My dad is A RETIRED POLICE CHIEF. >> [screaming] >> YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL FOR A FELONY FOR BATTERY ON law enforcement. You can call your daddy to get you out. >> On July 7th, 2024, officers with the Orlando Police Department responded to a call of a fight at a bar. After the officers arrived, they had multiple people yelling, so they called for backup to help with crowd control. >> No, no, NO, NO, NO. MY DAD IS A RETIRED POLICE CHIEF. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S what you're saying. It don't mean nothing. If I'm saying she has her own I'm trying to call somebody. You can't tell me I can't get her phone to call that number. >> No, you can't. >> For what? HOW IS THAT OBSTRUCTING THE OFFICER? >> Because because because you were interfering with someone who is currently being placed under arrest. Very simple. >> Let me get her cell phone so I can contact somebody else. >> She's an adult, adult. She can contact somebody herself. >> You seem like you have a >> So you're going to you didn't get that stuff? But when we're done with >> Okay, well, can you get that for me so I can contact somebody? But what are you investigating? >> I just got here. >> What are y'all investigating? >> We got called here. Thank you. Have a good night. >> You seem like you have some sense. Like I told him, this is what y'all be trying on these civilians that don't know what the [ __ ] going on. Wrong me. >> First off, we got called here, so >> give a [ __ ] >> I know you don't. That's okay though. >> Anyhow, like I said, I'm not drunk. And she shouldn't have bumped into her. She shouldn't have put her hands on her. I told them I wanted my shoes. Now y'all sat in it all this extra ass [ __ ] because she want her stuff. MY SHOE WAS BEING BROKE BECAUSE ONE of their security guards swung on me. Make it make sense. >> So when you're done with this >> So why can't I contact somebody? >> You can call anybody >> You can CALL WHO YOU WANT. >> YOU CAN CALL ANYBODY YOU WANT. No one said no one said [laughter] you're not allowed to call nobody. But we're not giving you her phone unless she says she can have it. >> I'm saying. They won't let me get your phone. >> Once we're done. >> That's what I'm saying. And that was the one that was sitting there swinging on people and all that. She swung on her when they had her in the So, why isn't she under arrest for investigation? >> said she's uh concealed carry and took off in the parking lot and [ __ ] >> So, why isn't she sitting under arrest? Why isn't she under arrest? >> This is where the distinction between being upset and interfering with an investigation becomes extremely important. The woman repeatedly argues that another person should be arrested because she believes that person swung at someone first. From her perspective, she's demanding what she considers equal treatment. But, the officers are focused on controlling the scene, separating people, and conducting their investigation in the order they believe is appropriate. She also repeatedly demands access to the other woman's phone so she can contact someone. The key point is that we cannot determine from this transcript alone whether every legal element of obstruction was ultimately proven. But, we can see why the officers viewed her continued involvement as interference. If police are actively investigating a fight, when does persistent questioning become actual obstruction? That's the line this encounter is about to test. >> GIRL, MY PHONE is dead and they won't let me get your phone. So, she's in handcuffs. That means one of y'all can go in her bag and get HER PHONE. MIA. WHO? THE POLICE OFFICER. SO, Y'ALL NEED TO FIGURE that out before I go ahead and put a goddamn complaint on y'all asses. Y'all need to find her cell phone. I asked you to stop doing that You think you're above the [ __ ] law and you're not. Him, he seem like he got [ __ ] sense and you seem like you got a goddamn sense. You can contact somebody. Why the [ __ ] is she not in handcuffs? Why she not in handcuffs? They had her in the same. She swung on her. So, why the [ __ ] is she not in handcuffs, too? Shut the [ __ ] up. Nobody's talking can see that. You want to the front of the number? >> YOU DON'T HAVE THAT energy now. You were swinging on her and you know you were. Don't You're not a At the end of the day, get it under [ __ ] wraps. You got a [ __ ] just like I do. Anyhow, like I said, why is she not being detained? But why is she not being detained? >> I'll give you a great reason why. I'll give you a great reason why. >> Yeah, then she put her hands on you when THEY WERE PICKING YOU UP. >> HEY, I'LL GIVE YOU >> SO WHY IS SHE NOT DETAINED? >> I'LL GIVE you a great reason why. >> No, I want to talk to the officer. Well, what the [ __ ] you got here at the same time to do? I'm not understanding it. >> Cuz when we told you when we talked to you about interfering, we are we are >> HOW AM I INTERFERING? >> YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT LETTING ANYBODY TALK. IT'S FINE. >> NO, BECAUSE YOU SOUND DUMB AS [ __ ] >> You're not letting anybody talk. >> YOU SOUND DUMB AS >> I focus all my energy on you. That's why >> YOUR ENERGY ON ME FOR WHAT? WHEN I'M TELLING YOU SHE HIT HER. YOU SOUND DUMB AS [ __ ] >> THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. >> LIKE A dumb ass. >> Thank you. >> She put her hands on you. So isn't it a simple touch a strike? ISN'T THAT A BATTERY, TOO? ISN'T THAT A BATTERY, TOO? GET OUT OF HERE. THEY WON'T LET ME GET MY PHONE. THEY WON'T FALL DOWN CUZ THEY DEAD ASS WRONG. HIT YOUR ASS. WHATEVER THE [ __ ] YOU IS, your ass ass dead ass wrong. >> She's She's supposed to go to jail. She's supposed to go to jail. So. Just let her do it. >> I told her she put her hands on you. >> Nobody wants to go to jail or anything. >> I'm yelling at the wrong person. >> [music] >> I said that We said that multiple times. Yep. I tried to explain what interfering is and she wouldn't even hear it, so. >> The tension is now completely obvious. The woman isn't backing down. Instead, she's repeatedly challenging the officers, questioning why the other person isn't in handcuffs, and insisting that she has done nothing wrong. But there's an important legal and practical issue here. Officers at an active scene don't necessarily have to make an arrest simply because a bystander believes another person committed an offense. They have to assess the available evidence and make their own decisions based on the circumstances. Meanwhile, the officers are explicitly telling her that her continued conduct is interfering with what they're trying to accomplish. Whether that decision would ultimately survive legal scrutiny would depend on the specific facts and applicable law. But one thing is certain. Arguing with officers is not making the situation calmer. Would you have kept demanding answers or walked away and let the investigation play out? >> Yeah. >> So, let me get her phone, please. Can y'all get her phone? Why can't you get her phone? >> We'll do it when we're ready, when we're ready to. This is not your time. This is our time. >> Yes, it does. YES, IT >> HE IS RIGHT THERE. >> Do me a favor and get her phone so I can contact her mother. >> That's the private property. He's here to to mess with you. No. >> That's the person back there. >> That's all I want, her phone. >> Well, you can't get it right now. >> Why can't I get it right now? How is that obstructing what's going on? She's in handcuffs. >> Because we are doing our investigation. It's on our time now, not hers. Yes, ma'am, it is. Yes, ma'am, IT YES, I DO. YES, I DO. YES, I DO. EXACTLY. NOPE, THAT ONE'S STANDING RIGHT THERE, BUT THAT IS A SERGEANT, TOO. YEP. >> Because I want to get her phone to contact somebody. What is wrong with y'all? >> And there it is, the moment the entire situation changes. After repeatedly being told to stop interfering, the woman is placed under arrest and officers identify the allegations as obstruction and resisting. Notice what happens next. Instead of the confrontation ending, the questions continue. She immediately demands an explanation, repeatedly asking how she obstructed the investigation and insisting that she did not resist. This is exactly where body camera footage can become extremely important. Rather than relying solely on competing statements later, investigators can review the sequence of commands, the person's movements, the officer's responses, and what happened immediately before the arrest. But viewers should also separate an accusation from a conviction. At this point in the footage, these are charges being asserted by police, not proof by themselves that every element of the offenses was established in court. >> Yeah, that's it. There we go. Put your hands behind Put your hands behind your back. Stop resisting. >> Stop resisting. >> There you go. Now your hands are finally behind your back. >> What do you want me to do? STOP. >> [screaming] >> RIGHT THERE. THERE WE GO. YOU ARE NOW PLACING YOU ARE NOW placing under arrest, ma'am. Thank you very much. >> For what? >> Obstruction and resisting. >> How am I obstructing? How am I obstructing? >> Yep. >> How am I obstructing? >> We'll explain your charges We'll explain it completely. >> How am I obstructing? How am I obstructing? >> We'll explain your charges after we leave. >> How? >> We'll explain your charges after we leave, ma'am. >> How am I obstructing? And he just did that cuz he know y'all there acting like you don't know. The [ __ ] is wrong with you? You're saying I'm obstructing because I tried to get her [ __ ] phone. I asked y'all for her phone. You can put my phone in my purse. >> You want to sit down or no? >> Can you put my phone in my purse? >> I will. You want to >> No, not my time. >> You want to put your shoes on or no? >> That's what I'm not understanding. >> put your shoes on or no? ALL RIGHT, I'M DONE. You know you can walk down there barefoot. >> I don't understand what the [ __ ] is going on with you. >> There you go. Since it's on her time, I got to put her phone in here right now. >> Now the arrest is becoming even more complicated. The woman continues saying she can walk and that she hasn't resisted while officers repeatedly tell her where to go and command her to get into the vehicle. This is a classic escalation point during an arrest. The officers are attempting to gain physical control and complete the detention while the person being arrested believes the officers are using unnecessary force or misunderstanding her actions. Those competing perceptions can quickly turn a relatively short arrest into additional criminal allegations. The transcript then moves into an even more serious development because officers say she kicked and scratched them. That's significant. If those actions are supported by evidence, they can create separate battery allegations against law enforcement rather than simply being part of the original obstruction dispute. Did the arrest become more serious because of her actions after the initial confrontation? >> It's not ON YOUR TIME. WHAT THE YOU THINK THIS IS? This is dummies. Can you stop my mouth from being so tight? What the do I have in my pocket? >> It's primary. >> That's what I'm saying. What are you taking me for? >> We're taking you for >> Uh blondness, I think. >> That's vague. >> Vague, sorry. You're obstructing and resisting. >> How is it obstructing and resisting WHEN I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING? You told me I didn't resist. >> It'll be in your charges in a little bit, MA'AM. >> I CAN'T I CAN'T WALK. >> YOU CAN WALK. >> I CAN'T WALK. LET ME >> WALK. WALK. >> WHAT IS >> WALK. >> I CAN'T [screaming] I CAN'T >> GET IN THE CAR. STOP KICKING RIGHT NOW. YOU WILL GO IN. >> I CAN'T WALK. >> GET IN. GET IN THE CAR. GET IN THE CAR OR YOU'RE GOING TO BE HANDCUFFED AND PUT IN. >> WHAT THE [ __ ] WHY WOULD YOU LET ME EVEN BE >> SO YOU'RE GOING TO call your dad? >> Uh Uh >> Hey. Is it You taking it? You got her? Is that her? She actually tried. I think she's got me, too. I can't tell if it's sweat or not. This guy's hurt. Oh, that Leo. We already had her. I mean, she kicked me, too. So, yeah. That's what you heard me say, "Don't kick me." You know what I'm saying? You're already going to jail for a felony, correct? For battery on Leo. You kicked me and scratched him. Yes, ma'am. You kicked me. You're going to You're going to jail for a felony for battery on law enforcement. You can call your daddy to get you out. >> This is the biggest legal escalation in the entire encounter. Officers now tell her that she is facing a felony battery charge because they allege she kicked and scratched law enforcement. Whatever argument was happening about the original bar fight has effectively taken a backseat. The case has now expanded to alleged conduct directly involving officers during the arrest. Her response is to challenge the allegation and ask what she supposedly did. But, according to the officers, there is an injury to a security employee as well, and they say photographs will be taken. Those details matter because physical evidence, photographs, witness statements, and body camera footage can all become important when determining what actually happened. And notice the warning from the officer. He tells her she can call her father to get her out, but that does not change the legal process or the seriousness of the allegation. >> All right, a supplement on it. Are you good? >> Yeah. >> Uh sorry. >> Do you need to talk to him? >> Yes, real quick. Yeah, um he has an injury. Just wanted to notify you on it. >> Is that a security guy? >> No, DJ. >> DJ? All right, we'll take care of it. We'll be right back. >> From her or him? >> Yes, from her. >> From that? >> Yeah. All right, he's notified. He's notified. I think that's her. It's just the hair. >> She doesn't want to tell me or not. >> Yeah. >> So, let's put the entire encounter together. According to the footage, officers responded to a bar fight where multiple people were yelling and additional officers were called for crowd control. During the investigation, this woman repeatedly questioned why another person was not being arrested and repeatedly demanded access to that person's phone so she could contact someone. Officers warned her that her continued behavior was interfering with their investigation. She was eventually placed under arrest and accused of obstruction and resisting. The situation then escalated further with officers alleging that she kicked and scratched law enforcement. The final portion of the footage states that she was transported to the Orange County Jail and charged with two counts of battery on law enforcement officers and resisting officers without violence. The transcript does not provide a final court disposition or sentence so we should not claim an outcome that isn't shown here. What we can say is that a chaotic bar incident ultimately became a criminal case involving alleged conduct toward police. Do you think the line from demanding answers into interfering with the investigation or did the officers escalate the situation unnecessarily? If you found this case as shocking as we did, make sure to hit that like button, share your thoughts in the comments, and don't forget to subscribe for more jaw-dropping courtroom breakdowns.