And welcome to facts or frauds. And it's the return of our sovereign friend Mr. Myrick. Wonder if he ever figured out that whole Sixth Amendment you know, informed on the charges thing. Okay, uh so is that Mr. Myrick? Yes, sir. Okay. So, Mr. uh Myrick, uh good morning. It's uh I've got this set for a pre-trial. Um now, I have a note here that said that uh you were not interested in court-appointed counsel, which is fine. Um uh So, basically at this point in time it's a pre-trial. So, I would set you up with a breakout room with the prosecutor to see, you know, what they're you know, if they have any offers or what their story is. Uh I just want to make sure you know when you go in there, like you don't have an attorney with you and they're the attorney on the other side. They may give you an offer that you like and that's fine, but I just want to make sure that you know that at any point in time if you don't you know, if you don't um you know, like the way the conversation is heading, if you uh if you change your mind and you do want to come back and ask for an attorney, just come back and let me know, okay? Okay. Um before I before I get into the breakout, um your honor, I I I do want to address we are in a in in the pre-trial stage and um in the arraignment stage, um I was entered a plea um involuntarily. So, um I would I would love to um have a ample amount of time to draw a meaningful defense uh if anything. Um there was there was some questionable things that um the last judge um mentioned that I've I haven't found it at all as far as a statutory jurisdiction. Um but I would like to I have time to draw the draw a meaningful defense as well. Okay, so should you should you not want to meet with the prosecutor then? Uh well, I I I I I don't I I don't think it's it's completely prudent right now simply because we haven't um technically um went past the the arraignment um stage of of of this process. Um I I I feel as if my my due process um has been violated. Um Fifth and 14th Amendment. I I didn't I didn't I didn't enter a plea and here we are in pre-trial. So, I would like to um kind of digress a little bit and have a have a at least some a enough time for to to develop a meaningful defense. Okay, I guess I'm a So, I'm a little confused. So, you had a an arraignment date um and at that arraignment date um did you refuse to to to enter Did you refuse to enter a plea because that's the time where where a plea of some sort has to be entered. So, at that point in time did you of your own volition say, "I'm not saying anything at all"? Well, it that wasn't totally the case, but I didn't have understanding of um what court I was in and I didn't understand if it was a criminal jurisdiction, civil jurisdiction and um based on the um the at least the federal laws for sure. Um it it we didn't get we didn't come up to an understanding. So, Okay, so were you in So, so just so I understand, were you in custody at the time you were arraigned? Were you in custody? No, no, sir. Okay. So, how did you know how to even zoom in get here? Uh say that again, your honor. How did you How did you know like for the arraignment like if you So, often times when there's an arraignment that that happens when someone's been arrested and they're sitting in custody, okay? Or if they've received a ticket or some sort of notification. Um so, you just you just said to me that you you didn't even know what court you were in. So, I just want to know like how did you know how to how to get here? How did you know how to zoom in cuz the zoom information contains all of our all of our like what court it is, what magistrate like all that's contained in there. So, I just um how did you know otherwise? No, I I I did I did receive a ticket and um and I and I got I got a notice. Um but what what my what my issue was was appearing here on special appearance today and and and and I wanted to I needed to get understanding of what jurisdiction I was in. Okay. All right. So, I just because I definitely want to make sure that people know where they're supposed to be. So, I'm So, I think I'm looking at the same tickets that you had. So, it says it says on the ticket 44th District Court, Royal Oak um and then the court address is on there. And then you said that you received notice. So, the notice that went out it would have had the zoom instructions. Again, I'm I Mr. Myrick, as you can imagine, we are you know, I'm always very concerned about making sure people have the proper notification and all that. So, it does appear that I mean, you're here a second time. The only thing that I was The only thing that I was you know, now looking at the file here um you were ordered to post a bond and you and you didn't. Now, um that was I'm I'm reading the notes here. It says there was a a bond of a thousand cash surety, no no 10%. So, a thousand dollar bond was expected to be paid within 48 hours. Now, Mr. Myrick um we're here today. You showed up on time. So, one of the reasons that a bond is is is is ordered is one, for the safety of the community and two, to a secure appearance. Well, you've here you come here a second time and so, I am very comfortable that you are going to continue to show up. So, I at the very least for you, Mr. Myrick, today as long as you you know, continue to abide by the expectation that you'll show up and you have twice now, I'm going to actually amend that bond. So, the even though you were supposed to do it within 48 hours and you didn't, okay? The fact that you showed up here again, at least to me is enough evidence to um to suggest that I can count on your appearance going forward. So, Yes, that's righteous. I'm going to amend bond to a personal bond. Okay, that's Remember, that's not a cash bond. It's just your personal promise that you continue to show up for court dates as you have so far. So, Yes, sir. I'll amend this to a 1,000 personal due to defendant's multiple on-time appearances. And and what I'm ultimately asking, your honor, is is that if if I can have more time to um I I I don't have any discovery. I don't I don't have any I don't I don't have what I need to to um to assess to move forward. So, if if I can have more time I have no problem adjourning I have no problem adjourning the pre-trial so that you could do some more information gathering. Um just to let you know, Mr. Myrick, again um like our court uh as you can imagine with 69675 Woodward, you know, we have a lot of traffic misdemeanors that come through this court and one of the our signature programs that we've been doing for the last 8 years is, you know, trying to really help people um because I I I would imagine that you you you you you pay attention to you know, the the the challenges of the Metro Detroit area and and public transportation issues and people's ability to get around. And how many people over time have you know, got themselves in the cycle of you know, uh they have to drive, but they you know, they and they pick up a ticket and they can't pay that ticket, so their license gets suspended and they get stuck in the cycle forever and ever and ever, okay? Well, in our in our Operation Drive program, what we've done over the last now we're in last 8 to 10 years. We've been keeping stats since March 2016. So, in the last 9 years we're over 1,700 licenses restored. So, like that's something that we try to do is make sure that we inform, educate, get people um the information that they need, which Mr. Myrick, you could probably imagine um for years and years the court system hasn't been great about letting people know even where to start, how to get their license. So, in the meantime, while you're doing your investigation, I at least want to let you know um See here. Bear with me. I just have to I'm just looking here at what's on on your record so that you can um at least let at least know because some people don't even know like where to start, how to go or you what to do. And the law has the law has And the law has changed in a significant way. Used to be that every single little ticket that you'd get would suspend your license. Now, it's only a couple tickets here and there that do that. So, um Okay, so I'm very honored, your honor, to be in your courtroom. I think you're the you're the one that I've heard so much good news about good-willed and good-hearted judge that that that assists the public to oppose to um the opposite. So, I I I truly appreciate your efforts here. Thank you very much. Well, you're welcome. So, all right. So, um So, just to give you a heads-up, I mean, you I would imagine that over the time because I mean, to be fair, it's it's it's it's been a while since you had since you had a license um that that um um that that there might be you know, like this this idea that there's a lot of there's a ton of tickets that are holding up to There's actually only There's actually only two tickets. Only two tickets that are actually suspending your license. There's one and one no proof insurance from like 2005 and one from two and that one's in Detroit, okay. Now you might have a number of tickets in Detroit, but basically now you can be surgical in your approach instead of having to pay the whole boat, you can pick the one that is suspending your license. Now you'll have to ultimately pay them all, but as you know, Mr. Myrick, it's a lot easier to pay off tickets if you have a job that you can get to reliably without having to pay for Uber, Lyft, all that kind of stuff. And so or looking over your shoulder all the time rolling the dice. Yes, sir. And so, you know, what we try to do is is let's get in there and make a surgical approach, take care of the tickets that are actually suspending you. Yes, sir. And then and then you can get about the business of taking care of the other ones, you know, once you get your your feet underneath, you know. Yes, sir. So it's there's a 2005 no proof insurance out of Detroit and a 2009 out of Allen Park. Now if those two are taken care of, all that's left all that's left is a 125 reinstatement fee with the Secretary of State. And so you've got those those two all right, the no the the the 125 reinstatement Secretary of State. Now since you haven't had a license in a while, I'm not going to sugarcoat it, you're going to have to take the written and road test again. But again, after all this time, after all this, you know, energy and and frustration with the the process to have to sit down and take a a written test I Mr. Myrick, obviously you were aware of your rights and you know how to study and do the work. You pass the written test no problem and then the road test what you could take that right away. So literally Mr. Myrick, um you know, again, I'm going to give you whatever time you need, but um you're actually probably closer than you've been in 20 years to getting a license if again, you decide if that's a priority for you, but again, I I It it is, your honor. It is and it has been daunting. Has been daunting. See, I get the sense and I get the sense too that so much of the so the the the frustration with the process is is is is in so many ways justified. Um because that Mr. Myrick, that's what I was seeing for years. People were coming in and the the the basically the the system turned um individuals who are otherwise law-abiding, hard-working people just couldn't pay a ticket and then made them feel like criminals and just and they they weren't. And so what we've been doing and it's so funny, Ms. Chapelle is here, she's one of my Operation Drive attorneys. I mean, like that's what we do. We we we get people back to work. We get people back to, you know, not walking around in a virtual prison. Yes, sir. Thank you very much. So all right, so uh let me see. One one piece of advice that I can give you too is you can actually look up there's not like there's not like some secret judge website. You can actually look up and see how much the ticket is. Can you if I Let me Let me do this real quick. I'm going to chat I'm going to send you a chat right now. Just let me tell me if this pops up on your end, okay? Okay. Did you say chat? Is that Did that come up on your end? I did see I do see notification. I'm going to click it right now. Perfect. No, I mean I did Yeah, I just want to make sure you can see it, okay? So if see here Okay, so if you So 36th District Court. The only challenge I will say though is that um Because this Ms. Chapelle, because this tickets are from this this is no proof insurance is from 2005, are those going to be harder to look up because they're outside The criminal matters are the 7-year. I can probably still find the 2005. Okay, cuz I just want to make sure I'm going to look this up cuz I want to see if we can figure out how much that ticket actually is so that before he leaves today you even you know what the Do you mind if I grab a pen, your honor, so I can take record as you Yeah, go ahead. Thank you. Yeah, go ahead. I don't want to fight getting in the way of Ms. Chapelle's excellent work today. Okay, so Mr. Myrick, I I'm going to share my I'm going to share my screen, okay, real quick so you can see All right. Okay, so can you see this? Um It should be like it says court case inquiry. Yes, sir. Okay. All right, so I'm just going to go back real quick. So I I literally just Googled 36th District Court Case Lookup. So again, anybody can do this, all right? And then it got to this screen that says look up case balance and I clicked on accept view case balance and then it gives me a register of actions, okay? So I'm going to I'm going to try and I and and I'm I'm hopeful that we still will be able to pull up at least find out what the balance is on this ticket. See, that's These are you know, these are just to give you an idea, Mr. Myrick, this is some of the issues that we run into is because people try to track down things and because of some age of the matters, things like that, it might not be immediately easy to to discover. But let's I'm going to take a look just real quick at some of these outstanding tickets just to make sure. Yeah, so it only has anything it only has It looks like to me it doesn't have his old stuff easy to access. Um Was there a different spelling of your name ever, sir? No, sir. Okay. All right, so I'm going to Here's what I want I'm going to give you, okay, remember when I sent you this chat? I'm going to send you the actual ticket number, all right? Yes, sir. My only frustration is I can't give you the dollar amount, but traditionally on the no proof insurance, Ms. Chapelle, down at the 36th, they usually been a max like 288, right? It'll either be 288 or 336. Okay, so there is Did you get that chat from me right now? It should have come through. I I missed the notification. I cannot No problem. I'll do it again. Okay. Got you. Okay. All right, so Um and then I'm going to I'm also going to send you the Allen Park ticket number. Okay, and I don't know does Allen Park have a lookup, Ms. Chapelle, at all? They do. They do. I can try to look it up for him. So So, your honor, are these two ticket numbers that you gave that you sent me in the chat? The first one I know, so the first one I gave you I just I did it on repeat, okay? That's the that's the 2005 no proof insurance out of Detroit. So if you contact Detroit, give them that ticket number and say I or or if you you want to show up there, just go and walk in there and say I'm here to pay this ticket, how much is it? Yes, sir. Okay? And then once you pay that ticket then they send a clearance to the Secretary of State and that's one down, we got one to go. And now I'm going to send you the Oak Park or the sorry, the the Allen Park ticket and Ms. Chapelle, you'll be able to see this once I send this. I'll just send this in the general chat. If you're at the Okay. Do you see that, Mr. Myrick? Yes. Yes, sir, I do see it. I'm recording it right now. And And this is the 2009, right? Exactly, 2009 out of Allen Park. And there is a lookup, Judge, but I'm not finding that ticket. Okay, so um Yeah, so that's so so it looks like that's the only ticket out of Allen Park, so you should be able to call up there, say here's my ticket number, I'd like to pay this ticket, okay? Okay. Now uh from my familiarity, just so you know, as well, like the the Berkley prosecutor, if if someone is going to get engaged with our Operation Drive program, usually there's a reduction to a a non-traffic misdemeanor, so it doesn't go on your record, doesn't extend it. And so in addition to you looking into your own defenses and things like that all the things you're doing will also put yourself in a better position to have a good resolution from the Berkley prosecutor on this one even if you decide, okay, well, I don't really have the defenses to this, but I I definitely don't want to extend my suspension. I don't want any any points to go on my record to push this out further, okay? All right, but once those two tickets are done then um I think I just found it, Judge. Did you? I think so. I um the 2009 Is that what we're dealing with from Allen 2009, yeah. Okay. Sorry, the system's kind of slow today. That's all right. All right, so there is a driver's license and this is um a spelling of the name's accurate. It was an order of nolle pros regarding a driver's license suspended, but they still have a $45 fee showing. And then going back, there's three separate tickets. And then going back to the second ticket, um cuz Judge, you're thinking it's an NPOI? Yeah, should be an NPOI. All right. Because there are three tickets, all of which are showing 45s. Really? Yeah, so let me look at the second one. Sorry, it's taking so long. That's all right, that'd be great news cuz that means just $45. No proof of insurance, this one was a default judgment. It is showing $45, but it is showing a bond that you posted, sir, back in 2009 of 398. I think they took that, so um perhaps they applied it to that fee and they just want the 45. That may be the answer on that one. So so Okay, so best case best case scenario they'll let you just pay the 45, okay? Worst case scenario, they'll want the $45 on each of the old tickets, so 135. So best case scenario 45, worst case scenario 135. But that's Allen Park. Wow, that's right. And that's 24th District Court serve if you're looking it up. 24th District. And it's interesting because these are very old cases, but the close date on the third ticket is 2017 and now I'm getting error readings, so but there's just three. Looks like you had your bond taken on the no proof because perhaps you didn't go back and that may satisfy that. All right, so Mr. Myrick, so here's what we're going to do. I'm going to bump this out a couple weeks. You get to work chopping away at that kind of stuff. But I will say this, um I only want to bump it out a couple weeks because if you get those things done, all right, I want you to come back and see me. I'll we'll be able to run a new driving record. We'll see if by doing that, all right, that they follow through and let the Secretary of State know because if they take your money and they don't let the Secretary of State know, then the suspensions remain. And then we can we can even contact the Secretary of State and just make sure that they know like, "Oh, by the way, he paid those." Um and then uh when you come back here, um you know, you can give me an update and but just know if you paid those two tickets, you should be able to go to the Secretary of State and um uh uh pay the reinstatement fee and go from there. So, what do you think? A couple weeks? Um safely say I would say 30 days of No problem. No problem. Thank you, Honor. I appreciate you dearly, too. Thank you very much. Welcome. All right, so we'll adjourn this 4 weeks um and we'll send notice again. And then um just do me a favor, Mr. Myrick, if you run into issues, um I'm going to send I'm going to send you our direct line here at the court. Thank you very much, Honor. And um for example, um if you do decide if you're running into issues, we can I I I certainly can connect you with uh Mr. Engott uh Mr. Mr. Chapelle. They're um Mr. Engott's our MIDC coordinator. Uh I know that you were initially were not uh inclined to go with uh assigned counsel, but what Mr. Chapelle is doing today is exactly what would be done. So, uh if you just reach out to us, let us know like if you're running into brick walls and you say like I would like an attorney attached to this case, Yes, sir. call us and we'll get it done. Um so, here's the number directly. Yes, sir. I'll just send it to you. Um I can just give it to you. It's uh 248-246 I'm going to I'm going to jot you, Honor. I I I see it. 248 246-3651. Yes, sir. Okay. So, um I look forward to seeing what you can get done, Mr. Myrick. Again, I I could I could tell you were a person of conviction and uh that you are are willing to do uh what it takes, but um uh certainly I've been very frustrated by the the way in which the process has worked for the last 20 years, so Yes, sir. let's see if we can uh change the narrative here, okay? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I I really appreciate that. That that that makes my heart sing. Thank you. Good luck to you, sir. We'll send you notice in 4 weeks. Thank you. Take care. For the next 20 seconds, we will be conducting a test of our early warning defense system. Repeat. This is just a test. AH! ATOMIC WAR! WE'RE GOING TO DIE! MY FACE! WHERE'S THE DOG? WHY IS IT ALWAYS MY RESPONSIBILITY? WHO DO YOU THINK I AM? YOUR PERSONAL MAID? THIS HAS BEEN A TEST. AND THANKS for hanging out with us on Facts or Frauds. Make sure you hit the thumbs up button, you subscribe, and ring that bell. Also, leave a comment in the comment section. Tell me what you think. 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