[Music] and welcome to facts or [Music] frauds what is your date of birth Mr Greg uh good afternoon your honor uh 772 is my date of birth you say that again go ahead say what you about to say I'm I have a motion before the court your honor let me first start do you need a lawyer sir I know your honor city of Detroit um versus Christopher Bray case numbers uh s sp135 79452 and 31199 85 counts one and counts two sp1 629 749 counts one and counts two s sp1 26 7 865 counts one and counts two and counts three for the record please I mean St your name for the record please Christopher Lamar gray all right today is the date and time set for a pre-trial and then there's warrants on the other matters I'm going to enter not guilty ple on your behalf I'm going to give you a0 Bond I'll recall what is your motion sir uh I have a motion uh to strike and dismiss what are the bases uh bases of of federal rules procedure Federal rules of cival procedure um number one there is there's no claim there is no there's no ratification of the claim there is a claim there isn't there is there is a you want me to read out you I I wav the reading of the information you want me to read the the uh the allegations that have been made into the record do you need me to do that no I don't no I don't you're honor I deny your motion on that basis what else do you have say you deny my motion because of what your honor there is no real I Deni your motion because there is a uh uh and and this is Criminal procedure not civil procedure but I denied your motion because there is a there is an allegation here there there is there you're saying your honor you're saying this is is a criminal matter yes okay well then there's we need the Corpus dcti and so that's what I'm asking for if there was a criminal matter basically what you're telling me is that something has happened someone has either been damaged or someone has been been or or either someone has been damaged or someone has something something has been been come up missing and if that's the case then that means that there is a crime and if there's a crime then there is the the what do you have that saying that I did the crime what you're saying that I created this crime that hurt this person and if I hurt this person and I created the crime then you are the third third thing that you have to have is the identification of the person you have the identification of the person which is me but you don't have a person saying that they were hurt or damaged or the crime that's saying what I did to hurt or damage the person so how do you so how do you have a crime okay you you you went to law school no your honor I have not and you where did you where did you get that where did you get that from where did you learn all i' I've been I've been studying for quite some time trying to understand what's going on um I I have a different perspective as to what's being hap what's being what's being um what's being said that happened um I'm understanding more the the the proced procedure that is necessary for a crime to go forth for their for them to bring a crime forward I'm I'm I'm understanding that a bit more and where did you get that understanding um I've done some Cornell Law studies I've also um sat down with a couple of friends who have had some issues um I picked up a wherever I could just started to study the law I just started to go back through Cornell Law started to figure out what was going on and to and to understand the nature of of of how crimes what a crime is and and everything else just a course of searching it out and you're citing Corell law for all of that that you just said to the court no what I did your honor was I realized that one of the biggest portions that you have to have is you have to have the corporate dcti and that is that is in when you're being chared criminal what is the corpor elti what do you mean what is Corpus dcti what is what is your understanding of what Corpus dcti is that is that is the the Corpus dcti is the is the law that's saying that there is a crime that's being committed so in order to do that you have to prove you have to show the corporate dcti which is you saying this is what happened this is how this person was damaged there is on this on these dayses because I I got a lot of them said I object I I object the officer interrupt I apologize I apologize R my apologies Officer says that um you you drove a vehicle that wasn't registered and wasn't titled uh or or titled and or Untitled that you drove without a valid driver's license that you drove without valid insurance uh again on a different occasion they alleged that you drove but without a valid driver's license and no insurance and then on a different occasion they alleg that you drove without unregistered or Untitled or or both or and drove without a valid driver's license or ke offender that you fail failed to uh have a trailer plate and that you failed to secure a load on your vehicle and uh on another on another occasion on the same occasion that you felt sure that they you fa to secure load fail to have a trailer plate on your vehicle that you didn't provide a valid driver's license so those are the crimes and in state of Michigan whether you agree or not they are crimes So based on your motion and all of that stuff you talked about Corpus deti and things like that the Court denies the motion okay based on those reasons I just said now how do you want to move forward because wait a minute I'm not finished my apologies forward because in my experience someone that comes in court as you do um you do not want to take an offer you did not believe that you need to have plates or or registration or insurance and you just disregard all of that portion of the law and uh either you are going to move forward by having a a trial or you're going to take a deal what do you want to do sir your honor first I want to put my objection on the record whatever your objection is is noted what do you want to do sir you want trial I you have two you have two options trial or you want to take a deal your your honor I request a jury trial a jury trial a jury trial yes your honor very well miss Mattis I need a jury trial please and if I may your honor what time is Mr Gray presently docking it I don't even think it matters but I'll tell you I don't think it matters he's got um the newer cases and and older cases are pre-trial at 8:35 Christopher Lamar gray and then he had some in warrant status I count it 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 cases into the record you know what I want to ask Mr Gray and you can choose to answer it or not yes your honor but what I surmise and what I've heard and I don't know if you you're alleging the same thing is that the and you basically did allege the same thing that no crime has been committed because no person has been uh uh uh uh you you know the people of the state of Michigan are in danger of you driving without the proper documentation or anything like that um but I don't and I'm G I'm gonna surmise and you can correct me if I'm wrong that you're gonna say that that there's no jurisdiction to to be able to pull you over because no one has um has uh been injured is that correct um I think that what I'm saying is that the city of Detroit had an officer pull me over to say that you're not following these rules and my stance is okay well then that's fine if we're following rules then therefore let me make sure that you as well as are following the rules because if I don't do that then freedoms are lost so that is which that is the way that I proceed to say okay well then if we're playing cards and we playing show me yours if this is your hand then this is minds and let's proceed accordingly to the law that's only this is only this is that's it that's that's my only standing is if someone doesn't stand up every once in a while and Define the edges then they all disintegrate and people lose people lose rights and and you know something with that being said I would agree with you a th% that's why I pride myself and I hope I'm doing a good job for the citizens that come in here and the police for that matter and the prosecution that I am calling the balls and Strikes right and if something doesn't proceed as it should then I will dismiss the case one way or the other but in my short time on this bench and in my time at practicing law as a defense attorney I get this you know they can't pull me over I've heard the Corpus delecti first time the civil procedure has been thrown at me uh but from my from the way I see it is that you just don't feel that the police have a jurisdiction to pull you over for these issues is that correct do I have this what again your honor what I feel is that if we are following rules that if I have to follow the rules and every person out there all of these officers everybody else has to follow the rules so if it com what I'm what I'm gonna hope that you do by the time you come back on the trial date is jury trial dat is going to be January I mean strike that March the 18th 2025 thank you Ryan you're gonna you're probably gonna have an audience because everybody follows me on these on these cases all the time I I understand all right and I don't know if that's what you want but we're gonna we're gonna that January July the March the 18 2025 we're going to have a final pre-trial date final pre-trial this is to you Mr Bowman especially the day before on January I mean February 17th 20125 at 8:30 so Mr Gray and Mr uh uh Bowman I need you Mr Bowman I need you to have all your officers appear on that date who's ever going to uh State uh their these allegations so that we know that this we're not just summoning the people of the city of Detroit to a jury that's not actually going to uh go so all parties must appear and that that can be via Zoom and the trial is going to be in person all right all parties must appear on Final pre-trial date and obviously on the trial date um and what I would what I would implore you to do is you need to figure out the right game because it doesn't sound like you're playing right game I understand your honor um I appreciate first and foremost let me say I appreciate uh the dialogue I appreciate you you sitting here and and and engaging with me at this level so I recognize what you're saying and um so I guess it's it's to the table we go so yeah but get your game in order because I'm just give your little heads up if you come in with that game on the jury trial day then more than likely you'll lose unless you can find some one of those jurors or a couple of those jurors or even all of them to have some sympathy for you sir I don't I got a I got a whole basis for understanding and and so yeah if you know it that basis that you outlined shortly today is not is not what was what was what was flawed in my pre what was flawed your your honor what is we already discussed it we already discussed it the the the federal rules of civil procedure that you brought up as a motion to dismiss not not the right basis the uh the Corpus deti they do have a corpus delecti they do have a crime that they say has been committed and if you read the MCL the Michigan court rules and the Michigan statutes then you'll see those crimes outline there they have them on the tickets they they got the they got the the the uh statute numbers that are on the tickets so that's not the right basis so you're you're you're in a whole different ball game and you need to come on to this ball game here okay all right okay well I guess we we will have that discussion again um I appreciate it I also want to uh say um I recognize and honor your compassion that you sit on the bench with um I I see it um as you go out here and you you judge our people and so for all of that um kud knows man that's for where you sit that's I appreciate that thank you sir appreciate it I I appreciate that Mr Havey holiday season sir and best of luck to you I'll see you back on on March the 17th 2025 at 8:30 for a final pre-trial and let me say this let me ask the record any motions if there's any motions those motions need to be in writing days within 10 days let's put let's put that on the record to a motion dat those motions need to be in writing have those motions to the court by February 14 2025 and the response if uh will be February 21st 2025 and I'll rule on those motions on the final pre-trial date of 37 2025 again all parties must Mr all right appreciate it Happy Holiday your honor you're muted Mr bman motion motion date is of Primal pre trial date of March 17 thank you you anything add thank you honor but let me make sure that my dates are correct if I may so the final pre-trial date where everyone is present is on March 177 March 17 2025 at 8:30 and the trial the trial date is March 18th 25 yes and that is in person right and the uh the uh motion date filing is 214 the reply date is 221 all right thank thank you very good that G 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