Basically what I'm doing is we're just I'm I'm a pastor, >> okay, >> with the ministry. And so we're doing the whole um we're separating as far as off of the actual corporation in the United States. >> What kind of sh is this anyway? >> It's about what happens when [music] private belief meets public law. >> How we doing? >> Good. How are you? >> I'm good. I'm deputy going with the sheriff's office. I'm interested in your license plate. What's going on with that? >> Okay. It's uh it's part of the DOT. >> Okay. >> Basically what I'm doing is we're just I'm I'm a pastor. >> Okay. >> With the ministry. And so we're doing the whole um we're separating as far as off of the actual corporation in the United States, you know, and so we kind of separated that way. So it's out of the jurisdiction, but we just travel in peace. >> Okay. I'm not I'm not familiar. I haven't heard of that before. Um well a lot a lot a lot haven't because they don't really train up on it because you know you guys just serve the public and as a corporation. Um but yeah >> okay >> we're just telling people we're not an actual commercial motor vehicle. [clears throat] It's a private entity. >> Okay. >> So and that's why it's just the right to travel. It's not the whole big citizen thing like that. We're actually non citizens because we're actually a foreign and so that's why what we register with the DOT. So we just so let them know okay we're just traveling in a private vehicle not in actually not a motor vehicle but actual private auto. >> Okay. Do you have a driver's license on you? >> I don't because we're turning that in and and because we're separating from that corporate tie. So, it's not part of that whole theft protection thing that that the motor vehicle department stands for. And we're not traveling in commercial. >> Okay. Do you have any sort of identification on you? >> Um, I don't have my passport. I do I do have a a license that I haven't turned in yet. >> Okay. >> I mean, but I'm not obligated to give that identification, but I work peacefully. So, I I you know, I'm not I'm not a rebellion. I just I know this [snorts] is new to you. I'm just I'm trying to get to work. I'm obeying all the things and stuff like that, but I have to get to work. Um >> Okay. >> I'd love to I'd love to chat with you and and and get together and and inform you some more so you know more about it. >> My point and concern is that I can't prove what you're saying. >> So, first of all, like I said, I'm not familiar with what you're referring to. So, in order for me to confirm what you're saying, I'd like to have some sort of identity from you. >> Maybe a supervisor would understand. Well, as far as that one, cuz it is underway. >> I want to talk to the manager. >> Okay, hang off. >> There you go. I'm just stepping. I can barely hear you with the window just partially open and traffic. I can barely hear what's going on. >> He's been cooperative. So far, we got no issues, but I He's not going to identify himself. So, >> okay. >> I'm trying to figure out. >> Well, I I can verbally say I'm George. I'm I'm >> Okay. So, you know, there's probably about a million Georgees, right? >> You're real smart, aren't you, George? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, we we need to know exactly who you are. Just saying your name George doesn't identify who you are. We have to be able to positively identify you as your specific identity >> because going by George, like I said, there's there's a million of Georgees. Okay. >> We just need a way to positively ID you as your individual self. Okay. >> Do you have anything with your with your full name or any kind of documentation? >> But I don't want to step in under the jurisdiction of the corporation I was explaining to him. I >> Okay. >> Because I'm just acting as a as a free human. I'm traveling, going to work, doing that. >> So we understand that. So you're you're in the state of Florida, correct? Right now, are you in the state of Florida? Inside the continental US. >> Okay. You agree with that? >> So in the state of Florida, continental US, to operate a motor vehicle on public roadway, you have to have a valid driver's license during a traffic stop, you have to identify yourself to law enforcement. Okay. >> Yeah. And my my only statement is that I'm not actually operating a motor vehicle. Okay. So driving a private auto it is a motor vehicle. It is a vehicle with four wheels and a motor and it is propelled on the roadway by not your feet. It is a motorized vehicle. Okay. >> But by definition in the UCCC codes even it's a private automobile. >> Okay. It it's not. Okay. You're going by by stuff that is written a 100 years ago and has changed and updated since the time you want to what you're trying to quote us by. Okay. >> Uh it really isn't. It's a UCCC code and that's what they're going. >> So does the car come back? Who's car? >> I No, the tag's not legit. It's a paper tag that's for high or not not for high. >> No, it's it's a it's not for high. It's a private automobile and it's and it's registered with a DOT. >> It's registered with the DOT. >> Okay. Okay. Well, he's going to run the bin. We're going to try and figure out what's going on. >> Explain it to you. I'm not sure what you're talking about. I've never seen that tag before. And you're not identifying yourself. So that I can >> What's that? What? I'm sorry. >> If I give you my name, what's that going to prove to you? that you have a valid driver's license first of all and that that you're operating under this USC US code that you're referring to. >> Yeah, the the US code. >> So, I understand that you're I understand what you're saying, but I'm not familiar with it and you're saying that essentially that's my job. I get that, but I don't I don't know the code. So, if you could provide that so I can prove that cuz right now we are >> Yeah, >> the public operates under you have to have a valid license. >> Perhaps the supervisor on the UCCC code. the numbers off hand, but it's I'm just I'm just trying to >> Okay, I said that's why I just asked if you had an ID so we can actually figure out who you are. >> If you can ID yourself to us, then >> you you are currently detained on a traffic stop. ID yourself, you can get out of here a lot quicker. The longer you prolong this, the longer you're going to sit here, the longer you're going to be late for work. Okay. >> Well, >> so that's all we need is we need to be able to identify who you are. Okay. Do you have a picture of an ID or anything? Here's me baptizing my wife. >> Okay, that's not that's not that's not an ID. >> If you make me angry, I'll do mean things to you, George. >> No, I I got him. >> You got him. >> It's George. He just the the registration's expired on this. >> He has a valid driver's license, but he's refusing to identify himself. >> Yeah, cuz basically cuz when it expired and I've learned about the private automobile and I >> Right. Let's take it for expired license registration and be done. I'm doing a little trust thing and so we're just trying to transfer it into that and be peaceful. [music] >> Quick fact check because this matters. George appears to have a valid driver's license, but the registration [music] is still expired. So instead of renewing it and displaying the plate, he covered it with that DOT sovereign citizen nonsense. >> You know, I know it's different cuz you're traffic, but I'm not committing any crime against my >> You are you're creating a a motor violation. a crime. >> It is a motor violation. Human being >> uh a crime. We have crimes. I can arrest people for criminal citations in as far as motor as far as traffic violations. There are criminal citations. Okay. >> I have not committed a crime against my fellow man. >> Okay. We're not saying you committed a crime against your fellow man. Okay. A crime against a fellow man is going to be theft, rape, murder, stuff like that. We are traffic enforcement. So, we enforce traffic laws. >> And what I >> You are violating a current traffic law. If you ask your supervisor, >> you are violating a current traffic law. >> So, Giovani Richard gave him a warning in September for expired tag. His tag expired in May. >> So, it's time for Yeah. time for a ticket today. >> So, and so if you want to give a ticket, then you can give a ticket. >> He said he said there's no no crime against his fellow man. I was like, well, no, this is a crime against traffic violations cuz you're violating >> drive violation, but that's if I'm operating with motor vehicle commercial, you know. >> Let's have a let's have a discussion cuz now I'm curious. >> Yeah. Yeah. You hold a valid driver's license. >> Yes. And I'm turning that in right now with the with the plate. >> So that's what I'm in the process of doing is discovering that and to do that. >> Okay. >> But all this this charade of >> Well, it's not really cuz what I'm doing is as a human being, I'm deciding, okay, I'm just going to operate privately. I'm not going to hurt anybody. I know those are sunglasses. So if >> Well, here's the thing. >> If if I give you a ticket, first of all, you're still refusing to identify yourself. I found your identity. Even though that's not >> right, but I'm saying you're you're by law required to identify yourself. You could be arrested for that. Let me just go through what's going on here. Okay. >> I mean, I've got it. I told you I've got it with me. >> Then why wouldn't you provide it? >> That's why I'm concerned. >> No, I was just because I wanted to explain it to them as the whole freedom thing because what happens is >> Okay. So, you're saying I'm going to pause you for a second. You're saying you're you're you're you said you're you're trying to operate freely this that blah blah blah. Why are you carrying a valid driver's license? >> Because I haven't finished the whole process yet. I'm learning about it and I'm trying transferring it. It's like two things. >> Okay. So, so you're new to the whole system. So, you really don't have a 100% idea what you're trying to explain. >> No, actually, I've been studying for for a while now. >> So, you're carrying a valid driver's license. So, that means that you have agreed at some point in your life that you're going to follow Florida law >> unknowingly because I didn't realize that's where we're at old though. But I'm not but I'm not acting commercially right now. I'm not >> Nobody said you're acting commercially. >> But that's what if you look at it, your whole traffic code, it's all commercial. No, it's not. >> It's a uniform commercial. It's not United States insurance for the vehicle. >> I'm sorry. >> You have insurance for the vehicle? >> Yeah. Yeah. It's super aggressive. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, I can call them and get a thing in case again. But >> you don't you don't carry that with you? >> I was sending that all in. No. >> So, here's here's my concern here. Okay. So, we still have not resolved the situation where you were warned last September for your expired tag. It's still expired. You've now put fraudulent paper license plate on. >> Well, it really is. Ask for >> it is fraudulent. I'm >> It doesn't populate into any database. That means it is fraudulent. >> No, it just means it's not registered commercial. >> No, it means it is fraudulent. If it does not populate to your motor vehicle or a motor vehicle, it is a fraudulent plate, >> which is a felony in the state of Florida. >> No, I'm merely stating showing that it's been registered with a DOT. >> It has not been It has not been we our system is connected straight to them. Okay. >> Have a different license plate. Well, FB federal, I'm sorry, the FMST. >> Okay. Yeah. So, now you keep changing cuz earlier you're saying FDOT. FDOT is Florida Department. We're connected straight to the system. >> I'm not ready, Robbie. I'm just driving and I'm trying to get >> cuz my concern is he's already been stopped for this once. >> Well, and now he's putting you can hear him for the felony. >> That's why I'm actually started the process because since then I'm like, okay, I I I shouldn't reregister it. I need to go through this process. So, that's what it is. I'm in the process of is over on 41. You want to see if he can kick over here? >> Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I I I don't think that So, I don't think a ticket is going to resolve this this matter. You know what I mean? Like his tag. >> He's not he's not of further values. I'm not really scared. Like I said, >> what happens if you Let's give this example while he's making a phone call. What happens if you hit somebody out here in the roadway? What's the process then? >> Well, I I still purchase some insurance to help offset that, but then we actually have a ball. Everybody has a bond tied to this social security and so you can actually access that and set up a bond to then take care of anything. So anything that I'm liable for, if I've committed uh any damage to anybody, then I become liable for and and take care of it. And so I either do it through my own personal or do it through the bond that's attached. >> Do you do you have anything that I can Google or any paperwork for me that I can look at? The problem is is we're not going to come to a resolution if we give him a ticket and he drives off. He still can't drive off because he doesn't have >> a valid registration for the vehicle. >> But no, cuz then you're detaining and then you're kidnapped. >> No, it's not kidnapping because I'm a private individual and I'm not falling under jurisdiction. >> I'm asking you to provide that. So right now I'm just having a conversation with him while you look for that. Okay. Yes. >> Cuz as far as we're concerned, the law is that you cannot number one have attempted license plate cover over your license plate. And then two, once I get you stopped and I can verify the license plate, I can't verify it. So you have two violations for the traffic stop. Okay. >> So I'm going to be sar very kind of sarcastic. So you live in Kings Point, which is a gated neighborhood, correct? >> I actually don't live in Kings Point. >> Okay. Why do you have Kings Point? >> Uh because because I because I do stuff. I I go in people all the time. How elderly. >> Okay. So then I need to go to King's Point and let them know that you're not welcome in there because you have to be able to ID yourself when you go into Kings Point. >> I >> Do you provide ID to the security guards at Kings Point? >> No. Somebody cuz somebody always says calls me in. They say, >> "Okay, but you still have to ID yourself when you're in these neighborhood." >> I say, "Yes, I'm Pastor George." >> Oh, George. >> Anybody can travel. It's it's it's honestly again it's a free like you as a flesh and blood you should be able to travel and walk and ride anywhere you want privately. >> Okay. >> You shouldn't be inhibited. If you're inhibited then you become you're a slave. >> Okay. >> And you're not free to do those things. >> So So what decided what what point in your life did you decide to convert to this this belief? >> Well, it's not converting to a belief. It's just I've learned about it. I've been I've been since 2001. I've been, you know, saved and and and born again. So I actually serve God. I serve people. I I serve the elderly. I pray for folks. I I I do know to my >> being saved and praying and all that stuff. That is a religious belief. That is not a a a a freedom on the road. >> I extended that so that I I've learned about the actual UCCC codes. >> Okay. >> Enough to see that wait a second, we are privately and we can operate privately ourselves. >> Yep. We've been here before. What we're seeing isn't just religion. It's a branch of the sovereign citizen movement that wraps itself up in religion and then mixes it with financial myths. Claims about insurance tied to a birth certificate, secret straw man accounts, trusts that supposedly replace real coverage are common in these groups and none of them exist in law. There is no trust, no bond, and no insurance created by a birth record. And somebody calling something a trust does not make it so. But we can walk and and and do those things. >> You can walk wherever you want. A motor vehicle is is a right and privilege. It is not it is not your freedom >> if you Well, it actually is if you're not under the corporation. >> No. So So the motor vehicle traveling on public roadways is not a freedom. It is a right. It is something that is allowed and provided to you as long as you follow the laws and the guidelines that are provided. >> What you just said is actually perfect. You're absolutely right. It is a right once you're part of the corporation. >> It is a right. So it is a right. So if you follow the rules and guidelines that allow you that give you the right to operate your motor vehicle then yeah you can operate a motor vehicle on roadway. Part of that is involved in the state of Florida specifically is one you have to have a valid driver's license. Two you have to have registration for a vehicle and three you have to have insurance for that vehicle. So far you do not have registration for this vehicle. You have not provided insurance for the vehicle and you will not provide your ID. You made us take the long way around to figure out who you actually are. Okay. So, >> I I told you honestly who I was. >> You told us your name was George and I told you there's probably a million Georgees in the state of Florida. >> Shame on you, George. >> That does not ID you. That is not your physical personal ID. >> Everything you just said is absolutely true. If you're under the Corporation of the United States, >> do you live in Do you live in the United States? >> I'm choosing. Are you residing in the United States? >> No, I'm not residing there. >> Okay. Are you traveling in the United States? >> I reside here in the spirit. >> Okay. Are you traveling in the United States? >> I'm not traveling by now. >> You just told us you were traveling. >> Not of the UCCC code. >> You just told us you were traveling. >> I'm actually Well, we're not UCCC. This is Florida. We follow Florida code. Okay. >> Well, Florida commercial. >> So, okay. You have your levels of government if you want to go all through your governments. You have your federal government. You have your state and local governments. State and local governments are what you have to follow. State and local can trump over top of your federal government that corporation. >> Okay. So, you just you just said you agreed with it. Now you don't agree with it. >> No, I agree that that's true. If you're stepping into that corporation, >> okay, you're in the state of Florida. So, the state of Florida requires you to have that stuff and you don't want to provide that stuff >> as a person identified as a commercial unit of the corporation. But I'm not. That's what I'm saying. I'm just I'm now trying to say, okay, I'm functioning as a flesh and blood human. I'm just going to give you a tidbit of information. Okay? You can take it however you want. So that piece of paper that you have that has a private property number on there, that is what we call consider the state of Florida considers that a fraudulent tag or counterfeit tag, which is a felony in the state of Florida and is an arrestable offense. Okay? Because it is not proper registration. It is a falsified document to say you have the registration for a vehicle. Okay? >> Yeah. I'm not saying I >> and then having multiple copies of it is the felony alone. Okay? So, in the state of Florida, having a piece of paper with random numbers printed on it that do not register back to a vehicle is classified as a felony. Okay? >> This is not a commercial vehicle. This is a personal vehicle. It is owned underneath you and you alone. It is not owned underneath a corporation or a company. >> Well, actually vehicle. See, when you do the registration, you're handing that ownership. >> It's a passenger vehicle. Literally, this car is classified as a passenger vehicle. It is not a commercial vehicle. Okay. >> And after nearly 20 minutes alongside the road, here's what we've got so far. George has a driver's license, but refuses to identify himself. Vehicle registration expired. The real Florida plate covered with that self-made DOT tag. And he claimed insurance through a birth certificate in a trust that does not exist. And he refuses to cooperate with the officers. So that's where belief meets enforcement. >> All right, George, we do us a favor. Will you step out and have a chitchat? >> I can't. I can discuss right here. >> No, we're going to get out of the car. Okay, George. >> Vehicle. >> Okay. Come on. >> No. No. You're not You're not supposed to detain me. >> Come on, George. Don't make it. >> You don't have to make it harder than it is. Let's just come on out. Okay, >> sir. Step out of the car, please. >> Now you're being detained for refusing to identify yourself. >> Okay, that's a mistake. >> I just showed him right there. >> Okay, but we asked you several times. You did not give it to him. Now you've committed a felony like my partner explained to you by putting a fake license plate on your vehicle. It's It's not fake. >> Hello, Dad. I'm in jail. >> Hey, if you appreciated this video, make sure you tap the emotional support buttons for [music] YouTube. Like, subscribe, comment, and share. It helps the channel for free and reassures the algorithm that reality hasn't been replaced by [music] paperwork. And a huge thank you to every one of our channel members keeping the research solid, the lights on, and the coffee strong. [music] I really do appreciate you. This wasn't about lacking credentials. [music] It was about refusing responsibility. A belief system that promises freedom from obligation doesn't survive contact with public roads. 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