when was the last time you were arrested uh last Friday for what huh what for the same thing the same thing now him I I'm fighting that charge because they were mine they were mine I had them in my Pur before I got to Walmart I just left the store and I had there's a couple other packs in it all right right we're about to go through your backpack so what all is in it there's poke mon in there okay anything else or is it just see hand right here turn around yes sir turn around I dropped my face turn around all the way put your hands behind your back do it now I don't don't move you're the don't move yes sir I'm complying I'm trying to comply [Music] do you have any weapons on your bud you got a pocket knife around I can get my thing in there can you yeah I got my fingered out it's very very very very very tight that's right no weapon here no you got my parking R that's all I got no weapon my b let's walk down to the where to what what did I do right now you've been detained for suspicion of shop what did I sh I don't know you beain right now I don't have all that information they just called me to help out oh being I me this pretty I thought he was going come on where the heck am i r is there any I might be a to hit my I don't know what's in it buddy oh it's it's uh I would love to take your word for it but I don't know you so you know what I'm saying there could be anything in there really one chance you're getting sick THC or something like that uh I know what you're talking about yeah [Music] suspicion of chocolate all right now that we gave you a little bit of Grace do you want to talk to us about the stolen merchandise in your pocket god damn man Brea I'm trying stressing out a little bit bre it's my shoulder okay breathe a little bit hey Max you more comfortable to stay it's a serious question um no actually it's uh that taking the pressure off pulling Shore better than staying in I'm going take your glasses off for do thank you so much you're all right all right not I know you mentioned um your statement while ago that um you understood your rights as we gra them to um hold on all right started with back you understood your rights when Deputy sheiman read them to you do I understand my Miranda rights yes I understand my Miranda okay all right man look it at this point in time it is no longer a question of if you stole them right um it's more or less why you did it is it is Christmas time tough or are you doing it to make a quick Buck I mean I get it man Christmas is rough I a't got a ton of money either you got kids you got kids biolog but you what she got step kids mhm yeah okay they enjoy this stuff [Music] [Music] oh i s um God damn that hurt so [Music] bad it's kind of dizzy okay so anyway um the officer I think he's officer Sergeant something earlier tried to tell me this is still a detained not an arrested correct that's incorrect this is got of being arrested no sir it's absolutely you're detained pending the outcome of our investigation pending the outcome of our investigation but you're sitting here trying to tell me oh no I'm sorry I apologize you are telling me okay do you think I arrest everyone that I come in contact with that commits a crime oh well probably not no exactly so why are we assuming why am I assuming exactly it's a logistical question you know it's legitimate I can tell you I've been in this office and not taking someone to jail probably just as many times as anything else and I come in here a lot like a second home he's my trainee so he don't count he ain't been here that long I've been here much longer so no disrespect so I mean the moral is man is I just want how old are you I don't have your idea right I don't know how old you are it's in if you flip that wallet over right there in front of you no flip it to the front there we go 87 I'm 37 37 all right so you better around the block a couple times right I get couple more times than me how old are you it don't matter you're just a little bit older than I am well no I don't down that part you're not really confused why you're sitting here right I mean I'm no there's no I'm an old guy but you can see that clearly I've been doing this for a really really long time so you're not really confused why you're sitting in that chair please tell me that oh no there's no confusion I'm just what I am I'm not confused now there was no confusion at all actually I just I feel like you kind of giving these guys a little bit of the runaround about whether you're being arrested or detained and no you know what the whole deal is right we were called because you were doing things in this store you weren't supposed to be doing right so they called us we came here we watch video we have you in the store you left the store right you were stopped we found merchandise on you now these guys can make a choice on whether you NTA you or whether they arrest you and you're just basically almost giving them a hard time like saying hey I'd rather go to jail than be NTA right I don't know what that notice to appear you know where to notice to appear is we're going to give you a second to think and we'll come right back inside all right I've never heard of NTA honestly I've never heard that even sh call Sally yes perfect St shima's got a couple questions what what brought you here today huh what brought you guys here today I want I wanted to get because I live I'm having a panic attack sorry I I live in a motel and all I do is drive people back and forth back and forth back back and forth back and forth and I just wanted to get out and do I mean go places do I mean and so that's what I like I went to dayon I drove to dayon and I was on my way home and he's like stop stop so how do you know him huh how do you know him um how do I know him and we've been together off and on for a little while okay okay and you live in in flagin no I live in St Augustine St Augustine okay so what brought yall to what brought you to this specific store you guys yeah what brought what brought me to this store just because it was close okay any St Augustine no CU like I said I they I cuz I drive around at St a all the time so I I know all I've been to all the stores there you know what I mean so I was like okay you know okay so what what brought you here were you looking for anything in particular or no not anything in particular no okay okay so we have surveillance footage of seeing you put stuff in your hoodie or in your bag that you had in the cart is there anything you can say to us about that in my H yes ma'am or in your bag in the car in my bag yes ma'am your backpack um but I I stick my phone in and out of the too okay but did you put any cards any kind of Pokémon cards any other kind of items in your in your bag today without paying for it from here yes ma'am um there may be one a lot so like I was telling him I buy a lot of mine okay and it's a routine i m but we go through I have them in my purse okay I guess it's pretty much if somebody gets caught I take the charge okay but there is there is some there is something in my first I'm not going to lie okay someone else huh someone else for no I said there's some in my purse okay what what is what did you put in the purse huh what did you put in the purse there's like some packs of Pokemon okay but I I was going to pay for them I really was mhm um did you is there any do you like Pokemon like do you have I it yes you do okay okay okay um is that all what else like thought I was on the phone I guess I don't know who who called him I don't know who called him cuz he called me and he told me he was out of the store and okay so and I heard whoever called him and so if I was going to if I was going to run I would have that would I would have taken that chance you know what I mean it said the same in the store okay so let me ask you a more like straight forward question all right so we're not we're not really questioning the fact of of why you two were here today anymore um we're more or less curious of why so did you guys organ did you guys plan to come here to steal things no no no is it like a sarof the- moment idea pretty much pretty much did you guys have like a set itinerary of what you wanted to steal or was it just like items of no he said he knows I woman I okay MH and so yeah I die when was the last time you were arrested uh last Fray for what huh what door the same thing the same thing no I I'm fighting that George because they were mine they were mine I had them in my par before I got to Walmart I just left the store and I had there's a couple other packs in there all right we're about to go through your backpack so what all is in it there's Pokémons in there okay anything else or is it just the Pokémon cards huh any ice cream any hard ice cream heart no no you don't do any narcotics no I think I take I don't all but are you prescribed it yes okay do you have any in the bag uh no oh okay okay so all right we'll just hang tight we'll be back in a minute okay am I am I going to K right now you're yeah right now you're detained but more than likely you are going to um but I didn't walk out of the store it doesn't matter unfortunately the that statute reads a 10 so whenever we're both adults here when you cut packages open in the middle of the I I don't even have a knife okay so I get cut no packages that's fine watch your foot I don't want to hurtt you this all come out of her back yes sir this is just some documentation it looks like looks like both of those were listed to so what um what people sometimes do be call a Legend um they will literally create a list of things they they need to sell because none of these are official so they would literally make a list and cross it off so they can sell it on eBay gotcha so what website do you make the most money off of these on I'm sorry what website do you make the most money off of these cards on um I mean Google says eBay honestly well I was asking from personal experience I could look it up on Google too oh well um I only say that cuz I literally just Googled that very same question all that long ago how long ago I don't know [Music] uh Target so none of these are really was in there this was a front pocket that wasn't like a random thing that was something that you said we we asked questions and we already know the answer we see how truth are you continue Market my recomendation has enough age I got your work phone I did okay take a picture yeah Google say for whatever pocket did you I did I took them all out already I went through all of them should I like click them all did all this come out of here no these were on top uh they were on top of the bag that must have been on person so whenever we have this here what we're going want to do this is to lay it out okay leave this open so you can see in or oh we'll just leave it nearby so that way you can pick out okay um [Music] and this way whenever you go to typ your because each of these are probably going to have some kind of a different variation of their name that way you can actually you also have to figure out how many of those packs belong in each packaging okay because that's going to make a difference gotcha gotcha because we can't charge per pack if three packs are in one mhm it's true okay just don't get it mixed up [Music] make room yeah I'm still [Music] here the color coordination I'm next to the bu ex what's up I'll be Deputy Schmid yeah I'm sorry yes what's upy Schmid yep who's the um boss man who's the boss man technically I I you mean my supervisor I guess right here anyway I don't know what but are you looking for my b boss man or their boss man who mine yes her yours I think mine who's just in here oh um oh guy um sir that's Mr Smith ain't it that's corpal Smith yes sir Corporal take you a picture of all this um including that too nope just this first be that um he's the one that says if I'm going to jail yes no sir who oh Target is no it' be me technically Deputy Schuman but I'm definitely a part of that choice okay oh yeah you're training him I yes sir that's accurate yes sir just I took just one [Music] y uh what's the if I name what's the um verdict verdict not what do you mean verdict would be the wrong word for this time okay um should I try okay am I going home I don't offit um I honestly don't know yet man I'm not lying to you either when you guys cut them out of the box it kind of lengthens the procedure a little bit CU now I got to piece everything back [Music] together oh um okay um I'm the impression or as I understand well listen I'm like every [Music] other criminal in the world don't want to go to jail I you okay so forgive me that uh what I was going to say nothing I do is personal work I hey I appreciate that people kind take personal don't know why but they do um so I'm I guess you say I'm the impression that um saying a hypy situation you as a deputy and a civilian and um you're questioning them after being mirandized they agree to speak with you because you're a fairly respectful individual and so on and um you ask him in one way or another to admit to the admission or commmission whichever word of a crime okay and they do okay in accordance with being mirandized you have now thrown away any possibility of a defense in the of law is that right or wrong I read your rights right did you understand them well yeah in the hypothetical situation the person absolutely understood them but I can't give you legal advice oh no yeah so I I can read you your Miranda Rights that's all because if I give you legal advice i' be violating my policy and I could get a lot of trouble after and that's considered legal advice I get what you're asking and I wish I could help you oh no I'm not okay I'm not more there's there's no right way you can ask it no I'm not asking for legal advice to you no but that's in essence that's what that is okay underst understand anyway it's listen man the is I ask you all these questions is I just want you to tell me the truth okay whenever we use it for example when when you back when we were in school you know which was a while ago right you lied to a teacher you got trouble right you did something wrong but stole the truth outcomes usually a little bit better same thing works for criminal justices whether you want to believe it or not how many times you been arrest I have know that that is not at all did you tell the truth oh I am a firm believer and statued all over my body and I it's your right you have to tell me I don't like lying and I know it sounds crazy cuz I'm a criminal and you're not no listen criminal criminal is a term that I don't even use you're a person that makes that choices cuz that's all the are choices right that's all we areation of all in your life T yes sir y I did should I show you the amount of boxes that you two empty is he is he coopera at this point like is he talking to you guys not okay then don't worry about it he doesn't want to talk to you about the whole situation don't worry about it we'll go based off the conclusion of what we already have for throughout our investigation did you already talk to her yes okay cuz we don't need to sit here I and go back and forth when you know damn well what's going on so if you don't want to talk you have that right I'm not telling you you have to if you don't want to we're not going to sit here please talk to us like I'm done so it's you can need talk to us not and then we you you know conclude our investigation and make a termination at that yeah you were going to what no I was going to say that none of that was happening I wasn't well no You' been G us to run around this entire time like tell me you want to be El tronic repair man and that's why get maggots in your pocket and know what's going on we're not saying that you're being rude by any means but you're definitely beating around the bush and it's okay I'm not holding it against you by any means it's just we're not going to sit here and ask you to keep talking to us if you just keep feing us the line of whatever it is oh what line did I just Fe you okay all right right what's that transport take him over to the vehicle all right sir go yeah I you're going be placed under arrest for as of right now petty theft and until we pull your crial history we'll be able to tell otherwise you've been convicted of theft uh have I been convicted of this do you have anything in your pants um well I sure as heck hope not I mean like in your underwear concealed anywhere cuz you're like dancing around I'm just curious no I mean you know you're loosing the boys I mean people put stuff there too that's why I was asking You' be surprised I mean I might but not just um all right let's go did she already leave let's go did she already leave yeah no she in a cop car too go together oh we're going together Shar oh yep I got it all right all right appreciate the lies guys where we going here it's going to be tight brother I ain't even going to lie to you come on you got to try oh wait uh you said we were riding together oh no you're going to jail together oh not in the same vehic dude I have really you're going to have to try brother it's only about a 10-minute ride there come on give me some effort hold on holding up trap I am over 6 ft tall and 280 lb I get you and believe it or not I'll put someone bigger in here just go ahead and take a seat hey um I'm gonna I guess waste my time and ask you for something serious here Mr Smith what is it I would like to be able to speak to her for a moment at some point so hear me out hear me out so it's not because I don't want to it's because I can't because you guys are codefendants listen all right let let me go to the other side okay give me a second those are in his bag yeah those scarlet and violet and I like organized them by their particular type cuz it's is it like a so that's going to be from these ones which are the same ones on camera that he cut with okay here I'm going to is there anything in those is that even a or you're saying this one that's the one that she was working on when she was I don't know you here or not but she was working on a bigger box the beding area okay I did see that the [ __ ] GS so here it is yeah so that's going to be where these came from all these however many packages that is okay so was this part of that I think it goes in there it's kind to fit in cuz this closes like that your training Bo okay it doesn't specify there's a okay imagine it does something like mhm I'm the female oh I just did a pat so it was in her back sweatpants pocket okay so I didn't do a thorough pad now because she's a she M and she now knows she's going to ja she's like I better give you these I'm like Shez in my truck and you guys need to do a better job I work within my directives all tell you listen yeah great now you got me fired don't you know when I walk in you