Was that you smoking at your place this morning when you got home? >> Um, >> relax. Calm down a little bit. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I smoke quite a bit. >> And again, I don't care. >> Um, gunshots. You said there was only one shot fired, right? >> Yeah. >> Why'd you only pull the trigger once? >> On December 14th, 2018, in East Lancing, Michigan, Ivan Keenir was brought in for questioning in connection with the death of Isai Baroness, who had died as a result of a gunshot wound during a fight outside an apartment complex. Spoiler details are in the video description and the full results of all charges in the case are laid out at the end of the video. >> Um, obviously it's a pretty serious uh incident that happened last night. I don't think it it started necessarily as a serious incident. Uh, I think it started more as kind of a mutual fight is what it sounded like. And like I told told Mr. this morning to think it escalated a little bit, but that's what I'm getting. So, now it's your turn. >> All right, let's start at the beginning. >> All right. So, I went out to the bar, Lou and Harry's with a few of my friends and some girls, uh, name her name's Hannah. That's like one of my good friends. Her house is the house where we were partying and everything. And something happened at the bar to where she got left somehow or she ventured off by herself and she was too drunk to I don't know but she got left at the bar. So these girls that she knew called me off her phone and hey we got Hannah. You guys are piece of [ __ ] for leaving her. Blah blah. She's so drunk anything could happen. And I'm just like uh I didn't even know she got left, you know. And then they they drop her off and they get out of the car. They're come up to the porch and me and my friend Cameron are sitting on the porch and they start yelling at us and like pushing us and stuff and I'm I'm I'm yelling back. I'm like, "Dude, my >> Who started pushing who?" >> Uh the girls that she was with. I don't I have no idea. >> She was kind of in the background. >> Me and my friend were on the porch and they they like jumped out of a car with Hannah, the girl that got left at the bar. Okay. >> And they were just screaming and hollering and all that. >> Who was your friend that was with you on a porch? >> Cameron. Petrosi. >> Cim. >> Cameron. >> Cameron. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And then uh and just arguing and stuff and I was like I I I either got a phone call or called my cousin and they were screaming and stuff and I was like, "My cousin will come out here and beat you up basically." >> Okay. >> And they're like, "All right, call your cousin." Just going back and forth. They ended up leaving and they took the Hannah's phone with them. >> Did when they were up on the porch, did they have Hannah's phone up on the porch or was it still out in the Uber? >> I am not completely sure about that. >> Okay. >> I I don't know. >> Fair enough. >> But um they took the phone and I I called them. I was like, "Uh, are my cousins are coming out here? You guys trying to fight?" >> So, you were calling Hannah's phone though? >> Yeah, they had Hannah's phone there. >> They picked up when you called Hannah's phone. >> Okay. And um they're like, "Yeah, blah blah blah." And >> when you say blah blah blah, >> like they they they were like, "Yeah, we're ready to fight." You know, just talking trash back and forth. >> Okay. >> And um so I had the phone's location. So I tracked the location. >> How did you get the phone's location? >> We we share locations. >> You do what? >> We share locations, me and Hannah. >> Okay. >> It's a iPhone thing. It just tracks your phone and >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, um I tracked the location. I went to uh I think Abbott Point or some apartment complex. And >> when you say you went there? >> Well, me I my cousin and my two cousins had showed up. >> Did your cousin meet you there? >> Yeah, she met me at No, she met me at Hannah's. >> Okay. >> House where I was still at. >> Okay. >> And >> And your cousin is who? >> Jessica and Angela. >> Angela, what's her last name? >> Kelly. >> Angela Kelly. Okay. Who's Jessica? >> Uh, that's my other cousin. Her last name is Kelly, too. >> Okay. >> But then, so they showed up there and I tracked the phone. They they pick me up. We drive over there and I call the girls and I'm like, "Yo, my cousins are here if you guys want to fight." >> So, it's you and two girls. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And she's like, "Yeah, we'll be right out." Blah, blah, blah. They come outside. They They uh start fighting. They don't have the phone. Mhm. >> They start fighting and like All right. So, this is like right outside the apartment, the whole apartment complex door. >> Mhm. >> So, they're fighting like right there in between the cars and everything and some guy like jumps over their a terrace or something. Uh like the first story patio just jumps over the railing, okay, and comes outside >> from from the inside of the apartment to the outside. >> Inside a apartment. I don't know if it's theirs or whose apartment it is, but he came from a apartment. Okay. >> And jumped over it and he starts like walking towards me and I'm like, "Oh, you want to fight?" >> And he like, he doesn't say anything. He just >> Big guy or little gay? >> Uh, he's probably my size. >> Okay. >> I'd say. >> What do you look like? >> Uh, Mexican with like longer curly hair. Okay. >> And um he jumps over the terrace and he doesn't say anything. I'm like, "You want to fight?" And he's like walking towards me and he's like he whips out what I think was a knife. Okay. >> And like swings it and I start I turn around and start running at this point like, "Hey, he's got a knife. He's got a knife." Blah, blah. Uh, and I'm I'm just screaming. I don't really recall. I was drinking, too. >> Oh, yeah. >> And uh I was running away and I think he got hit from the guy that the Steve guy. >> Who's Steve? >> Steve showed up with my cousins. I'm sorry. >> So I thought you said you showed up with your cousins. >> No, I was at Hannah's already. They showed up to Hannah's >> and then >> then we >> How did you get from Hannah's up to that gas? >> We drove I I jumped in their car and we drove over there. >> Okay. So, >> and they were It was my two cousins and that dude. >> Okay. Where does Jessica live at? >> Uh she lives on the south side. I couldn't really tell you the exact address. Do >> you have her phone number? >> No, I don't. Yeah. >> Where does Angela live at? >> She kind of just floats around. >> Is she standing up at King Arthur's Court right now? No. >> Okay. >> She's not living here really to the best of my knowledge. >> Okay. >> She just came back to visit type thing. >> Okay. So, big Mexican guy jumps over the railing, runs out. You think he's got a knife, you knife, you run away. What happens next? >> Uh, I think he gets hit. >> And like, cuz I'm I'm like the dude with the Yeah, the dude with the knife. >> Okay. >> And cuz I'm like running like kind of looking back. >> Who hit him? >> Steve. >> Okay. like with >> I'm not like I was it was I'm not really 100% sure. >> I didn't see you didn't see it. Did he punch him? Did he hit him with a beer bottle or what? >> I think he just hit him in the back of the head. >> Okay. >> As he was like as the guy was like following me. >> Okay. >> And then they like get in a standoff and I'm I'm like it was it was not like a real stand up but like they were like facing each other >> and he had the gun out. And >> who had the gun out? Steve. >> Okay. >> And uh the guy like >> Why did he have the gun out? >> Cuz the guy had a knife. >> You didn't see a knife, but you just thought you saw it. >> Well, I mean, I'm 90% I'm almost 100% sure. >> I wasn't there, man. I didn't >> I know. I I mean, I 100% thought it was a knife. I'm just saying that in case it wasn't. >> Okay. >> But I I was convinced it was a knife. I'm 90% sure he had a knife. >> Mhm. And uh the guy like he was like I don't I can't remember what he said exactly but he basically said stop I'm pretty sure and the guy went toward him some more and he shot one time and then I was like oh started freaking out. I ran and got my two cousins who were still fighting. I like pulled them apart >> and then we ran and got out of there. >> So whose car did you guys actually get up there in? >> Mine uh Jessica. Jessica was she was the driver or she just her car? >> It was her car, but uh yeah, she was driving at first and then I drove home. >> Okay. >> I don't know if that matters. >> Well, I'm just trying to get the nuts and bolts of it. So, Jessica drove all the way from Elm, right? >> Yes. >> Okay. And it was her car. >> Yeah. After the fight, after the the gunshot went off, you guys jumped back in the car. You drove behind the wheel to take off. >> Yeah. >> Everybody else is piled in. Yeah. >> Steve piled in, too. >> Yeah. >> Okay. What happened then? >> Uh we drove over to my granddad's house and uh everyone kind of split ways. My cousin Jessica left to I think her house. They stayed there and my cousin called me an Uber and I went at first I went back to Hannah's but the door was locked. So then I jumped back in the Uber and I gave him a $20 bill and >> What time was that at? >> Like 4 probably. >> Okay. >> Three. I'm not I'm not 100% sure the time frame, but uh I called um one of the girls that I knew was there a few times. They didn't answer. The doors were locked. So, jump back in the Uber and I get dropped off like right by my parents house and I just ended up walking home. >> Back to your parents house? Yeah. >> Were you there this morning when we knocked on your door? >> Yeah, I was sleeping though and they were unaware that I was >> Where was your car at? >> My car was at Hannah's. >> Still is. >> Is it? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Is that the silver Lincoln? >> Yeah. So, where where did Steve come into this? Where did uh how do you guys know each other? >> I I don't even really know the guy. I he I think him and my cousin date. I'm not sure what their exact situation is, but they're together. >> Okay. >> And >> did you bring your cell phone down here today? >> Where's your cell phone at? >> Uh it's at my house. >> Okay. I'm talking about the same Angela. >> Did you show the photo? >> No, I haven't got that for you yet. >> Okay. >> Is that Angela? >> That's your cousin. Okay. >> That's not Steve. >> Okay. Do you know that guy? >> Yeah, that's her uh first baby daddy. >> Okay. >> So, out of curiosity, why did you show up down there without your cell phone? He didn't have it at my office. No. Okay. >> I just told him to come right here. Good call. >> What was disgusting when you were driving away? >> No, I mean it was just kind of hectic and everyone was like screaming and like trying to tell me which way to go and >> just trying to avoid. Did you guys talk to talk to Steve about why we didn't pull the trigger or >> I wasn't really No, I just was like freaking out trying to get the get out of the situation. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, no, I didn't. I didn't. >> Where do we find Steve at now? >> I I don't even I don't I've met this guy probably three times. >> Where do you meet him at? >> In Mississippi. >> What brought you down to Mississippi? >> Oh, I got family down. I was just visiting him a few months ago around Labor Day. >> Okay. Did he come back with you or something? >> No. No. Him him and Angela came back. >> Okay. >> And he's living with her. >> I I I don't know. I' I've seen her. She's I've seen her like twice in the past three days. And that's the only time I've seen him in the last 3 months or so since I've been >> Why would she show up tonight with uh Were you guys just hanging out partying or what? I mean, I was partying and I my either I I can't remember exactly either I called my cousin Jessica. >> Okay. >> Or I was already on the phone with her and they were together. So that's how she got. >> So she just got kind of >> brought in. Yeah. >> Like out of the blue kind of thing. >> Yeah. It wasn't I didn't spe? >> Yeah, definitely. >> Where does she work at? Uh, she I she's I I have no idea. She's not like living up here, so and she doesn't have a phone. I haven't really talked to her. >> Okay. Where's Jessica at? >> Jessica uh Golden Trail. >> Okay. >> That's the last place she was working that I know of. >> Okay. But you don't know her phone number? >> Jessica's? No, not by heart. >> And your her phone number? I could probably I could probably get it when my parents or when my parents >> would you have an objection to us driving back to your place getting your phone so we can get your phone number. [clears throat] >> Um I have enough time to spend with you. I don't know what's on that phone. I mean you just want a phone number off it. >> Well then probably some text messages from about 2:30 on. >> There is no text messages. >> Phone calls, text messages, stuff like that. Uh where's your phone at in your house? Uh on the the bar. >> On the where? >> The bar. >> The bar. Okay. What kind of phone is it? >> iPhone. >> We We'll surrender it. I mean, if you're going to get a warrant for it anyway. >> Yeah, >> we'll surrender it. >> Um did you cover what happened at Elm? >> Yeah, it was what everybody pretty much said. Uh, >> what was the intention of going up there >> to their apartment? >> When you went up to 25 East, what was >> to They They said they were trying to fight my cousins. The There was two girls and they said they want they were down to fight. So, they were going to I was going to get the phone back and they were going to fight. >> But your cousins weren't at all place to begin with. Yeah, I was on the phone when those girls were yelling at me and I was like, "My cousins will like come out here and beat you up if you keep on like trying to put your hands on me." Because I wasn't going to hit a girl. >> Right. >> So, so you're Were your cousins at Elm Place when those when they dropped Hannah off? Hannah's your girlfriend, right? >> She's just like a friend. A good friend. >> But your cousins weren't there? >> No. >> So, you called them over there? >> Yes. >> They came over? >> Yes. You went up in to there with the intention of getting the phone. >> Yes. >> Because it's Hannah's property. But then also it was kind of under the impression that >> those two girls and your two cousins were were going to fight. >> Okay. >> And Steve and your cousin Ashley is one of the cousins that's going to fight. >> Angela. >> Sorry. Angela. Sorry. So Angela and Steve hopped in the car, too. >> Well, they them three showed up together at Hannah's and picked me up. and drove you up there in your car. >> No, they they drove Jessica's car. >> That's right. Your car is still back at Hannah as we speak now. >> Yeah, it should be. >> Did you know that Steve had a gun with him? >> No. >> When he pulled it out, where did he pull it out from? >> I was like running away, so I didn't really see all that. >> Okay. But you didn't know he had a gun and he was armed. Um, what kind of car does Steve drive normally? >> I have no idea. He's from Mississippi. I have no idea. >> You never seen him drive before? >> No. >> Okay. What does he do for money up here for a couple days? >> They've been up here for like two days, literally. >> Just two days? >> Two to three. >> Now, when you say they, it's him and Angela or they went up to somebody else, too? >> Angela. My bad. Where was her kid at during this? >> Uh, like last night. Are you saying Well, she's doing her thing in Mississippi. >> Oh, like last night when >> uh Well, I think they were with their dad. >> Okay. >> I'm not sure. >> I'm guess I I have no idea where her kids are. >> Okay. Um, what kind of When I talked to to Mr. White, it seemed like you thought they were on the way back to Mississippi. I I possibly >> and that was really me suggesting that this was time sensitive >> because that's where they're from. >> Correct. >> Yeah. Um and what if they were going to Mississippi, what would you lead to think they're driving? >> That like burgundy SUV. But >> what kind of SUV is it? You know, is it a Explorer? >> Maybe a Trailblazer maybe. But I'm not sure on that either. >> Where did he throw that gun out? I have no idea. >> You saw that gun on him when you uh pulled up King Arthur's Court? >> I didn't go to King Arthur's Court. >> Didn't you pull up to your granddad's place? >> Oh, he doesn't live in King Arthur's Court. >> Didn't you guys pull up there and split up ways? >> Oh, we pulled up to my granddad's but he doesn't live in King. >> Oh, where does he where's he stay? >> Uh on the west side. >> Okay. Where at? >> Uh Cleo Street like right by Ducas. >> Uhhuh. So, in the Kaggus when you guys all in the car and like you said, they're all telling you which way to go and you're like, which way I go? >> Do you remember which way you went? >> Yeah, I went uh down Chandler Road down >> north. >> Uh towards State Road. Yeah, towards the >> So, she made a left out of camp. >> And then I went to State Road. I went all the way down to Wood Road and then from Wood I went uh down that little side street that's like behind Court one by Walmart. >> Yep. >> So I went down that side street, jumped on Lake Lancing, and from Lake Lancing I I went um down Willow, I believe. >> Okay. And whose car were you driving? >> Just what kind of car was it? >> The It's a black uh I I don't know what kind of car it is. I know it's black. >> Two door or four-door? >> Four-door. >> Truck, SUV, uh car. >> Okay. Black car. You don't know what kind of car? No. >> Is it a small car or big car? >> Uh it's I'd say I think it's a Ford Focus, I think. >> Okay. >> If not, it's like similar size. >> Does it got a Mississippi plate on it or is it a Michigan plate? >> Michigan. >> How do you know? >> Well, she lives in Michigan. I think she lives on Mississippi. >> Angela, >> I'm sorry. Yes. >> Okay. So, you guys took Jessica's car. >> Was that red SUV at your granddad's? Cuz you said you guys split ways. >> Yeah. Yeah, it was. But I think it's been there the whole time she's been gone. So, I don't think she drove it down there. >> Okay. >> To be honest. >> Um, so would you would you think that Okay. So then when you left Grand Dads, Steve and Ash, I keep saying Ashley. Stephen Angela, sorry. Went one way. >> Jessica went her separate way. >> Do you know where Jessica went? >> I have no idea. >> But but she didn't stay at Grandad. She left. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> I >> Angela and Steve stayed at Grandad, you think? Or your shirt? >> Well, they they stayed there until I left. But then after that, I haven't >> How long were you there for? >> Maybe maybe 20 minutes. >> What' you guys talk about? Like, holy [ __ ] you just shot somebody. >> I didn't. I was just like freaking out like I I need to get out of here. Give me a ride. I need to go. Like this. I was scared. I am scared. >> Well, did you think he was going to shoot you next or something? >> No, I didn't think that, but I was just It was I've never experienced that, I guess. >> Okay. So, then you took Jessica's car? >> No, I didn't take Jessica's car. I my Angela got me a Uber to Hannah's house. Other than the doors were locked and no one was answering, no one was letting me in. And I ended up just giving the guy another 20 bucks and he took me to McDonald's in Okamus. >> Okay. Like Jolly Okamus area. >> Exactly. >> Okay. And you walked home from there. >> Yes. >> How how do you get a hold of Angela? Because we >> I don't talk to her. We need to establish >> defend your honor. >> She just happened to be with Jessica when I was on the phone with Jessica. >> How does Jessica get a hold of Angela? >> I don't She doesn't have a phone. Like I don't I don't talk to her. She liv She's been gone. >> Jessica and Angela. >> How do I get a hold of Jessica? >> Yes, sir. >> Uh I got her number. >> Okay. Do you think that potentially Jessica would have some contact information for Angela? I don't think >> other than that number that I gave you guys. I don't I don't that I don't I don't think she knows too much more about that guy or >> I don't think >> Sorry. >> Oh, I don't think Angel I know Angela doesn't have a phone. That's why she was contacting me on his phone. Do >> you have any pictures on your phone of Steve? >> No. Did you guys take any video of this last night? The fight either at place or up there. >> Ever been hanging out with him before and snapped a selfie with maybe Steve? >> I've only met him probably three times in his brief and we don't talk. >> Is he a pretty unpatient guy? Pretty intense guy. >> He just I don't know. He's I would I mean no. He just doesn't talk much and >> is he out of >> No, not really. >> Why does he carry a gun? >> I I do not know this guy other than literally small talk. >> Okay. >> Yeah. You ever heard if you did any uh shootings or anything like that down in Mississippi? >> No. >> Don't know a street ruff or anything like that? >> I I don't know anyone down there besides >> Everybody likes to talk. He like to talk about stupid. >> Okay. >> What's his street name? >> I don't know. >> Who does he go by? >> He either Frank or Steve. >> That's what he goes by. >> That's what he told me. >> Frank or Steve? Frank or Steve? >> Why Frank? >> I don't I have no idea. Okay. He got a tan under his eye. >> Yeah. >> Black guy, light skin? >> No, black. He's pretty black. >> Like dark black or? >> Yeah, definitely dark. >> Uh, dreadlocks. >> Yeah. >> Worn type of hoodie last night. Some type of hoodie. >> Yeah, something. >> Okay. >> How big is he? 6 foot, 6'5. >> Uh, he's bigger than me. He's probably like got four inches on me, I'd say. 6'2. >> About 62. Six six >> ripped. >> No, I mean he's definitely like it seems cut but not like >> like Yeah. That guy works out or anything. >> Okay. >> Cell phone. So, we're uh we'll run you back. I got a consent to uh search for him so we can grab your phone, get what we need off your phone and to give your phone back to you very quickly. >> Can I just I mean can I So wait, what's going to happen? I'm sorry. >> We're going to grab your phone. >> We're going to get what we need off your phone. I'm going to give you your phone back to you. >> Okay. >> If not, as Mr. White will tell you, we'll get a a search warrant for your phone and >> he's okay. I mean, I think he's worried about some very irrelevant things that I don't think we're looking for that can help us smoke in >> dude when I was doing the so so after the shooting to go and we canvas the the area right >> I had probably because you're asking people in apartments it's a very common thing to canvas the area Mr. >> [clears throat] >> I waited till about 7 a.m. to start doing that because I didn't want to start knocking on people's doors at 4 a.m. So >> at least three or four people's doors when they open them I'm just like >> yeah you know >> well you know you're small like that people have you know medical cards and when the one of the first things that's like you know I have coffee when I wake up they have their medicine their marijuana and it's like wow so I I but I like I said to him I said I'm not I'm not checking to see if you're a card holder I'm I'm trying to find out who who shot this gallery today. That's my problem I was trying to solve. If you got some pictures of you on your phone smoking some weed or whatever it is, and this is a picture of you on the phone shooting this cat here, then then you don't got nothing to worry about. >> Okay. Okay. >> Was that you smoking at your place this morning when you got home? >> Uh, relax, calm down a little bit. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I smoke quite a bit. >> And again, I don't care. Um, >> gunshots. You said there was only one shot fired, right? >> Yeah. >> Why did he only pull the trigger once? >> He's a big guy. I I think I mean I think he was just like trying I don't I have no idea. I don't know what his mindset was. >> Okay. >> Steve was pretty good. >> I couldn't tell you. >> Had you been smoking too? >> I I when they they got there and then we left basically. So I the only time I really had with them was >> the car ride from place up to >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The point or 25 east. During that ride, were they all over the road? >> No. >> I mean, she, >> you know, typical drug slanting college kid. >> No. >> Okay. >> Did you guys talk [clears throat] about what was going to happen between our place and 25 East? >> Uh, I mean, I I Yeah. I was like, these girls are going to you guys are going to fight these girls and then that was it and we're going to get the phone back. >> Okay. Now, when you say they had the phone, were they did they want money for it back or they want to fight for it? Cuz they knew Hannah. I don't I I don't know. That might have been an accident that they took the phone. >> Or do you think maybe Hannah just dropped the phone in the Uber when she was intoxicated on the way home? >> Possibly. >> Okay. So, [snorts] how did they get to a fight status? >> Well, cuz the fight had we were hot like at each other's necks because they were blaming me for leaving her at the bar and she the two girls jumped out and like started yelling and bushing. >> You never seen these girls before? >> Not that I not that I was a friend. Okay. >> Sounds consistent with what we heard. Yeah. >> From the other end, too, is that they brought Hannah home to the bar because they saw Hannah had Harpers and she was super drunk and they were there was apparently some guy talking to her or something and they thought maybe he was hitting on her and who knows what his intentions were. So, they brought him home and that ticked them off >> that she got >> they thought you had you and and maybe somebody else had had left her there and they kind of saw it as your responsibility as her boyfriend to make sure I'm not her boyfriend though. They didn't know that your boyfriend. So So they said that yeah, there was some some some [ __ ] being talked and it might have even gotten physical either at home and >> and then >> but yeah, when they left somehow Hannah's >> I don't know I >> was still in their Uber. >> Okay. and that you guys start calling it, they start answering it and it just [cough] so it's hard for us because we we really want to identify Steve, you know, we want to we want to we want to know his first and last name. We want to know if he's in the area still. If he's in the area, we want to try to go, you know, arrest him. If he's if he's fleeing to Mississippi, then, you know, we start wrapping up all of our police reports and maybe we have the prosecutor's office and hopefully get a warrant for his arrest for homicide and have the fugitive team or marshals go off. >> Do you think Steve still has that pistol? >> I I have no idea. >> I'm asking for speculation at this point. I mean, it's obviously 8 n hours after. Does he still have the pistol? >> I I mean, I doubt it. I I I don't know. I I couldn't tell you. >> You didn't see him throw it out the window and stay real? >> I didn't see him throw it on throw it out the window. I don't remember anyone rolling even down the window. Okay. >> Did you get to talk about getting rid of the gun? >> Uh, I mean I I didn't >> Was it discussed in the car? Refra? >> Not that I can I mean I it was pretty intense and I don't specifically recall that. >> Okay. How about at granddad's was the status of the gun discussed? Like, hey dude, you still have that gun on you? What are you going to do with that gun? >> I was like, >> [ __ ] dude. I didn't know you had a gun with you. I was I I >> Yeah, I'm just gonna I'm not going to have to answer that. >> That's fine. >> When you got to your granddad's house um and you said you wanted to go, how how did you leave? >> Uh Uber. >> Did you call ahead for the Uber to wait? >> I No, no, no. When When I got there, I was like, you need to either give me a ride or I need to get out of here. >> I'm not I'm not trying to >> How long did you have to wait for your >> Uh I I don't think it was more than 20 minutes. Okay. Where was everybody else at in that 20 minutes? You wait outside. You wait in the house. >> It was like back and forth. I was running in the house. I was >> Where were they were all in the house then? >> Every Yeah, they were in the house, too. Yeah. She cuz they've been staying They had for a second. >> And which house is that? >> My granddad's. >> Yeah. That's on Cleo Street. >> Yeah. For the three or four days or two days or however long. >> What's your granddad's name? Oh, >> Bill. Bill. >> Same last name. Yep. Kener. Um she's got some vehicles that registered to her on Cleo Street. >> Okay. We get anything else. Where were they staying at on Cleveland Street? Like in the basement? They up in a uh is it a multi-level house? >> Yeah, it's a multi-le house, but uh I I don't know which room they're staying in. Like probably the upstairs. >> Okay. spare a bedroom or like a >> Oh, like a a attic, I guess. >> See an attic? >> Not I mean, not like a stereotypical attic, but like it I don't think it's a room. It's just a >> You pull some damn >> No, you're a staircase and you go in there and it's pretty open. >> Is your grandfather around or is he someplace else? >> Oh, he's there, but like he he had a stroke and he's not like >> he's not mentally really there. Yeah. And >> who's taking care of him? Uh that the first guy that you the Luther the first picture you showed him. >> Oh, Luther's taking care of. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Does Luther live there with him? >> Yes. >> And he has nurses and stuff that come over and everything. >> So he you said that that was [cough] first baby [clears throat] daddy? >> Yes. >> Okay. She got four kids or three? >> Uh three. >> Okay. She's Do you think she's crashing there while she's in town from Mississippi? >> Uh I think she was I don't I don't >> What's your gut telling you? Are they here in town or are they so >> they mowed back to Mississippi? >> I don't know where they went, but uh I don't think they're there cuz >> I don't think they're >> But you got no way of >> She doesn't have a contact. The only number I have is that one number that I gave you guys. Somebody told you that that's how did you >> include that Steve's number? I'm sorry. >> Uh so like she didn't I I tried to call her phone a few times other than she was like I don't have a phone. Just call me on this number. >> Okay. >> And when you [clears throat] would call it she'd answer. >> I didn't I I didn't call and that and that's a Mississippi area code. 662. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I called it uh a few minutes ago and she didn't answer. Then I called this morning. >> Okay. Politically correct, I guess, or incorrect. But is is Jessica transgendered or does she look like uh >> Angela? >> No, she's she's lighterkinned. She's black. >> Okay. All right. There's nobody else in here. >> Lighter skinned or >> just white. [cough and clears throat] >> And they're actual sisters. >> All half. >> Okay. And there was nobody else up there other than four you and three of them. There was three girls and that guy. >> And the guy. Okay. So, basically four on four. >> Well, I wasn't planning on fighting. >> I'm not saying you were. Um, did anybody else come? Uh, anybody else out in the parking lot trying to break you guys up or anybody? I'm going to call the police if you don't shut up. >> Not that I remember. >> Okay. [cough and clears throat] You guys pulled Jessica's car in a parking lot. She pulled into a space or she just leave her right in the middle run it she leave the windows down and the car ro it >> no the car wasn't running >> no okay so you guys plan to be there for a little bit at least the plan be there for a little bit at least >> yeah I mean I mean no I just I don't think she want to leave her car running in an apartment complex >> somebody you guys were only how far away from your car were you >> uh well we pulled and had no idea so we we had to walk down a little and they came out of their apartment complex. We didn't know exactly like where they lived or anything. >> How close? >> Probably like uh uh probably like 100 ft >> for the find my iPhone got you within their uh share my iPhone. Got you within 100 foot. >> Yeah. >> That's how you figured out where they were at, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You and Hannah have your phone synced to each other's found my iPhone or were you doing the share my location? >> Share my location. >> Okay. So she can check your location, you can check her location. >> Yes. >> You guys are pretty tight. >> Yeah, we're pretty tight. >> All right. Have you talked to her yet today? >> No. >> Okay. >> So that's how that's how your phone with her is. You were just checking her location. Even though she's sitting next to you, you knew her phone was with us. >> Yeah. Cuz we had already been like talking. >> Yeah. >> When you went over there to Elm yesterday. Yeah. >> What time did you get there >> to Elm? >> Yeah. >> You go over there, right? car probably uh it was probably 8:30 >> and you parked your car on the rightway? >> Yes. >> Has your car been moved at all since as far as you know since you got there at 8:30? >> Oh, since 8:30. Yeah. I mean to rearrange cars and I I went to uh Arcadia from like 8:30 to 9:30 or or 9:30 to 10 or something just for my drink. >> Arcadia. >> Yeah. as a new plate. >> Okay. >> Michigan. [clears throat] >> Okay. So, you went there, came back, but you definitely did not take your car up to 25 East. Where did you >> Is your plan when you leave here to go get your car? >> Yes. >> Well, how about we do this instead? What's that? >> Well, you jump in my car and we're going to drive back to your house, grab your phone, drive back here. Um, and then I'll have somebody drive you from here back to your car and then by that time we should have your phone off whatever we need off of it. It'll be ready for you to come back and pick it up. >> Okay. >> As long as you don't talk about the case, you know, >> we don't have anything. When we walk out of this room, I don't think we got anything more. We'll talk for a minute if you want to wait out in the hallway. Sure. >> We're looking for anything that would lead to the identity, >> right, >> and location of Steve. >> That's at this point. That's I think we've we've got his version of the events of what he saw and what what happened and what he did and what was going through his mind on the way up there. You know, he admits that he's the cousins were looking for a fight. That was the plan, you know. Um >> Yes, sir. >> Yep. Is there somewhere I can talk to him real quick? He's got a couple quick questions that might be relevant. >> Uh well, you don't want to do it here. >> Audio video. >> Um thank you. [clears throat] >> And then we'll come back in here and and do I'd like to do that form in here on camera. >> Yeah, sure. Of course. Why don't um let me let me chat with the detective for a quick second. >> Just want to wait in the hallway. Oh, and then >> sure can wait. that >> do you want to chat on camera? >> No, let's talk. Okay. >> In the 2018 East Lancing, Michigan case, Ivan Keenir was charged with accessory after the fact to a felony, aggravated assault and assault and battery in the death of Isai Baroness. He was granted immunity to testify against codefendant Steven Washington. A pre-trial hearing was scheduled for February 27th, 2020. The final plea or verdict, conviction, sentence, and current status of Ivan Kenir are not verified in available public records.