They're not going to get fine today or tomorrow. I know that. Oh, I know that they're not going to get fine today. I understand. I know. I got that. I got that. >> So, they can they can I try to resolve this the easiest way possible. Okay. But I got you. It doesn't matter. Simple stuff like this, simple stuff like this is petty to me. No, no, no. Listen to me. Please listen to me. Simple stuff like this, let him run this thing for the school. This to me is petty stuff that you guys are doing. I want to let you know that right now. You going for the state, his license, check his record, that's you can do all that. you. That's fine. I don't that's other stuff that you can do. But I'm just talking about this is a 10-minute thing that he needs to do for the school. You you got your restraint. What are you got your restraint? You guys are fighting all the time. >> Attorney does not think it's petty. They can call our man. >> All right. >> All right. So, um >> Okay. So, I spoke to Captain Hovsky. That was Friday. Okay. Uh they had one of the server processors come serve me a paper uh which pretty much had but this was the original document unbeknownst to the deputy. Okay. It was the original document dated for October the 4th. October 4th he had did an injunction order on me uh Jeremy and it to said that I wasn't allowed here on property cuz the judge really didn't know that hey me and my wife we own a business here. We me and my wife we own a business here. I come after hours and just do this and forth. >> So on October 7th, I had did a restraining order. A counter uh I was a county respondent did a restraining order on him and um and that's the order that stands cuz I was the latest order October 7th. >> So when she came here, when she came here Friday, she gave me this. >> Who is that? >> Um the lady that she serves the paper. She works for the sheriff's department. She's a deputy. She served me the paper and I'm saying but it was a clip cuz we had we never seen each other yet in court because we kept doing statuses. >> Yeah. >> So she came um >> I'm sorry. She came she served me this paper and I'm like and she was like oh you're not allowed on property. I'm like what are you talking about? That's not that's not the newest order. >> That's not the newest order. She said well where's the newest order? I showed her the newest order. She was like well unbeknownst to her it's not really her fault. She's saying she can only go based on what's on here, which is this order, yada yada. >> So, I had called I'm like I'm like, "No, this is the newest order, the one dated October um the one which was dated October the 7th that says that tells us that we both are allowed here, but we've got to refrain from the property." So, long story short, I had to go to um I had to go to the courts. I had to go to Bar County and they gave me a different packet with the correct order on there. the most recent. >> So, this one's just kind of like this is this it's not garbage, but you're not this this packet. You don't really >> It was a clinical error cuz they were supposed to put the counter >> order on. This is the packet that we're using now. >> Correct. That's the packet we're using now. And I just they said that this is a service packet. It's just it's all she was supposed to tell me was give me those first three papers that give me a new court date, not go through the whole nine. You're not allowed here yada yada yada yada. Like not not do all that. So I just wanted to get this served cuz I know him. He'll call cuz I had spoke to Captain H. I said, "Captain H, look this is my order." He said, "Look, it all depends on the deputy that goes out there." >> Okay. >> Uh if if they interpret that your order is the newest order, he said, "Go to the court, go get a proper packet so that they'll be able to see like this is the newest order." >> Okay. >> So this right here is just it's the same thing. >> The only difference is on this. I'm known as a counter respondent. You'll notice here it says counter on here. This was the first person first. >> Okay. >> That he had did. >> Where's he at? >> Um he's in that white. Hold on. Let me make sure my original order cuz I got to keep a copy. >> Okay. >> Yeah, this is Okay. This is the most This is the most stated recent order right here. October 7th, 2024. I'm going to put He's going to argue with you. That's who he is. Drop the paper off the police. >> Yeah, he's going to argue with you. He's combative. He argues with every deputy that ever comes out here. >> I just don't want no problems that if he calls, he shows him that old packet. Now, you know, deputy come here think I'm an armed guy or I'm not supposed to be here. And then, you know, >> I don't want that to happen. >> Yeah. >> So, I'm sure you probably read the nose. This is probably like a 30th service car. I hate to be a car. Yeah, it's just I just want to make sure that I'm covered. I'm all it's saying is that we got a new court date >> on No, this is saying that this is dated. We got a new court date on the 19th. >> Yeah, cuz that's dated to or yesterday. >> That was yesterday cuz the judge I had to go we had I had to call the judge's assistant. We had to make the thing all this is and this is the original documents that I had to do. He has all these papers already. Okay. >> Our main focus is this. Just these three top papers that says >> So he just needs them. You don't you don't need him to sign anything. He just he just You just want me to serve them and he takes papers. >> Correct. Like Yeah. Just Yeah. Serve it. >> All right. Yeah. Let's go over there. >> I don't want to go. I tell you. >> I got you. What's that? Here. What's this house? Is it a house or is it a >> It's a house. You'll see it. >> I got you. But I'm I'm straight up. If I see him, so you're served. If he's not taking papers, I'm dropping that packet right in front of his feet cuz that's over. That's that's all he got >> with the white car in front of it. >> No, that's the school. When you You're not going to miss it. >> You're not going to miss it. But this is his third time get served because >> we've never seen a judge yet and they keep putting us off for status. So every time they put us off for status, if we haven't seen a judge yet, you got to get reserved to extend the order. All this order is saying that we both have to refrain from each other. He has all those documents already. >> But when she came, she telling him something else. I'm like, "My god, you can't tell him that because now he going he going to play crazy." >> What's his address? I don't know if it's like his wife or something. She opened the door and like I guess they're on the phone with an attorney right now. It's like he can't come to the door. So I I wasn't comfortable giving her the packet. I don't want to do that. So I'm waiting. My partner's going to come over here. He know he knows more about uh the situation, everything. He's going to help us out. Yeah, cuz he doesn't want to come to the door so he can know that it's updated package cuz what the lady told him. I have the other officer number as well. >> Okay. >> I'm just I'm waiting for them to come and then we're going to figure it out. >> I told her I'm the middle Yeah, that's what I said. I'm the middle man here. I'm just here to drop the paper off. And she said he can't come right now. She said if you can give me 20 10 or 20 minutes. I said uh I'll be here. So he's going to come over here right now. He he knows a lot more into this legal stuff uh about the >> which one? >> Uh Le Deputy Le just know he knows more with uh how to how to handle the uh the packets and all that. >> Oh >> yeah. But if you have every get get all your paperwork and all that Captain Hoffman say, "Hey, look." >> Yeah. And they kind of drew Captain Hen in the middle of this early on with this whole debacle. So Captain don't even really like coming over here. You know what I'm saying? If it's up to him, he won't come. But he told me if it's me, I'll take care of custod >> which is that so they can reserve him the proper way. >> Yeah. But this is all the most up to date. >> Yeah. >> All right. I hate repeating the story, but you're going to have to tell them. >> Yeah. It's just so we all all know what's up. All right. This is the most upto-ate package. >> Did this company kind of have like an envelope or something? Long story short, October 4th, we did a restraining order. I'm known now as a counter. I did counter. I was responding and now they updated. Me and my wife got me right here, which is preschool. >> Yeah, I'm I'm aware of the situation. Um >> the issue is if we can't make contact, then we can't serve this. >> Oh, I'm fine. family contact. I just as long as I have my papers in the state. This was there was an American error Friday where a deputy came out. The deputy came out and gave me this but this was the original order which doesn't state me as a counter. >> This doesn't state me as a counter. I just was doing this for due diligence. So, mine is the most important. >> Yeah. So, but it's like I said, regardless of if it's updated or not, if we can't physically make contact with the person who give them a packet, we're kind of limited in what we can do. If we can't make contact, then we can't we can't serve them. >> So, what I what my suggestion for you is I would maybe do this like during business hours, reach out to an attorney. I know they probably have an attorney. Um but but right now I mean it's it's almost 6:00 you know and he's not so you have Yes. All right. Yes. Um instead of coming out here on your own attorney because hasn't this been going on for a while attorney? >> Yeah. No, we're we're just here and they had to update the package which gives me say hey I'm not saying no update says property then I have to have so I was just for my due diligence trying to here's a packing trying to expedite things yeah here's a packing cuz I have stuff here to do and I don't want him cuz he's a he's a very fictional guy where he'll get on the phone and say hey there's a Where where is he? >> He's in the house right now. And where do you want to be? No. Uh 7:01 gym preschool. I'll be here for about another hour or two. I just didn't want him to call officers and say, "Hey, there's a guy that doesn't belong here." And then there's a who wants to call it's underneath. Okay. So, originally it was owned by the church. church is ran by the board 501c3. The same board that hired him attempted to fire him and they now he didn't want to go. So being so said, "Hey, we don't want nothing to do with this. Y'all deal with it in court." So it's them going through court. The court saying, "Hey, we don't want nothing to do with it because it's an ecclesiastical doctrine where the church does not get involved where the courts doesn't get involved with the church." So now they're pushing for arbitration and our our authority in civil matters are very limited. >> Yeah. Absolutely. So I just didn't want him. I don't want I'm not trying to like make this like I just didn't want him. >> Oh no. This what I just say this has been a big deal for Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Captain, Sergeant Hernandez, Deputy Lens, everybody done been out. It's been over 20 30 service calls. I just trying to do my due diligence. >> So what is and this is just for my own uh information. What are you trying to accomplish? Are we just trying to get him out of the building? >> Eventually he's going to get out of the building. Okay. But what I'm trying to call this >> You represent the church. >> I'm No, I'm preschool. We kind of got dragged into it. So >> Okay. So you run the preschool. >> Me and my wife, we run the preschool. >> Okay. The church runs the church. >> The church runs the church. >> And this guy is attached to the church, but because the preschool is attached to the church, you're kind of in the middle of it with him. >> Yes. >> And what are you trying to get? Just get him to leave you alone as far as the the preschool goes. >> Yeah. cuz he comes like we'll bring a contractor out here. He's fired but we'll bring contractor out here and he'll kind of chase the contractor down and say hey you have no authority to be herea d like anybody will bring here he plays as if he runs the building but he really doesn't. >> And what does he do for the church? >> Um nothing he just he has service. So do we have mass here at all? I mean there's two split services people that don't agree with him and the very few that agree. So one go in one room, the other one go in another. It's just a big match. >> Yeah, it's just a big one. >> All right. So people that come here that that don't like him and they go in their own room for a separate mass that he's in the room as I'm surprised you guys aren't well not you guys cuz they're preschool. But I'm surprised that the church isn't losing prisoners because of it. >> Oh, they have. Absolutely. It was a congregation. >> I if I'm coming to church to go to church, I'm not dealing with that. So >> yeah, absolutely. Yeah. They've lost tons of people. It's very few people left. Yeah. And and that's what pays the bills. >> Yeah. >> No, we work on school. >> Yeah. But eventually you're going to get tired of the [ __ ] too. >> Yeah. Absolutely. >> We're in the process of getting like finding someone new, but you got to deal with it. >> Is he kind of like the superintendent as well? What was >> he he was an interim pastor? >> Okay. But because they didn't go through a contractual attorney and didn't get their bylaws updated, they kind of shot themselves in the foot. So, it's like tooth and nail trying to get them out. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. Sorry we can't help you tonight, but this meeting will be documented. I will call your lawyer tomorrow. Okay. Um maybe the lawyer can serve his lawyer. >> Yeah, he won't. >> I thought I this was all I haven't been here so long. I thought all this was done when they been here. Oh, they've been here. >> Yeah. So, what do we got going on now? >> Um, >> so what they first of all, what did they do? >> We got to do a fire alarm. Uh, me and him, we got a restraining order against each other now. >> Oh, now you guys got restrain. >> First of all, how's this work out when you're so close? >> Um, the verbiage on there says refrain from each other. >> Pretty much it. So, >> okay. Go. All right. >> Long story short, I don't want to break any windows. I'm trying to handle this amicably, right? >> They need to do a fire drill. My So my director reached out to him because we just am look at me. We have access to that. It's on our lease. We can go wherever we want. >> So show me what what is the So what do you mean lock off? No, it's the office. Where's the office at? It's over here. Okay. I'm pretty sure it's in the office. >> So when you have to Okay. The office is right there, right? >> Correct. And that's where fire panel is. >> What do you mean? >> Um the fire alarm panel. >> Oh. So, what do you need to do with the fire lock? >> We need to put it in test mode because we have to have one every month. But now, since we have this refrain restraining order, I can reach out to them for you. >> You can't? >> Yeah, I can't. They reached out. >> So, how long does this take? >> Um, it doesn't take long at all. We have access to them, but I'm not trying to break any doors or do anything. >> Oh, so there's no locks or change or anything like that? >> Yeah, he changed it every time he changes the locks. >> So, you can't get in then? >> No, we can't get in. So, how does that work in the restraining order if you have to go all the way over there to do a fire alarm thing? Who requires you to test the fire alarm? >> Uh, the state. >> Okay. So, that's a state issue thing that you have to do. >> Correct. Okay. No, no, no. Like I said, I don't you know the rules about the school? I don't know. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, and there the only way into that office is through that door. >> Correct. >> Is anyone there now? >> I believe he's in. But all we're saying is this thing is, oh, call my attorney. No, we need a fire alarm done. We're not trying to break in. We're trying to do >> Give me a second. So, what's his name again? So, what is it? Jeremy. >> So, you So, you had a key for this door at one time? >> Uh Tom did. >> Who's Tom? >> Uh >> the other guy who works in the church, >> correct? >> So, when you do the fire alarms before, did you get Tom? Did somebody do it with you or what? >> Yeah, Tom usually with Tom cuz Tom's our landlord just so we don't have >> So, where's Tom at now? >> He's working. But we have access in our leash >> that says that you can just do it. You don't have to wait for >> We don't have to wait for him. And I know legally I can break through the door and I won't get charged. No, no, no. Yeah. >> I mean, well, in your lease, you can do the And what was your lease for one? I'm just curious. >> Um, no. It tells us everywhere we have access to. >> Okay. So, this is where you have access to. Yeah, >> correct. We have everywhere. Everywhere we have access to. We have access to the whole property at this point because of what's been going on. We had to get our lease in. So this would be cuz that's this is goes to the gym, correct? >> Correct. Okay. Y >> and the panel is like right where those little things are. >> Yeah, correct. The panel's right over there. >> Oh, call my attorney. No, you don't run those shots over here. We asking you for something, but we got to Right. >> So, have you ever had a key to that door? >> Even though you had access to the whole building, did you ever have key that key to that? >> They didn't want a key point in time. at a point in time >> before this Jeremy situation got correct. We had it at a point in time. When did you guys when did you guys get restarted? You got to restart each other. >> Yeah. On each other. >> Are you involved in the rest? >> No. Okay. No. No. That's just I'm just asking. >> My good stuff. >> Okay. So, how long did you get the restraint or roughly curious? It is on the 4th of October. >> So, so recently just >> Yeah. And I had got one the counter October 7th. I had probably sold and let me back off. >> I I think Sash kind of strange you were able to get a restraining that you guys were disclosed to be honest with you. >> Yeah. No, no. The way he did his restraint on the paper made it seem like I don't have no business. >> So then what happened? >> They did the research and saw all the service calls and saw everything documented. So once they see everything documented out, boom. Okay, this makes sense. He's supposed to be on the property. This is what's going on. Let's change the verbage on. >> So what does the verb check? It says we both >> Oh yeah, that's right. >> I thought this riff raff was all done, man. I thought this riff rap was all done. So what we got going on here? >> I have no idea. >> Oh, okay. Yeah, you can't contact Now you got refrain. You can't contact anything. I don't. He says he doesn't have a key anymore. Per the state doesn't have a key to what? >> This door right here. >> He does not. >> Well, um on his on his lease, it allows him because here's the reason why. Per the state of Florida cuz he it's a school. He has to test his fire alarm once a month. The pad is he tells me right here. But yeah, but but understand uh but he he's >> it's something that he's got to do with the state. It should be have to go with the attorney attorney attorney. >> Okay. Um I know you got a restrain order. Now his restrain order it's been changed. I saw that you got a restraint for him and now he got you know he's got a second restraining order of course, right? Okay. Yeah. So as long as you guys don't talk but he's allowed to conduct his school business. He's like, >> he doesn't he Yes, he is. He has a lease. He has a lease over you. Again, we we talked about that. You have to work through the attorneys whether you've got to get him evicted or whatever, but he has a Are you still going over the over the fighting with Tom over the church? >> Um, yeah. Are you telling that? I haven't been here for a while. So, which I thought which I thought, yay, everything's worked out. Um, but he he's been at the school. I've documented several times he's allowed to be at the school because it's his business here and he has a he has a but other things going on with his being allowed at the school that >> cuz he he's he's been convicted of aggravated battery. >> He is >> I'll try to double check that. But I I'm but last time I was here um about the gym stuff I didn't see any of that. Um, so what I'm saying is the restrain order allows him, which I I looked at, he showed it to me, allows him to conduct his business and all it says while at this his property. You guys, Hi, how are you? >> Hi, how are you? >> Oh, pretty good. I haven't been here for a while. >> I know. >> Um, to conduct his business and that business if especially state related, if he doesn't get it, he gets caught, which should not happen. He needs to do his business. He need to come in. >> Well, no, there needs to come. He needs to come in. >> They owe us $400,000. >> Well, that that's that's >> talk to the attorney. >> Yeah. And that's what we brought to the state. So, you don't have a directive from the state. >> So, you're not going to let him do his fire. You're not going to let him in there. We're not let >> He needs to contact the attorney. >> Absolutely. >> Which is what we told him this morning. >> And our attorney told them that Yeah. Everything everything should go through these. Any request that they have can go through, >> but not when but not when he's conducting his school business at the school. It says that it says that on the restraint. >> He's a convicted felon. He's not even supposed to be on this property. >> Unless I miss something. >> You missed it because there's a court date. Look, look it up >> for him. >> We have a court date on his restraining order. He is a convicted. >> Correct. Yeah, cuz you guys were served on you were served on the 7th. When's your court date? When November coming up, November 19th coming up short 19th. But um no, you you need to go with the if you have a court order, that's one thing. But >> he doesn't need a court order every time to use it. He does cuz he's not allowed to use it. [Music] >> This is why the Department of Education is >> is involved and we're getting our directives from them and the attorney. >> So state regulations, he does. Listen, that's going to be between the state if the state decides to revoke his teaching license. The state revisates that. Okay? I I don't investigate um stuff like that. I investigate >> and it would have been a whole lot easier for them to do what I asked and say anything that they need to do, direct it through our attorney. Our attorney can answer their questions. If anything needs to be arranged, it can be arranged through our attorney. Does not need to be arranged through BSO. >> BSO. >> They've got our attorney's number. We provided that to him today. >> But his his >> They're not going to get fined today or tomorrow. They can call our >> I know that. Oh, I know that they're not going to get fined today. I understand. I know. I got them. I got them. >> So, they can they can >> I try to resolve it the easiest way possible. But you But I got you. It doesn't matter. Simple stuff like this. Simple stuff like this is petty to me. No, no, no. Listen to me. Please listen to me. Simple stuff like this, let him run this thing for the school. This to me is petty stuff that you guys are doing. I want to let you know that right now. You going for the state, his license, check his record. That's you can do all that. You That's fine. I don't That's other stuff that you can do. But I'm just talking about this is a 10-minute thing that he needs to do for the school. You You got your restraint. What? You got your restraint. You guys are fighting all the time. That's >> funny does not think it's petty. They can call. I understand that. >> That's it. That's it. We're done. >> We can call I need your ID. I got to do a report. >> Yeah, I I know I have it in there, but this is all easier. Let me just try to look at everything. >> As I said, because of this, I document everything. >> That's fine. In our stance is anything that they, you know, they want can be arranged through the attorney. You know, no contact order doesn't mean call BSO when they need to. >> So, you guys don't help us when they're breaking into all these areas they don't have a lease for. And the answer here telling me to give him a key. >> Who did? >> You did. You said he doesn't have a key. He needs to have a key to get him. >> I haven't been here since the time with the camera. >> Just now you >> I didn't ask him to give him a key. I asked him, "Does he have a key?" >> Does he have a key? >> Okay, that's what I asked him. Not give him a key cuz he I don't think he needs a key for this because he's schooled over there. But he does for his lease. It says he has access to that to run the fire alarm. It says in his lease though, but listen. >> You want Do you want to see the valid lease? You took the time to look at his lease. Do you want to see the lease? >> Your valid lease is going to be different than his lease because you're saying that you listen. Jeremy, listen. Jeremy, listen to me. Because yours I already know yours is going to be different. Okay? Because you two are fighting over the ownership of the church. So, you keep saying his lease is invalid cuz he has it from Tom. I don't need to read your lease cuz I already know it's going to be I already know it's going to be different. Well, I'm just confused of why you took the time to read his. >> I'm going with the rest. I'm going with his restraining order, which changes not from from some other stuff cuz yours is different from his restrain order. Yours is dated the 4th. His dated the 7th, which changes it to that now just contact instead of the other uh verbiage that it was. That's what I'm saying. Okay. Yes, I know the leases are going to be different. I cuz I I know what's going on here. I got that. I'm not It's not that I don't need to or want. I already know it's going to be different because you're I mean I believe what you're telling me is what's going to be on the lease because you keep saying that he shouldn't even be here. I got that. And then and you're going to say Tom's lease is invalid because he is right. See I I I don't need to go over and over and over. I'm just trying to resolve it. This little quick issue. You keep fighting over the the the the property that get them evicted. Do what you're doing with the school with the state that that you can do all that. I'm just talking about this one little thing. Get it done and be done with it. and that and that's it. But I'm going to go ahead let them go through the lawyers. I'm not going to get, you know, I'm just going to document that I was here, what you said, what he said, >> and I'll let the I'll let the lawyers work it out. >> Thank you. >> And two, if I'm not, it's either going to open the door or I'm going to break the window to get into the door. I've done it before. >> It's up to It's >> See, that's why I say this would be a lot easier. >> Alteration for you on that. >> Hold on a second. You have your ID. I understand. You have your ID. >> Yo, listen. I came to talk to Listen, I This is My god. No, I >> At what point does this sound criminal to me? >> This is not criminal. >> At what point does it sound? I'll get a sergeant over here. I'll get a sergeant. I'll get a Listen, I'll get a sergeant over here. I'll get a sergeant. Please touch me on my deputy. Oh, no. His intent wasn't really to hurt you. Like, at what point do we use >> Well, you also got What do we break down? I need your idea. I need idea. You need to have Is that your wife? Is that your wife? She should be Maybe she should be filming it. You guys have filming everything. >> Well, I didn't invest. I wasn't here. I was in here. So, this >> I don't stopping me from getting into. That's a charge. >> All right. Well, let me get a let me get a sergeant over here. >> Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. What's up? What's up? If you allow him to break in, it's not going to do >> I'm not allowed to do anything. That's why I'm calling my sergeant. >> It's not going to do any good. Because let me tell you why. To turn the panel on test so that the fire department cut doesn't come when we run the drill, >> we have to call the account that we pay for that we monitor and give them permission with so just let him know. Breaking in doesn't do nothing. The panel, you have to have the account to call the company. >> He doesn't have his own account on his school. He doesn't. >> Do you have your own account on the school? >> Do you have your own account on the school or is this whole building on one account? >> I'm sorry. >> Is this whole building on one account or doesn't matter? They don't pay for it. It doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. That matters nothing. We pay We pay our rent. >> That covers the cam cost to that. >> We don't pay rent to them. They're not our landlord. We have checks. >> Yeah. See, see here's here's what's going on. See here. >> They told me to stay away from from a line. Do you have do you have cuz when you get served you have an affidavit that they have to fill out. Do you have that? You know what I'm talking about? Do you know when you get served? Do you know when you get served when you get served don't they show you a packet of why you were served with the return which will have his affidavit filled out >> everything? No. Everything why he was able or why he's getting a restraining order. >> Yeah. >> So you have that. >> I got to go through it. >> Yeah. Okay. >> No, I got that. No, I got that. I got that. >> All right. Just stand listen. Just do me a favor. Just stand over there. Just stand away for that. Got my sergeant on the way. Here's a case card so I don't forget. >> This is Hold on. Here's 11. Hold on. I got to say this. I got to say this a lot. >> I'm listening. I'm listening. >> Listen. I know you It's overwhelming. Listen. 10. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. One sec. Hold on one second. 10 24. >> Listen. I got I got a sergeant on the way. >> He touched me. Oh, nah. It ain't done. At what point? >> All right. Just do me a favor. Wait. Okay. Do me a favor, Jeremy. Just hang tight. I got my sergeant coming over. All right. I don't I don't want this to get more than it is. And if he's in the forces, I don't want >> Hey, David. So, >> just hang tight. I got my sergeant coming. And >> maybe the sergeant's coming, David. So, I guess we can >> But do you understand what we're saying about even if he broke in here? >> He didn't again to me. That's reading Greek. The fire count's Greek to me. I don't know. No, I'm saying but no. Did you tell him that that he wouldn't be >> He says he pays the fire. I like again he said well >> again I don't know. >> I don't know >> if he tries to call city fire and do anything they won't listen to him because you have to have the password. >> Again I have no idea. Um that's going to be the case. Sergeant's on her way Vander. >> Okay. Okay. Do me a favor. I this went all the way up to my captain. Okay, as I explained to him, we had a big school fight. We have a lot of things that went down the city. This test can wait. Okay, do me there. The captain is going to get a lieutenant is going to get somebody out here. I'm keeping the call open. Okay, it's it's not I'm not closing this call out. The captain's aware of it. We will get somebody out here later. >> Which captain? >> Uh Captain Hoffen, >> he's coming back out. I don't know if he's coming or not, but the the our very the um sergeant couldn't leave the scene, so he called the captain or lieutenant lieutenant called captain. I don't know who called who, but our sergeant could leave the scene because of everything that we have happened cuz we had a 15 students fight at the school. We had stuff out west. We we've been a little busy tonight. That's that's why it took a little longer to get here. They probably told us the call. So So do me a favor. Just hang tight. Um >> look, see, let me show you this. No, I got one. >> Let me go. This is a slow back. I had this is what they come out here police officer. This is me asking him. >> Hold on. Good afternoon. >> Okay. >> Good afternoon. Have been I I asked him, hey, you had no authority to change and again restrict our access to this. >> What does your lawyer say about this? >> My lawyer said back and forth and for nothing. >> Well, I don't what I don't understand with this court order stuff and I don't understand. You have pictures of a battery. Where's a battery at? Whereas he pushed you. >> Oh, the picture. >> No, the picture. No, no, video. Video. Okay. >> Oh, the video. This is >> Did they do Did they do a report for that? >> Um, it's on the call log. They didn't give me a case number. It granted it wasn't He pushed like he grabbed my hand. Granted, it wasn't >> like were you going in the going in or something like that? Like like what what what were you I'm be Jeremy. What were you doing? What did you do? >> And then what happened? >> Um >> like he's Jeremy. We're arguing. >> His wife is next to him. Of course, the antagonist. So I'm my my line is quite is going to both of them boom and I'm kind of talking to his wife at this point. Act like she's right here and he kind of like hey to kind of get my attention but no >> I understand he touch you. I got that I got he touched you. I got it. I got >> it. If I would have bam guess who y'all would have took? >> I'm the younger fit. >> But also great which unfortunately he will not allow us access to there's video here. So there will be video but he won't allow to it. You could probably talk to >> No, we have access to access to that. >> So, it's not on video. >> It's on video >> when your lawyer says don't because you can also if you have video like that, you can also go to the state attorney and follow with him. >> That That's what they said. If the state attorney chooses to >> Correct. Correct. I mean I mean that is You're right. No. Is it a battery? Yes, it's a battery. But >> his intent Yeah. The lady said. >> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. His intent was not to hit you. Right. But you still don't want to be touched like that cuz batteries the unwanted touching by another I got with batteries. I've done this doing this for years and years. But do me a favor. Hang tight. I'm not closing the call out. >> Yeah, I don't know when if you have to leave. If you have to leave or whatever you >> Okay. If you have to leave or whatever call tomorrow >> at what point >> is considered at what at what point? >> Get here. Do me a favor. A court order is that that restraint is a court order. What you should have done is in that court order said that you could leave you need access to that room. >> I don't have to. My lease says that >> your your lease may say that but that's civil. I don't enforce leases. I don't enforce leases. What I enforce is court orders. So why don't you get your go call get them quick get them listen. Get them to go in that and change that court order saying that you need access to that for your school for your test. And if you have that, do you know how much that helps? Listen, you know how much that helps me? >> Take that. >> Oh, he's watching. I don't care. I want to tell him the same thing. I'm telling him the same thing. >> Listen, >> I don't need a court order for somewhere permitted. >> But you understand here. But you understand they're fighting. They're fighting over ownership of the church. So they believe your lease is no good. That's what they believe. Listen. Listen to listen. That's civil. That is 100% civil. >> What they believe? But listen, I understand that. I'm following the law. I'm following the law. That is civil. I do not enforce leases. I don't enforce how many people live at a house that aren't on the lease. I just we don't do that. Correct. That but court orders we enforce. So if it says on that restraining order, you cannot have contact but you are able to go in the office to use it for the test I can enforce that. And then if he wants to throw me or you out, I can arrest him. You see what I'm saying, >> but but do you understand what I'm saying? You understand what I'm saying? I hear what you're saying. have to go. >> He doesn't have that. If I go over there and break that window, honestly, you can't arrest me, Deputy Lton. >> You're right. Because it's it's a civil matter. And you say you have a lease. You have a lease. You're right about it. And I'm trying to stop that. >> Yeah. Look, I'm trying to handle it and I got that. I >> That's why I called you. >> I told I listen, I even told him he's being petty for that one little thing. Whatever you guys are fighting for, you're fighting. That's that's whatever. But this one little thing. But anyway, let me go talk to him. We are busy. Call will stay open. The call will stay open. The captain's aware of this call. He's going to get somebody over here. Okay. All right. I know. I know. I try to be. Yeah. So, just stay over there and I understand. I understand. >> All right. Um, Sergeant, like I said, we got busy with that school. We got like so many people detained right now. The sergeant can't make it here. Captain called me. He said, "Keep this case open." I told him, "Don't do anything." I mean, cuz technically he can break that window. He can go in and there's going to be a big fight. People are going to get arrested. I'm trying to say I'm I don't want to have to if I have to rest then we wouldn't. >> But again, well, again, it's a civil matter because your lease is different from his lease. Okay. You you guys are fighting over the property. All right. So to we don't enforce leases. Okay. We we that's irrelevant. We don't enforce a lease because a lease is something that mean I can make a lease with you say my apartment whatever. Blah blah blah blah. So we don't enforce leases. A lease is like we'll get people call they're not a lease. I kicked them out. How long you lived here? A year. That's tough on you. So we don't force leases. We enforce uh restrain orders. Okay. And that restrain order. >> The restrain. Your restraining order was first on the fourth. I saw that one. Um, where he's not allowed to be here. >> He has a new restrain order on the seventh. So, I have to go abide by that one which says no contact between both of you. >> Right. >> He's not supposed to be within 100 ft of all the stand about 20 ft away from >> Well, no. No. Well, actually, I don't know. I don't know if all that's on there because of where your parking is. I listen, I didn't I didn't fully, but just stay away from no talk. So, I told him just go over there. You go in your office. Whatever. I'm not closing this call out. We've got 10 more calls holdings. That's this and again I told him this is not something that's in urgent that we got other stuff that's urgent going on. But he's adamant and he you know he breaks the window. I do I do a report and I let I let >> contact against the restraining order. He breaks into >> he's allowed to he's allowed but but but but listen to me. Listen to him. Listen to me. >> He's standing out here. you get in your truck and leave. Then what? Right. >> Well, yeah. Then he breaks in and then he What's he going to do? First of all, we called the >> again again I looked at his I looked at his lease and the reason why I say I don't have to look at your lease because I already know it's going to be different. I don't need I believe you know what I'm saying cuz I know what you guys are fighting over with Tom. I got that. You know, and then Tom and he's paying Tom. He's not paying you guys. So I already I already know what's going on with that. Nobody is paying the >> I'm going to step around here cuz I don't want you missing. >> Okay, quick question about the fire alarm cuz this is what they're telling me. I don't know the truth of it. I don't know anything about the fire alarm. They're saying that do you do you pay the for the fire alarm at all? What do you pay for? >> Absolutely. We pay for >> Who do you pay? >> We pay >> who do you pay though? Who do you pay for the fire alarm? Who to who though? Who do you pay it to? >> City fire. >> You pay fire. Okay. City. Number two. When's the last time that you had access to that panel to do >> the reason we haven't done it, >> right? >> Trying to handle it amicably. >> I got that. Cool. So, when's the last time you had access to the panel? >> Maybe a few months ago. >> Okay. Is this possible since I don't know. So, I do not know what you have to do. You're saying to me that you have to call the company. You need a certain password or anything for them to put on to put it on top. >> I can call I could It's right down the panel. Well, they said they said they they changed all the passwords and stuff like that. >> I don't care what they changed. >> Well, no, no, but if they did that, are you still able to do the >> Absolutely. Absolutely. And if if it needs to be if they set up passwords, I could just call another servicing company and then they'll then take over that fire panel. >> So then they'll be you'll be fighting over the fire panel like you're fighting over the locks. So, so, so my question for right now is >> what's the look, you're here for hours for them to open and call it a day. I know what we're arguing about. >> This is an hour with a 50year-old man over a fire line. What are we doing here? Come on. I know. I know. >> I understand it. I understand over putting intense smoke. >> I You're right. I do have to go. I called you so we can handle the peace. I'm the peacemaker. >> Do me a favor. Like I said, just stay stay over there. Captain's aware of it. We're going to get you. We're going to get you over here. >> I'm calling you because I have access to get into the office. I'm choosing to go into the office. >> Do me a favor. Do me a favor. Then get talk to your attorney. Have them put on that court order that you have access to. >> We're not appeasing them. We're going to do what's in the letter of the law. >> You understand that? I don't enforce I don't enforce leasings. I don't enforce leasings. you had. But but listen, I don't enforce the lease. I enforce the the um retreat. You see what I'm saying? That's why I asked you. Listen. One second. Listen. Listen. I do have to I know. No. 3 seconds. >> We're out here for 60 minutes. I got You have to tell me. I already know. I already know. I already I already know. I already know. You just wait over there until my You wait over there till Lieutenant Andrew Sergeant comes and I'll be back. Oh god. >> Hey, how you doing? >> All right. All right. We had not we had not forgotten about you. We're we're trying to work we're trying to work out a lot of stuff here. >> We're we're also trying to eliminate this thing. So, we actually been looking at stuff with Tom and and um Jeremy. You know what I'm saying? We're trying we're trying to resolve that issue and the detective is going to be help working on that. So, we're trying to work on this. We're trying to see some other stuff that the just we're trying to resolve the issue completely so you don't have to worry about this anymore is what we're trying to do. Okay. Um right now I know you said you want to go in there, break the glass, do what you got to do for the fire alarm, >> but if you tell me not to, I'm not going to do it. >> Okay. Yeah. I will suggest that you don't listen. Like you said, you're right. You can do what you want, but it's not going to look good. You have a court date coming up, right? >> Correct. Yeah. It's not going to look good. Yeah. >> There you go. Bingo. And two. Yeah. If I may, sorry to interrupt you. Right. Is I I just want you to think about this for a second. >> And we're not giving you legal advice. >> Yeah. Absolutely. >> Yeah. We're just I'm trying to give you a perspective. >> Yes. >> Right. >> So Jeremy filed a restraining order at some point. >> Yes. >> October 4th. And then you filed your own counter order, >> correct? >> And now you guys have dates to go to. Correct. >> Um Yes. The 19th of November. >> Correct. Again, I'm not providing any kind of opinion as to whether he has the right to lock the doors or not. That's a secondary conversation. We I just called him. His attorney and said, "Hey, what's your position about?" We go do the fire drill. He says, "Right now, we're not willing to um to agree to die." >> Yeah. >> Okay. I can't tell you what to do. >> Okay. >> I just want you to consider this. If you go and you break in for the purposes of the fire drill, >> correct? >> You're going to be creating the conditions that support the restraining order that he filed. >> Correct. >> One, two, >> it's going to challenge your order that you filed the court. >> Yes. >> Because now you're the one that's going to be perceived as the one engaging >> him. >> So, I don't think you want that. No, you're not telling me attorney attorney. Listen to this attorney. Just bring this up when you go to court. Say he won't let you do this. He won't let you do this. Bring all this up at court. Do you think um like like you said, you paid Tom your lease and your rent and all that. Correct. Right. Do you think Tom would attend with you to help with like say? >> Yeah, absolutely. Cuz when we go on the 19th, it's for status. Yeah, it's it's for status. Then we're going to go set for trial, of course. But I mean, we could if I have to pull the the station. That's what we did last time because he was in one of his little hissy fits again. So, we had to pull the the pool station. You can't deny the fire department from going in there. >> When you say the pool station, what do you mean? >> The pool station. >> The alarm. >> The alarm actually. The alarm. >> Yeah. Just for us to do the test cuz it's mandated that we do it. >> So, let me ask you this. What exactly is the procedure for executing the test? Um, it's lit. All they do, all he has to do is hit one button on. >> No, I know. But, but for you, let's say, let's say that for whatever reason, >> you don't do it for 3 months. You don't do it for 3 months. What's the fine? What happens to you? >> Well, we got to call our monitor cuz you know, everything is life safety, >> right? >> Everything is life safety. >> Well, my question was more along the lines of is pulling the fire alarm an accepted way of testing the alarm? That's my question. No, not not with the [ __ ] Not really with the fire department. The fire department kind of got mad. They said, "Hey, >> correct. >> Next time we give you three times that fourth time, we're going to start fighting." >> Not only that, if then after that it can actually become criminal. That's where we get involved. Again, none of this helps you. >> Yes. So, and then not only that, I think the ultimately the question that they're going to pose and the court is likely to consider is what was the urgency to go in there and create these conditions? >> Yeah. >> Under the premise, the circumstances that there's obviously a contention already. >> Yes. >> It just it wouldn't help you. >> So, this is just us telling you that this is our position. You know what? We can't tell you what to do. >> Listen to your girl training. >> But I'm dotting my teeth. I mean, I'm dotting my eyes and crossing my course, right? But at what point does this turn criminal like he touches me >> and I'm more of a fit guy than he? I ain't going to say I'm a, you know, fittest guy, you know, but like I could have handled him >> and but then if if that would have then when you're when I called when I called the police officers out there, oh, the intent he touched you, but then the intent, we don't think that he was trying to arm you. >> What What happened that one time? It was this was maybe like this this was mid October. This is what kind of led him. >> So last October, last month. >> Yeah, last month. >> What happened? >> It's like he touched her arm really. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't >> And what were the circumstances? >> We were we were in a verbal uh verbal verbal uh dispute, but it was like it's more so like a tap, you know? >> Were there any witnesses or anything? >> Yeah, there were witness in those videos, but it was like a really slight tap. But needless to say, I don't want you to put your hands on me, period. >> And did you say that? Yes. I don't want you to touch me. >> I mean, we can't stop you from presenting a complaint of, you know, battery. I mean, we'll tell you how to file it. >> Are we going to make an arrest? Not on that on, but I mean, we'll do a report for you. We're never we're never going to tell you no. Um, and that's something that you can present as a report, which I'm sure you are. Correct. Um, I just if you're asking us what our position is, I just want you to have perspective that understands potentially what can happen, which apparently your attorney already told you. >> Yeah. Yeah. My attorney said, you know, I was that was my perspective as well, but like at what point do >> he's bullying it at this point. >> Oh, no. And and you might be right bullying. You might be right. And and you know, >> and his attorney for him not to for his attorney to say no over something so simple, put it in test mode. Let's do it. I'm not communicating with you. Our director's communicating with you. We're trying to make this as amicably as possible. We're But he has to be the Listen, when I see that, that's basically him throwing the bait and see if he's taken. And that's a part where you I I even with my own personnel, I always tell him this. What is the urgency? What is the need for us to create those conditions? Can we can we inject time and space? And I get it. We're all men. We have pride. Yes. We don't want to back out. But we got to think about the bigger picture. And it's one of those things that you already have the attorney. You're working your case. You got to work the case. You have to work the case cuz you take if you take that bait and he's there waiting for you to slip, he's going to take that. He's going to present himself as a victim. And then you're going to have to now revitalize versus take your image. support. >> As far as your fire alarm goes, when's your expiration? When when you have to have it done. >> We have to do it one time every one time every >> one time every has to. >> And uh what what are any sanctions? Have you ever been in a position where you haven't done it and and you get sanctioned? >> Like say for example, so every 4 months, which is every quarter, uh we have what we call a monitor comes from the state. The monitor pops up any day. They can say, "Hey, we noticed you didn't do your fire alarm drills. Why?" and then they can get there and say, "Hey, we need to do a fire alarm right now." So, it was last time where it's like, "Hey, if y'all don't do it, life safety is everything to them, especially with with them kids. They're trying to make sure it's functional." >> Let me ask you this. So, and I don't actually know the answer. What potentially happened to you and the school if you say, "Hey, I have no control over it. These are the circumstances." What can they do as far as business in the school for you? I I would have to call it. That's >> Yeah, I I don't actually know. >> I would have to call. >> Well, quick question and I and I believe I asked this. I can't remember. You're don't You're not associated with church. You're just a tenant, correct? >> Correct. >> Okay. And how long have you been there? >> Have you had to ball park it or do you know exactly? >> This was building. No, we we've been there going on like four or five cuz we were at this building first. That corner one. >> We was there. Okay. All right. >> We were there since 2017. So when you guys moved over here, you guys you guys communicated with Mr. Lungs? >> Yes. >> Everything was through him and you German wasn't around. >> Everything was through. Would >> you be able Do you have any documentation like leases? >> Absolutely. He's not a packet. Let me let me ask you this. How did you How did you end up just dealing with just Tom alone? >> He's Tom was at that church for 15 years. Correct. >> He hired Jam. >> No, no. I I know that. My question is when you came, how did you end up coming here to this property? >> Cuz me and my wife, we noticed it was vacant. I'm like, "Dave, I think it's vacant. We're trying to expand." So, I just knocked on the door one day on a whim. And at the time, before he fired it, before he got Amy kicked off the property, um Amy said, "Hey, look, let's set up a meeting on so and so day. We set up a meeting. They loved us. We loved them. They signed the lease and we were there." And >> and that was you and Tom. >> Me, Tom, and Amy. >> That's it. Jeremy was not involved at all. >> Jeremy didn't come until a year and a half of us being there. And even when he came, he was there maybe for like 4 months. They hired him. >> Yeah, we know all we got. We got all that. We got all that. >> I'm trying to I'm trying to build a background. You here for the first court case that M had >> you were there and they still didn't take the testimony as far as did they do you speak at all or >> they No, they didn't take they didn't they didn't do any testimony actually. Well, they're saying her position and it was it was a tough position for her and I think she just didn't want to make the decision. It's not like we were asking you to interpret a bylaw. We're asking you to interpret an employment agreement. And I think that's where it kind of like but um later >> he's going to be working on this. Any any questions for us? >> Yeah. Again, listen. We're just perspective. >> No, no, I respect you guys. >> Listen to your train. Listen to your only because I just I know what this can look like later. >> Like I have seen >> I look like an aggressive guy. >> Oh, listen. I've seen professional victims. >> Yes, >> I've seen it. >> And and that's how they start, right? They start throwing in the paint because, you know, they want to defend >> what's right, what's right. >> And they end up becoming those individuals. Just don't just get perspective. >> I always ask what is the urgency? There's no urgency. Listen, communicate to them. Hey, I'm not able to run it for whatever reason. Just completely alarm. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> That's why I asked what is the proper procedure? >> And I even on the injection, I had called that this is he locked us out the gym. the gym. We have specific rooms we need to be in. Of course, we called him. His favorite line is, "Call the attorney." At that point, I was like, "So, I called officers." Officer said, "Hey, we're not giving you legal advice to break in, but if you break in, you're not going to get in trouble." Of course, he had a camera pointing down. I break in now. I'm on a YouTube video, you know, like you locked us out of our lease space. Like, he not only does that, but he harasses our contractors. He harasses other people that comes just, hey, no, I'm the guy. I'm the big shot on campus type of deal. >> And it's just been that continually continually continually. >> Listen, I'm I we hope that everything works out for you. >> Let us know. Like I said, we're here. I just I want to give your perspective. >> Sorry I took so long. >> No, no, no. We're fine. Like I said, we just This is not this not one of those easy things that we can just, you know, >> I got to make sure every Yeah, >> if you could if you could type out the thing with the dog saying what's going on with this fire alarm issue. Yes. See if I can report it up to the fire car fire department and so on. They have a little bit more leeway as far as things go with testing inspections cuz every commercial building everything has to be done certain. So I'll see what they're just center. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. >> No problem. All right. >> That was my lieutenant actually. >> Yeah. Does he know what's going on or >> Yeah. Yeah. It's a >> It's a huge It's a huge civil issue. It's a civil issue and we have attorneys involved. And so at this point, >> I mean, a little background, the school owes the church over $400,000. >> The uh >> Well, I know I was here >> a couple weeks ago dealing with the whole pressure washing down, if you remember. >> Oh, that was >> Yeah. So, I'm like I didn't want to come here to come. Like, I don't even want to I don't want to Yeah, we have the um you know, we filed a restraining order against >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I know that got served cuz I know it was back and forth. He >> So, anyway, we're um we still have that that's coming forward. That's kind of a side issue because that's a personal thing. >> Yeah. Yeah. But then what's >> Yeah. So, um, >> did they move their school out or do they still have the school or >> they still have the school? >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And then I know I guess he I guess apparently he said that locks were changed on here. And then I heard Captain Lieutenant Silva had >> on the sanctuary. >> Yeah. On the sanctuary. >> Okay. So, he doesn't he doesn't they don't police the sanctuary. >> This is This is Emerson. He's a church member. >> He's doing nice. >> Yeah. They don't. Is he saying he needs to get in there? >> Yeah. >> No. >> I guess there's a fire panel or something in there. >> No, there's not. >> Okay. >> There's a fire panel in the office. Again, our position, honestly. >> What does he have access to? Is it this this building? >> This the school. >> This this long building or just the school that's over there? >> And he's supposed to only be in the gym using the restrooms and some classrooms, but they've kind of come in and taken over the gym. >> Yeah. >> And now he's trying to say he needs to break in and stuff. So, um, Hine, to my understanding, >> I know Silva had talked to you, talked to you guys's attorney, >> right? So, I'll probably check with Captain H. >> Yeah. No, that they're going to they're going to reach out to him. >> Our understanding from our attorney is that Hawking has not um given him any given anyone permission to sir. Morning. >> So, yeah. So, apparently Pearl is telling the deputy that he has to get to a fire panel in the >> fire panel. I don't know. I mean, like I said, when I was like starting to like what the issue was. Um, >> the attorneys are handling it this other way. >> No, there's no way we keep telling them talking about, you know, throwing a break in. I'm like, what property is in there? That's that's yours. And I keep saying this whole fire panel is in there. >> No. And see, here's the thing. And just to understand the fire panel thing, the church belongs to the church. Even if Okay. And it's in the office. I know we can we can >> he's telling you it's in this other building. >> Yeah. >> So So if um I mean even if he broke in, he goes to the fire panel, he has to call our monitoring system >> to to put it on test and they won't do it. And if you don't know the code and they know the situation, they're not going to give them they're not going to do what he wants. >> So it's it's feudal and he needs to just let the attorneys handle it. And that's what at the end of the day, like for both parties, at the end of the day, it's it's up to the attorneys to do what they got to do. You guys paid it for >> um >> I mean, we're just want to be left alone and this is the kind of stuff we deal with right and it's like >> we just got to wait for the coordinate. >> No, of course. Um >> so he absolutely does not have a right to go, >> you know. >> So the sanctuary is that big that big he doesn't have access to that. Okay. Yeah, he doesn't have access to that or our offices. >> Okay. Um, this whole fire panel thing though, what have you guys dealt with that before? >> Well, we've been we've been very uh gracious with them in the past. Um, but now it's to a point where they charge over $400,000. But they've made it very very clear that they don't have any intentions of pay. Yeah. And so and they need they need a fire drill done for them to stay in compliance with the um uh >> with the Gotcha. And the attorney told you guys tonight he claims that that I'm that that the church uh that you know and and I'm I'm the president and a director on the corporation. is a director on the corporation and he claims that we're not the landlord but yet but yet it's odd because he has to come to us because he need to get to get anything done >> and so it just doesn't make any sense of course I mean we're just really tired of the I trust harassment I'll tell you and I think that I think that we're coming to a point now that tomorrow is the last day that they have to comply with the request West from the department with the fire with the fire. >> Not well. I know. Maybe his last name. >> Yeah. Well, I hope the attorneys will figure everything out. I appreciate you guys coming out. Thank you. I think you guys Thank you. Let make sure I'm understanding this correct. >> Fire the fire panel that you need to get to is in here. >> Where? But >> the issue today is that you need to get to the fire panel. Correct. Correct. The issue the fire to do the fire drill. Correct. To stay in compliance. >> Correct. Okay. And it's Can you not have access to the building that you need to get into? >> I have access to it on my lease. I have access to it, but the physical key >> Oh, physical key to get in there. >> Physical key I don't have. >> Okay. >> I We need access to it. They've locked the doors. >> I'm trying to I got you. So, let me see if they're willing to let you in. If If not, Lieutenant Lieutenant and Captain H are already aware of all going on. >> At this point, we can only ask and then leave it up to y'all. Let the attorneys figure it out. Okay. But let me at least try. If not, then I'm tell they're not going. They're going to sound so convincing to you right now. There's a lineup right here. Okay. Right in the middle. We don't have this. >> I just want to confirm you guys are not going to give him access to do the fire panel thing. Okay. >> And again. >> No worries. >> He can't disable it. >> Okay. No worries. >> No worries. All right. Nope. It's a nogo. We're going to give you a case card. We're going to document everything. Whatever happens after today, okay? All right. It's up to you. Hopefully the Chinese figure. >> I'm just letting y'all know. >> I'm going to get you a case card. We're going to document everything and then go from there. Okay. That's all we can do. Paul, I'm sorry. You know, >> I've done my due diligence. >> Cool on me. I don't want >> Well, if it gets to that point, >> hopefully he doesn't. But what I'm saying is >> we're trying to mitigate that. You know what I'm saying? So let me here we'll get your case card real quick. for the door. It's open. [Music] >> I told y I told you that Jerry stood right here when I was right there. He left the office to follow me. That's a criminal act. Last time I arrested you battle the the the the thing said refrain. He left from the office. They was bullying the office. I said, "All right, cool. I'm going by the office. I'm going to go places." >> You went to the office where Journey was >> No, I didn't go to the office. I came here first. >> Okay. Then you went around the door over there. >> No, I didn't. You beside you. So you went around over there on this side. >> Okay. He was right here. I was right here. He was shot in the court. I was right here. He was right here. That's a criminal act. It's a criminal act. I got to arrest him. You're not doing all that. >> Just chill over here, bro. >> What happened over there? >> Nothing. Just enough. >> Did you leave his office and over there where he was? >> He said that he would said he was going to throw a brick through the window. And so we And so we were going to go over there into that building. Why would Why would Why would you go over there knowing that he has a brick? Knowing that there's a train where you >> Well, because you know, he doesn't he's not supposed to be in that building at all. And so it's like, well, if he's going to to break through, we want, you know, we want to have it on on camera. He's coming into a building where I'm at. And um so when I walked over there, he was already >> So let me get this straight. You walked from here to over there where he was where was where was he at? I don't know. I didn't know where he was at. I didn't know where he was at. We went through here. We went and this will all be on you on camera. You can see us. We came in through here. >> Which way are we going? Um, this is after your basketball go. >> Okay. >> Uh, we we we're we're putting our basketball go somewhere else. It belongs to our school to us to test my stuff >> here. >> Okay. So, you want to show us where it's at? >> Yeah. The uh right here. It's not anything big, but for him, I have to do my >> What What property is this? So this little be or is this >> this is my personal property? >> No, I'm saying the gymnasium, >> correct? Yes, >> we have at least from one end. >> Maybe you call me off with petty stuff. >> No, it's all good. >> So what what does he have to do with the gymnasium? >> They congregate in that room right there, but he doesn't want to distract his family. Okay. But the gymnasium is that does he have anything to do with my basketball? It's over there in that corner. Ever seen the man in the black in the black jacket and the guy in a white shirt? I hate the car. He just moved from that side. Is there a reason why he had like Okay. What is your complaint? Michael from over here and over here tells us for both of us for both of us to uh to refrain from each other. They're constantly begging me up to do stuff and I'm not trying to do it. Every time I call, I try to show tonight. Is that not Is that not antagonizing? No, that's not Brad. It's not you're supposed to each other stuff. This is trying to wrap it around. >> Listen, this is what this is. and they'll tell they're thinking right there. >> Yeah. He comes over here, he'll tell you, oh, and he'll come here. That's not over here. So, he'll tell him to come, they do XYZ, talks about property, they're talking about, and you guys share this information. He talks about persons like, harassing, all that kind of stuff. There's nothing I hear about property. Here's what we're going to do tonight. We're not going to solve this problem. We're going to write a report. If you move basketball and then third quarter is a civil matter actually basketball I'm not ask I'm not actually I'm not but this is this is I'm trying I'm trying to have this cuz this is frustrating 3 hours mechanical always. I can see your frustration. I know you got your kids here. You're trying to do the right thing. All right. However, we're dealing with people that are shooting. So, what we're going to do is report the basketball court saying he's not That's the best we can do tonight. >> We'll ask him. I think that's what we're doing right now. That's what we're doing right now. >> Touch my stuff. I'm going to start touching this. Are you mad at God? Are you mad at God? Right now, God, okay? All you're doing is right there. We're going to take your complaint and then it's up to you to go to the court and say okay the same same thing as last time I got the case. If you want to keep all your files here, be smart with it. I I understand that and I went to the court they like his attorney just lying or oh I'm busting doors in this that he writing the department of education it's like it's like he's stoing he's stoing everything that he can you know what I'm saying and it's like okay what what's the what's the end goal like what what profit They were we were here before. They know that he was fired and and and unfortunately our leaders >> unfortunately our legal system do y'all figure it out and you know don't want to make a decision stuff like this. uh I mean we just keep documenting this too. I'm writing a report on it. I wrote a report on the last last time. >> They see him cuz he doesn't have no restraining order against him. >> So they see him as the as the dumb, you know. >> I got you.