well Elizabeth right was kind of shocking right I was just joking we were just joking like how she wish she kind of would die you know what I mean I like so so I'll help you I just go like this you know I mean like push forward and up at the same time right and she kind of just like waged my hands and like started flipping out and stuff like that to the point where I had to just like grab her and I just would lean forward and just press this man didn't just confess to one murder but casually revealed a spree of Horrors starts tortur her three days first two were more thieves this is the interrogation of Shawn great a narcissist a master manipulator a coldblooded serial killer and a monster 911 what is the address to your emergency and that's when I tried to push him off and and he was like 10 times stronger warning what you are about to hear is every human's worst nightmare especially for women imagine your worst nightmare narrated to you by the monster who caused it that's what this case would feel like first I tried you know like scratching him and like you know punching him in you know his private car everything I did he get backed me like a 100 times worse care about abducting somebody means that you care about her yeah in this situation if you think you've seen or heard at all you haven't if you're someone who feels deeply it'd probably be best to stop here abducted you DAV L you are Sean Sean great You by a different name I know what's your poer name is it Sean is your proper name yes okay Sean well listen man we need to talk happen this morning cuz she's shook up she's pretty shook up yeah so you tell me where you want to start I mean I do met her well we started really they got right out of bed and I've been having to pee for a while who got you right out of bed the cops and stuff okay and I'm been sitting in the vehicle uh we wonder if I can use restroom you want to go to the bathroom sure we'll take you to the bathroom real quick if uh did they search you no what nothing okay just hold on just actually I was naked that's why I was naked oh they put the shorts on you they put the shorts on me so that's probably why I so yeah I've been searched on this side all right SE come okay at this exact moment the only Survivor of Shawn Great's cruelty relives the nightmare she barely escaped the 911 call she made is one of the most harrowing you'll ever hear 911 what is the address to your emergency I Street laund what is it or Street laund man problemed abducted you John dream it all started with a victim's bravery exposing a killer hiding in plain sights in today's Digital World protecting your online privacy is essential whether streaming shows or handling sensitive work staying secure is crucial that's why I rely on Express VPN today's sponsor and one of the top vpns out there trusted by millions I've used expressvpn long before they reached out and it's my go-to tool for keeping my online activity private whether traveling or working remotely 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something to you yeah cuz he had me tied [Music] up are you tied up now well I yeah but I kind of freed myself is it his phone you have yes way we have officers were sending please not okay if if you're worried you don't have to talk and just set the phone down okay I just need to hear if the officer find you or not are you upstairs or are you downstairs are downstairs do you know where he [Music] live oh [Music] [ __ ] oh [ __ ] I woke him up I shut the phone down are you still there longer whater do you hear any officers outside no okay they're in the area here where' they go is there a window there yeah I'm looking out and they tell them to come back she said hurry hurry she said to hurry up and come back come on hurry up Hur up get the police not only rescued her but they would also discover two decomposed bodies inside the home where is [Music] Heep okay they have [Music] her in one room a woman would fight to remember how she escaped a nightmare and another the man who created that nightmare would sit feeling proud of the devastation he's caused let's break down each question and the contrasting responses from the Survivor Jane Doe and the killer Shawn great my name is David and I'm a c here now are you okay have you been injured at all and I'm asking this for a medical attention purposes I'm just glad that she's okay yeah she's okay I mean she's mentally you know she's a little messed up physically she's injured I mean you know you've got the cut on your hand every once time well she's got some bruises on her arms too where where did you TI these straps her to her arms to her body maybe we at point to your body where you tied straps well I do put this arm up through here right you put her arm under there yeah put my her arm under her leg mhm and then tie it on her wrist to here with one of the straps describe the strap what what kind of strap was it is it like a tie down or is it just a oh elastic what is it scarf it's a scarf probably oh so it's a piece of clothing you use any other pieces of clothing what was around shirt your shirts her shirts I didn't use no shirt I might have used shirt what else was around that you used shirts scarves anything else so you tie her arm under her leg why that position one TI she's unable to move [Music] is she tied down to the mattress from the other side despite the trauma her demeanor reflects the survival Instinct of someone recounting a harrowing experience her answers are straightforward yet there's an undercurrent of vulnerability as she processes the events in real time Shawn on the other hand has an emotionless detached response he shows little to no remorse when talking about the physical harm he inflicted you how this happened how it started well I met a month and a half ago or maybe 2 months ago and you know through the crack shter okay we would eat lunches there and I didn't really like him I mean but he's a nice guy and people would say he's a nice guy M and you know and we'd play tennis together and we'd go walking together there but you know I would never let him in my apartment I would never go like to or even if he needed something I'd went outside you know but you telling me about where how you met C there how long ago about 2 months ago okay what were you doing there they do is serve lunch every day Monday through Friday m i met her there um about two months ago but when I first got Dash where you from um came from Manfield okay issue there R just hetic why you ran from about court over there so you were living there on cover since you've been here uh maybe a l more but you you've been living there in cobt is that the yeah yeah where you we're at this morning okay whose house is it I'm not too sure so you just like squatting in there yeah okay good right I appreciate your honesty okay this is kind of the the steps that we need to take here you know you're being honest with me now keep up de honesty and everything's going to go all right this house how did they get in well he said well except for since he abducted me before that he told me you know that he had an agreement with the landlord that if he fixed up the place then he could live there in fact that's why even before he was trying to get me to help him fix up the place but you know no that just wasn't you know but then like after he adopted me that's when he told me he he know this place was abandoned and he broke into it he is downplaying his role in the abduction portraying himself as someone simply offering help or acting out of necessity showing his manipulative nature all right you end up with today well we been talking about miration and stuff like that getting really close Okay we both maybe getting cold feet I'm not too sure but yeah I pour it like feel cold feet from her you know what I mean like should push me away we get things back all right and then it's like a cold feet in the air like like complications again so many complications and then she talked about this guy named Daniel and lost it when when was she talking about the guy named Daniel that's about 5 years old over like a 5year past relationship that she had yeah she's like oh I'm going to wait for Daniel like like she's just going to like pass like say all that she's been saying and then out of the blue just bring up another guy just try to meet me back away or something I'm not too sure what she was thinking she's in doubt about marrying me pretty much now describe how you aced I don't know just slow like yesterday like you know cuz we were going to read the Bible and he's like well and I want to read it outside and he's just like well the wind and I mean not yesterday today's Tuesday it was Sunday um and so you know so that's why I was in his place I me you know it's just slowly just think you could trust the guy after you know knowing him like just about every day for almost two months even though no that really always stupid never know person Sea's perspective on his own actions is chillingly detached He suggests that Jane wanted to stay with him or that she wasn't as much of a victim as the authorities would claim his narrative is self-serving portraying himself as the one in control without acknowledging the Horrors he inflicted have you been with her like today how long has she been in that house with you 24 hours okay where did you meet her to bring her back to the house her place where do she live Liv in Ed mil department at Bal right off Maine down past the bridge little there a church over there oh whole bro Stony Creek the apartment back in there I think those are might be St Creek yeah I think that's what you're talking about so how did you get there I mean just how do you get there to her apartment okay and then you take her where walk around went back to where I was staying okay they ping around a little bit and then things got carried away explain carried away um like no don't you know what I mean we we're not ready for that we we we de we de with that before she saying yeah now what's she meaning when she saying that what when she say no what's she talking about oh she didn't say no she all stop it you know we we're we don't do this we don't P around because wa marriage you don't pull around you talking intercourse anything anything okay all right kissing or anything I just like do tap on the back you know conversations we have like know always like nice conversation and stuff so do you guys have sex yeah we end up having sex asked her will well it ended up she didn't like it and she's really beating herself up about it SE part MH so it looks like rap what day did this happen I mean from that night to like till he fell asleep yesterday I mean and not constantly like maybe seven times or something Jane do hesitates at first clearly uncomfortable but answering honestly she speaks about her ordeal without sensationalizing it when asked about sexual abuse or assault Shawn remains cold and calculated frequently denying or minimizing his actions if he does admit to certain acts it's done with little emotional reflection or recognition of the harm he's caused physical injuries I see you've got a busted lip what's that from from him how did he do that he he's punched you there's a bruise here on your left arm is that from him how did that happen struggled with him I'm sorry I struggled with him okay you might have hit her a couple times times I did cuz I lost control I do well let's let's explore that okay okay why did you lose control um a lot of it that she marry me and marry me she won't marry me you know it's like this is it mhm a lot of leading you know mhm yeah I didn't just that ha so maybe snap or out my character where'd you hit her yeah she's got a fat lip yeah that's where I got that from from punching her like her tooth oh at to got me okay yeah her tooth had to got me so when when did this happen about 24 hours ago okay and you in the middle of sex when you punched her well sex with their fight and everything we made have made sex after you pster yeah while Jane Doe's responses show her quest for survival Great's responses reflect a dangerous blend of Detachment narcissism and sadistic pleasure which would eventually lead to his conviction I mean she's saying that she didn't want to have sex and that you punched her she may not have wanted to have sex like afterwards after what after I hit her how many times did you have sex um I end up being a few times within 24 hours mhm yeah I mean I don't think now she's saying that she's been with you since Sunday do you know what today is Monday today's Tuesday okay today Tuesday if you thought it was Sunday evening okay so we're talking over 24 hours Sunday you've done with evening yeah times since I've been to sleep so you've got you've been weather since Sunday evening yeah Sunday evening okay can you tie down a time when you guys got together 6:00 probably in the evening okay go straight to the apartment um she's saying you tied her down to a bed I mean what's the deal with all the straps on the mattresses I did tie her down I abducted her you abduct her yes explain that her gamees trying to get down to if she's going to marry me or not so you just held her there because you wanted to find out if she was going to marry a lot of questions and stuff and yeah it's very nightmare could imagine her you just wanted to make sure she didn't get away cuz you wanted her no what explain exp her to relax spend some time with me it's kind of hard for somebody to relax if you're tying them down don't you think yeah what did he do well you know so I was reading the Bible and I don't know if I like just wanted to leave or like what happened but like all of a sudden and that's when he got like really aggressive and he's like you're not going anywhere and you know and at first I thought you know he was joking or something and I was just like oh this is out of line and that's when I tried to push him off and then he was like 10 times stronger and everything I did like I mean at first I tried you know like scratching him and like you know punching him and you know his private part everything I did he backed me like 100 times worse so I think that's like the majority of like a lot of it and well anytime like I would start you know he would see me starting to resist that's when he would like hit me in the head you know just to get me I'm like well she tied down not how'd she get out or out from the ties and tier like like last night I just I F her legs down just a little bit so you've tied her down at least twice yeah just like just slower down because she's moving around a lot like just I'm going take you home here well how many times did you have sex with her when you tied her down I never had say tied down now she's telling us something different I mean I never tied down though when I had sex with her momently she was untied okay while Jane Doe trembled in fear trying to make sense of the terror she just survived sha great sat calmly almost indifferent to the horrors he had inflicted and where where's this place at that she was tied down these couple times from the mattress where's the mattress that in the house in the bedroom where's the bedroom in the house bathroom kitchen bedroom is it first floor or second floor first floor okay you guys did you go everywhere in the house have you been everywhere in the house upstairs little bit well it's hard to get in it's like locked upstairs hard to get in but you did get in yeah I got in how'd you get in it was um well I wgg the lock it took a long time wgg on the lock and up is that the same way you got in the house in the first place I broke the side window out and then went into the window I locked the door went in okay side windows on the door or in the house it's side door window okay all right so I didn't have sex with okay well that's you know I'm glad you're you're telling me but you still did I mean you told me you abducted her what does that mean to you care about abducting somebody means that you care about her yeah in this situation get her out of her apartment why do you have to get her out of her apartment she stay in does she live with anybody she stays in and hides gu in the Bible all the time are you religious yeah I believe in Jesus Christ died for us sin so she's pretty religious how many times you think you had sex with her her may seem like a lot but it lasted a long time did you ejaculate the sight of her no did you use any condoms where did you ejaculate came Sean here isn't just admitting guilt he is reliving the acts step by step well when she gets there Sunday evening at what point do you initially tie her up when she wants to leave at what point does she want to leave and you tie her up I didn't tie her up at all she just stood there with me on Sunday okay but at some point you said she wanted to leave and you had to stop her from leaving when did that happen yeah but I didn't TI up I just F her asked her like just for us to hold each other Helder what describe the holder she lay down hold each other you mean hold her down on the mattress chest right on my she's put her head on my chest and sit L there I mean she might not she might have probably been unwilling to do that why just wanted to hold her okay you wanted to hold her but she didn't want to be held is that what you're saying she wanted to be no that's not what you just said you said but she couldn't let but she she wanted it you think she wanted it she's told you she didn't want it you admitted earlier she said she didn't want to have sex she said it's not right okay but that's telling you she doesn't want to have it right yes okay it's not right but you didn't want to let her go so you just hold her when you say hold her you're hugging her actually I didn't even do that just sit down see you're kind of all over the board your dude I mean you told me that you held her I mean I never held her and like restrained her at some point you did well at that point at that first initia okay at the very first time just stay here relax you I did joke about abduction and then it end up being abducted how do you how do you joke about it first I should I should Abu you keep you just stay with me for a few days and then it ended up happening that way as you'll soon notice the main question in this case would be what does it take to uncover the truth from someone so detached from Humanity TR guys are saying you know Elizabeth this is the exact moment when an admission for one crime snowballs into a series of horrifying Revelations um met her one time outside I guess I did her well I talked to a lot a few people out there but that was just like a moment um play some bad Mitten Lan I say B Elizabeth come outside talk to us describe Elizabeth um Elizabeth she has like blonde hair big blond hair big girl okay do you know her last name no Griffith sound fam here when did you see her when did you meet her oh she was been two months ago when I first seen like seen her at talking to her at the yard playing bad M with Lori mhm and they bat in again I just seen her come go in and come in talk to neighbor did you ever hook up with her do you ever try to no don't like that not like that how oh I don't see her like that open up with her how do you see her just trying to find her way I what do you mean I mean just trying to I don't know what she talked constantly just for like the 5 minutes while I think that what she talk about uh the uh the men's hospital and stuff that she's dealing with yeah she had some issues she's missing that's what I heard how'd you hear that um through Tracy at the Croc center Tracy M um through La I told you that yeah and her friend that we met the other day who is the friend knows knows cuz she picked us up and gave us a ride yesterday okay what did say about isabeth just don't know don't know what she's thinking that she was at the MD the hospital somewhere M well usually if that's the case they we can find that out for easy so I I mean see we don't think she's at the mdal hospital if you know where she's that or if you had any contact with her you know keeping along the same lines of being honest this is when you need to tell me yeah so when it's nice have you get contact with her I had no contact with her cuz it kind of makes me wonder if since talked about her and you've talked about her if you haven't seen her since you've been missing kind of makes me wonder if you didn't have something to do with her being missing I understand situation yeah I mean it kind of looks funny looks strange there are three main aspects of Shawn's personality narcissism manipulation and sexual sadism manipulators like Shawn often present themselves as charming and trustworthy initially gaining their victim's confidence they exploit vulnerabilities making their targets feel indebted or reliant on them what is she I mean you know what's going on no I really don't I'm hoping you can help me because if if there's any kind of connection you know with you Elizabeth it's it's very important that we find Elizabeth cuz she's got some psychological issues she's got some health issues some medical issues oh yeah so I mean if you were to know where she was and we could find her that would go a long way to help them sha initially appears Cooperative but he'd soon end up revealing something that detectives weren't even investigating yeah I help I don't know what to say right now well I mean you can go by you can start by just continuing to be honest I mean you know you told me that two different people well I know they're two different people but the circumstances are kind of the same so how do you so how do you what you did think what do you think should happen to you put by key what she a would forgive me well you know forgiveness is big part of religion that's why I'm saying you know if if you know anything about Elizabeth then it's a perfect time for us to talk about get to the botom of it and see what we can salvage I think I think it's very possible you have something to do with elab you know what we're going to do to day is we got a lot of work to do we'll have to we'll go through that house and we're going to collect some evidence and what I'm afraid is one of the places that we go through today because we'll go through the hessen Clark building because you stayed there we'll look on the railroad tracks cuz you stayed there I'm afraid that we're going to find some evidence related to Elizabeth and if that's the case and you haven't talked to me about it and and been straight up with me it's not going to look good Elizabeth so I want to give you the opportunity before we dig into that to be honest with me about Elizabeth about Elizabeth she's set free no more problems you have to cry no more how'd you set her free she jumped on my back what happened she kept crying to me how she made this world and everything she just died how did you help her do something she couldn't do did you help her kill herself Sean well I try to be encouraging for don't leave people alone just not even worri about talking to nobody you know just isolate yourself for a little while and then whoever gets hold of you see who your true friends are so where's she at Sean she's got a lot of family that's worried about her I'm worried about her okay September 13th 2016 Sean [Applause] the time is 12:34 p.m. all right Sean I've been on the hunt for snacks we got chips here's what I got so far I'm not done you okay we can't find Elizabeth we'll find her but we can't right now I need your help why not okay I need your help I'm not here to judge you I'm not going to leave your side we're going to help it we're going to I'm going to ask you for your help here okay are you hearing me okay are you understanding me when I talk yeah can you help me I know you're just giv me a chance what you're giving me a chance you already know I am yeah you're you're giving me a chance can you take me to her you've already found her I haven't found her no no his chilling demeanor and horrifying confessions during interrogations have made him one of the most disturbing killers in recent memory might not be able to take it to her maybe someone else or others it just matters does how many are there on how much you say many why I don't know there might not be none it raises an important question why would someone reveal so much when they could have stayed silent the answer lies in the theories like narcissism a need for recognition or a twisted sense of relief in reliving the moments of the crime let's talk about the narcissistic side of him other than the time when I left I tied her down I tied her down just a little bit before last night then I fell asleep which is good that's how way I planned it barely Tire up I fall asleep she gets to leave so you planned it that way yeah I wanted her to leave I knew she was going to leave when this morning I knew that she would be able to untie herself I she when he had one strap around her legs that's it so you how long ago did you plan this just happened okay plan but last night when you tied her up the way you planned it you explained that yeah I wanted her to be a to leave I already told her fall asleep just leave you know you talked about you abducted her you've you've had sex with her against her will too yes or no yes I did what do you call that and how many times do you think you her first time I don't know if it was under her after against her will or she was just going with it who you call friend over here I don't know if she'd call you a friend at this point still loves me though I mean honestly she cares for me she wants the best for me that's what's bad about the situation more than anything she still cares I want she cares about me though she want nothing to do with me more but she cares well that's a good thing she has heart narcissists believe they are superior and deserving of control over others for Shawn this entitlement manifested in how he treated his victims as objects for his gratification rather than human beings just her dealing with her loss full mind she's we had she has a lustful mind I mean honestly she battles with all time and her and I her anothers she shelters herself inside because of her lustful mind I I want to help her with that if any way I can before I actually surrender his ability to commit heinous acts and then talk about them without remorse points to a deeply ingrained lack of empathy she she enjoyed it what's that so she enjoyed at other times no because it wasn't against her will the first time may have been the first time may have been against her will well the first time was pretty much so definitely you're telling me the first time was against her will okay good I would say pretty much explain how that happened why do you think that was against her will the first time you had cuz she kept saying no it's not right you know what I mean and and so how did you make it against her will try to kept talking to her talking her into it and like touch your belly like standing up like I was just just trying to give you a hug you know I was trying to talk myself into like to get close to her you know you know it's we got to move Beyond this now let's talk about the final aspect of his personality sexual ssts often extend their victim's suffering to maximize their sense of control and pleasure great repeated offenses suggest he was driven by a compulsion to recreate these scenarios of domination um we can we can make mistakes and we're not going to be defined by that sometimes things just happen sometimes good people do stupid things she's mentioned it about not wanting to be alive before that one time like within 5 minutes unknown or oh my goodness she should have been taking no back or put in some institution a long time ago something special they need a special they almost need a special City for all retards out there colleting the [ __ ] check they're unable to go out and get a work job I to collect their 700 something dollar check so need to get them out of there CU good thing I'm going to jail CU probably about ready to take you know able uncapable waste of lives I hate to say it will you take me there take you to a place to Mansfield where she is where you going take me to Manfield or there's another girl hey are you okay what happened is she gone she been gone no hope okay is anybody I mean has she been buried or she did you just leave her somewhere is she missing you don't know I know I love her okay she lie all the time she's so lost world and she's the one that scratched you like that all right what's her name Candace Candace C call name him somewh else I took her to the woods okay why'd you put her in the woods cuz you're afraid huh were you afraid is that why you put her in the woods I told her I was going to lay her ass down in the woods if you lie to me again so how did you get her there did you just carry her or how did came Hess she G she was staying downstairs stand upstairs I take care of Jim's dog like that who's Jim supervisor he'll do jobs may be my supervisor okay landl I guess so after she passed away how did you get her over to the woods did you carry her did you drag her how how did you do it she was small way for narcissist controlling others reinforces their sense of superiority it is quite clear Shawn derived satisfaction from the power imbalance between himself and his victims after the police searched the house where Jane do was released the cops found decomposing bodies of two more women Stacy Stanley and Elizabeth Griffith let's see exactly how much they really do want to die you know what I mean so a little fearing right yeah she fought it like that's not what you want then she like started blowing up like you strangle her again is that how she died or is there another way that's the way she died that's the way and that's where Candice died 4:30 on four oh on 4:30 I'm sorry and that's the blue the bluish house on 4:30 but You' be witness I mean it don't matter but I mean there's so many people that heard Candace talking about just wishing she had dead tired she has she throws out C out oh feel sorry for me when was at your house over this last weekend did she notice the odor or the this the smell in the house from the bodies did she say anything about what's that smell or anything yeah what did you tell her it was I threw away forgot about okay and when she was there she said she thought she heard a thud upstairs a couple times what what was she hearing I do not know cuz sometimes I'll hear thuds too okay have there ever has there ever been a a girl that you've kept but you did not didn't kill her that you just kept her for a while no no I never aded no one before okay met one Stacy a little bit but how long did you keep Stacy before she I just about an hour just about an hour short time yeah she flipped out acted up so I didn't have a choice you didn't have a choice do you really I mean think about it did you have did you really have a choice whether to kill her or or not rationally looking back at it do you have a choice um oh she knew where you were meaning me she knew and you had already made her give you or like forced that on her so is that what you're meaning let's jump to Elizabeth for a second you did you say you did or did not have sex with Elizabeth no sexual act happened no didn't do nothing did you you didn't feel sexual towards her no all right like let's say Stacy when she's in your apartment is your thought sexual when it turns to violence where does it begin think it starts my violence starts with Lies start okay I just think I've been Li a lot to by women and I can smell a [ __ ] okay afterwards do you do you feel bad do you we talked about some some regret do you feel like what do you feel feel like what have I done SST derive pleasure from the suffering of others in this case Shawn's actions likely involved not just physical violence but a psychological element of domination knowing his victims were aware of their helplessness you said it was the same way is with um the other Candice with Elizabeth is she nude or she in close well she took her shirt off right okay I was just showing her around that she wanted she insisted to look around right okay go upstairs my should upstairs and she just kind of like you know trying to put moves on me which was weird because when talking to her I didn't really feel that yeah yeah did you end up having sex with her no I did not okay didn't do nothing with her at all so what it came to the point that I strugg you know her shirt didn't end coming off okay how did it come off I Mo like choking her you were choking her yeah do you choke her from the front or choke her from behind well it just happened her just reached out and just ched her right you sure is what you want and I mean cuz she thought about like killing herself so I mean I do that was jokes a lot of times like you want friends like guy friends whatever you know what I mean they start talking about killing herself well what you waiting on you know joke around and see whatever you know but now it's to the point it's like okay let's see exactly how much they really do want to die you know what I mean so a little fear in there right yeah she fought it like that's not what you want then she like started blowing up like she took it out of proportion like I was just joking is the wake up strangle strangle like you know what I mean and she got all Ser this what calming her down she just lost it I had pan you panicked then you just did it again another choice to slow like Cal her down I Che just like moving around and stuff like they on the bed like man she wanted to play the innocent thing kind just snapped on play in she come home with me at 11:00 don't even know me I mean kind finally almost sent from God it could be sent from the devil I don't know someone gave up on her Candace Cunningham was Shawn's other victim she lived with him before her disappearance her body was found behind a burned down house in Richland County next was Rebecca Lacy she was found dead March 2015 her death was initially ruled as an overdose but later linked to Shawn who admitted strangling her who was the first one Candice and who is the last one victims yeah so when you say Candice wanted to die do you mean she's pushing you knowing that's what's going to get you and you must want to because you keep pushing me or are you meaning I don't put words in your mouth is that what you're saying yeah she just she aln my butt and with mons Stacy were you feeling she came here she put herself in this position therefore you're going to get what you're going to get it what was that am I wrong or is that how it is the motive is or is or is it more about what it makes you feel I've been thinking about Stacy and why what do you think been busy with everything El Lor took my mind off Stacy motive I mean they're all regrets I'd rather let everybody just live in this world and if they call it hell then that's still fall when you talk to your wife was were you married to Amber or just were you just dating and have a baby together we didn't get married you did are you married now okay Shawn Great's ex-wife Amber Bowman survived Shawn great long before the public knew his name Amber met Shawn when they were young and he initially presented himself as charming and attentive a facade many manipulators used to lure their victims however this charm quickly faded as the relationship progressed revealing a darker side I think now looking back I think I was friends with one of the Sha the other sha I never really knew part that got me was the conclusion he made this statement at the end meet the other me and when I saw that I just got chilled I think most of the women who were with him were very attracted to him and they were kind of hoping maybe something more would develop out of it he was a master manipulator and he knew how to turn on the charm when you told her what you did this was after after marriage after marriage when did you tell her that that you had done any of these situations I think a lot of reason why I told her just because our relationship wasn't she kept keep in hope for us okay you just wanted her to know then yeah that there isn't no hope for us because things that I've done how long ago did you tell her days or weeks might been a year ago okay so are there more that have happened a year ago than what we've already talked about no just I didn't really tell her that I heard something like that but I told her about let's see I here's I told her about there was a guy my mom before and I I took it from him and I beat him senseless to where almost thought I killed him but there was nothing in the newspaper and stuff like that I told her about that inent or almost killed someone not so much that I did you know I didn't break nothing down for her I didn't tell her what I did all right but I just told her that I heard [Music] something I think there's some honor in you talking about what you've talked about to give some families some some peace and I want to tell you that I appreciate that you've given some people some peace now if there's something that happened 6 months ago or a year ago those families are in the same boat they're sitting there wondering about their loved one right is there anything that we can clear up this is all recent stuff okay have no dark nothing nothing beyond that no okay just arguing there's a lot of jokes in the past are you still okay get the closure yeah everything out do you feel better that you've talked to me yeah I appreciate you coming in here not him we were going to get nowhere well sometimes it's it's personalities or if already knows something and you know you don't want to say it but um but he's lying to me too so I you know I don't know what was said cuz I wasn't in here but I'm not saying he was but right cuz he's a straightforward guy lack of information you know something already don't happen and then okay you already know all right hey e that's so you have some nourishment and I'll be back we'll get you some coffee and give me a couple minutes here what we know is that he has a history since he was a young child he was described as just staring at people he has been violent since a very young age violence towards women and this has just escalated over time the traits that I'm seeing are pretty indicative of antisocial personality disorder which is having poor impulse control wanting to be intimidating lack of remorse lack of empathy person gains pleasure from the pain of others so binding them torturing them keeping them hostage she says you took some video of her when you forced her to give her give you from your cell phone yeah the combined antisocial personality disorder with sexual sadism is incredibly dangerous and also nearly impossible to treat with strangling you're looking at Power and control the ability to watch somebody up close see what happens to their eyes and watch them take their last breath is indicative that he enjoys the control that he has over people I think that once he had gotten caught he knew that he couldn't kill anymore and he enjoyed this control and manipulation that he had and so this was one way that he could keep that going I've shocked a lot of people you have yeah first two were more thieves my starts with Live start cace was tortur her three days Shawn was charged with multiple counts including aggravated murder kidnapping and rap his trial included harrowing testimonies and evidence leading to a death sentence and additional prison time Shan great remains on death row I sat up and he was still asleep like I was working on trying to get Unbound but I was really frightened because the first night he was very alert and then I sat back up and I reached over him trying to get the phone that was going off every five minutes I accidentally hit the taser and uh and the crackling is loud and it woke him up and he sat up he put his feet down on the the floor he's just really groggy though he just looked at the floor like he was still asleep or out of it he just sat like that it seemed like 30 seconds and then he laid back down if not for this Jane Doe's bravery Shawn might still be free it makes us wonder what would have happened if Shawn hadn't been caught and that's where we end this video if you like today's video then drop a line and if you want to support the channel even further you can check out my patreon link in the description below thanks for watching I'll see you in the next one