Please search war, COME TO THE DOOR. PLEASE SEARCH WAR, COME TO THE DOOR. MOVING IN this room right here. >> Please search war, come to the door. Somebody awakes in here. >> Right hand. Yeah, right hand. Ready? Somebody I think somebody's coming. Watch this. >> Come to the door. Come open THE DOOR. SHERIFF'S OFFICE. Search warrant. COME TO THE DOOR NOW. >> All right. All right. Moving. You ready, Chris? Go for >> it. Search warrant. >> SHOW US YOUR HANDS NOW. >> SHERIFF'S OFFICE WARRANT. SHOW ME YOUR HANDS. >> On the morning of Monday, September 22nd, 2025, sheriff's deputies in Illinois lined up outside a family home with a search warrant. The case behind that warrant had been building for six months. In March, Google flagged activity on a series of accounts and reported it to law enforcement. The flagged files were images of child sexual abuse. Each one a record of a real child being harmed. Investigators served warrants on the accounts, then on the internet provider in the mobile carrier. The trail kept narrowing until it reached one address and one young man living there, 23-year-old Jason John's. He drove for Door Dash, hoped to rejoin the National Guard, and had no criminal record. Within hours, John's was sitting across from a detective who had already read his accounts from beginning to end. The detective wasn't there to ask whether the files existed. He wanted to know how they got there. John's would answer that question more than once. This is the interrogation of Jason John's. >> Is that a little bit more comfortable for you? Yes. Okay. I just want you know, I'm Detective Wilson. I do have a body camera on. All right. So to see uh but before we do anything cuz we're in a police station and whatnot read your marine rights. You have a right to remain silent. Anything you say do you can't be used against the court of law. Your right to an attorney if you can't afford one be appointed to you for free at no charge. Do you understand the rights they just said to you? >> Yes sir. >> Okay. Um explain everything that's going on. Do do you have any idea or any guess why I'm here or anything like that? >> No sir. Okay that >> no sir. Okay. And most of it's due to the fact of my cat. Not my cat, but my insurance being out. >> Well, do you think do you think we would do a search warrant in somebody's house for insurance? >> All right. So, >> it's all annoying. What you're expecting? Well, I got better things to do than just that, man. Uh, I got better things to do than just that, man. Uh, so let me explain what I do. I I do uh investigations on [music] things related to online accounts. All right? And so um your Googles, your Facebooks, your Snapchats, Tik Toks, whatever, anytime they find something weird on accounts, they they make a report to the police and that gets disseminated to the appropriate police agency. And so back back in March uh this year um Google got a notification or notifications on um a bunch of your accounts cuz you actually have multiple Google accounts. You don't just have one. >> Oh yeah, that's because so first one Hey, I lost it. >> Which which account was that? Sorry. >> Uh Adam. >> Okay. It wasn't there was no numbers or anything like that in there. >> No. >> Okay. So you lost that one. I lost that one. >> Okay. >> And then I made I went over to iCloud or somewhere that wasn't Google and then it was King John. [music] >> Yeah. >> Then it then I made then I got tired of not being able to see my [music] emails. more email notifications that I made. Let's stand back. >> That's your account. >> That's I don't use that one anymore. >> Okay. >> Um I stopped using it in I stopped officially using it for everything in like early of this month. Early of this year, like February. >> February. Yeah. >> Right. Who who else has access to those accounts? >> Just you. >> Just me as to what I know. >> Okay. All right. Um, so I'm here to figure out some wise, [music] right? I'm not necessarily here to figure out whether or not like these things belong to you, but maybe help me understand like how this situation occurred. All right? Cuz um I think that's important to to understand as why, right? Right. It gives you an explanation if you don't say, "Hey, this is what happened, right?" And I don't look at it um in ignorance. So, does anything sort of come to your mind about why why we would come knocking at your door so early in the morning? >> No. I keep my head up and I try not to do anything dumb. >> Okay. So, on these accounts, right, so Google makes reports to us, right? Right. We get things like your IP addresses. Um, uh, I've already did the search warrant on two of your Google accounts. Stand pass 21, Stamp Patch 25. You have multiple other ones. Uh, Stamp Patcher 21. I saw 25. I stopped using God knows when. >> Even if it was one of your accounts. It >> It was one of my accounts. Yes. I'm not I'm not just I'm not saying that it wasn't. I'm not saying that [music] it isn't. I'm saying that, hey, it it was one of my accounts. >> Sure. >> I just don't use it. >> Sure. Um, excuse me. [cough and clears throat] Uh, amongst others, there's one like an ad something I had to pull. >> Yeah, those are all tied back on your Google accounts to your IP address. All right. And I >> I didn't personally make those. >> Okay. Let me explain Let me explain these things here to you. Um, >> so when when we do this, like I said, I've already searched your Google account. search everything from the beginning to the end of your account um that Google [music] gave me. Uh it provides me access logs, your IP addresses, um locations, search history, [music] Google Drive folders, um everything, [clears throat] right? And so when we look at that stuff, we look to see, okay, how do we t like what is this tie to? Um we searched media and T-Mobile. uh got records back from them as well showing this these devices are connected to right. >> Um we go into your Stan Basher accounts uh and we see things like your insurance card. We see things like um you know your name's listed all over the place, date of birth, uh phone numbers, things like that. It's all there, right? Um and in that we also find a folder called it, right? And in this folder, uh, there's there's, right, which is not adult is not legal. >> I wait, when did I make that? Because I don't remember making a folder in that. >> Okay. Well, there's a folder in there. Again, these are all tied to your to your address to your devices, right? Um, and so, uh, that's the other interesting thing is when we look at those accounts, they're all tied to certain IVI numbers of cell phones, right? So, it tells me it comes from one cell phone. So, there's multiple accounts that are all made. It's coming from one device. It's not coming from multiple places. It's not like I'm saying like, oh, somebody hacked your account in Istanbul and we're showing IP addresses and IMEI numbers from those devices. one IE number, one device, one IP address, right? It all comes back to you. Okay. And that we find. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> I >> So me personally, I know that I didn't touch anything like that because >> So let me explain. So I found at least 24 images. All right. Um, and I'm not here to question whether or not like, okay, did he do it? Did he not do it? Like, like I'm I'm past that point because of all the evidence I already have, right? Everything ties it to you. It's not like I'm seeing IP addresses in California or Kentucky. I'm not seeing access from multiple different devices where it has different logs. That's not the question, right? The question is is okay, how did we live there, right? How did we stumble upon that? Was it an accident? Maybe you accidentally stumbled upon it. I don't know. I need you to help me explain to understand that, right? That's why I'm here is so I can understand how did you come up with these these images on your folder. So, I I don't know if it was sent to me by someone outside of me. Well, sent to me, but I don't know. I can't remember if I click something to add it to my forms because I know there's forms, there's docs, there's all that. Um, but I I must have clicked on something that was more so like me trying to see work related because I'm trying to get back into work. How would you actually find? >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What I'm saying is >> people can people can throw into links. >> Sure, but what kind of links are you looking at? That would actually get you to like I do not touch that. I do not like that. I try to stay away from that as far as I possibly can. >> All right, let's let's jump back here. All right. So, adult that is not illegal, right? Not not anything that we would care about. All right. You're an adult male. We can do whatever you want. Do you look at adult? >> Yes. >> Okay. All right. How often would you say you looked at it? Like, are you casual >> in the daily, weekly, monthly? >> I'd say in the past week, maybe twice. >> Twice. Okay. All right. Where do you typically [music] find that stuff at? Okay. >> Okay. >> The typical that you would look at. >> Sure. Um, >> if you were to look at >> Sure. Are you in chat groups with people that trade? It's pretty common. >> I used to be and I'm slowly and I'm trying to get away from people as that. >> Okay. >> Because I've noticed that they have underneath them. Well, you know, so I can't remember their names, but >> Okay. So, you're saying at some point they at least you've seen it? >> Yes. [snorts] >> Okay. Uh, how often would you say you've seen it? >> Maybe once? >> You've seen it once? >> I I've seen it once and then was all like, get this the hell away from you. >> Okay. And how did you was this through? >> This was this was through uh No, it's not through Telegram. >> WhatsApp signal. >> One of those. I can't remember the exact name of it. >> Okay. That's fairly common. Uh did how did you find this group? Like what was I mean you just don't get a signal or >> uh it was the anonymous the app. >> Okay. And essentially you guys would like trade that you would have. Is that what is that accurate? >> I I more more so I was like hey nothing related nothing like that. And then next thing I know, he sends me a Google Drive folder of it. They it probably whenever I clicked into it because I didn't know what it was because it said as you said it said. >> Okay. So So you're saying at one point you received a folder from somebody on an app that you downloaded up and then there >> Yes, sir. Okay. How would that then get saved to another folder? Cuz typically in your when you receive a file, it just goes to your downloads, right? You have to take steps to save that folder to another file, right? And these folders were saved in other files. That wasn't under like a download section. >> It It also brought in malware to my PC. >> Brought malware to your PC. >> Yes, sir. >> Excuse me. [clears throat] And then he ported into my PC and then fully >> So what else did this malware do to your PC? >> Well, a it was more so a Trojan horse to get access into my PC. >> Okay. So what did they do? Cuz again, this is not again I have IP addresses device. >> It's not showing me the multiple devices. It's not showing me multiple locations throughout the country or throughout the world, right? Which it would, right? When those are those things are accessed, your Google account gets accessed, those are all tracked, timestamped, and logged, right? Um even even if they're using a VPN, >> remote desktop, >> even if they're using a VPN, it would still tag where the IP address is coming from, right? >> Um and that's not things I'm seeing, right? Every time I ran an IP address, it comes back to Bob Illinois, right? >> So, unless there's some massive deep state Russian conspiracy that access this random guy's computer, uh, >> there's also remote There's also the remote desktop app, which I do have installed. >> Sure. and he had and I've noticed that it's been going crazy. Okay, but that doesn't explain the lack of any sort of IP address outside of again when you enter those Google accounts, right? Those that that timestamps and collects all sorts of data. Um, and that does not pointing to somebody accessing your account uh through remote desktops, through some type of VPN, nothing like that. It's just showing 113. And those those addresses have to be specific, right? This is how it it funnels its way through that traffic. And I, like I said, I try to stay clear as to as I possibly can. And I genuinely it's it's one of those things where, okay, I try to stay clear. >> I would say that I try to stay clear, too. And never in my life have I ever accidentally ended up in a situation where I I've save folders and files to my computer uh unknowingly, right? That's just not something that happens. There's intentional steps are taken to get to that point. And again, I'm not here to discuss the uh if you did it portion of this, right? I'm here to discuss the why >> and try to figure out how these images ended up on a computer, right? And these are intentional steps that were taken and an explanation of what actually happened is going to bode much better than for you than a bunch of like, oh, this is weird. I have no idea [clears throat] uh how this ended up here. I do a lot of these cases. This is mostly what I do, right? And so every single time I have somebody sitting across from me and they try to come up with some weird roundabout, oh yeah, some guy maybe overseas hacked my computer and just place a single folder of there. That doesn't make sense. That doesn't The jury doesn't believe that. Nobody believes that. It just looks like somebody's trying to cover their steps, right? >> [clears throat] >> But somebody who's truthful and says, "Hey, this is what happened. I screwed up. This isn't who I am." That shows at least remorse and show somebody who's willing to take ownership of their actions and and whatnot, right? So that's that's what I'm here for. So explain to me how you ended up with >> As I said before, the uh a the link >> Okay. from the the anonymous app. >> And you save those that folder. >> I saved that folder. I just didn't I didn't think exactly what was in it. >> Okay. But you knew there was but you saw in that folder. >> Yes, sir. And then I never touched that folder ever again and I thought that I deleted it. Right. >> Each new explanation didn't replace the last one. It retreated from it. He didn't make the folder. Then a stranger sent it. Then malware and a remote connection placed it. Now he saved it himself. What moved him wasn't a new piece of evidence. Wilson never argued guilt. He kept returning to one technical fact. Saving a file into a folder takes deliberate steps and let every version run into it. >> Why would you Why would you go? I guess help me understand why you would go to a site which you may sound like repeatedly or use an app repeatedly that you know there's on there and you continue to go back even though you're like hey I don't want to see this but you keep going back. So help me explain that I was just trying to find normal conversations after I found that. [clears throat] So even though you knew there was this was on here, you're like whatever. I'm going to keep going. >> Well, it wasn't more so whatever. It was more so, hey, don't send me whatever the you got more so. >> Okay. >> I don't want that. Like, let's just have a civil conversation. >> So, you're looking for civil conversations on >> it. It wasn't a side. It was more so a chatting app like Omega. >> Okay. >> But not Omegle. >> Okay. >> It was more so just text. >> Okay. Um, have you ever would you say that you maybe have a addiction? And that's it's not something that you can [music] necessarily control, but is that something you would say that you maybe have? >> Yes. With the older >> Okay. >> folks. Um, would you say it's plausible that again I've talked to many people who've been in this realm. Um, I don't think I [snorts] don't think most of them ever intended to get themselves there. I don't think anyone ever intended to be in that area of things. But what we know with things or people who struggle with addiction and again there's a lot of stuff going on behind that whether it's childhood trauma. Um >> definitely childhood trauma. >> Sure. >> Uh Kyle >> and that's this is again you're helping me explain why now. Right now I'm starting to understand a little bit more like this is the stuff that gives me a better picture of the situation and when I type out my report I can kind of say hey this is the things that can maybe be led to this right and so we have childhood trauma right we we have addiction like any other maybe addiction whether it be alcohol or drugs or gambling um those evolve right it's not typically something where somebody just stays like I only drink four beers a day and that's it. That's my cut off. Four beers turned into six. Six turns into six beers plus some card alcohol that turns into drinking and driving, right? Like that involves >> and or getting into fights. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think this is where we're at with you that you were you started maybe with just some regular Right. and they didn't quite get where you needed to go and so you continued on and you kind of maybe found yourself looking for younger and younger and younger and this is the realm that you ended up in and you didn't intend to but that's the real you end up in would you say that's probably accurate? >> Not about the younger and younger and younger. The lowest that I I want to go is like age of consent. >> What was the age of consent to you? >> Well, for the state it's 17. For federal it's 18. >> What's [clears throat] the you search for >> that I actively search for? >> Yeah. like like typical on teens, college students. Okay. Um you never search for pre-teens, anything like that? >> No, sir. I unless if it was whenever I was younger, because I did get on whenever I was like 15 15 Okay. Excuse [clears throat] me. >> 15 14 I don't remember. >> So you started watching when you're about that age? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Um, so you wouldn't say that you've developed a deeper addiction that you've basically been able to kind of hold off. And even though we've had >> outside of outside of that, I've kept myself into Hello. um kept myself into like trying to go older and older, trying to stay away from technically college student. Okay, I I want you to know too that we've seized all your devices. We seized your cell phone. All right, we will go through all of that. And here's the interesting thing again when we go through these files. Um, when you look at the metadata, it shows when those files were added to those folders, right? So, if you're telling me that this only happened once, it should show me that all that metadata occurred on the same date. But when I start going in there and start seeing, oh, this happened a few days, this happened a few days later, this happened a few days later, that's going to go against you, right? Do you understand that? And it's going to make you look like a liar. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. And when people see that, when a jury sees that and says this guy's a liar, they're going to show they're they're going to guilty right away. They're not going to care one bit because this guy's a liar. Right? But again, I've seen it [clears throat] in cases where person shows remorse and truthfulness and says and ownership over things and says, "Okay, well, this guy made a mistake, but based on everything else, like you don't have a criminal history. You don't have anything, right? So, >> other than possibly >> No, I don't even have a criminal record that I know of. >> Yeah. So, it's not I'm not we're not going to see this like evil guy that's out there making a bunch of, you know, you're not making you're not doing stuff like that, right? So, which route are we going to choose? The the honesty and say, "Yeah, I did look at some of that stuff. I did save some of those folders." or we're going to look at the I don't know how those got there. >> Like I I will admit that I did save them. >> Okay. >> And I did look at them once. >> Okay. >> Over and was all like, "Oh god, no. >> I appreciate your honesty." >> Like I >> Right. That takes it takes takes takes balls to be honest and own. Right. >> Like I I will take full honesty on it. I did open it. I did save it and then well actually I saved it before I opened it and then I was like wow you went back just once and looked at it later on saying >> well more so like I I was like what was this because sometimes my brain like >> okay >> I needed to beat myself on the head with the stick. >> Let me ask you this personal question here. All right. Did you ever do those photos of those girls? >> No. I I have a niece. I actually have a couple nieces and I've I don't want that life. Okay. >> No, sir. Um, have at any point touched any child under the age of 18? >> No. >> When you're above the age of 18? >> No, sir. I do not. Hey, I don't know about that. >> Look at what came right before the admission. Not new evidence. A warning about evidence no one had examined yet. Metadata, the timestamps recording when each file was added. John's account rested on a single event. One save, one look. Dated files are exactly the kind of record that can confirm that or break it. Wilson paired the warning with a choice. Honesty or a jury that sees a liar. That's pressure, not proof. Whether the files show one save is a question for forensics, not for this room. Um, [clears throat] so when we go through your phones and when we go through your computers, do you think we're going to find additional stuff on there other than normal? Um, because again, the devices that we use, it's a technology that just pulls all the information out. So, I see everything from beginning to end. Deleted information. Um, cuz that's stored still on the uh on some of the hard drive stuff. Um, we're able to put that back together and see. So, um, it's better now for me to know like, hey, you might find a few more images versus, you know, I've sat across here from a guy who's like, uh, yeah, I might have like an image or two and I found, you know, additional 500, right? It's a huge difference. No. And the guy has to go testify in court. Be like, "This guy's a complete liar. No remorse. So, are we going to find anything else?" >> Unless of a I want it. I could have accidentally saved it to my phone. >> Okay. >> And I don't remember how many. >> Okay. Um, [clears throat] what's your password to your iPhone? 21. Wait. No, that's not it. 21 cord. No, that's I have so many pins on my head on my brain due to all my cards. Well, more so Door Dash card, my bank card, my like like other face >> face ID. I can't remember which one it is because I use like 21 uh 21 for 21. Would I have permission to go on your phone? >> Yes. >> Okay. If I get consent form, would you sign the consent form? >> Yes. >> How about your computers? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um All right. Before we leave here, we're going to get those that taken care of. Um, and you said you this was all done in this anominous act. [music] >> The Yes, a majority of it. >> Okay. So, you didn't know who's >> I didn't know who it was. I just >> uh another question I need to be honest with too is did you pay for those folders? >> No, sir. >> They just sent you. >> I They just sent me them. I do not send money. I do not like sending the money at all because scammers. >> Sure. Um, did you ever And you said you never personally requested images of younger girls? Not off the top of my head. >> Not top of my head. >> Probably whenever I was like 17 or eight or not 18. uh like high school. >> And what do you mean by I guess in your mind which year girls back when you were in high school? >> Like 8th up to 9th. Well 8 to 8th grade more so whenever I was like freshman, sophomore. You were searching for freshman soccer girls age >> like in the same school as me but more so just that was typically just trying to be in a relationship. Sure. >> Sure. But were you searching for nude photos of >> No. No. Not like actively searching for them. I was more so. >> Have Have you ever had conversations with young people online or twice and then after I like I don't like I'll have a conversation with them. >> At any point did you ever ask to meet up with them? >> No. >> At any point did you ask them for photos? Videos? >> Not off the top of my head. At any point, have you ever since a photo or video of yourself uh in the nude to another age? >> Not off the top of my head. I I have whenever they were older. [clears throat] >> I mean, they say not off the top of my head. >> Well, not Well, I'm I'm more so referring to I've sent them to older. I just it it could have been whenever I was drinking and I just >> So you're saying there's >> that there's like a small >> the possibility you sent nude photos of yourself to >> Well, not not really. I not really >> not not like full on like oh hey I did. It's like, oh, hey, I don't know if I actually did. I I mean, >> because I kind of do get blackout drunk. >> Okay. >> Trying trying to go to sleep. >> Okay. I understand that. Um >> because Well, >> sure. I I can understand that. Um, I just I mean I'm not one to send new photos. Uh, I think I would recall if I'd sent some to somebody. I mean, I guess do you do on a regular basis that you could have not remember? Like is that like do you do it regularly? No. >> Okay. So you don't do it regularly enough to it could >> So you do it on a limited >> like more so it's a hey whenever I'm drunk but yet also it's typically it it's more so with an older lady. >> Sure. >> But you're saying that you you could there's a possibility that you could have done it with somebody younger but you just don't recall because you know I've been drunk. Is that what you're saying? Yes, sir. >> Okay. All right. Where would you have done that on? >> Snapchat. >> Snapchat. Okay. What's your Snap usual ID? >> Uh um why did you create all these other emails uh on your Gmail account? Okay. Um and again, they have like when you put your date of birth in there, you put your actual date of birth. I mean, you use fake names. A lot of them was the ash uh relation to to that. Um but again IP addresses and your recovery emails all would come back to your state ashure. Um you wouldn't use those to get another way. >> Not off the top of my head. >> Were you using those to try to cover your tracks on things? No. Sorry. Okay. [clears throat] All right. Um, do you have any questions for me >> other than how long is roughly? >> How long is what? >> How how long would I be roughly here for? >> Uh, we're going to jail for this. Um, or be charged with possession. Uh, [clears throat] how many counts up to the state's attorney? Um, we have at least 24 images. Um each image can charge individually. So um those are clear images. These aren't like age undetermined. You know there's unfortunately in these situations when you have a kid like this, right? This girl would be abused and because you're receiving it, even though you're not actually doing anything with this girl, um you're exploiting her for this girl. She's being exploited because of you. These two girls being exploited because of you. This girl being exploited because of you. Those other girls all being exploited unfortunately, right? They're being victimized to trauma just like you unfortunately experienced as a child. They're now continuously being victimized. Um and so this is this is a pretty serious thing. Uh but how they charge it, how many charges or charges you get will get to them. Essentially, you'll uh you'll be in jail at least overnight, maybe two nights, and then they'll have a hearing and determine whether to hold you or not hold you until your court date. All right. Yes, sir. >> So, that's what's next. Let me grab real quick. I'll be right back here. Jason John's was charged with six felony counts of possessing child sexual abuse material involving a child under the age of 13. In November 2025, he pleaded guilty to three of those counts. He was sentenced to 10 years in the Illinois Department of Corrections with credit for 44 days already served. The children in these images have never been named and they never should be, but they are not abstractions. Each time this material is saved or shared, the harm done to them is carried forward. If you ever come across child sexual abuse material online, don't share it and don't investigate it yourself. Report it to the cyber tip line at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children or to police where you live. If you value real police interrogations, critical moments, and the investigative strategies that uncover the truth, subscribe to Evidence Lab Interrogation and turn on notifications so you don't miss the next interrogation. 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