okay i believe we're going to go ahead and start it off thank you everybody for putting up with our technical errors and difficulties here um we're going to start off obviously this is a news conference to talk about planning efforts on behalf of the city for the upcoming gatherings that we expect on the 22nd of august uh sometime in the early afternoon we will begin uh with amy spatelnick she's the executive director for integrity first america she will be followed by eric ward the executive director of western state center portland mayor ted wheeler will then speak and then portland police chief chuck labelle will follow up we ask you please hold your questions until afterwards and then we'll have a little bit of time to take some questions um and we'll do that as as quickly as we can so without further ado let's go ahead and start this news conference amy spatelnik it's all yours thank you so much look i don't have a ton uh to add uh beyond my remarks earlier but i will just reiterate some some key points i think obviously my role here is to help contextualize what we have seen in portland and what i we expect to see in portland in the national context and i think it's so crucial that we understand it as such that the violence the extremism playing out on portland streets are sadly not isolated incidents but are part of a much broader national and frankly global crisis of extremism it's been it's the natural culmination rather of months and years of disinformation of hate of conspiracy theories that have been churning and increasingly mainstreamed in so many ways and while the ways in which this extremism manifests from large-scale events like charlottesville pittsburgh or el paso to events uh on streets like what we've seen in portland and other cities like berkeley and beyond to the record level hate crimes it's important that we not separate these events that we not separate these various forms of extremism because and rather see them as part of the record level um domestic terror extremism and hate that we're seeing in this country um obviously there's so much to be done on so many levels of government from the private sector and from the non-profit space my organization integrity first for america is a non-partisan c3 that has chosen to pursue accountability for civil litigation we are suing the two dozen neo-nazis white supremacists and hate groups that orchestrated the violence in charlottesville four years ago with trial in two months um and i think that matters because accountability has been in such short supply and so as we go into this weekend it's so crucial that we put a fine point on the urgency of accountability when it's been so lacking on the importance of understanding how these extremists operate um of not creating false equivalencies of not um allowing these extremists to make their message increasingly mainstreamed in the ways that they have in recent years and rather that we make crystal clear that they have no place in our communities in portland of course but of course around the country as well as we've seen uh what happened in portland really just be a reflection but what is happening in portland really serve as a reflection of um this broader crisis um with national and global implications so i'll leave it there and pass it to my friend eric ward um and happy to take questions later thank you amy it's such a pleasure to be with everyone today and thank you for attending my name is eric ward i'm executive director of western state center a national civil rights organization based in portland oregon that works with communities in our region and organizations nationally to respond to hate violence and intimidation i i also uh laid out my remarks uh this morning at at the rally uh but i will this uh this afternoon just revisit some of the points that i think are critical for us to understand as portlanders uh as oregonians and as americans it is that uh we know from prior anti-democratic mobilizations in portland that the majority of attendees do not reside here but travel to the city to engage in political violence this will be the case again on sunday attacks on our civil institutions haven't stayed within the portland city limits over the last five years has portland has been left largely on its own to contend with this political violence we have begun to watch it ebb and flow across the states today we don't merely speak of mallior in portland oregon we now talk about creswell and a mayor who recently resigned because of pressure from far right paramilitary organizations like the proud boys and others we speak of southern oregon and government officials who have been threatened and harassed school board members who have had to cancel public meetings and of course the attempted uh insurrection at the oregon state capitol it is important for us to understand right that these attacks must be responded to and we have to understand that our response can no longer be limited to portlanders having to wrestle with what is a national and state moment bigoted and anti-democratic groups want to sow chaos to promote their dangerous and exclusionary agenda as an alternative to local government we need to understand this is not merely combat between counter protesters and a authoritarian insurgency but that the target is to undermine local governance these groups benefit from a perception of lawlessness and fear and we must understand that that is exactly what is intended to be spread this weekend as i said earlier in the rally violence at these events isn't a bug it is a feature the burden of responding to political violence as i said before can no longer be limited to a handful of leaders in a handful of jurisdictions such as portland oregon multnomah county and the metro region it is time for county officials from around the community to begin to take responsibility it should be noted that many of the agitators coming into our communities do not reside in portland that many of the leaders come from surrounding communities and we need those communities to step up communities that benefit from the economic lifeblood that is portland oregon portland isn't an island and it is time for surrounding counties the state and the federal government to stop treating it as an island if portland is to be treated as an island we should no longer be surprised when portlanders begin to act as if we are on an island it is time for real rapid response intervention from the state and all levels of the federal government not just the kind of intervention we've seen in the past i'm not here to relegate this to a conversation merely around criminal activity we have to understand that these incursions are attempts to take advantage of the crisis and opportunities that portlanders face each and every day this is about developing a larger set of initiatives to prevent attempts to undermine local democracy in oregon and across the country democracy is under assault this crisis requires urgent actions and deep investment western state center believes in a statewide pro-democracy platform to strengthen local democratic institutions and civil society to withstand these attacks for example we believe state government should be exploring several actions convene as stakeholders convene stakeholders from across the sectors to investigate and share best practices and policy reforms to combat the rise of anti-democratic activity in oregon devote resources to state agencies to better equip them to face challenges from these political moments of violence send key public outreach professionals from crucial state agencies to communities facing these rallies like the one portland faces sunday we must strengthen paramilitary laws we must also turn our attention to the increased harassment and violence towards journalists the state needs to explore laws that provide better protection to those who simply work each day to tell portlanders and oregonians the stories and the news of the day we must protect and support public employees who are burdened by increased intimidation and physical threats including establishing a cross-jurisdictional local government task force to analyze threats regularly and coordinate responses to anti-democratic organizing we must encourage information sharing those targeted portland have often broken existing laws and rely on the lack of coordination from municipalities to continue flouting portland's laws values and norms finally we must expand and refine efforts at the department of justice such as creating a desk at the department of justice to focus specifically on groups who seek to create political violence in our community now i'd like to pass it over to mayor wheeler thank you eric and i want to thank both amy and eric for their comments both this afternoon as well as earlier this morning i appreciate your presence here and your important perspective well good afternoon everyone and thank you for joining us we are here today because as you're well aware of the city its public works bureaus and police bureau are certainly aware of and we're preparing for a variety of potentially large gatherings being planned for early afternoon this sunday august 22nd it is our understanding at this time that the gatherings will take place at tom mccall waterfront park i want to be clear no permits have been requested or issued for these events to prioritize public safety city council offices and city bureaus are working collaboratively along with local and regional law enforcement partners to prepare for these events it's certainly my hope and expectation that these events will remain peaceful if there are those who engage in non-peaceful behavior we want you to know and understand that the city the police bureau will respond to the situation to the very best of our ability given the current legal and logistical constraints i think folks are clearly aware that the city of portland has long embraced and continues to support the most cherished of american values for generations and that's the right to assembly and the right to free speech but as we see have seen in the past these events can be subverted by people who come with the intent to commit either acts of violence or destruction or sometimes both to those people who want to engage in this kind of behavior i say this do not show up if you do show up and engage in criminal conduct you're subject to arrest and prosecution we're coordinating our efforts with other law enforcement agencies and the district attorney on this front as police commissioner i've been meeting regularly with police and other bureaus to identify tactical responses i can tell you that the police are developing an appropriate plan with adequate resources to prepare for the events we have many eyes that will be trained on the events we'll make arrests as people leave the park or later if they engage in criminal conduct also given the behavior that we've seen from these groups previously there is often a desire to come with the intent of committing violence or engaging in fights people should be aware as the chief had said in his statement last night people should not necessarily expect to see the police standing in the middle of the crowd trying to keep people apart people need to keep themselves apart and avoid physical confrontation we are dedicated to keeping the peace and protecting innocent bystanders from any potential harm i also want to take this opportunity to acknowledge the potential risk these situations create for our city's employees and our portland police officers and other law enforcement agencies and i want to thank them for their service as amy and eric had mentioned earlier today community partners and leaders along with other elected officials business leaders community leaders joined me in a virtual gathering to unite together to denounce hate and violence and to instead choose love we've united across differences before to make the same call to action to cast a side political differences and declare and reaffirm our shared values for this community that we all love so much after 18 months of deadly pandemic and economic recession wildfires and other environmental crises this is the time to support one another there just is no more room for hate or violence in portland we reaffirm portland's community value of passionate but peaceful demonstrations and we reaffirm the importance of free speech destruction of property is not free speech assaulting each other is not free speech we are dedicated to keeping the peace our ask is simple we're asking you to choose love please join us and with that i'd like to turn this over to portland police chief chuck lavelle good afternoon chief good afternoon mayor thank you to all for being here today i want to reiterate much of what the mayor just spoke about i know that everyone has been asking a lot of questions and we have to be mindful to provide information without giving away tactical plans so thank you in advance for understanding that the rallies planned and waterfront park raised concerns that people may choose to confront and fight with one another similar events have happened here and people have used or threatened to use weapons against others i share community concerns about violent confrontations police officers are sworn to uphold the constitution and all people's rights to participate in free speech and assembly and we take that pledge seriously however acting out violently or causing injuries to other people are not constitutional rights violence is avoidable and people should choose to act peacefully even with those they disagree with people can and should keep themselves apart and choose to avoid physical violent confrontations my message today is simple if you're considering coming downtown to fight threaten people or participate in violence stay away if people do engage in violent activity or property destruction they face arrest and prosecution the portland police bureau will monitor this event and will make arrests for crimes as resources allow you should not expect to see police officers standing in the middle of crowds trying to keep people apart remember arrests do not always happen in the moment after past violent events we have consistently conducted follow-up investigations made arrests and forwarded cases to the multnomah county district attorney for prosecution just because arrests are not made at the scene when tensions are high does not mean that people won't be charged with crimes sunday is an all hands day i'll be working and the portland police bureau has canceled days off all available personnel will report for duty i want to publicly thank all of our employees for coming in especially those who will be working on their days off i truly appreciate their dedication and resilience and i'm grateful to their families for supporting them on another day we're asking them to come in for work as i said i can't talk about tactics but want you to know community safety and the safety of portland police officers is paramount we'll be providing real-time community safety updates via our twitter page throughout the day on sunday you can find us by searching the tag at portland police please monitor that channel for updates thank you all right thank you chief lavelle we'll now open it up for questions and i believe most the reporters know that the rule here just raise your hand in the participant column so i can call on you and i will start in the order that i see them jonathan levinson opb who's your question for and what's your question i have one for the mayor and for the chief if i am allowed um mayor you have said in the past that the community should take action against anarchists and quote uh you said make them hurt a little bit should the community take similar action against groups like the proud boys and what's the difference if not from my perspective this is about behavior uh from my perspective is the police commissioner it's not about politics it's about actions people have every right to express their first amendment rights they have access to free speech uh free speech no matter how abhorrent is still constitutional but the minute somebody crosses the line and engages in either criminal destruction or violence that is no longer free speech and i would expect that they would be arrested and prosecuted regardless of politics so just to follow up the community should not take action against groups like the proud boys what do you mean action well this this was your this was your words back i think in march yeah that was in reference to a specific question about an individual from i believe new york state who had rampaged the oregon historical society uh it had come to my attention that that individual was a student at a private university in the area and my statement at that time and i stand by it today was if that individual was in fact convicted of that crime it was my hope and expectation that that private university would in fact expel that individual that's what i was referring to i didn't mean anything physical just to be crystal clear if that's what you're asking uh okay jonathan we got to move on here fair enough i had i had a question for the chief no okay there you go the law's laid down um all right liz burch coin yes yeah my question is for the mayor uh first off i'm wondering if you can name these groups that you guys anticipate are coming i'm also wondering what the concern on the strain on police resources if you've had conversations with the governor about calling in the national guard yeah thank you that's those are questions most appropriately answered by the chief chief i'll turn it over to you yeah we're clearly um not the organization we were a year ago as far as staffing goes we have about 145 less people but within the resource constraints we have we are preparing and working with partners to include oregon state police and local partners from the metro area to to put together the appropriate resource package for this weekend so i guess to clarify have any conversations happen with the governor about calling in a national guard no not at this point for for this particular event all right next question alex zelinski from the mercury who's it for hi yeah my question is for the mayor um you know we've been at this juncture several times before before a um a planned protest like this i'm curious kind of what has changed in the way that you prepare for these kind of events and what have you learned over the past four years or more of these taking place and and holding events like this to prepare yeah thank you for the question number one it's maintain the balance protect peaceful uh demonstrations those who are gathering to exercise their constitutional rights to free speech and assembly but for those who are engaged in either criminal destruction or violence neither of which are free speech hold them accountable and where i think we've improved is not just here at the city of portland with the police bureau but also working with regional and state law enforcement partners working with our local district attorney uh working with others in the community we have uh i think done a better job of identifying those individuals who are specifically engaged in criminal conduct and holding them accountable in fact i think there are something like 50 people that are currently uh um being held accountable for uh felonies uh we've seen a significant decrease in mass gatherings and those are gatherings that are defined as as more than 50 people we've seen a significant decrease in mass gatherings that have led to either criminal destruction or violence since the beginning of the year and what that tells me is uh that holding people accountable is working test risky uh with the willamette week what's your question for uh well first i don't think uh mayor wheeler or chuckle or chief level i don't think you answered liz burch's question i was hoping to hear your response she had asked for you to name the groups you anticipate showing up can you answer that and then i'll ask my question chief i'm i'm going to turn intelligence questions over to you yeah i don't know that's appropriate for me to name the specific groups and we have i think maybe other people coming from um out of town that have different affiliations so i don't want to necessarily label them but um we've seen here many times groups with different um you know political ideations or affiliations come to portland and have um you know violent clashes or interactions with each other and i think you know to the extent that we can urge those folks not to come here and participate in that um in that type of activity you know that's what we'll continually try to do okay thanks and then for my question uh it either of you uh would be great if one of or both of you would answer um for the groups that are coming to portland do you consider those to be domestic terrorist organizations you know proud boys and other groups for example you know for for my part it's probably not appropriate for me to label people in groups like there is a process for for those labels but it's not not necessarily my place to to place those on people yeah i'll take the swing at this too uh so being designated as a terrorist organization is a formal designation and that's beside the larger point that we're here to address today anyone who comes into our community and is spreading their hate their racism their xenophobia their white supremacists predilections all of that is very intimidating to people who are here particularly people of color it causes people to be fearful as we indicated this morning it's counterproductive it takes energy and resources away from people who really need help during this challenging time in our community and so our basic message to them is you're not welcome here if that is what your intent is period do you consider them to be white supremacist test we got to move on um we don't have room for follow-ups i'm sorry uh maggie vespa you have a question yeah this question sure thank you it's for the mayor and or the chief um it's in response to a comment the mayor gave earlier so maybe he wants to speak to it but mr mayor you said that people should not expect to see police keeping crowds apart and that people um need to keep themselves apart and kind of paraphrasing there it felt like a reference to the criticism that the city got earlier this month when a rally kind of played out and opposing groups did fight each other in the streets and we all have video of that so i'm wondering going into this weekend if these groups don't stay apart and there are physical clashes will police intervene this time if not when would they intervene i'll turn that over to chief that's a tactical question chief yeah i know it it's one of those things it's not necessarily the best tactical approach to have officers wading into situations where groups are clashing with each other um i understand the the optics of that but we have to make tactical decisions that put us in a position where we're likely to be successful in making an arrest or taking someone into custody and there are just situations where that's just not a feasible approach i mean to the extent that we can we will make arrests whether it's after something takes place or if it's possible to make one at a different time we'll do that there's been many instances from things we witnessed this summer where we've gathered information gone back uh done follow-up and made arrests and i think to the extent that we have the resources and ability to do our mission safely um that'll be the the priority for us okay three more questions i did ask when would they intervene i mean just kind of if it's an all hands on deck situation what is the mission then that you just said if people come on okay going on joe english k2 joe you have a question okay yes yes yes yes still here still here we got time yep okay what can you tell the public to calm their fears that this is the spark that's going to start another fire of 30 60 90 100 days of rioting uh in downtown portland so i'll take a swing at that first of all the community coming together like we did this morning and stating very clearly what our values are about our support for first amendment rights but our strong community opposition to criminal destruction and violence that's step number one step number two is holding people accountable if people cross that line into uh behavior engaging in either acts of criminal destruction or violence we should hold them accountable and holding people accountable has clearly made an impact as i say we've seen the number of mass demonstrations leading to criminal destruction or violence declined precipitously uh this year and so i hope that's a trend that will continue and the third part is uh just getting the word out that if you're somebody coming from out of our community with the purpose of coming here and intimidating people or spreading uh hate or vitriol or causing fear we don't want you to come here we're unified as a community against that kind of behavior we got one more question that will go to zane sparling with the tribute zane can can can the mayor answer the question that was not answered a few minutes ago before you yelled at us that wasn't me i'm talking to sam can we can we allow for the questions to be answered instead of getting yelled at uh i'm happy to answer the question what what was the question i didn't i didn't hear the question i think it was i think it was i think it was liz that got yelled at by sam before uh i was talking to somebody else jonathan uh so lit liz what was my question too by the way i'm sorry liz i didn't hear your question could i hear the question we'll get to zayn after that i think it was maggie vespa's question and i think she was asking when the police would intervene between the groups right maggie yeah i appreciate it and you know mr adams you are you know in your role with livability you're welcome to answer these questions too i was just asking what is the mission that the chief laid out when would police intervene that was part of my original question that wasn't answered but again mr adams please feel free to speak to it mac maggie thank you um and and i appreciate the question i i will turn that over to the chief because i think he can better answer the tactical question of when officers would get involved chief yeah thank you maggie and uh mayor wheeler you know i think really it's it's situation dependent it's hard to say in this situation that situation i think it's where resources allow us to intervene and have a you know a good likelihood of being able to either make an arrest to protect someone who is being you know who has maybe a life safety type issue going on in in a conflict that might be a situation where um you know officers would um take steps to intervene into something right there but there are many situations that it's not practical or effective for officers to wade into when you have groups clashing particularly groups that sometimes are armed who come there with weapons and things of that nature and then you're sending an officer into that particular situation where um you know it's just not a safe situation for anyone in that particular moment so i mean it's very hard to answer in specifics but i would say it's really situation dependent resource dependent and things of that nature all right and you correct me if i'm wrong cheap but it's something that's why the incident commander is in there to make those decisions at the moment when they they monitor the whole situation so uh no pat answer ahead of time zane sparling last question of the day thank you for your time um one thing i'd like to say is i've been covering these protests for a while the only time that opposing groups have not clashed violently is when there's a large police response i'm thinking about delta park just last year some of those protests in august of 2019 my question for you uh mayor wheeler is is violence essentially inevitable can we put down the fig leaf and admit that violence is going to happen and there will not be police preventing those groups from clashing and and how does that feel to know that that violence is is almost on the calendar now well as as you're aware uh we have hundreds of demonstrations over the course of any given year and very few of them actually result in any violence or criminal destruction this weekend is one that we're certainly concerned about that's why we've done a lot of preliminary planning that's why we've been reaching out and collaborating collaborating not only with other government partners but with the private sector with our nonprofit partners uh civil rights organizations and groups community leaders faith leaders to do the best we can as a community to define ourselves not as a community of clashes and violence but as a community of collaboration and partnership and love and ultimately i think that is a message that will prevail in terms of your question is it inevitable um there is certainly some internet uh back and forth uh social media to suggest that there are people uh some people who are coming specifically for the purpose to engage in a street fight and what we're doing is we're telling them hell no if they if they come here and they engage in that kind of activity we're going to do the best we can with the resources we have available to hold people accountable and tim before before we close this out um i i also do again want to acknowledge my appreciation for amy and eric i'd like to give them an opportunity if there's anything that's been said or asked that they wanted to reflect on i'd certainly like to give them that opportunity okay amy eric you have any uh any other remarks no i i would just say you know quickly just in in summary i i think that there are really three key points that that all of us should remember uh heading in into this weekend and what i think is is an evolution right the the events of of two weeks ago in portland the events in in los angeles uh uh that occurred suggest uh an evolution in uh tactics in terms of political violence and all of us need to be aware look first we have to be cautious of the political theater yes there is political violence but the goal of the political violence is to draw a larger narrative and all of us have to to remember that the the political theater that we see right is to provide a visual backdrop to this idea of portland being a city of lawlessness and and we have to do a better job of interpreting that for uh uh oregonians and and making sure those were the victims of that violence right business owners uh folks who are trying to get to and from work each day that we're also telling their stories and what it means for them the the second is is like we just have to admit and this is hard for me uh as a person who leads a a national organization on this issue what what i'm trying to say right is that there is not one city in this country on its best day that could carry the burden of this challenge on their own and you know that that's not because i don't think portland uh could be the exception what i'm saying is there is no city currently that has the answers to this if los angeles and the county of los angeles cannot figure this out right it is time for state and federal governments to to really lean in the the third is this right that uh uh everyone on here knows i i have my critiques right of of law enforcement but i also think it's important to be nuanced and to be nuanced means to understand that this is not merely a criminal matter right and it's simply unfair for the rest of the city to also shirk its duties and to say this is up to law enforcement to solve it's a broader issue we're weak not just because of the demonstrations but broader challenges and we need help to address those broader challenges so that portland is better inoculated and so other cities are as well right to an attempt to subvert local democracy those are the three things that i would say they may not be uh the most exciting things but it's time for us to get back to the nuts and bolts of governance so that we can respond to this issue we have to stop our own political theater okay amy if you don't have any closing comments we will wrap it up for today amy you good i have all good i wholeheartedly agree with eric as always okay all right thank you everybody for attending if you have any follow-up questions please go ahead i think most of the reporters have follow-up questions a lot of them i mean you guys jonathan answered questions all week jonathan we're done is there going to be another time we can ask the mayor questions so tim tim yeah um look let i can stick around for a bit let's it you okay there you go what's what's your question tess um i think there's a few people who are before me they want to go i don't know what the order is jonathan you seem you seem intent on asking a question what is your question uh sure i'll ask uh the mayor i mean last year after the august 22nd violence downtown you seemed in text messages to be a little dismissive of the violence saying it was a product of living in a twitter sphere you saw it more as a comms problem do you think you took the danger posed by groups like the proud boys as seriously as you should have absolutely i took it as seriously as i should have we i don't know how many press conferences i held how many community events i held how many times i stood with leadership in the black community and other communities of color to denounce violence to denounce criminal destruction so i absolutely took it seriously and i continue to take it seriously and today's events underscore that once again yes um this question is more for chief lavelle i'm just wondering what the plan is now that rrt is dissolved are those same officers going to be responding or does that change up your entire plan of how you approach this are you using cert or mobile crisis units what does that look like yeah well not having um the rapid response team will force us to make some changes on how we respond to just major crowd control events like this may end up being uh that team was highly trained for responding in a coordinated manner to all types of civil unrest but all of our portland police sworn personnel have undergone crowd management training and they continue to get updated training a lot of them have experience in working in uh coordinated teams we deploy mobile field forces which are typically officers who come from patrol and then fill fill a role in crowd control um but i just want to reiterate uh we're not going to deploy people to to stand you know in a line or in the middle of violent groups to keep people apart um where it doesn't make uh tactical uh sense to do so and are you are you receiving assistance from oregon state police in the sheriff's office um we've had conversations with them they'll be providing assistance where they can i don't want to say specifically what roles they're filling but uh we've met with them regularly this week to include this morning and uh we're reaching out to get uh whatever assistance that their resources will allow and uh that's part of the planning that we do for all of these types of events okay let's share some time with other reporters bridget chavez you haven't had a question yet your hands up yes thank you this is for the mayor or for chief lavelle what do you have to say about the low morale among ppb officers and also earlier this week we did a story with frustrated business owners trying to get police response and we were told the problem people are experiencing with what seems like very limited police response is going to get worse you guys agree with that and who is to blame for that that this problem is going to get worse let me jump in on that um i did see the survey that was done by the men and women of the portland police bro i take it seriously uh it's not my place to tell them that uh the way they feel isn't right they feel the way they feel and they've reflected the low morale that they feel uh i have heard them say that they don't feel supported so my message back to them is then let's put the plan together i heard earlier this week the chief beginning to outline a specific strategy around how we improve recruitment how we improve retention i'd like to be able to bring to my colleagues on the city council a proposal that they can agree with that improves the staffing situation and the deployment situation in the bureau i want to make sure that the bureau not only has the staffing but the resources the tools and the training that the bureau needs to be successful and none of that should stand in opposition to our other goals around improving the police bureau improving transparency and accountability i i don't see those objectives as being mutually exclusive and i look forward to working not only with the command staff but also the union and the rank and file to uh to improve the morale our our city employees should feel uh supported they should feel proud in their positions and uh in the case of the men and women who serve in the portland police bureau they should feel that they will return home each evening to their loved ones and so i look forward to working with them and i appreciate that they took the time to very clearly uh put together their concerns and and that goes for the rot as well i appreciate the follow-up uh conversations i've had with the leadership of the rrt and i believe we all ultimately want the same thing we want a police bureau that is properly resourced with the appropriate number of employees with the appropriate tools and training but it that is also responsible uh and accountable to the community it serves and reflective of the community's needs thank you for that mayor um okay very truly last question jack forrest you've had your hand up for the longest time thank you for being patient yeah thank you uh this is a question for the chief uh some self-proclaimed leaders of the quote unquote summer summer of love event have said that they're actually moving the event uh from the waterfront and i wonder how that changes the response to this and whether that's something that you guys are tracking i don't know about that particular event so i don't know if i'm prepared to speak on it specifically but we do track um different things on social media and on different platforms just to get a sense of how we need to prioritize our staffing and our work but that particular event or group i'm not um specifically informed enough to speak upon okay thank you thank you all for being here again reach out to me with any follow-up questions you may have thank you