I got you. No hotel. Can you send me 20 alpha 27 alpha? There's a uh silver jeep. I wish that I can put as many when I want his in the machine. No, I think that problem with the female something right out for you. Okay. [Music] All right. Thank you. Come on over. That silver jeep took a 108 or was taking a 108, but I don't think it's going to be it. You got ID on you? No, he has my ID. Okay. What's going on? Oh, he's right there. I don't know. Yeah, we'll be right with you in a minute. We'll be with you in a minute. N's not going to be involved. What car you driving? Um, I came in an Uber. You came in an Uber? Okay. Yeah. I'm on a work trip. You on a work trip? Yeah. Cuz I'm thankful with the uh trip. Is everything okay? Yeah. Hang on. We'll talk to you in a minute. Okay. [Music] Hang on with your phone. Put your phone down. Okay. No, no. You live Do you live out here? No, I don't. I'm sorry. Okay. Where do you live? I live on that address. That's on my ID. Okay. What are you doing out here? I'm on a work trip. Okay. Okay. Just give us a minute to Can I have my phone? No. Okay. You got it. Sit tight. The address of the current 3410. Haven't got with them yet to see what's going on. Haven't spoke to them yet. I haven't spoken to anybody yet. I just stayed 10. That's her phone there. She was texting on it. Appreciate it. I had to put it down. Yeah, that's what I was saying. [Music] Okay. I do work. Okay. From Mexico. Yeah. Oh, yeah. [Music] [Music] Hey, I don't want to put her information all out. Who was the teller that was speaking with her? Me. Okay. Yeah, I walked in. Okay. So, what happened when she walked in? Well, first of all, she walked in by herself. Yeah, she walked in by herself. Um, basically, she came to the line and she goes, "Hey, I want to do a cash advance." She had to fill out a slip of sign. She's not a member with us. New Mexico ID. Um, hold on one second. Josh, so yeah. Um, sorry. You know my number. Yeah, you're good. You're good. So, basically, um, she just walked up. Um, she was a little bit nervous. I could kind of tell. So, then she comes up. She goes, "Hey, I want to do a passion dance." I said, I looked at the idea like, "Okay, so for how much?" She says, "Five if I can, three if you can do it." And I was like, "Okay, well, give me just a few moments while I look at that for you." So, I just messaged our manager group chat. Um, we've had her trying to do this multiple times like at other branches. So, it was like a lookout. So, then um my ABM, Michael, came over. I gave him the license and the car so then he could go back there and look at it. And then I just make small talk pretty much the whole time. What is it that you guys are looking to do? Like what has she done? I know you said that it's like being on what what has she done the advances. What was that? I'm a floater. I'm not always here. Yeah. So, um 2 days ago or a day ago, she came in doing a cashier for 30,000. Mhm. With a newer teller that was here. So, she processed it for her, but this time she was trying to do one for three or five, like whatever she could get off the captured yesterday. So, I think she's using multiple IDs. Fake IDs. Fake IDs. Yeah. The other one I think was like forget what state it was, but it like looks really fake. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Tell them something. So, we have all the comments in there. Is that our only ID? That's only what you provided. We have other emails in regards to the ID number by that name as well. She was trying to do cash advances off the business. But that's the only thing we got. Gotcha. Yeah. What do you got? So basically she's been going around to different fair winds banks showing different types of IDs trying to get cash advances. Um I'm going to they sort of service and see if they can there was about like five or six emails of like different branches that she's been going to and that she was declined. Um the ones that I read were all declined. However, I think it was a day or two ago. I'm a floater. I'm not always here. Um so when she came here there was a newer MSR. um that she did the cash advance for with that New Mexico ID thinking it's the same card. We have to look in the record. I believe she did it for three because she kept saying, "Oh, like I did it the other day." No, I think in one go. I wasn't here, but that's what I for just her ID and then the business. So, I just kind of like stalled until they can get you guys over here. Is she a member here? No. No. No. She said she's lived in Albuquerque in Mexico for like 3 years and then the business debit card is from California. California to get a cash advantage. Do you have to be a member here? No, you don't have to be a member, but we run it through which is like I know your date of birth 81. Say it again, sir. It's 42081. Okay. So, police officers, right? We try to um identify everybody. I want to put this out here. You want to turn on post? Um, yeah, sure. Let me see what you got. All right. So, picture that I gave you. Um, these are the emails kind of correspond to the branch alert that was going out yesterday. Um, Georgia driver's license, Karina Kerry tried to come to another branch, do 9,000, but they didn't get an ID. And how do we know this is the same lady? Um, same memo has a business debit card with her name on it and then a business name on it. Had a state ID asking for 6 five 9,000. Okay, that's the name of one. I don't know. That's the name of the other one, but this was from Georgia. This one was from George. Georgia as well. Similar names. and she said she was here yesterday and she there was somebody that didn't cash events yesterday for a large amount which I kind of caught my eye but it didn't match any of the names that I had on file here. Can you check into that from yesterday and see if there's any footage where you can I pull the cameras for the cash events yesterday? I just admitted that it's not her. She just told them that the ID is not her. Yeah. No, we can you pull up the transaction. I guess she got a cash either yesterday or the day before. Do you know what time it was? I don't know. Apparently, it was a newer employee. Okay. Yeah. I think it was a $3,000 amount is what the young lady was saying up there. Yeah. I looked at yesterday. I'm like, is this one of those? And I'm like, so suspicious. All right, man. How you doing? Officer Reigns. Doing well, thank you. So, I'm just going to check in here. Make sure you give us the right identity this time. It's me. I have my ID on me. Okay. Where's that ID? My purse, but they took my purse. Okay. Are you cool if I go ahead and grab it? Can I go in my purse? Well, I just don't We haven't seen what's inside of it. You know, makes a threat. Why would we You understand? Why would we let you hand it? Okay. There's nothing crazy in there. No. If I You understand? That's fine. Is it fentanyl? Am I going to inhale it and pass out? It's a little bit of weed. All right. We can work with that. Okay. You understand? Where would that be at? Don't right here in this. Okay. Detective crime. No middle name. Oh, perfect. Thank you. All right. So, we're going to go ahead and do your right index finger. All right. [Music] Have you ever been arrested before? No. Okay. I've never been in trouble. All right. Now, we're going to do your left one. That's what I was telling him. I'm like, this is my first time. And I only like did it cuz I was desperate right now. We're closed. [Music] Her [Music] car must be in the shop. I don't know whose car is that. Yeah, heard the same down the same as my It's still It still got it. Yeah, obviously they must have a victim. [Music] Yeah, I'll get some more. All right. Hey guys, how are you? We meet again, huh? You got your signal for all completed. Yeah. Kachchow. Well, there was a little bit of road rage, so I guess she might have cut in front of him. He got this around her. Probably break checked her, but there's no video of that. So, conflicting statements and they were determined fault. Insurance companies. There you go. insurance adjuster brave rates. Just as soon as I said I was like, "Yeah, there's video like you said you were here." I was like, "Well, shows you in this." He backed into me or hit me. I was like, "Oh, that that were you guys upset." He was like, "Oh, I was like, so he probably could be the financial establishment or the people who identification because it's it's economic crime." He says, "Oh my neighbor, we just send you this on a daily basis. Can detectives investigate that determinance? No video. Okay. Video normal stuff, huh? Just hang out right now. Yeah. Yeah. Just you're fine. No. [Music] not [Music] you remember I've never been a member here. Uh my mom has the past. My best friend is 10 years strong. Oh gosh. I'm a elite member. Where's my coffee? You get a special special card. You want to overdraft it, you put the money back in. Credit unions traditionally give better rates. Correct. [Applause] All right. [Music] That magnet that works for you, the handcuffs. Yeah. Yeah. They have a new strong one that has a little bit more uh [Music] That one has a little more storm. Is it hard for you to get it off? No, but if you pull it the wrong way, it's not going to come off. I usually wear my darker ones. They have more grip to them. So, watch your feet get pinched, but they have one a little bit stronger of the magnet, too. So, I'll get another one. So, after a while moving, it kind of loosens up a little bit. It loosens a little bit. And also, your cuffs get sweat on them. So, there's that. Yeah. Now, what if they're like his? Would that work? That's probably not enough metal on it. Yeah, that's probably not enough. I like having the freedom of it and just if your body your body can work this here. Okay. The actual like chain. Yeah, it looks better. More professional with it. Yeah, it does. And it stays put. I think it's fall off. Well, they have one up here, too. So, you can put keys, whatever. You can put your gun up there. You could. I wouldn't. Okay. [Music] Let me get a start on Yeah. You might help with that. I don't want to be here. That way. Just trying to give you guys easy so you guys can just dive out. Yep. All right, Miss So obviously police officers are here. So obviously we are investigating, correct? Not even my teeth. As of right now, I'm just trying to figure out what's happening, right? So I'm going to ask you some questions just to clarify just like how I got their story. I want your story as well. Right. Okay. I haven't made a decision yet on what's going on. I just wanted to understand fully what's going on before I make it. Correct. Okay. But before I ask you questions, I do have to read your rights. Okay. Doesn't mean that any decision is made. It's just something I have to do just to understand what's going on. Okay. So, when I read you these questions, I you answer yes or no. Okay. So, you have the right to remain silent. Do you understand? Yes. Okay. Anything you say maybe use against you in court. Do you understand? Yeah. You have the right to talk to a lawyer before and during questioning. Do you understand? Yes. Anyone threat you or promise you anything's getting to me? Yeah. Okay. So, what's going on? I was just doing this because I'm in like financial states and messing the way I did it. It wasn't like something that I wanted to do. And here I am financial when I made it sound so sweet. I just hearing it from other pastors and I think I'll just take a risk because it's something that I've never done. I mean, I don't do anything ever get it through. I've never been in trouble. So, it's like, you know, you follow the wrong footsteps and here I am. Who who told you to do that? Just people like I've heard people like doing that like wait like how how do you how do you see people cuz I'm trying to understand I've never seen anyone do this. So, that's why I'm trying to figure out where you where are you seeing people do this. Like what I'm seeing like I've seen the like movies, you know, like those are the type of things. Like how many times have you done? This is my first time. This time with me and this is like my first time. This is my first time and here I am. Like the same thing. So hold on. Where are you? Are you going to get in a state or something like that? It was given to me from a person I didn't even know. I didn't find him. It was just like from a person like and then they went to that person and then it was just like they gave it to me. I understand and maybe that you're not trying to like girlfriend but like at the end of the day we're talking to you. We're not talking to these other people. We're talking to you. This story does not make that any sense. This person this ID, this credit card and said, "Hey, that makes no sense. Where where's your car? Where's your Honda? My car? Yeah. Where's your Honda? And it's not here. Are you sure? I'm positive my car is not here. You don't see it. I I understand that. Okay. Somebody was in it. No. No. Nobody's in it. Where do you stay at? I stay in in Vico. Where? Val Rico. Where's that? Val Rico. Val Rico. And you're coming all the way to Orlando. Yeah. This is the closest Fairways to you. Listen, do you understand? Like we we've been doing this for a very long time, right? All of us combined. You didn't take an Uber from Val Rico to here. I'll tell you that right now. Here's what's going to happen. I already told you. You [ __ ] me once. No. Stop talking. Let me finish. So, you took an Uber from You took an Uber from Val Rico to Orlando. Yeah. Can you if we That's your phone, right? Uber through an app. You can show us the Uber. I didn't order the Uber. They ordered me the Uber. I'm promising you. You understand how that seems? You're saying a random person came to your house, gave you this ID, gave you this credit card, and now they're booking you a random Uber. He's not a random person. Who is he? That's what I'm saying. It's a person that I met one time. You're about to take a rap for a whole I know. I know. Okay. It's a person. Okay. Well, get I'll tell you what. Here's what's going to happen. So, you drove an hour and 20 minutes to come to Orlando for this. So, here's what's going to happen. And I'm going to I'm not playing games with you right now. You're going to jail. I'm sorry. You're going to jail. Please. No. No. I'm telling you now you're going to jail. Okay. So that's going to happen. So here's what's here. And you good? You're good with me? All right. So here's what's going to happen. You're going to jail. He's taking you to jail. Yeah. So defaulting the inkeeper. I'll get you. So listen, you go stop talking for a minute. You're going to jail. The way the way this works is I'm deal. That's right. Crimes have been committed. Listen. Listen. Stop the I don't know who gave me this information. Okay. Get on your phone and give us this number. This person has done this. Number one. Okay. Cuz I'll tell you right now, you will go to jail for solely for everything you have committed. Okay. Okay. I don't want to hear I don't know who he is. I don't want to hear he's a I just met him yesterday. I don't want to hear he's a friend from overseas. I don't want to hear it. I've been doing this 21 years and I've been doing this actual crime stuff in Stop. Sit down for a minute now. Olive, let me let me finish and then we could go. I've been doing this for a long time and I've also been a detective doing this. So, you can stop the whole [ __ ] Stop and when I'm done talking, then I'll let you speak. If you continue to play the I don't know game. I'm telling you right now, we're done talking. Let me finish talking so you understand very clearly what I'm saying to you. Let me You're not listening to me. Listen to me. If the I don't know thing continues and I don't have numbers to people and I don't know if that continues we're g when we're done talking you're gonna go to jail for what we have. Okay because you're going that's it and then we're not even going to start we're not even going to look at this anymore. Okay. I don't want to go to jail because I promise you I'll give you what I'm telling you is I don't want to hear that I don't know [ __ ] I've been doing this too long to hear I don't know. Are we very clear on this? You're not going to go through your phone. If you would allow us to go through your phone and you want to get some numbers for him to take, then we will investigate this further. Okay. But other than that, you'll take the whole damn wrap and we're done. No, I don't want to. No, Val Rico. But you're not you're not giving us any information. Okay. But can I get my phone to give you what do you what do you want to show? So, I'm looking for five or more IDs with different names. I'm looking for different stuff. I don't think we have five or I know she's returning location. She's working stuff. These are flights from somewhere. So, but I don't off the street. off the street. I met him off the street. Why did he approach you? Because like I told you, I was desperate to to make money because I was in a financial state and that was it. And this is like my first time that I'm actually making a move like this. Okay, Miss Pagan, again, the truth, right? So, Fairwinds has a flag, obviously, cameras and stuff like that, facial recognition, all that stuff like that. This is not your first time, and I don't like being lied to, just like Corporal Fab is not being lied to. He's been doing this a lot longer than I have as well. He's done deeper investigation than this. This is pretty cut and dry. So for you to lie to us like that doesn't make any sense. I'm lying to you. I promise you I All you've done since we've stepped out with you was lie to us. You gave me this ID in the beginning. I did because I was scared obviously and I'm sorry. This isn't the first time you've given someone else ID. You've given other people's ID like an ID out of New Jersey and stuff like that. We have all of that allocated echo 20 for [Music] 104 to 1046. Thank you. No, I swear to God. How are we doing on the calls holding other than those that 56? Yeah. Once we uh try to wrap it up here, I'll have some units released. Doesn't matter what kind of financial crisis she did to mistake. Listen, right? You weren't thinking about Emily Hancock when you were taking her home. Oh, and I'm sorry. I was me, but not anybody else. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And you have no idea who this person is or anything like that, right? Okay. What are you trying to give us from your phone? He wanted that person's number. And you have no idea. No face, anything like that. No name. You don't even say his name under his name. Phoenix San Francisco. So, how do you like none of that makes sense? I contact somebody else. Somebody else contacts them with me. Was there somebody else? That's where you at right now with that. They sure did. Did they talk to you? Yeah. Okay. Is he Are you taking the phone for a search warrant? Did he say that? Huh? He didn't say it, but uh probably should. You can put it in put just put in evidence for airplane mode. All that cuz if she's No, it's mine. It's mine. Okay. I don't know if you got the money from something else though. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's my money order. That's the only one. I promise you that's the only one. So, it's an airplane mode right now. Just Just um We just came back from a vacation. We just came back from Who is Joe Sean Cruz? That is my boyfriend. Where is he? He's not here. run over now. San Francisco Phoenix to from Phoenix to SFO. Yeah, we'll take all that. We'll take her phone. She's cuz she's got a bunch of messages coming in right now and I put this on airplane mode right now. We'll just put in evidence like eco crimes figure it out. If you're good with what you have Yeah. I think let let them work everything else out to go with her. And what part do you want us? Uh let's uh any paperwork we should take. This is all different paperwork from different Yeah, just I would take it all. Most likely let them kind of let somebody know to you at all, man. It's a lot of different IDs. You have anything on either Can I let somebody know that I'm Well, when you go to the jail, they'll they'll they'll you'll be able to get I don't know their numbers. Don't the way that would concern us if you had minor children that needed attendance cuz that's it. Other than that, if you're a grown, you trying to let a grown person know about what you're wear. We're not concerned. We're only concern we're concerned about children. Do you have any kids? I have a iPhone SE. Is that her? Second phone. That was the second phone. No, please. So, she has two phones. She got two phones. No, that one doesn't work. Well, you got a message on it. Something coming in. You got a message right now? Because it's probably connected to Wi-Fi. So, it does work. No, no, no, no. It's probably connected to Wi-Fi. All right, listen. So, we're taking this stuff. It'll be an evidence and it's going to be as simple as that. Unfortunately, when you come to Orlando and you commit this t this stuff, you're going to go to jail. Okay. Can I please let someone know? When you go to jail, when you go to jail, Bill, can I write number down? We at this point, we cannot get into your phone because it is evidence. A lot of different My goodness. Your your phone is is our evidence at this point. We're not unlocking the airplane mode. All right. We are now going to it's it's in secure mode where we have to keep it. You can contact that phone. Okay. I don't know. I'll get you. Uh, no, I'll get you both names. Thank you. They can help you with the phone and stuff. Thank you. I'm Yeah. Yeah. Watch out. So, you get what we doing for your recruit, man. What happened? He wants to ride. He doesn't want to get sick. He's He's like, "Yo, this dude's throwing up." I think he's the one that got me sick. Can I call somebody, please? At the jail, they'll give you that opportunity. Okay. I don't I don't know. Nobody's assist you in looking that up. Okay. Who are you trying to call? My mom or my sister or somebody. Boogies. What's their name? It's my sister's sister. My mom's under mama beard. We'll work on getting you in your phone. What do you want to give? We'll sit you down. Let us listen. Hey, can you are you giving us permission to go into your phone and your contacts to do that? All right. We'll come we'll bring it out here and we'll do it once we sit you down. Okay. Once we once we get a female officer to search you, we'll Okay. We got cell phones and everything else. Just most basic stuff. So, I'll search her. She's got cash for money orders. This computer killer. Um, she may not be able she able to take that, you know. No, I'm saying the purse itself. I would just give it all the give it all the range with the with the uh I don't think they can take No, we haven't turned on yet. Mr. Gone, I have to unfortunat I have to search you. Okay, I'm officer Williams. Okay, you guys bring your feet for me. Is there anything else on you? No. Okay. No more IDs on you anywhere on your So, what did he said? So, we didn't we only have one ID. So, I'm going to do the uttering today. Um he said so he said defraud a financial institution. Yeah. So theft the theft will be defrauding the financial institution for the one yesterday. That was just yesterday. As far as like the $3,000 he was saying for like grand theft we would have to like contact the person. That's why he said to do that. Yeah. Instead of the grand theft do that. He said see if the bank can like contact them to see if Yeah. But at the end of the day I would just do your whatever charge you have that you could touch. and just let everything else when it comes to this stuff as long as you have your evidence they'll let them do everything else. I'm going to look get your phone just now. Okay, let me just pull it up on later see if I can actually find it. Oh, and here send an email to um Eco Crimes or D Scott with the case number. Okay. Uh this way they they can look it up when they come in Monday. She's scared she's in the car. Yep. Well, we got in just a second. Okay. Um, no, it looks like it's a debit card. Okay. And the officer has it, but this is the card she presented with this ID. That was yesterday. Well, this is today. I can't You can't get a cash advance off of a debit card. That doesn't make sense. You can. Sure you can. Okay. With it less with less of a um because it should be monies that the person actually has. This is a business account. So, it could have Oh, man. It could have it. You're right. Right. But for a traditional debit account with a dollar in it, you can get advance off of that. On a debit account, you can get whatever typically it's whatever is available in the account. On a credit card, most institutions, it's onethird of the limit is the max you need in cash. But on a debit card, you usually get whatever is available in the account. Just depends on the institution and what they have on their in the area. Hey, want me to grab anything before I go? Um, additional stuff for phone just in case or No, it's cut and dry. Two statements having filled out. Can I get the ID showing ASAP? Hey, I was looking at it too just too many with technology. I'm like, "Why would you even It's kind of like with the people that still in the car with the license plate readers trying to drive around the city in the same." Yeah, exactly. Eventually. And then with this God, man, the facial neck recognition software that they have going from branch to branch to branch. Oh, man. She actually got money yesterday, but I had no idea getting like she had a she had a for an ID that wasn't hers that matched the car. And I'm like, I get a cash event. If you get a cash advance from like your place of employment, that understand, but off of debit card, now I know you can overdraft and you can get like sometime you go $500 negative, but I'm like that's news to me. Yeah. And you just have to be from this institution. Wow. [Music] count a lot of money. Mhm. Another thing she said she was desperate. Like I don't necessarily mean that they solicited her. She could have went to them and said, "Hey," you know what I mean? Or both to both. You know what I mean? If she she could have went to them and they could have provided her all that, whatever. But that's crazy. Seems like she's been doing this for a while. Not like someone just picked me up and they just told me to come here. Like it was none of that. Here's the other thing. you hate traveling. Who knows about the interstates? Do you have your ID handy? I'll throw it back. And then Michael as well when he gets back after having statement interstate. No problem. Thank you. Cross state lines. She probably done this. Who knows other states and whatever. That's why Eco is getting involved. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. And I bet you she said she took a Uber here. I bet you she had a car drop off somewhere over there, not in the parking lot and she just walked over. Yeah. But again, they put the plane in airplane mode so when they go into the phone Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, brother. I'm out of here, sir. Oh, that's right.