I another more famous person what said if you don't teach them to read you can fo fool them whenever you like and thanks for hanging out with some faxer frauds make sure you hit the Thumbs Up Button you're subscribed and ring that Bell also leave a comment 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