So you can't have it all the ways that you just said. Okay? So you can't be not concerned cuz he wasn't there, but also I'm not concerned cuz he talked a lot of [ __ ] that he don't mean when he's mad, but also cuz I hit it and hit it. Okay. Okay. I'm not I'm not alone on this. So you can't not be scared of him because he's not there and not be scared of him cuz you know he said he don't mean what he's mad. So which is >> Like what do you I'm not saying >> On July 3rd, 2023, in Spalding County, Georgia, Sydney Mikaela Mulhan was brought in for questioning in connection with the death of Jonathan Tyler Gilbert, who had died as a result of gunshot wounds. Spoiler details are in the video description and the full results of all charges in the case are laid out at the end of the video. >> Okay. So y'all initially went there to abide? >> Yes, cuz she told me to get out. >> And you were going by Kaylee? >> I guess. I guess. >> The person who's there, the female? Um do you know do you know Kaylee? >> Uh I don't know her, but she's basically mad because I was together with her baby daddy and she got mad and texted a whole bunch of sentences on Instagram and talking about how I'm disgusting, how she was going to beat my ass when she seen me, and all of that. And this I'm like [ __ ] try me. This is kind of all irrelevant and she could like basically harass me like texting me and like talking to me about fighting me. So I just kind of got tired of it and I was like okay, if you want to fight, then give me information to come to your house. I'll come get you. >> Right. Okay. Um who was all with you in the car? >> It was just me and Jeremy and Kaylee. >> I got a question for you. You said that when the shooting occurred in the backseat >> Mhm. >> when I asked you how you got here, you said I went on the expressway. I went through >> Well, like my like we all did in the passenger side. Like I all drive there. Like I drove there and I got out of fire cuz I thought she would a So when I got out the fire my brother Jeremy he got in the front seat. And then when Alicia was there I just got in the back. And that's when he came out. He was like what do you want to do what do you want to do? So >> Where was he at when you got him? >> Literally say this is our window right? And >> What's the car window? >> Like right here. Literally I'm like I'm like this this is the car window. He's probably like right there. He's literally like at the door. So I just felt threatened for my life. >> Wha- where like I know you say it was at the window was he talking to um >> So that's when he came out the car he came up to the driver side window like he was going to smash it or something. Like cuz he had something in his hand. I don't know what he had in his hand. I don't know. But [snorts] he was acting like he had his he had his hand in his pants like he came up to the driver side first acting like he was going to like smash the window or something. And then he came to my side in the back and he was like acting like he started to pull something out and I was like I don't want to get locked first. >> Mhm. >> So I don't want to die. >> So where did you find the gun at in the car? >> It was uh I don't know I'm just kidding. I really can't remember it just like that time. >> Was it a loaded gun? >> No. >> Okay so it was already loaded? Okay so you picked it up from right next to you on the floor beside >> I was just He went when he came at me I was really trying trying to just grab something to protect myself with and then I seen that so then that's like the first thing was >> You seen it where? >> It was on the seat. >> Next to you? >> Uh just in the back seat I can't remember it. Tell you the truth. It just happened so fast like >> Did the other female get out of the car with you? >> Uh I didn't I didn't get out of the other She like She Listen to what happened. When we when it when it happened, like are you talking about like when we got out to fight her? Oh, okay. Yeah, she got out of the car with the 5-year-old, but like it all happened when we went off, you know, she just got out the car and I asked her I'm like, "Why are you getting out of the car, honey, when we were just protecting ourselves? Like how are you making it seem like we just assaulted him?" >> So, what's up with this $300? >> Mhm? >> About $300 for a trip? >> Oh. So, basically, um the dad doesn't really do them. Basically, his uh her baby daddy, I mean, I guess whatever whatever, uh they told me we were going on a beach trip through the night through the 13th or 12th, whatever. So, he asked me if I wanted to go, so, you know, of course yeah, I wanted to. So, he asked me He told me he was going to pay for me at first, then he told me he could only pay for his half, so if I'm like, "Listen, we need I was going to want to go to the beach with you." So, then I sent them my money like for for myself, which is $292. So, I sent it to them. Then out of nowhere, oh, the guy said the payment uh messed up. We can't go no more. It's going to take 5 to 10 business days for the money to come back, but I just didn't understand like cuz I was basically like, "Y'all stole my money from me basically because that we already paid him and we didn't We sent him the money We sent the owner the money through Cash App, I'm guessing, because that's who I Cuz Austin, he's the one who like had the whole trip planned, so we basically just sent our money to him. So, we sent it on Cash App because he was saying he was just going to send the money to the guy cuz I guess he knew him or I don't know. And that's why I was like it was kind of weird for you to take that long for me to get my money back if you just sent it >> Cash App. >> So, that has nothing to do with today. Okay. What this was about today was Correct me if I'm wrong. Kaylie's baby daddy, you and him were a thing. >> Yeah. >> And then Kaylie, I guess started popping off at the mouth to you about baby daddy. >> Mhm. And then I was discussing how she wanted to [ __ ] me. >> So, you went back and forth about it. >> go back and forth with her. I just I said what I I told her I'd beat her ass though. When she came at me with it >> Mhm. >> she said, "So, she texts me first asking me what I had to say to it." Like saying, "What do you have to say, bitch?" >> Mhm. >> So, then I said, "Well, ma'am." Then she said something else. Then I just was being a teenager. So, I said, "You're sitting here trying to stick up for your baby daddy cuz I'll [ __ ] you up in the morning." >> Mhm. >> When he's there. And then that's when she got mad. And that's when she's like, "I'mma beat your ass. I'mma do you the wrong way." All this stuff. Then she said to come to her house. And then she was like, after she told me to come, she said, "If you come to my house, I'mma do you wrong. I'mma do you worse way." So, you're threatening me like that. You want to fight me. I'm not going to be as scared. Like I'm not going to be scared to just sit there and let it happen. So, I went to her house like she said she wanted to fight me. I went to her house with her. >> So, how was Tyler involved in all of this? >> He basically he FaceTimed me today. >> Mhm. >> I It really didn't It wouldn't have had nothing to do with him if he would have really just stayed out of it and didn't come outside. >> Mhm. >> He was He FaceTimed me today and I I saw him where you at. He showed me the He showed me the house. And I said, "Why are you over there? Like we were just talking [ __ ] about her. You were just doing all this stuff, but now you're over there." And then he was like, "I'll pick her up her kids." And I texted her and asked her before I went over there because I didn't want to go over there with kids over there. So then I text her and I said, "Where are you at? Where like what are you doing?" Then my kids are at the babysit house, right? So then he was like, "I'll get off I'll get off at 5:00." Then that I was it takes 45 minutes to get from there to from my house to Griffin, so it was around 4:30 and I was like on the way up there. You were like, "I'm going to come." >> Mhm. >> So then I was on the way up there and she didn't come she didn't come out, but he came out. So >> Okay. >> Did I say on Instagram? That's how it started. And he that's when he told me he was like, "I'm a sex traffic you. I can pop your house right now if I wanted to. I'mma tie your mama up." And all this. And I'm like, "Well, now you really don't need to be >> All right. So >> So then >> When did this all start today? >> I probably started he called me 2:30, 3:00. Yeah, probably. Then like I was honestly like just going to let it go like drop it. And then he just kept adding on and calling me calling me up. And then he told me that she wanted to fight me. So I texted her myself because I don't believe anything she say. So I said, "Do you want to fight? Where are you at? Like what do you want to do?" >> And what time did you text her? >> Uh probably 3:30, 4:00. >> And then how did you text her? >> On Instagram. And then that's when she told me to come. >> She said, "Where are you at, hoe?" >> Mhm. >> She said, "Big what? Don't be texting me just because Drew done dropped you and took your money. Like I told you, go fight someone else, hoe. I'm getting money. Go make your pieces." With the laughing emoji and a peace sign. >> Mhm. >> She said, "I don't care about you. You got Tyler at your house taking care of your kids. >> Mhm. >> Dummy, I'm on the way. Best be outside. Now you're scared. >> Because of it. And he said >> So, where did she say for you to pull up? >> That's what I'm not saying. >> When >> So, I think Hang on, let me finish, okay? Because then she said, "Um [ __ ] like I said, I make money, and second, I wish the [ __ ] might pull up where my kids my [ __ ] kids sleep. I wish the [ __ ] you would." >> Mhm. >> But then you said >> ask him to say before that. >> That's why I asked him cuz you said you texted her at 3:34. And this is at 3:09. >> Yeah, because that's when I was I just got off the phone with Tyler. He was talking about how she wanted to fight me and all that stuff. That's why I texted her and said, "Where you at? You want to fight me?" I'm going to ask where you're at. Where do you want to meet? >> Where is your cell phone now? >> Where is your cell phone? >> Mhm. >> Uh I don't know cuz it was at my job and then >> [clears throat] >> Literally. >> Where were you at at your job? >> Mhm. I'm not sure. It's in my pocket and I took it out of my pocket and then I just >> gave >> I lost it, officer. >> Oh, then we have it. Okay. >> Where is it at? >> Okay. Okay. Wait, it's already frozen. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> And then he told me he was going to curb stomp me and shoot me. So. >> And it does say, "I promise you you can get done the worst way." >> Who is that? And then after I told him I was on the way I hung up cuz I wasn't going to do all the talking, you know. And he called me, so I put him on speaker so my brother could hear him. >> Mhm. >> And then that's when he heard us saying he was going to curb stomp me and he was going to tie my mama and rob my house. So, I said, "Then come do it. You know, all this stuff, but you haven't done anything." And he kept saying he's going to shoot my house up and stuff over at home. And when he told me to uh come, he told me he wasn't at the house and it was just her. So, that's why I didn't really expect him to be there. >> Okay. >> Cuz he told me he was like, "I'm going to pull up to your house. Just wait. I got a rental car. I'm on the way. She's at the house. She got off it. She got home in the Saab." That's what he was showing the phone. So, then he said, "You can pull up if you want to." And then that's when I texted her, "Where you at? I'm on the way." Cuz he just told me I could pull up and you're supposed to be there. See, y'all clearly talking if you're supposed to be there, you know. >> So, whose whose gun is that? >> It was Jeremy's. >> Okay. And how do you know Jeremy? >> Um Basically, I met him like 4 years ago. He Well, he was like a really good friend and then he just started He just became brother to me and he started living at my house. He used to live in Griffin. I'm not going to lie. He used to live in Griffin and be a bum, okay? So then I took him to my house and then got a job. He does even better with his life. So then he just stays there. >> Okay. Yeah. Um As far as the FaceTime video What was all said in that? Like were you guys um who was who who made the FaceTime call? >> It was He Albert was on the phone with me at first and then he made it into a FaceTime call. He called me on the phone. >> Okay. >> And then that's when he sent me the house and he was like, "She gets off at 5:00. If you want to fight, then you can be here. I'm going to beat your ass. I'm going to curse on you." And then he was saying how she wanted to fight me but then how he was going to tie me and my mom up, take stuff to go and rob her house and stuff. I'm like, "I don't understand." And then he would try to turn it around and be like, "Why are you mad at me, Sydney?" I'm like, "What? What do you mean? You just told me you were going to curse on me and do all this stuff to me." >> But you and him got out of the vehicle at the house >> Mhm. >> [clears throat] >> to go fight this this >> We were going to go because we thought she was there. >> And then >> And then >> What time did you get back into the car when you saw her leave? >> Yeah, like when cuz when came cuz the first time he came out he had some like he had a he had something in his hand. Then but he didn't really have a like his hand all the way in his pants so I couldn't really tell. But he was walking up to the car and like, "What you going to do? What you going to do?" Then he said, "I got something." He ran to the back comes out and then that's when When he started running up to us the first time, I mean he can get in the car. Girl, like I don't want to fight you. I came here to fight Caitlin like you said you wanted to. And then that's when he comes back out from around the back of the house with his hand all the way in his pants like he got a gun or something. So, he's bootlegging his butt walking. Then that's when we pulled around in the driveway so we could just leave. And then he started running up to the driver's side. And that's when he did all that. >> What's he wearing? >> Like he's wearing a a white What is it? Bathrobe? Isn't that what they call a bathrobe? And like probably I think some black pants or something. >> Okay. >> A bathrobe I guess. I can't really I wasn't I wasn't worried about him. Like I didn't think that would happen. I thought we was going to fight, girl. Like I didn't think >> [clears throat] >> What were you doing? >> Like I wasn't He He told me that he was going to do all that, but then he called me when I told my mom I was on the way to fight her. He said, "She gets there at 5:00." I said, "Okay, we'll be there by that time." Then he said, "I'm not there. I'm going to get a rental car." So, I didn't even know he was there. So, then that's like what kind of surprised me when he came outside cuz like why are you coming outside? She's supposed to be coming outside. >> But you said that in the FaceTime you knew that he was at the house. >> Uh he told me to come to the house. And then he said, "Never mind. I'll be at y'all's at 6:00." He said, "I'm going to get a rental car right now." And I said, "No, it's fine. I'm already on the way." >> So, my issue is the fact that he's already told you he's going to rob you, beat your ass, curb stomp you, tie you and your mama up. >> Mhm. >> And you still And you still go. And you still load the gun to shoot him. >> I didn't know. >> It was unloaded. We have multiple people saying that it was unloaded. >> I don't even know how to load a gun. I can literally show y'all right now. >> And then another issue that I have with the gun is the fact that it you have to load it every time you shoot it. How many times do you shoot a gun? >> I didn't load a gun. >> How many times did you shoot the gun? >> I did it twice, but I've never loaded it. I don't even know how to load it. >> You don't even know how to load this one. >> Mhm. >> But you fired it one or two times. >> Cuz I felt threatened for my life. I didn't know what What am I supposed to do when a guy's coming at me? I mean, just playing >> Did he have all this stuff on? >> Black pants, black shirt, and a Bass Pro Shops >> He had it on the side, I believe. >> Okay, so he was wearing shorts. >> Mhm. >> Um Did he have Was it a tank top? He was wearing a tank top, and the hat was red. So, this description that you have of the I don't remember the hat vividly. This description that you have of him is wrong. And if he was carrying an AR in his pants, do you realize how big a AR is? >> I don't know if he had it or not. >> So, you know that somebody stands >> know. >> Hang on. You know that if somebody stands up and they have that AR in their pants, you're going to see the muzzle of that gun, right? >> Can I show you how he was walking? >> Yeah, you said that he had his hands in his pants. >> Can I show you how he was walking? >> Yeah, okay. >> He literally was like this. I'm like, "I'm going to put my hands in my pants." I don't know. But he was like this. Literally walking like that to my car, like running up, "What you going to like That's what he was doing, like "What you going to do, [ __ ] What you going to do?" Like, I was scared for my life. >> Okay. So, there in lies the biggest part of your story that I have a problem with. >> How many face cams he had that stuff on? >> If you say that you shot this man because you were in fear for your life. >> Yes, sir. >> And you were mad that McKenzie ran away because it made you look guilty. >> It doesn't matter. I just I was really I was more worried about her than mad. >> But earlier you said you were upset he ran away because it looked like you did something. >> Yes. >> Why did you not say and call the police and tell them, "Hey, I just had to shoot this fool because he I I thought he was going to kill me." He ran away. >> You're right. And then another thing that I have an issue with >> and I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't have called the police. >> Another issue I have is your in fear of your life. If you were so in fear of your life, you wouldn't have never went to that house in the first place. >> Right. My child mom >> You would have never went to that house in the first place if you were that scared. >> But it wasn't I wasn't scared before that happened. It's like I'm saying >> already threatened to rob you, sex trap you >> beat your ass But I know he was >> And he's threatened to do all of these You knew he was there. >> He told me he was there. Then told me he was going to He wasn't there though. He was going to get a rental car. I didn't know he was there. >> still went. >> Yes, ma'am. >> You know what this girl's house looks like don't you? You've been there before. >> Yes, sir. >> So when he FaceTimed with you, you're seeing familiar scenery. So you're not telling me you were there. >> Mhm. >> All right. If I FaceTime with you and you see these girls behind me, you're going to know that where these women are from. >> Yeah, and then he called me right after. When he hung up the phone, 10 minutes later he literally called me and said, "Just wait till 6:00. I'll come to your house. I'm going to get a rental car right now." And I said, "It's okay. You told me me Kaylee wanted to fight, so I'm on the way to fight her." And that's when I pulled up and then that's when he came out cuz I didn't know he was still there. If I knew he was still there, I would have never went after he said all that stuff to me. Cuz he told me he called he said it's a First when he face First he called me. Then he told me he was going to rob me and stuff, right? When I don't know if I was on the first Then he told me to meet me at the green store, the gas station down right right there. Tyler. So I could rob So he could rob me. That's what he said. He said, "I'm going to rob you." I said, "How are you going to rob? Like I don't got nothing for you. Where are you going to rob me?" He was like Then he said, "It's okay. No, I'm going to get a rental car right now." I said, "But I'm coming for you. I'm You said Kaylee wanted to fight me. Like I'm on the way to her, not you. So then after he said that, I didn't he I thought he was on the way to go get her regarded. No, he was still there. So he came outside. >> Were you and Tyler a thing? >> Yeah. >> Okay. And so Tyler just got back from Texas yesterday. >> Mhm. [clears throat] >> And Sydney went and picked him up from the airport. >> Sydney? >> I'm sorry, Sydney. Um Kaylee went and picked him up from the airport. >> I didn't know that. He told me his girl Haley picked him up yesterday. >> Haley picked him up from the airport. And then they went back to Kaylee's house in Dobbins Mill. >> Mhm. >> Tyler FaceTimes you. That's true. You said multiple people have said that and the comment that is made is, "Oh, you're at that bitch's house." So you knew exactly where he was at. You knew he was at >> I said you were at Kaylee's house. >> Yes. >> I said I was at Kaylee's house. >> That's what was laid out. So you get in this fight with Kaylee at 5:00 p.m. >> Yeah, but she told me to be there at 5:00 cuz that's when she got home. So Tyler's home, she said. >> Intentionally leave your house, travel down 20, go down 1941 North Expressway. >> To fight her. >> To fight her. You stop at the gas station. >> I didn't stop at the gas station. >> You didn't stop at the gas station? >> I didn't want to go to the gas station after he just told me he was waiting in there, apparently trying to rob me, and then he said he was going to get a rental car. So I didn't think I was going to stop at the gas station. >> So you and McKenzie never went inside the store? >> To go pee. >> You just said you didn't stop at the store. >> I'm sorry. If you go pee, yes, but we didn't stop there like I was cuz he told me to come. I wasn't stopping like, "Oh, he told me to come at this store. Let me go to that store." I went there to pee. >> where [clears throat] he told you to You went everywhere he told you to go. You went to the gas station where he said he was going to rob you at. You went to the house where he said he was going to beat your ass at. But you showed up because you're in fear for your life. How help me make that make sense. Help me explain that to a jury that I plan to fight this girl but this man who is so much bigger than me threaten to kick my ass, beat my mama's ass, curb stomp me, sex traffic me. I'm just going to go to that house where I know that he is at and let him do all of these things. And then the minute that he comes towards you, you're in fear of your life. >> didn't know he was >> Please help me explain that to a jury. >> I'm trying to. I can >> Where else was he going to be? >> He told me he He literally he called me and it sounded like he was in a car. He said, "I'm on the way to a rental place and stay at your house or stay." I said, "Why am I going to stay at my house when you just told me to come here and fight this girl?" >> Do you know anything about Tyler's current status? >> He's not likely >> Do you know if he's okay? >> I don't know. >> Do you know that he's dead? That you killed him? >> Mhm. Well, I was in fear for my life. I don't know what else to say. I told y'all the truth. I told y'all what happened. >> I don't think you're being 110% truthful. >> Yeah, and it's not a magical sketch artist. >> I don't I don't know that. >> You go in everywhere that man told you to go and everywhere you didn't >> No, I I can explain like to what y'all want. I can explain to y'all. >> We can't coach you into saying what we want you to >> No, I'm not like what do y'all not understand so I can explain to y'all. >> understanding how you're so terrified of this man. You shoot him. The only thing he said before that don't matter. [ __ ] that. [ __ ] what he said. Hang on. Hang on. [ __ ] what he says. He's already said all this bad stuff that's going to happen to me. >> It's me. >> But I'm still going to go. Oh, and the minute that all of this happened >> Yes, ma'am. So, can I say something? >> Yes. >> So, yester- he when did he say he got to like did they say he got back today or what? Cuz he >> Tell us what you know. >> Okay, so he was trying to mess with me again, you know, do whatever cuz he was texting. I don't know. Trying to mess with me again for my money. I don't know. So, he called me yesterday when he was on way home. He told me this girl, Haley, was coming to get him or whatever. And then yesterday, he told me, "Oh, you're my best friend. You're my right-hand man. Like, I'll never do anything to you like that." But, I let him use my car, right? I gave him a deadline. I let him use it for about 2 weeks. I gave him a deadline on her birthday. That was June 16th, right? He didn't bring it back on the time I told him to. So, I told him, "If you don't want to bring it back by today or tomorrow, I will have the cops on you because I gave you a deadline to bring me back my car and that didn't happen. So, now it's stolen." So, then he brought it back, whatever. This girl followed him to my house. So, that's what really started started this whole thing. Because the girl followed him to my house after he lied to me and said, "Nobody's following no girl following me to my my house. Like, no girl's following me him to my house to drop off my car." Whatever. So, I thought it was his homeboy. Then I find out who it was and it was from Haley that I don't like, whatever. I don't I was like, "Okay, whatever." He At first, he sends me this address to go to this house. I didn't go, whatever. So, then I he called me this morning, "I'm glad you didn't go to that house. That's That's my homeboy's. I'm glad I'm glad you're still alive, Sydney. I'm glad you're still alive." I was like, "What are you talking about? We're all fine and like we're really fine and like fine." So, Sydney told me he was telling me sorry cuz he was still He gets mad and says stuff he didn't mean, you know. So, then he he said that stuff and I He apologized for it, whatever. Then I he FaceTimed me at Kaylee's house and he was in I was like, "After I said, 'Oh, you're at her house. Like, you're at that girl's house, but you've been talking [ __ ] about her.'" Literally, he's been talking all this crap about her and stuff. I was like, "Why are you at her house?" Then he's going to get mad and say, "Cuz I'm taking care of her kids." But, when I asked her, like Tyler said he's taking care of your kids, whatever, she said he's they're they're at the babysitter's house. So, I was like that's how I knew you were lying to me right now. Like I don't like you to lie. I'd rather you tell me the truth than lie to me. So, then after that he was he just started getting mad and hung up the phone. Then he called me back saying he was going to do all that stuff. But he's already said every time we get in a fight he says how he's going to do all this stuff and he doesn't do it. So, I wasn't worried about it then. And then >> You I'm listening to you. I'm sorry. >> I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be rude. >> No, I'm just I'm thinking. Sorry. >> So, then after [clears throat] he called me he said all that stuff, I was worried about it by then. Like yes, I was mad because you can My thing is you can tell me you're going to do whatever to me, but don't bring my family into it. I do not like that. I don't play my family. Please don't bring my family into it. So, when he said he was going to tell my mom all this stuff, that's what is kind of like whatever. Like now I'm on the way. Okay, you told me Kayla's there. You told me she wanted to fight me. Now I'm on the way. Okay, so now what? So, then when I told him I was on the way, he called me several times basically No, I'm on the way. I'm going to get a rental car right now. Hung up. Meet me at the gas station. I'mma rob you. Hung up. Okay, we get we get halfway there. She said she had to pee. I said okay. I pulled into the thing. We go in there to open the bathroom. It's locked. So, then we had to go to Indian. Do you have a key? Gave us a key. We went to the bathroom. Locked right out. And then we went to her house to fight her like I thought that was going to happen cuz he told me that he wasn't there. So, I didn't think he was there. But he told me on the way to get a rental car. That's why I wasn't scared of going over there. So, then Yes, I I wasn't worried about when he said it, but that's what I wasn't so worried about it going over there because I didn't know he was there because he told me he was on the way to get a rental car and come to my house and brought me and Tyler's mother up and stuff. So, I didn't know he was there. So, that's when I went I went to your house like he said she said she wanted to do. I pulled in his truck the driveway. He came out. Then I pulled out and then he went behind the house, came back out again to the door and then like he was going to bust it out or something and he came to my door have his hands in his pants these why he came out the back of the house. I and then he started to pull something out his pants out his pants. So, but I don't Yes, I I I understand what I did and I should have called y'all if I If I If I felt threatened for my life then I should have called y'all, but I just don't I just don't want to I I don't know why I didn't call y'all. Never mind. Should have called y'all. >> I want to touch on something that I'll wait. >> Okay. So, you you can't have it all the ways that you just said. Okay? So, you [clears throat] you can't be not concerned cuz he wasn't there, but also I'm not concerned cuz he talked a lot of [ __ ] that he don't mean when he's mad, but also cuz I hit him in the head. Okay. Okay. So, I'm not I'm not alone on this. So, you can't not be scared of him because he's not there and not be scared of him cuz you know he that he don't mean what he's mad. So, which is >> Like what he I'm not saying I'm sorry. >> You said that you weren't concerned about going over there because he talked [ __ ] when he's mad that he doesn't mean. Like the other last time that y'all got in an argument he said all this [ __ ] [ __ ] and then he apologized, right? And then everything was kosher. >> Yes. >> So, you now know in your mind that he talks [ __ ] when he's mad that he doesn't mean. >> Mhm. >> Which is you said when you said you were going over there you weren't worried about that [ __ ] because he talked [ __ ] he don't mean all the time. But then it's well now I'm not worried about it cuz he wasn't there either. So, what you doing? >> Can I >> When he first called me, this is all the stuff he was saying. So, I wasn't worried about it. Like, he does that all the time. >> All right. >> You guys go ahead. So, then when he when I go over there and he's really got over there doing all the stuff that he's saying he's going to do, cuz I've never been here. >> What were you wearing? Before you changed. >> Um [clears throat] some shorts and a crop top. >> What color? [clears throat] Where would they be at when you changed? >> I don't I really don't know. >> Were they in your bedroom or the bathroom? >> Probably in my bedroom. >> Do you have a hamper in there? >> Yeah. >> What day? >> They're in my floor or in my hamper. >> What kind of shorts? >> Uh they're flare-y. >> What you wearing? >> Like like >> What material are they made out of? >> Just jean shorts. >> They're jean shorts. They have holes in them? >> But I also have some other ones in there, too. They're not They're They're like this color. They're like dark like this. >> be a dark wash. >> Like that dark blue. >> Like a darkish blue kind of wash. Not super dark, but not super light. Like, are they What brands are they? >> I think American Eagle. >> American Eagle. >> But there's like three pairs in there that are American Eagle. >> What color top? >> I think it was nude. No, it was a blue one. My bad. It was a light blue one. >> Light blue? So, basically, I wasn't I've never been around him when he says stuff to me, so that's why I wasn't worried about it when he said it to me, because he told me he wasn't going to be here. That's why I wasn't worried about it when I came over there. So, when he came out and he was still like being talking all this stuff, coming up to the car, like, "What you going to do? What you going to do, bitch?" Yeah, I'm going to be scared cuz he's never done that to me in person, like ever. I get where you're coming from. >> Yeah, it just don't make a whole lot of sense. You I'm not going to put my ass in a situation where I'm scared I'm going to have to kill somebody. >> Yeah, and but I didn't know he was there. I literally thought >> You knew there was a pretty damn good shot he was there because he had been there. Your last known knowledge was that he was there and then now he's going to get a rental car. >> Yeah, cuz he called me >> He's using He's using money. He probably doesn't have money to get a rental car. >> Mhm, probably. >> Right, and he >> She but she was He also has money. So, I really didn't know. And when he called me it sounded like he was already in the car on the way to get a rental car. That's why I think he was there. >> So, you you put yourself in a situation where you're you shot and killed somebody. >> Yes. But I really felt it for my life. And I should have called the cops. >> Yeah, you you you get in your car and back up and didn't reach [clears throat] out to the authorities in McDonough. You >> Yeah, that's why when I went home I I I called my mom and said, "Mom, what do I do? I need to know what to do because I don't want to get in trouble for trying to defend myself that way." She told me that you shouldn't get in trouble for defending yourself if that's what you were doing. That's why I really like didn't think about calling y'all or anything because when I went to my mom and dad, that's what they told me. Because you're not going to like if you're a kid, you're not going to go to your parents to ask them what to do when something happens like that? >> Yeah, my I guess the the big thing is like you knew you shot him. There's no question about that. >> Yeah. >> You knew that you had shot this man and left him in the street. >> I didn't know all of that. Yeah, I didn't. >> He hit the ground like a sack of potatoes and he shut >> I did. >> And you can't tell me he He did not move once he got shot. That was it. Lights out. He hit the ground. Came out. >> He came out. >> So, y'all would have seen him. Y'all would have seen him in the rearview or out the window when you were pulling away. >> When we Okay, so >> You're here, right? You're here. You're driving >> This is their driveway. Their house is right here. So, when we pulled in their driveway at first, he came out the front door. Right before I had time to put my put in reverse or put in park to get out. When I got out the car for me and Kasey to fight this girl, that's when he came out. So, then I had to get in the backseat, my brother got in the front, and then that's when he tried to reverse the car. And as he was reversing the car, he ran behind the house as quick as he could. Ran back out with something in his hands. Shorts, whatever he had on. "Oh, you But you you really didn't know, [ __ ] Now I'm going to get your ass. Now I'm going to get you, bitch." Of course I'm going to be scared for my life when they're coming up to me like you and that. >> Okay, so why didn't you leave? Why'd you Why'd you have to shoot him? Why didn't they just put the car in gear and go? >> Cuz that's what we were trying to do. And then he came up to the car. Like he was literally about to bust the window and open the door and try to kill me like he said he was going to do. >> You know what the car most faster than you? >> I mean, when he's right there, you know, I mean, I would >> So, the point that I was making is [snorts] that if you're in the road right here between the the yellow and the white lines >> Yes, sir. >> facing yonder, ready to put the car in gear and go. And he comes up to the window that you're at. >> As we're pulling out of the driveway. >> And uh he's standing right there. >> He was He was standing there. >> Or leaning or >> was running up to my car trying to like taking something out of his pants and then come and bust the windshield. >> And you shoot twice? >> Put the car in drive and then my thing at this point basically taking something out of his pants trying to I don't know he's trying to open the door with his other I don't know. You like I don't know. >> [clears throat] >> So then I'm just looking for something to buy to protect myself. Literally I didn't Even if it was a gun I was trying to protect myself because I didn't want nothing to happen to me. Yes I should have called y'all. Yes I understand that. And I messed up not doing that. >> So you shoot twice out the window? Window down? >> Uh the window broke so it's already down. Cuz that thing broke on it so you can't roll it. >> So why would he try to break the window? >> The front the this one. The front window. The back window is broke. The front window is it He ran to the front window first back like when we reversed and then he was Jeremy went to put the car in drive and then when he came at me and did that. >> So tell me how the back window is already down cuz it's broken. So here's a here's a thing, right? You shoot twice. Did you Did you Did you shoot him? You hit the guy cuz he's right in the window. According to you he's up trying to like he's maybe grabbing your hand. And he falls to the ground. >> Well we went off like we >> You guys You guys left. >> Yes. >> Before you place all of that what I want to approach is When did y'all get in the driveway? >> Uh sometime. Can I get some more water, please? >> Yeah. >> I'm sorry. >> When did y'all get in the driveway? >> Uh like what like what >> When did y'all get there? >> Yeah. >> Yeah when we got there we went to go in the driveway and that's when me and I got out of the car cuz we are going to fight Kaylee. >> Okay, so >> That's when he came out. >> So, you thought you were going to fight Kaylee in here. So, were y'all there to fight Kaylee and egg the house? >> Mhm. >> Well, that's a lie cuz there are eggs on the house. >> No, we were egging them. >> But how he So, so he >> We were egging her and then he came out. That and then we started egging him because he came out. >> were assaulting him with an egg. >> No, he came at me first. Literally. >> out of the house after you're damaging their property. >> No, we didn't do anything first. We literally got out the car because she But she said she wanted to fight, right? He said she said she wanted to fight. >> to me for a second and then you telling your story about yourself. This is what's not making sense. You pull into the driveway, stop. >> Mhm. >> You and McKinley both get out. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Because y'all wanting to fight Kaylee. >> Yes, ma'am. >> So, in the midst of you getting out, there's a carton of eggs somewhere. Somebody's got eggs thrown to them at her house. They're all over the front porch. They're all under her bedroom window. She comes out. He comes out. You see him. He comes out at you. So, y'all start throwing eggs at him. That's what you just said. So, hang on. Hang on. Hang on. So, not only when he came out of the house to say, "Hey, chill the [ __ ] out." or whatever he wanted to say after y'all damaging their property, you start assaulting him with eggs. >> No. >> So, then hang on. So, then you get in the rear >> Mhm. >> driver's rear passenger seat behind the driver because I mean driving. So, he starts after you. But you just assaulted him. You just damaged his property. Hang on. You just damaged his property. So, then when he comes up to try to figure out what the [ __ ] going on, you say, "Fuck this." and shoot him. That's what happened. But you don't admit that. You want to admit that you were there to fight her over some baby daddy drama. That's what you just said. You went over there to fight her over some baby daddy drama. But you don't want to admit the fact that you were there damaging their property. >> But can I tell you >> You don't want to admit the fact that you were there assaulting him with eggs. >> I can't say for sure. >> When we pulled in there, I thought she was coming out. >> Yes. So, I was going to fight her and throw eggs at her. >> But you knew she wasn't there and she wasn't getting off at 5:00. Hear me out. >> got there around 5:00. That's why I thought she was there. >> The call came out when a bystander was doing CPR on him at 4:47. Y'all were at that house at 4:45. That's 15 minutes prior to 5:00. Caterpillar on Rehoboth Road from Rehoboth Road to Dobbinsville Road, minimum 15 minutes. 20 minutes, maybe. 20 minutes if you're doing the speed limit. >> So, she already knows the way to her house. She told me that she got She was there before me and I got there at 5:23. She had just got there before I did. >> Yes, ma'am. >> So, 5:23 p.m. is when I got there. >> Yes, ma'am. >> She got the call at 5:14 from her friend who was already on scene seeing this man dead and Tyler's been shot. So, she wasn't even at the house 50 minutes later. She got off work. So, the minute that you saw him and you knew all of this stuff, you knew that he was going to beat your ass, curb stomp you, tie your mama up, tie you up, sex traffic you, you still threw eggs at him. >> Yes, ma'am. >> But you were so scared of him. So, the minute that he comes running up to the car because you just assaulted him and his property, that's when you're scared of him? >> I already did that prior to that. >> I'm done talking to you. You can finish talking to him. I'm going to go figure out what the hell else he's got to say. I'm going to go. >> Your story doesn't >> I mean, I'm telling you what happened. >> But I have no doubt that you don't know what happened. >> So, what do I ask for? A power of attorney, a lawyer? >> to speak to a lawyer. I'll jump on that. >> But I'm asking I'm I'm saying I I'm asking how do I do that? >> Like that. You say lawyer and then that's locked in. >> Okay. Are they going to come in here now? >> No. >> Can I make a phone call? >> Uh when you get back to the jail, can you? >> Okay. >> In the 2023 Spalding County, Georgia case, Sydney Mikayla Mahan was charged with murder, malice murder, aggravated assault, possession of a firearm during the commission of a crime, battery, family violence, and criminal trespass in the death of Jonathan Tyler Gilbert. On November 20th, 2024, Mahan pleaded guilty and was convicted of malice murder. On or about that date, Mahan was sentenced to life in prison with parole eligibility only after serving at least 30 years. As of the most recent verified information, Mahan is incarcerated serving the life sentence.