Jerry Hinshaw allegedly killed 17-year-old Marquis Smith outside of a cemetery on Plants Lane Henshaw is now charged with murder as well as evidence tampering in the case 23-year-old Jerry Lane Hinshaw Jr was known locally as a source for various drugs he usually limited his own use to certain periods when he had excess money especially after a run-in with the police on February 5th 2019 Henshaw agreed to meet seventeen-year-old Marquis DeQuan Smith also known as little red at a nearby Cemetery to make a sale Smith had stolen drugs from Hinshaw before and Hinshaw wasn't about to let it happen a second time he carried one of his father's guns with him most likely only meaning to intimidate Smith the confrontation turned ugly and Henshaw ended up shooting Smith multiple times killing him he then made a poor effort to hide the gun but it was easily found in his home when the police made their search before you sit down and take those upstairs foreign a little bit away he'll be here shortly all right can I get a phone call because that was supposed to be at work man um and I ain't about to call out or not are you arrested what you got going on it's got a warrant okay um I can't give you a phone call right this minute but as soon as you get over there get processed it now it appears that it might have a warrant for your arrest let me uh check on everything for you and yeah I'll let you know I'll come back here within the next few minutes and let you know what's going on all right I'll look into I'll pull up that number and I'll I'll call them so there's somebody that we need to call and talk to and let them know that at least my mom all right because she could tell my sister works at the same job you know Remember by heart yeah it means that bro I'll be right back no problem foreign I called your mom she's aware she says you can make notification for you and as soon as that detectives here he'll chat with you okay I have no idea brother I'm just here in the office working late shift and uh they called us and asked if we could uh sit in here until he gets here it shouldn't be very long oh [ __ ] I ain't got no sense of [ __ ] I have I have no idea damn all right all right bro so they said I'm arrested now there is a warrant for your arrest I haven't looked into it because it's not my case so I don't know anything about it I just know that your name is Jerry yeah all right um he'll be here he can explain everything to you I don't know anything about it we worked in six different teams and he's not on my team so I have no idea okay and he's gonna be a good little minute you said it'll be probably about a half an hour anyway I can get a cigarette home no you can't do that he might be able to help you when he gets here but I can't do that okay all right Jerry yes sir okay cool all right what's up man the other guy who was in here yeah we got wires crossed another did another detective already come in here okay okay so somebody we got somebody in that room that they're talking to and they even hear I thought they came in here so anyway I apologize about the incident that took place yes okay so and I want to go over some of that and you talk to me about your guns and all that and getting stuff back and all that kind of stuff um so I want to go over some of that stuff and I just kind of throw some of the stuff together that he had for me so I apologize I'm not the most organized straightforward yes I care about my life I need to know what's going on okay yeah yeah and I want to ask you a couple of questions yeah too but I can't arrest you well let me before I because I don't want to I don't wanna ask you questions and you answer me questions let me at least at least get started yeah so let's do this and then let's talk and then I can answer anything you've got and if you can hopefully try to answer um what I got what is that that's funny that's awesome okay so today is again I just grabbed his stuff so I'm trying to Henshaw has been deliberately kept waiting in the hope of breaking him down enough to talk the detective is cheerful and friendly as if this matter will be cleared up quickly the 16th August the 16th August the 16th 2019 um let me put that in the wrong place see I'm just grabbing stuff tonight um it's trying to be home um we're at the police memorial building you know where we are yes sir okay okay um building or the PMB okay and it is 6 40 p.m opposed to be L word you're supposed to be at work where are you working okay cool all right well let's try to make this fascinating Jerry Lane h-i-n-s-h-a-w-8 Henshaw and you're the third junior I mean Junior okay that's what he told me uh uh what's your address uh 5214 yes sir Woodcrest Road wood crest Road okay and what's your name over 96 how tall are you about five seven and what do you weigh of 0.20 120. um yeah blonde hair and what color eyes you got blue and you know you're social yeah what's that for you 904 I think you probably already gave it to detective okay they're uh white male and how old are you no three 23 can you read yeah yes and can you write and and I always feel bad asking somebody because I'm not trying to be offensive it's just part of the deal and what's the highest level of Education I went to trade school I got my high school diploma in the tree okay so high school diploma where'd you go oh it's called Janesville uh Gainesville Job Corps okay very cool good for you are you currently taking any drugs or alcohol no drugs no alcohol okay all right so I'm gonna we'll go over here like or read them would you just do me a favor I know you said you can read and write will you read that first line to me out loud you do not have to make statements or say no no I'm sorry this one right here oh yeah we're the arrow is sorry you had the following right you decide that you understand them that's all that's saying you got all kinds of things where do you get your stuff done I wore an art form right there on cast it and what is that like See No Evil Hear No Evil speaking of evil okay all right um I'll sign that you went over those rights um okay very cool so you live on the 52-14 and that's the west side of town okay and where where about is that um yep yep yep yep I know exactly where that is okay very cool um so you're they there was a shooting that happened at your house right okay and your house was shot um and I don't know a lot about it so I'm not trying to get into all that but uh during the course of that um investigation the detective Levitt said they uh they uh searched they got I think they got maybe some projectiles or something out of the out of the wall and it was it shot into the house yeah one went through my window and doing his refrigerator and somebody got hit two girls got hit they but they're obviously living thankfully critical oh they're Incredibles okay a new she relationship to you uh not really I just knew her from a buddy of mine that was standing with me at the time okay okay uh what was her name thank God Alexis not girlfriend 100 okay well I wasn't trying to finish it I was just asking um now I'll go crazy without a model later oh yeah what because of the shoes I had to wrap the Band-Aid over her head yeah he said you were trying to help her and that happened like when you guys were standing outside I had a baby in my arms who's your baby Henshaw quickly paints himself as an innocent bystander but Witnesses say otherwise I recently released another exclusive patreon video exposing a chilling incident where a man Unleashed his rage by committing a shocking act of violence against an innocent 15 year old his heart-wrenching video shows interrogation of Cody The Man Behind this horrible crime watch the full video and more at patreon.com stranger stories Plus holy crap dude and the baby wasn't hit okay that's good you know let's be thankful for that and the other girl that was out there you said two people two girls yeah those two girls and they're both in critical conditions okay um and um you're neither one of those who are your girlfriends no okay just just friends who were staying over there of the the guy who's staying there with you um well that's good has anything ever like that ever happened to you ever been shot before or shot at before I came home one time I found my roommate dad though in that house yeah there's like some curse on that house there you go so how long ago that happen probably about three years ago what happened or do you know I came home and found my employees shot in the face oh he was shot oh I was thinking maybe like an overdose or something in the house this is quite a violent location but it is too frequent to be coincidental so there was a homicide that happened in the house yeah holy cow what was his name uh Julia George I don't think I've never heard that one a couple years back dad gum so when you were out out there that night and um so people pull up and shoot at you all shoot they shot up at the car okay were you in the car no I was standing outside with the baby in my arms okay so you're in the driveway right right you're holding the baby and so people shoot at you a couple they were following the girls in the car oh and you had you been in the car no no okay okay so you were just at the house you were at your house yeah I was at my house okay gotcha you're at your house hanging out they pull up and you came outside yes sir and then they they shot at the girls the girls do you think they were shooting at people that were in that car or do you think it was just random or you don't know I probably don't know have you ever been shot at before no sir never I mean like deployed in the Army I know you're 23 so you probably got to go to the military shoes yeah well um and you weren't even home when you're um when your friend a few years ago got shot no I came home from I came home from work he was there and then I went to Best Bet in Orange Park so was that was like a robbery or something like that and my whole house was around that uh holy cow and he was shot was he staying he had been staying with you or you were staying with him we were both staying together um two different rooms in that house who lives with you now there my dad okay your dad um Junior so you're that's Jerry Henshaw senior okay okay um so that's crazy man you've been are those the only two well the fly yeah what are you what's up what are you doing man I'm not accusing you man I'm just saying maybe it's a house have you ever been anywhere else where people have shot at you hell no okay not just walking around the road or out someplace and somebody pulls out again it doesn't work man yeah no I don't mean today I just mean in general no I'm just saying you know what I mean I I had to work come home okay to myself okay gotcha got you gotcha um and how long you been working at Harpoon I just started uh this a month ago but I was working at BMW Navajo Warehouse where's that Alpha Bridger okay okay only thing I know there's like a UPS out there yeah okay it's in that same industry same in there yeah because that's where that is out there like a big industrial park out there okay um so they they process the scene I think they got he said they got several shell casings and I don't know what they are because I don't know exactly I'm just kind of filling in some and they got uh some projectiles that you know did it go through the house one day one went through I know they got the car but it went through the house yeah did it hit anybody inside the house no sir okay and they collected um I want to be able to give get your stuff back to you so they collected guns um and I've got the property card sheet so I want to make sure I've got which ones are your guns and we can get uh signature form so I can get those guns released to you and do you know what kind of guns you had uh to be honest my buddy was staying with me too yeah and he was living in the living room so his stuff was in my room we had stuff all together okay clothes and all together yeah yeah no I don't and I don't know about the clothes whatever was there you know there's um there's different stuff that I know they want to get but I was just going through like the gun so I can get yeah I need to make sure that gets back so what gun's that uh shotgun right there okay so this is your stepdad's gun yeah okay and this is all what he said is everything from the crime scene detective who collected everything I want to make sure so there's a 12 gauge shotgun uh some other kind of rifle rifle okay uh AR-15 style rifle yeah okay and I circled the one there's a 22 caliber revolver yeah I guess okay all right um a 357 revolver that's my dad's your dad's gun is this one yes sir okay uh 380 auto uh pistol with magazine I don't even know about that son okay so it's a Smith and Wesson bodyguard if you don't know I couldn't tell you okay so I can't release that one to you because you're not sure okay so unknown on this one um but you do know the the shotgun the rifle 22 caliber I don't know about 22 and what's the 22. that's yours no I don't know where oh you don't know this one either I don't know that one okay so I'm known on the 22. so you know about the 12 gauge shotgun yeah okay step dad what's his name Melvin Gilmore Henshaw claims he doesn't know who the weapon belonged to but it is clear that he has access even if it wasn't his Milton Gilmore m-i-l-t uh-huh oh and okay get more g i l m o r e okay Milton Gilmore uh the other rifle the DPMS yeah I knew about that one and whose is that I was me and my buddy just sharing it okay so I can release that to you Jerry and the 357 revolver that's my dad's own yeah I had to talk to him okay so you do you um all right so let me ask you this going back on it do you ever have did you ever have this one it's in my room yeah okay okay so the 12 gauge shotguns in your room yes sir this rifle does this one in your room trying to figure out what's the best one okay all right well that's easy then and this one you don't know you said oh no this one this one would be in your dad's room you think okay no I know because he's this one's with it your dad sleeps with this guy yeah okay and then this one maybe that would help um he printed off pictures for me [Music] that's my day and what kind is that you know I can't tell dang whatever it said whatever uh this is the 357 yeah or either that's the 20 22 I'm guessing that's what you want to though I don't know you've seen them before I've never seen them this is your dad's okay um that's that AR okay and I guess that's the other rifle and that's some kind of oh that's a shotgun yeah okay what's that one that was the girl that was in her name this is the girl is that the 380 yeah that looks like a 380 so you think that's the girls yeah what's her name oh my god well she's one of the people that got shot yeah okay the police said it was in her name but it may be but that doesn't mean it could heal their reporting yeah no no no no no it just says it may be in the report this is just a property I think because when they brought me down here to talk about what happened right the police officer was putting it in his trunk okay well it's in the property room now so in what's this one was that that one yeah 357 all right who and who who you said your stepdad or your dad stays with you over there does your stepdad stay over there no that's his uh whose house my stepdads all right I'm confused okay yeah my stepdad you rinse out the house your stepdad yeah okay and every now and then you know sometimes I need help yes you know what I'm saying things to hit so sure and the house ain't rented out right I'll stay there you'll stay there yeah and your bio dad stays there yeah right now he does right right so when you were saying dad and stepdad two different people got it Milton Jerry who's my dad I got it I'm I'm slow but I'll eventually get there thank you I appreciate that all right so I'll do the forms for you to get back over there all right so that'll I think that clears up that and I also wanted to so do you okay do you ever have in your possession you're not a convicted felon because uh and I already know because that was one of the things he told me so you um do you have do you have these guns ever well not that one because that's hers shotgun okay you ever gone you ever have the other guns anywhere the night the girl got shot yeah my dad was running around and he thought the car was going to come back and I told him just get inside grabbed it up from him and I fit it back in the holster which comes oh this one with the holster okay so let me ask you this because part of what they're going to do with the processing is um they'll swab all the guns um just because they want to make sure this is a standard procedure even civilians know will occur when guns are involved pinchaw admits to having several guns in order to distract them from looking for others that they weren't involved that's just standard practice everybody does that so you're either Prince or DNA is going to be on this gun yeah okay so you'll have your your stuff on this gun and you're saying that's the only time that you've had when have you have you ever had any of these other guns at any other time other than that night this one of little boy had no Apartments my homeboy took it wrong and it was just been at my house this one yeah and if it's sitting out where I don't want it I'll move it okay but it's not mine okay not yours isn't registered to you yeah no yeah yeah okay but I don't I don't think anybody you don't even have to register you can do that so okay okay all right so you lived on the West Side your whole life and you already said that's my first so I wanted to have you so you've been out there for a while yeah you know that area Town um your whole life I'm gonna ask you about a couple guys that I'm trying to identify you ever seen any of those guys that was staying with me that's his cousin Carlos this is Carlos yes you know these guys all hang together that's Carla you know Carlos they uh not me oh no but I'm just no not with me um um I'm trying to I'm trying to sort out some stuff okay so this guy do you know him have you ever seen him before I think I seen him and Carlos calling them they hang arounds so so many boys at a time in London time but do you hang out in London Town you don't well yes changed a couple names okay um do you know where this is there's a very isolated Cemetery on the west side off of Old Middleburg Road here is so like this is 95 Old Middleburg comes down here and then it comes up then this is a it's a very isolated Cemetery that's off over there you know where that is this is okay here this is a mint right here I printed this one out to show you um or to show anybody that I can try to here's Wiley on Middleburg Road it goes um you know across 295 and then you would you would turn down this road here to try to get to get back there there's a lake over there you can see it from 295. there's a church right here and it I mean it's very very isolated over here I have no idea about the cemetery but I know there's a little farm right there when you go over the overpass a farm that looks like a farm like oh no I explain it okay I don't know if you coming from her alone per se and go over like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah right hey guys so her long would be like right here it's the next one up so if you came down like West Side Baptist Church is here you came down her long Middleburg over there yeah do you know have you been Have you ever been to the cemetery now you've never been to the cemetery sir anytime ever in the last year no does this look familiar at all to you no nowhere looks like awesome it is yeah just different angles because sometimes people you know look at it differently in the in the light when you take pictures that's at night time okay so you never been out here no okay so I'm I'm working um a homicide that occurred um here at this Cemetery in February okay back on the 5th of uh of February this year where this kid here this this guy I'm hearing that he does all kinds of stuff he's into dope and he tries to rob people break into houses all kinds of kids are crazy and all whoever hangs out with Carlos this guy that's their image right there okay so you know who Carlos is yeah and you but you you've never seen this guy has this guy this guy that has he ever tried probably because I think Cross Creek but I don't remember him this is Cross Creek right right like that would this guy have ever contacted you I mean probably through Carlos but we haven't like talk talk okay has what has he ever reached out to you in any way at all through somebody to try to meet with you to has this guy here ever tried to rob you no no okay so this this guy's never tried to run has this guy ever tried to I can't do nothing to me this guy has he ever tried to use a gun on you yeah he never did nothing to me man never tried to shoot you never tried to Jack you Hinshaw gives a rapid succession of Lies denying that he knows the victim or has ever been to the cemetery multiple witnesses can disprove this nothing at all no sir you're sure I'm sorry because I'm trying to find out that's that's just what I'm hearing and I guess and that is the boy though that he always saying rest in peace who's saying that whoa I think I seen him posted before but I don't really for taking the IG stuff like that what's the IG what do you mean Instagram oh my bad yeah yeah I'm old I'm sorry dude I'm sorry man you gotta I don't know man I'm still living on a mice to base world I mean he always post group pictures like huh this guy does Carlos yeah when's the last time you saw Carlos before we moved a breaker so about a month ago okay where'd you see him at oh is it apartment complex right there on records okay um where is that right there by the Walgreens in Publix on oh yeah yeah 103rd yeah yeah I'm thinking about the other end like by Wilson and all that but straight uh south of that like 103rd okay yeah so these dudes are are you know potential I mean I I'm not posting so what are they saying pictures I mean I know his dirt this guy Carlos yeah he's doing the same type of time I'm guessing you're saying he is yeah I mean I'm not trying to put words I'm just trying to I want These Guys these guys what I'm hearing is that that's what that's what happened and I'm just trying to get your side that's why I want to talk to you because Levin said you know was working on the on the stuff and I said man because I've been trying to um talk to a couple people that are out there what's that what's my side about what though about this guy here if he ever tried to rob you oh hell no man he never never pulled a gun on you shot at you have you ever and you said the only time anybody's ever shot in your area was the other night the night you've never been shot no no well have you ever been shot at nope okay this dude here has never shot at you no sir and he never pulled a gun on you nope and tried to kill you no I'm just saying if somebody tried to pull a gun on me I mean I know what you what you got to do yeah um but this kid here little red you heard that name that's what he says on IG yeah that's it that's this guy a little red Marquis Smith okay you didn't and you don't think you've ever seen him before I mean I mean maybe you've seen it with them right but never seen him in the fact that this dude tried to Jack you no okay never happens you never saw and you never been out to this Cemetery so this guy so the people that are telling me that you are out here minding your own business and this dude tries to Jack you out here that ain't right been out there man you've never been here no okay so I think they got like on all this okay so you're but I need you to be 100 honest with me and I'm not saying you're not but I need you to be 100 honest because you we're talking about my life here right exactly yeah yeah exactly yeah I don't get what you're talking about well I I'm just I'm being completely straight with you okay I'm trying to find out if this guy ever tried to rob you or shoot at you I'm sorry this guy upside down I'm sorry this guy I'll Circle himself which is this guy when's the last time you saw this guy maybe with Carlos okay okay well not since then because he's dead he was shot and killed multiple times at this Cemetery oh I know he did because Carlos always says posting about it yeah okay but I ain't know about how he got killed or anything okay but I didn't hear that he used to rob a lot of people yeah oh it's everywhere everybody knows he's got a long criminal history so he can look all that stuff up okay so well all right let me grab one more thing I'll be right back you want some water or anything can I use the bathroom yeah yeah absolutely and then I'll look really honestly have a couple more questions because I just gotta I want to grab one more thing off my desk the detective has gotten Henshaw to lie repeatedly about knowing Smith proving he has something to hide and informant has stated that Smith has previously stolen drugs from Hinshaw and um yeah you bet yeah it works cool are you the only person I'm talking to yeah unless you've got someone else I'm talking about I'm just I'm wondering because I had so many guys yeah yeah well those guys were so we'll run to the restroom we'll come right now your phone's Running Man oh I don't know it's probably mine yeah probably my wife's going are you ever gonna come home no the answer is no never yes it's just a few minutes actually yeah before we finish a couple things all right your phone number um how long have you had that phone number to be honest okay um [Music] you do not know how long six months year a week um yeah so your numbers change yeah um so you don't know how long you've had that phone number no okay no idea so I will um we'll we'll I'll pull your um well not they've already um detected was already working on all the um cell phone stuff because that's just the investigation too is to find out where people have been because all they're all all the cell phones say that um any of the past numbers that you have which now they'll just throw out a net will they will they will the any of those phone numbers put you at the cemetery no no okay okay no phone number's gonna put you on I don't know why you're trying to put me in this position man I'm not playing with my life I promise you I'm not here it's got me terrifying right now because you don't even know who you about to get me mixed up with you got me snatched up from the streets like I did something Henshaw is trying to deflect their questions while at the same time fishing for information about why they chose to bring him in for questioning yeah yeah it's pretty serious yeah and so and that's what I'm saying that's why I'm trying to give you a chance to talk to me so and and here's where we are with this so this I'm TR I've been I can't put any words in your mouth because I don't want to do that because I don't want to speak for you and legally I can't tell you what to say I would never even remotely do that with anyone I can't do that I've been trying to give you afford you the opportunity to tell me the truth that's it the truth about this I didn't have nothing to do with that and you need to stop putting that on my name man it's just you and I here what are you worried about your name because it's me and you I'm not going out there and telling anybody I'm not going out the street I'm asking you to kill somebody uh I'm trying to ask you about this because here's what here's my concern okay this is cell phone ain't gonna go to it okay none of that nothing will ever come back that will put you here in the cemetery no sir and this kid trying to rock you hang out with okay okay so what I'm saying is if anything ever does I don't get a chance to come back and talk to you again this is my chance and your chance all I really only honestly in my job all I do is I um I just find facts uh wherever the facts are wherever they lead me to I find the facts that's it I talk to people um there's a lot of things forensically that happen that you can't manufacture you can't make up you can't um you can't enhance they just are what they are and so what I do I try to get ahead of all of that stuff and talk to people and give people the for the people the opportunity that I would want somebody to give me their side of what happened there is no side to my story okay there's a story for me do you know why then and I'll just ask you this and then and if you want to rethink and tell me something that's fine if not and there's really nothing else for me to ask you can you tell me why you're you're gun and what gun the 357 that's not mine okay do you think your dad killed this guy no okay all right can you tell me why then you just give me anything give me an explanation that gun killed this guy there is no doubt there it's it's at a hundred percent it's a provable commodity so that gun that's in your house that's in your possession it's not in my in your house that that 357 revolver is in your house and that kills this guy now what's that it's a house that we ran out okay so let's knock it technically so what we're going to do is and we're going to find that all of that is I'm gonna find who's at that house on this day that killed this kid at this Cemetery that's easy that is that is like the easiest thing that I do and so are you telling me and that's what I want to know is that's why I'm asking I'm not trying to pin anything on you I'm trying to ask you for an explanation because I don't know I don't know this kid you know being mean to you bullying you you're saying you don't you've seen him but you don't know him you've never been here this kid never tried to rob you this kid never ever ever attacked you did anything to it but yeah you're a gun you're a gun my gun kills this dude you're seeing my gun but it's not my gun the gun that's in your house at 357 that's in your house and always got friends that stay over so you think that's what I'm asking you so are you telling me that one of your friends none of my friends did nothing Hinshaw has placed himself in a difficult position he denies having anything to do with the crime but can offer no other reasonable suspect in his place if he does try to pin the blame on someone else he runs the risk of them giving the police more evidence that would solidify his guilt well you are saying you're gonna have to because I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna find out who was in that house it's a very simple procedure we'll find out exactly who's in that house that day I will find out everyone who's at that house would it would it surprise you to tell me and not having to carry around the 357 never would I never even think about even dealing breakfast on my dad and taking his gun my dad he's an elder he don't get about the bed yeah okay yeah yeah and I'm not I'm not saying your dad did it um that's why I'm asking you but would it surprise you to know that I've that in the last few months that I've already talked to several people okay would that surprise you no it wasn't the whole year what's that you said a whole year right this was February and it's now August so half a year roughly six months that I've been working at this since I got called out there that evening and that and that in doing cell phone searches and in doing video surveillance and doing all the other things that we do on our end would it surprise you that I've already come in contact with other people and they've told me what happened would that surprise you surprised me about what about what happened I don't don't want to tell me what happened I don't know what happened I mean honestly you you don't know how to explain that you're at this Cemetery this kid gets shot and killed with your gun come on now one thing give me give me I haven't how did that happen you're playing with my life right here I'm not playing this ain't playing I'm not playing yeah I'm taking you I'm just I'm not saying man-to-man I'm asking a question yeah how does your gun how does your 357 kill this kid give it explain it figure out who was at the house done what I'm telling you when I'm saying I'm gonna do those things the reality is that's already been done okay that's already done I've already I've already accomplished all that I did all of that before I was ready to talk to you that's why I didn't step to you a week after this yeah when I knew what was going on well did you know that I have been watching you since February did you have any idea you have no idea you have no idea I know that because I'm really really good at my job so I'm telling you you don't you can't offer any kind of an explanation as to how your gun the gun that you say isn't yours but it's in your house that your dad who is an elder who is doesn't move around and I ain't did nothing and you didn't do anything and you didn't do that and you can't can you I mean can you even imagine how it happened what do you mean like give me something who took your gun and went out and did this I couldn't tell you right and then it's not my gun who took the gun that's your father's that's in the house that you live at and that you were living at that you were happy and that you were at this place and that you went to the cemetery and then you came back home how did that happen it's somebody in your house I'm not there here's a way to verify if you're telling the truth because this I know I have a I I have this information on February the 5th who was staying in this house this is the easy way right now for you to tell the truth who is staying at your house I'll give you an easy day you can tell me who is staying in your house we'll just say the month of February because I know I already have that record who is in your house in February my dad that's the only person yeah that's the only person that was staying in your house is the only person that came and visited you that hung out with you that you brought back to that house that was it I don't need it sure you do you absolutely do because you're actually a really smart guy yeah of course so you do understand but you're trying to make me say something about a day that I'm not even thinking about what you're thinking about now because we're sitting in a room and I'm talking to you but I gave you I gave you the opportunity to say not even you can't even I get that let's don't let's don't hold yourself to a date I just say in the month of February Valentine's Day what about any time in February who's at your house it's just my dad that's it so because I just took them in but itchy when did when did he begin staying with you because I know this I've already done my homework I couldn't tell you when I just know he went to the hospital from out of my cleaning and then I let him move in after he was in the hospital yeah right yeah what was he in the hospital for uh broke his hip yeah and by the way how is he doing you're doing all right nobody he just broke his other help it must be the health center so so in my house what's that in the house yeah yeah and did you um so in the month of February other so somebody you do you think everybody's over all the time yeah so do you think somebody comes into your house takes your dad's gun goes out to this cemetery and shoots and kills this dude and then brings that gun back to your house and puts it back in your house and they'll tell them man who would do that all of henshaw's denials are falling flat as the detective chips away at his story who honestly if somebody people get rid of guns when they kill people yeah so you're trying to say I wouldn't be smart enough to do it no I'm saying I didn't you give me give me a reason as to why I can think of one reason yeah I can think of a reason why that would happen but I can't tell you what to tell me I I just want the truth I want you to tell me truth I haven't did nothing okay so you were you've never been at this level never no you have never ever been to the cemetery you did not in any reason this guy did not try to Jack you he did not try to shoot at you no and you did not in any way take care of my dad's guns you don't even care your dad's gonna no that 357 has never been out of your by you out of your dad's house no okay that's it that's it okay so this is our this is our last time yeah I am but I don't know why because I I haven't lied to you okay okay so there's no reason for you to change that story ever there's no reason for you to change the story not at all there's no reason at all for you to then come back tomorrow a week from now a month from now and say okay of scare detective Reeves here's why I didn't want to tell you because you're the police even though you're super nice you're not bullying me you're not beating me out you're not threatening me but I didn't want to tell you the truth here's the truth all I can say is let's figure out who's been was in my house whatever day that is it took your gun your the gun that is your dad's gun out of the house you can ask my dad I don't even touch it again okay that's not me then and do you know that you can tell about so you said correct me if I'm wrong that the only time you have you handle that gun was the other day yeah when she got shot my dad came out the house with his gun and he's old I touched the gun and pitted back in the holster and put it in his bed and said Dad I'm calling the police right just stay in the house that was it away from the window I'm paying a gun right here that's it okay so the when when when you find a mixture of DNA old new Young all that kind of stuff it's crazy stuff you've seen TV so there's not going to be anything else on there shouldn't be well you shouldn't is a little different than what you're saying new and oh well you only touched the gun the one time no you only tested one gun to one time yeah okay that's it yeah that's it that's it you didn't do this no he had no reason to do it and it wasn't that the guy was bullying you or threatening you or tried to shoot you no sir no okay anything else you can think of oh yeah and you don't know about the phones um but it's okay because I do because we've already been working on those and we'll be able to um present all of the present that information yeah we have the information we just we'll have to present that yeah okay and and no you can't even fathom a reason with your gun come on you're not lying to me I'm not gonna lie to you yeah I got a life to live I ain't got time to play what do you mean I'm I want to go and get a word just like I do on a daily basis so whatever helps you helps me yeah I would think so do you sell dope I used to well I know I know I'm talking about I'm not the dope police you know that yeah that's not this ain't the dope police office you're serious than him yeah yeah because if I was a adult police guy I'd have a beard and you know a t-shirts and skinny jeans on that's what the dope police have um but I don't care I don't care but I'm asking you do you still do you still Dabble you sell they used to okay I used to as in not not this minute because you're here no I last week last month a couple months ago Henshaw avoids giving a straight answer about his drug use which is as good as admitting that he is still using this important it's important because all that's about your credibility yeah because again what I told you I've been because something came forward and I've been watching it that's why I'm telling you this is important so when I ask you a question nine times out of ten I already know the answer to it okay because I've been doing this a long time and I respect that and I appreciate that you haven't been disrespectful in any way at all and I hope you'll never take me as being desperate no no I don't I don't know so you uh so again I know you used to give me a what's the last time you think sold okay now what's typically what you sell what anything you don't sell anything I know that I do what I tell you to get my bills to you I understand that I'm not judging you I'm not enjoyable details paid yep and you don't dabble anymore for a little bit until your bills are done what do you normally sell they try to say I sell heroin I ain't trying to say I'm just asking you a question just man-to-man Harold okay anybody mad at you anybody anybody do you think make up a lie on you I mean yeah well if you ask me that if you ask me that well I'm an ass a lot of times so there's some people that are mad at me but for the most part and No One's Gonna making up a story that I was out of the cemetery and some tried to try to do right now I'm working and hanging out by myself is because a lot of your friends ain't your friends man no they're not they're not just found out the other day when I have my homeboy and I had a baby and we're getting shot at and maybe he's got something to do with it it's just I don't know I'm not I'm not I don't have enough on that case let's say this let's say you went out you didn't you did not go out to the cemetery at night and you did not there was nobody else out there with you and I have not talked to anybody else let's just let's pretend that okay um you feel you feel me you know where I'm going with this you don't believe me are you trying to say I've been there I'm saying you're telling me you weren't here yeah and what if I tell you that I've talked to somebody who said you were there are they would those people be trying to do something to you they got something against you that's what I'm trying to ask you when my phone boy Julia was found dead in the house people blame me and I had to deal with that [ __ ] your name no your name ain't come up on that no I didn't come up to y'all right yeah your family and all that [ __ ] you know what I mean no why do they think you had something to do with it and just because we're even came from college and he has pounds of weed and I was doing my thing and they thought I set them up for the week but they didn't know I was doing my stuff yeah they thought I would just have to issue and I know for a fact that it was his sister that had somebody shoot up my house this last time no when Julia died oh okay but I wasn't staying in the house you weren't even there yeah I wasn't even there nobody other than well you weren't so you're on this last time over off at your house on Woodcrest this last time you're inside the house you hear the gunshots yeah or you were outside yeah yeah nobody else ever pulled out a gun on you before never and in the time you've been selling no one's ever tried to Jack you I know sir put a knife to me one time okay well that's a pretty big deal you'll know when you're selling to the well you won't know you you won't know when you're selling to the police you can do it in front of you yep well you know we got new rules oh damn I'm just I mean I can't tell you all of our secrets that would be terrible wouldn't it I don't dip a dabble no more yeah yeah um but the police never pulled out a gun on you no no I know that yeah I know and um so there's no reason so I'm trying to trying to find out and you're saying my dad has a good one was there that's a hundred percent okay that's a ten thousand and here's let me tell you one and I'll help you I'll give you that here's the deal on that so the gun was um uh analyzed and from the other night because that's part of our process everything comes in we analyze it just in case it was used in any other commission and then we give everybody's guns back to them that gun this dude oh it's one of the bullets they kill they killed one how many I mean we didn't have anything to do with it right oh well you we're talking but you're trying to say that I did so well yeah but I'm just asking you why why what when you shot and killed him come on okay all right all right well I guess and uh so this is it that's uh last time we had a chance to talk okay I hear you I hear you all right let me get the rest of the paperwork together and uh um and see if uh Levitt what he wants now the stuff that that's not yours and you you willing to talk to me afterwards and keep me updated because you put me in this yeah and I want to know now well I can't one of the ways I'm not saying like like I can't tell you about who would do some slimy [ __ ] like that right yeah yeah I promise you'll know yeah absolutely yes yes yes but I just can't talk to you about open investigation you understand that yeah okay all right so the stuff the guns that aren't yours I can't release those to you well you gotta call them stepdad because he worried about his shotgun is he okay and your your stepdad is Milton yes sir but your dad uh Jerry senior is that you says the 357 this is I'll run out there is he at home now yeah okay were you at home oh okay okay but is he he's at home and he can't what I'm not going home what's that well I'm not going home you're not going home is that where no I'm saying you're are you going back to the house yeah so I'm gonna go I'm gonna go I'm gonna go talk to him you're going to work yeah yeah you think they'll give me a ride to work yeah Henshaw tries to treat the police as a taxi service and ask them to give him a ride to work and somehow manages to get them to agree okay support your dad okay uh I will check with them and I know these guys are going to give you a ride that's a promise I'm promising you these guys will um will take care of you so let me see what else detective Levitt needs to do okay what's Milton's number when you get home three three four oh yeah good call 3953 and that says 12 gigs I think 16 now I'm not sure and his 357. I mean yeah yeah you've got the house yeah uh uh 904 [ __ ] I just got one of them damn just fine yeah okay sure um you have to ask him when you get there all right all right ask about work for me please all right work there you go nice one I'm not sure if you really reading it here with Ray right now and stuff with detector Breeze but these I don't know a lot about the case and all the stuff I'm just kind of helping him out and all that stuff because his guys are out on another case right now so uh he's trying to help you out here man yeah you're drowning you're liking this you're out here in the middle ocean right now ground and he's throwing in all the lock preservers he can he just can't I can't it's not about the gun we already know about the gun all right don't worry about the gun right now okay it's not the gun it's about what happened out there what happened I don't know I wasn't there well there's a lot of people right now that he's talked like I said this happened back in February yeah and he's talking about people he does that's why he's been here exactly and every question he's actually he's already known the answer okay and there's a lot he has of asked there's a lot he has on purpose we're not calling you a liar I'm not saying you're liar in spite of what he tells Hinshaw the detective is calling him a liar they have evidence and nothing Henshaw has said so far gives him any reason to believe he is innocent I'm just saying you're not telling us everything that's what he's trying to do is go back to the day go back to that I don't have it because they got your gun there it's not my gun I understand it's your desk I'm not worried about the gun let's forget about it what we're worried about is what people are saying that happened out there and stuff your involvement and we're trying to get your side of the stories or something that I said to this guy rob you for you to do whatever happened and all that stuff he's trying to I say it you're in this motion he's throwing you a life preserver man he's the one you grapple that life preserver pull you up keep yourself from drowning he's not doing it you're drowning I'm telling you just want to laugh for what little I've heard right here a little bit I knew about the case you were you were sinking fast compared to what other people are saying their stories make more sense y'all gonna go off of that we go off of everyone's story and not only just stores this is the evidence like he's saying that stuff doesn't lie that's the actual stuff that's scientific stuff that doesn't go away and I'm not doing nothing about touching the gun the other night once at my house or the girls got shot up and my dad had the gun yeah exactly so like I said he's just trying to help you out if that's what you're going to stay with you had nothing to do with it but you got all these people are coming and saying these other things it's going to be their word against yours so why is he acting like I'm like I'm about to go to work where what y'all trying to say I didn't I did it I'm not saying that maybe other people are well you all got to bring them people in and talk to them he has already brother EO has already and they can say he says she's added bro I he's just like I said he's just funny and I guarantee it's a whole bunch of kids if I ain't mistaken because look at the group you hang around with why would they have some reason to [ __ ] throw you under the bus hand no idea I mean he asking you're saying no there's no reason for anyone to be throwing me in no wheel wheels no nothing I can say guys before or jacked or anything like that so from being on Cross Creek you know all the kids be around watching me sell drugs and wanted to be like you and then we don't be their friend then so Liam I like that yeah he's just trying to help you out man he's not trying to give you up or anything he's he's throwing you that life that's right and I will out of the mix well what you said isn't helpful what do you or what you say you're saying I've been there no reason no one's you're trying to say I did it that's where you're kidding at and I didn't do it y'all are looking all in the wrong places and I don't want to talk to you hostile like okay I respect that and we talked for hostile or anything I just I don't know man now y'all got me worried about what's going on in my life and I ain't even did nothing all right okay just like I said I just won't come and let you know he's trying to help you out yes sir and all that stuff trying to get your side of the story get through this one but obviously there's not not your side of the story dude I wouldn't do nothing like that okay all right like I said eat and all of them you probably will get another opportunity to talk to you and all that stuff that's why you want to get everything we can now why wouldn't we if we if I'm believing here well he's got to go and do what he needs to do now and also all right so what y'all doing with me huh checking with Levitt right now all right amen okay so based on the information I have and the witness is that I've spoken with they're being arrested tonight for tampering with evidence that's what you're being arrested for tonight to anything that's what that's what it came straight forward I appreciate it I appreciate you telling me the information that you told me okay all right um yeah absolutely that's why I came to tell you that yeah if you're being arrested tonight for tampering with evidence okay any connection with this all right okay I can't hit anything I can't I cannot charge me with tampering when I haven't even that was the first thing I said yeah that's the first thing I came and told you was based on the evidence that I have and the witnesses that I've talked to all that will be disclosed to you yeah um you're being arrested tonight for tampering with evidence just tampering with evidence that's what you're being charged with tonight yes sir okay that's where you're being charged so far quick tonight okay these guys are going to take you next door can I get a cigarette yeah yeah please yeah yeah I can do that yep appreciate you all right stand up damn man what I don't know huh I don't know the details of any of this stuff man two little ones control Freight forwarders don't get [ __ ] up foreign will stick to his story they will use the evidence they already have to proceed with an arrest thank you for watching if you like this type of content and want to support the channel there is a patreon link in the description below you'll be able to watch videos with zero ads and some that are too controversial for YouTube and you'll be supporting the channel at the same time thanks again for sticking around and I'll see you in the next video