EXC EXC hey and what's even better that I own the whale the wh and get your house off the property it doesn't work that way the the property the house off of it nower no I'm not tamario go that way please how you doing officer I'm not going to talk I'm not going to be here like I don't exist so how you doing officer I'm doing good handle please handle your wife no no that's my sister your sister then please okay well I'm talking to you now come if that continues we're going to have a problem how you doing what the hell do you got going on with this place tell me about it brother how you doing okay here's the issue yeah she's I own the will that sits on her property mhm which he will own okay I have a summons for an injunction that is 6 years old mhm your partners at work they think that that is hilarious cuz they've never seen one that old before for protection H I haven't spoke to her in 5 years okay 6 years concurrent I've seen her three times spoke to her twice but yet we are going to court on Tuesday at 9:00 a.m. which is New Year's Eve for impecable timing yeah impeccable timing for protection okay and now she's pulling this done now has he informed you that she has been firing a firearm mhm okay I guess for you know just to intimidate him so that he does not want to walk over and find out why he doesn't have water but but I can walk over there because I own the well and it supplies water to not just her home but his right okay so what we need to do is we need to either drive over there or walk over there and see why there is no water being we can we can walk over there you can deal right there you can deal with the well mhm I'll deal with her I need I need a report on this I can do I can do notes on it I mean I won't I can't do a report but I mean I can do really nothing I can do I can give you I can give you the call I can give you the call number and everything like that and you can print it out I need pretty I'm defin the with the firearm even though I 100% know it was her I didn't see it well I mean and then again that goes into the whole she can shoot on her property if it wasn't targeted to you she didn't visually see you MH that's all open to interpretation but I mean that's awesome that's I'm not even not I I'll deal with her if you want to deal with the well uh yeah I want to walk over there I want to see why there's no water yeah yeah let's let's do that turn on that turn that hose on that way I know that does water Christmas day you know all of us are a little pissed off that's all you got to do okay now I need you to stay here with your phone I'm going walk over with my phone I'm going to call you and you can tell me if the water comes on and that'll be in the store all right okay and then I'll go deal with her I know that there's water being uh transferred uh me essentially I mean if she does it again then we'll come out here and deal with it but we're we're not doing this all night so man yeah yeah this Isis I have to drive all the way from that a nice car though thank not to men I own the damn hello shiff Department we're turning the water back on no why not it's not your property that's why I have the landlord here that has that proper the landlord lives in this residence okay but she doesn't own the will I own the will no you do not seuster I do I bought it here's the here's the problem here's here's the problem here's the problem with that please let me know what the problem is yeah the problem is you're cutting off water to the supply of an entire family okay so you want to deal with your well you get a new well or you take it to court we will but tonight make sure you show up hey and what's even better is that I own the wh get the and get your house off the property work get the well off the property your house off of it now Syer no I'm not tell marel go that way please how you doing officer I'm not going to talk I'm not going to be here like I don't exist so how you doing officer I'm doing good handle please handle your wife no no that's my sister your sister then please okay well I'm talking to you now if that continues we're going to have a problem so sir do you have a bench warrant or something to turn that water back on I don't have to have a bench warrant that's a court ordered warrant I don't have a warrant I'm not I'm not elevating my voice warrant what do you need to turn that water back own that water and she pays the bill for you can take it to court because we have a family that you are taking water away from and that is a problem that family is wrongly on this property it doesn't concern you because he is the landlord of that property so that doesn't concern you at all yeah it does no it doesn't that landlord who pays that bill that landlord is getting money from the renters that is their who pays the bill for the water he does not who pays the bill docents do we have court documents do we have Pap who pays the bill for the water do we have paperwork for what water is the land on oh I'm sorry it's on his do we have documentation I need y to give him space do we have do we have documentation to prove that you pay for the water right now yes it's on my light bill see let me see it no you can contact track county okay then he's turning the water on right now no nobody's turn my water WR pay that bill do you have a ex Excuse excuse do you sir do you have a superior officer so I can speak with I can give you the if you want to talk to I need one out here right now okay well you're going to wait that water's turned down and we're going to go over here off your name right here 368 can I get another unit 51 to me perfect the wheel has been damaged your name again sir right here no I'm I'm asking you I don't have to answer your question it's right here property and he hasn't he's not supposed to be on I want him off my property want him arrested yeah I want him off my property I want him arrested head back back to the other house for me I want him arrested okay thank you I want him off my property I will call you in so all of the proper I got a big issue verbal going on right now between me the occupants and the landlord of the other property M do me he hey Mama officer just so you know I'm roolling um video tape me too sir that's awesome we can do it together get water now now I cut I got a 22 verbal happening right now I'd like another unit 51 to me I also have a subject 1012 requesting a supervisor you want to get arrested come in my he has a trespassing from this this area from this land okay well that's why you came with me the land includes that property I love how you're doing okay that's his landlord that those are the landlords they have a notorized agreement she owns the entire land they have a notorized agreement Len with who not the owner of the land okay that piece of property over there the trailer not the like that trailer do me okay go find the D somebody go find the de go find the D I am 100% fine if you can give me documentation we can work this out but otherwise with what documentation I've been given from one side that shows a notorized document showing the financial obligation with the family involved and the landlord him so has the landlord provided you documentation that he pays a water bill yes I've had the no not that that's that's what I'm asking that's the part we're talking about I'm dying to see this documentation that your mother will not give me listen we're going to get it now okay there's no legal OB obligation for her to give you the paperwork back if this solves the situation I asked her where's the documentation before you you you turned the water on without seeing okay because I don't move before I don't need if he's the landlord of that property and the water legally you you you can legally lie to me so that I'm not legally lying but that could be a lie so he showed you legal documentation that well if you think everything I say is a lie then I I'm not going to talk to you anymore if that's how it's going to be that's that's fine I asked to speak to your supervisor that was it that was it what what I would like everybody to do is all of y'all Walk This Way I don't want this man feeling like he fear for his life I'm not I'm 100% fine I mean I'm I'm going to take two steps away from you sir okay I'll take three steps this way there you go how about that is that better do you feel better I I feel perfectly fine I'm safe on my mom's land this is 100% my mom's land yeah right okay so anything that happens out here okay has to be going through her okay not him okay he has a trespassing warn against him on this property 368 does have any 14ts outstanding for this address but nobody checked that before you send him out here he does don't have to okay so he could have walked out here and killed my mom right now you could man who threats towards my mom's and you that's why he came with a deputy that didn't happen everything was okay until everybody started yelling your sister included your sister started that that loud match screaming across the property again that's why I walked in notice how I announced myself because I didn't want to get shot at I appreciate so that that's the situation we're at right now so now I have all of these deputies coming here to back me up including a supervisor which I don't have to give you understand that but I did it anyway because I'm trying to solve this situation just civil matter again I'm not trying to get in a a piss match with you so you got the gun you got the all of that he doesn't have any 14ts which is a trespass warning he doesn't have any okay well he does okay he doesn't not in Jefferson County sir not a problem this is what I need y'all to do he got a bunch of Supervisors and stuff coming here by my request we're going to speak to those people cuz I want to know why they can call and they show up I've been calling them for days they have not show my help at all what's your what's your name cuz I can tell you right now if you've called us oh yes I called okay what about and we didn't come out at all no you did not well that's unconstitutional but every time they so i' like I'd like to know the you ask yourself why he has come over here to get the water on asking anybody say yes why do you come to her house to turn your water on because that's the well that shares both properties that's right exactly and I'm the one that paying for it okay well I haven't seen any documentation to show that you pay for it so okay he no no Sylvester Sylvester I don't I don't need you to yell over me ma'am he's not going to listen to you Sylvester go back over to your car and hang out there I got another deputy coming they're pulling in right now go talk to them Mr Hill yes first name Bas is Sylvester D I'm tired of this those people call and they run out here all the time I am sick of them calling the police on me nobody's calling anybody every time I look around they call I the pay nice and neat they called they called me for the well cuz I have a whole family in there that's without water on Christmas I could care less of this it off we're also without water godamn it shut up Daman it supports both everybody if you can't listen step that way everybody they have dogs over there cats all kind of things on this property my mom asked not to have any of those things on this property okay they still have dogs she's called animal control and all that what's the address for this and that is no it is not have you checked recently no mailbox go it's not a property that's a mailbox that's a mailbox I buddy buddy with them and you take so if it's 30 ma'am no no no that that let's not start twisting it here all right I have right my pump ain't coming back on it's off no you can't get down no supervisor how you doing sir you name buris buris yep how you doing I'm Daman course okay okay um so once again my mom has a trespassing warrant against my uncle okay got one on me this entire property is owned by her yeah you kind Deputy came out here and turned the water on without even saying a word the landlord did again this this is a matter that needs to be handled in court excuse me but turning you turn on water where I no he said I turned it on I did not turn it on okay cuz this is and that's this well is shared between both properties and that's shares the same well bills here okay well he apparently pays the bills over there but he's paying bills at he don't pay them here all he pays for the well water for that address this house no that's the water for this house and that house for the entire land okay and I'm not turning back on that she owns but here's the problem okay tell me what the problem is so under statute are they tenants no yes they are tenants they're his he Supply water to them but they live on the property that that's illegally they did not get it through her I am trying to get them off okay so you have to do to the court I'm going to the court but I am not rec no no no no cuz I asked the deputy when he came here I did it as a favor I am not required by law provide them by law you required I am not you wanted a supervisor here to explain the situation you got one so water and heat not power water and heat is he is yeah he's supposed to that this is this property right no this is her property nothing here this is all one piece property difference she owns you're right but but so what that does is that falls back to her as the landlord for the whole problem I am not a landlord she I did not agree with him being here no no listen what I'm saying because you own the whole property you fall as a landlord if you're allowing him to rent that house out I'm not allowing him he did legally without her permission but you have to go through Court I'm going through that okay but before you go to court he's required Water and Power Sylvester needs to give him water question though if he made a leas agreement without her it's not binding I am not he needs both of them correct but but he is not the issue right now the problem issue who's the issue I'm going to tell you just hold on R it's the tenants okay the tenants are who are whose rights you're technically violating by cutting off the WW but there's no least agreement between her and the I asked them the day they moved on here I told them then I said you are on his property please leave they call the sheriff again but you have no trespass warnings right they don't have Sylvester doesn't now it wasn't here no no but I'm saying there are no trespassing warning yes there is I'm telling you our dispatch does not have any tresp I don't know what it is I have my copies can we see the can we see the copies my cop we see the Cofe this this will go wayoo so what I'm saying is it doesn't matter if he sub if he sub you get sub leing it the problem is she's the owner for the whole property so in the eyes of all she's the landlord head landlord you what I'm saying evicted get off my property so if she's the landlord can she a victim the okay well we'll go to the then I'm saying is under the wall and let's say she's breaking a wall if she cuts water or heat what law are they breaking by still they're not the well is shared between both yeah okay so if no if they're not paying their water bill which has not been paid by there's two different there there's two different water bills because there's two different so there's two different water bills because there's one well water bill yes okay so there's two different water bills water bill in Sylvester's name as well yes so he's paying theirs okay and yeah no but the problem is the one well that's [Music] the that's what started all so as far as they have dog and cat up [Music] always they will not come out here what what can we do she's afraid of them she can't even walk out of her door without I mean when it comes to animal control with the nuisance animals that's kind of something that we don't really partake in to be honest with you I mean you can take them to court the tenants because of the nuisance animals but I I would just bug this s out of animal control or go buy their their office and talk to them in person ultimately call Animal Control are they going to deal with the animal maybe I mean that's a totally different question about stuff that's that's not then what happens yeah it's not if they bite that's so um that's you he what I'm saying now that's the issue so so I they got what's that guy's name Sylvester so they got you have one well and there's two different properties the way that the Jefferson County property appraiser lists it he is paying his own bill for the water coming from that well and you guys are paying your bill for the water documentation for that I we can go I can go over there and ask them well or is it power no it's it's well it's one well it shouldn't show up differently whoever's paying this power is paying for all nobody has shown me records they're they're one entire Bill well that's like I say she can stop paying it she can stop paying it and it's not on her the the issue is the cutting of the water that that is the biggest water is the problem so she stops paying it it's fine but she can't cut it off yeah she can't cut it off okay and then and that's the all but here's the here's the problem with the p with the heat in statute it literally just says heat does not say what means so if you cut power I mean that's going to be their only source of heat it's probably going to be and and hear me out it's going to be an issue in court it's not something we're going to be like yeah we're taking her to jail but if they sue her they're going to they she going own it so you know what I'm saying I mean if you want to hang out and Wai on a sergeant he'll get here in 30 minutes or so I don't know when perfectly I thought you was I'm not shft supervisor there's a sergeant on day shift he's coming off but he's I think he's coming here tell you the same [ __ ] I just told you so what what were you what he's the I'm just Deputy I'm I'm night shift supervisor night shift supervisor y so like I say I mean if you want to hang out with on him to tell you the same thing that's cool but is is your mom that's that was your mom right is she bringing out the trespass paper okay who's the trespassing on apparently they both have one for each other other it might be a protection order I don't have myone but [ __ ] I can call him and ask him but well he said 54 yeah so it might be a protection order cuz some people get that confused sometimes he's not supposed to so how he owns that what does the deed say as far as water cuz normally the de will just spell that out pretty clearly hopefully my mom I I don't want to tell you anything that's incorrect so hope she's bringing here's the thing is what we're trying to do is get through like today obviously I could give two [ __ ] about it being Chrismas I I honestly don't care no no no I what I'm saying is we're trying to get through today that's what we're here for I don't care whether it's christm or not what I'm saying is that either way we don't have the fix for it because we're not the judge right so you guys which is why I'm saying like the water shouldn't have been cut on on or off without a judge like no it's got to you got to abide within the law if he has rights to that water he doesn't have rights to the water well if that's the only well that this is what I'm saying what I'm saying deed wise okay him being here is no different than a man up the street walking up here and saying he lives here Sylvester has his name is not attached to not from from Street to Street what is the relation brother sister brother and sister yes I think it was an air an air property sounds like you been talk what's her name to yeah she's the only one I saw on it but I didn't I've heard I I can't confirm if it's an air property or not I just heard that it was an air property from the tenant you tell me if I'm wrong it's Sylvester's tenant and he's responsible for making all whatever I have no agreement with them this is one on her this is yeah this is one on her stop fre was a hote again yeah 2018 this is another one on her come on how don't she the first one is on there because I charged him $50 for using this water he refused to pay but you're you're the one that's a sub subject I have on him you that's what I'm saying I want him arrested for being on my property so arrest him for being on my property I want him arrested for being on my property we just checked we don't have any record of that no record of what of him being trespassed from this property he was just on the property he was standing here no we don't have any record of him ever being trespassed you want him trespassed now what is this this this is where you're the you're the subject you're the one this is where you got trespassed we're going back in the house come on yeah please I don't need him out here going back inside you don't know how to so ultimately from what I'm gathering this stems from and I'm I'm going to say supposedly because I'm not taking sides but supposedly him having tenants here illegal um I I would have to I can't confir mom does not want anybody on his property with her her property okay that's all I can tell but are you saying to this to these bushes or are you saying no I'm saying to St Augustine Ro is 100% her problem cuz apparently it got parceled right the the problem is we have two different addresses here that's what property appraiser says not me Jefferson County property appraiser property appraiser the the county the County property appraiser they come out and take all the surveys what's the date on that that 20 the most recent I don't know where the date is so there's two pieces there's two property or there's two buildings on this property uhhuh who name do you see there that's that's this one standing on all the way back to the what that's no that that one's no what what does that say yes it says 60 trespass War I want him arrested he's not allowed to be here and he know that so it's 60 he's using Y as weapon against me and you are allow him verifi dispatch my brother is weaponizing you all against me well we're not going to be weaponized by anybody but but you have to understand that we we interpret the law and the officer who wrote this up let me speak if you don't mind I'm not trying to cut you off the officer who wrote me up I asked him then do you have you don't have a 14t on Sylvester on $500 light that I had they what about Cas 24987 I can't AFF to do that it was people in the house to give me $10 per month that's how all this started you have it on a separate meter no it's all here the well it's all here no but is the well on a separate meter or it's all here and I've been paying all these years I I said to the officer then I said I'm not paying for strangers he said we give them a couple of months to get off the property and then you can turn the water off names on the paper okay here's what here's here's the the best device I give you is leave the water on it give it two weeks go that's the legal way to do I took that bike for the first time you a got me at but you all back here saying that I'm doing it wrong I I haven't you just as showing as what and why this property move on this property when are you going to move this house move your home and go wherever you go could you just one yeah just one more time tell that officer you just gave that paper to arrest I want us to arrest him and off my prop and off my prop he legally you said you're out here he can't go against that paper that when that man wrote that up he told me that I'm not allowed in that house in that house all this9 when was it withdrawn every 69 I'm and it doesn't give you a reason I I don't yall y'all take all the emotion out of this sir can we have that carried out okay yeah let me know that's what we're calling a verify thank you so much all right I'm getting information is while I'm talking so was withdrawn on the 13th of July it when's it issued the 4th of July as far as RMS do if it's withdrawn so we're trying to figure out was withdrawn by her we we're trying to figure it out yeah this sound this is like a load of court yeah stuff it all is you get what I'm saying it's all it's all civil so rather than put yourself in a position to where you're at fault cut off the water the water you don't want to do that it's fine okay okay as long as you know okay so it doesn't tell you who withdrew it or anything them being here is illegal also okay all right sir thank you is he getting arrested no no because she withdrew the trespass warning yeah it's showing withdrawn and we have no records of it in the system so who withw it you did no I did not on the 13th of July no I did not in fact I after the service to Mr Weaver in our in our database yeah can we see that yeah if you want to drive to the Sheriff's Office I'm sure they can show it to you but it's going to be a records request I mean it's not going to be something we can just show you okay so records requests you can't just deny us like that understand records request I walk in and make a request a record request you got to give it to me on demand I do not so I do not the sheriff off has to give it to me on demand I understand record request so you say that word there's a three-day hope there's a three-day wait to get the records three-day wait yes ma'am not Accord to statute it is it now as for artist people that same day I asked that man Mr Weaver to be served as well to be off the property and he is that who lives in that house yes yeah there's no way we can serve him in trespass warning he's a tenant you can evict him that's the problem with it he has rights well I'm in the process I have rights okay well like I say I mean the the problem is you guys are all in the Civil ground it has to be done through Court it can't be done going Tit for Tat and it can't be called by I'm not doing tip fortat he's doing tip forat I called yall one time because I had a dog on my front porch growling at me trying to attack it attack me and nobody showed up yet I haven't called on Sylvester or that man yet I called because I was being attacked by a dog and no one has come to this house yet but the moment about to call you all y'all round up and come out I can't I can't well he's here cuz he wanted a supervisor but outside of that I can't speak for what the deputies have done in the past I've never been out here cuz I've never been dispatched here I I've never been here so I both of us I don't know so I mean we can do a name jacket and check to see the last time you called us but our last time we had a call with your name on it but I mean then like he said it's kind of a tit fortat thing I mean we're just justifying TI for tapping I was trying to save my life cuz your dog is on my front porch at okay and I can't say if we were here or not I cuz I don't know the okay so if that was withdrawn get a new one today tomorrow that seems how it work but this is documentation to get a new one she would had Ser a new one right I don't know if they make her sign or not oh really a lieutenant is the only one that can withdraw them so so who's the lieutenant that withdrew it I don't know that's not on the documentation we didn't look at it that's Co for us for us it doesn't matter as long as it's withdrawn yeah so who withdrew it it's not something we they withdrew it from the system and they withdrew it you all withw something that I put in because if you request for I didn't request it and how do you how do you all how do you all document that I made the request because you're the one who made that request so you're the only because the officer was on my property you're the I made this request because that man made one against me if I can't call I can't answer any questions so that's where I'm at with it don't you're the only one you're the only one that can withdraw it you made the request you're the only person that that withraw that's what I'm trying to tell you I didn't I don't know it's 5 months ago would she I can't do it would she have to go in personally and withdraw it or over the phone uh normally it's in person I don't know I mean I'm sure it's been done rarely over the phone but it was on a it was on a day that we didn't work so I I can't tell you so so we've been trying to serve people that gentleman for the longest for for for weeks what papers eviction papers for we don't die well and we uhhuh and they just got served last Friday okay and it shouldn't take 3 months to get them done if it was last Friday normally it's 30 days so the surf y'all get 30 days to Surf and then the vacate it's normally 30 days once once the deputy yeah that's that's our civil Department who all this silver the courthouse dep four of them yeah and so this conveniently got withdrawn is my I'm not saying that I don't know if it's convenient or not withdrawn so let me ask you did you check and see if it went on me because he did one on me was mine withdrawn as well I I don't know that's a we're doing a tit fortat now no no no no I'm asking you question checked and said that M was withdrawn I that's never been an issue want me to be honest with you I don't know how he did one on you you're the property owner so I don't know how to off but anyway I don't know but that's what he said earlier is we have no idea what was done in the past we're here tonight we're dealing with this that's what I'm trying to tell you he is using Y as a weapon to me he calls you all out here and I'm always okay yes sir what sign I sign but over over what do we come out here for the water the water being turned off he's right about the water he can come out here and turn on the water he can he can have us escort him to the property turn on the water and that's what I did that War I don't have the money I don't have the fs I am broke I'm retired has to shut that off you cannot shut it off you're the landlord because you own the property mine is off well it it's the one well that share you both share the same well um please feel free to go turn my faucet off my water's off okay so he said what he said was is that you can stop paying it but you cannot shut it off so do not pay it next month issue a new trespassing warrant against him oh I want to do a trespassing now and then and let them go can I do a trespassing now I mean please the sergeant just showed up Sir she's ask but is there a reason why she I'm going to let the sergeant no that's not correct I brought a sergeant to you guys so I don't know why we're having this this issue because we don't want him back again he's not supposed to be out here I get like I get that we don't want him over here I get that so what I'm going to do is when the sergeant comes over here he will explain it to you all and then he will tell me if that's what we're going to do because now the scene is he's in charge of the scene now so he just showed up so there's a sergeant over there right now had to come over here yes he's probably talking to the other Deputy all right let me let me cuz I don't need a bunch of people screaming and and doing I'm not going to scream I'm not screaming I need to know what's going on because I'm going to court with her on the 31st for the protection order I need to know what's going on who oh you're going with yes okay we have protection yeah they they mentioned something they mentioned something about a court date you don't got to tell all saying we're now working with him and he's talking with us so we need to get assistance he's not the person to give you assistance we do need to get out of the Mind set that we're the enemies here cuz we're in the middle of it much like you guys are I understand yall in the middle of it but so the only thing that can happen here is what's legal right and that the issue is she's asking right right legally saying you have to you have to wait to find out from she leg she just told you she doesn't feel safe around that man right but here's the issue right now until this is cleared in the court he's the landlord for those or she's technically the landlord but they're paying him so what we're trying to figure out is if we can because he's saying that he's got rights to that piece and she's saying the same thing exactly so while we're trying to work through the situation I don't want to lie to her and say let's let's get a trespass and then the sergeant just a little B please and then I'm I'm not going to kill you buddy I'm I'm not I'm not about that okay but I don't want her I don't want to lie to her because apparently you you had the issue with me lying I'm not trying to lie so I don't want to lie to your mother and then the sergeant come over and overrule that and then you call me a liar you see what I'm saying so I want him to be the final word because you requested a sergeant thanks he's here okay so he'll be the final word and that'll be the end of it because I don't want any more of this well he said well she will they no I I'm trying to end that right now so that's why I'm I'm hesitant to tell your mom something I know she didn't she didn't take the trespass and warrant she didn't well first off it's not a warrant or whatever it is a warant morning Town officer yes ma'am can I get your name and Bash number please it's right here you get the first and the last I just see a b is there another be goodie up there no your badge number is 368 my pen is not writing okay so now I will be contacting the sheriff yes ma'am as well as FDLE okay yes ma'am CU I don't think this is right okay I don't understand how paperwork get withdrawn okay saying it was done by me I want your sergeant you said my Sergeant's over there yes I get his information to let me get a better pen and a better paper okay so how is this supposed to work anyway if she doesn't want them on the property so they could live over there without ever paying that's the that's the problem that's why that that's why Court needs to happen like tomorrow because this is an issue between they they're brother and sister right right okay I don't know how he got Buster cannot come over here okay he won't come over here yell out to a sergeant it sounds like his voice is ding this way okay he he can't come over here how y'all doing this evening good how are you y'all ask to talk to me I did I'm sorry how are you mother to bad how are you good you're ni Jim stutler and you are hey man I recognize you um yes sir you look familiar I just can't remember with the uh at at Jefferson County a while ago I I was there 2002 back Mike Jordan and all long time way before a hot minute again yeah that was a hot minute I was down in South Florida burning up okay so um here's here is kind of the issue what we have um the terminology is going to be messed up cuz I don't I don't just go ahead I I I kind of got a picture of it my mom has a trespassing warrant warrning warning against syester apparently it got withdrawn withdrawn okay magically um with all of this craziness that's going on mhm she didn't withdraw this um that water over there this this entire Pro is 100 people are living here without very very long discussion last night M okay and this is where I'm at I am not going to go to court and fight her to stay here I I don't want to stay here if it's going to be this kind of life I I don't want it so is all I am going to court to fight her on is ample amount of time to get my finances to where I can move that's all I want that that is all I need I I mean I poured everything I had into this I mean I had $40,000 in the bank when I started this and I had to redo the floors redo the electrical redo the plumbing redo the walls redo everything I built the porch and then I ran out of money before I could finish it but I you know I was slowly doing it but I I'm just I'm just over it I just need if you can tell her that I look he's not even gonna I don't want to fight her to stay here permanently I'm not doing that I I just need time I mean it's hard to move with five kids and and that's understandable but from unless she's changed her mind she doesn't care I I Sylvester can fight to stay here I I don't care that's that that's that's going to be his fight I mean you could sue you could Sue Sylvester I think I think he has a leg to stand on with the property somewhere along the line because it never went through probate and it's a air property that he didn't sign off on only the two sisters did well it's his trailer too so yes that that's going to be his battle to fight um it just sucks for you and your family cuz you're you're in the middle of it I took my letter and had it uh my unlawful detainer response letter to judge Plains this morning so I did all that I recorded all that so now I'll have a court date to go stand in front of her and judge Plains where I'll make it very apparent that look lady I I I don't want this life I I but I I I honestly think that you put a bunch of money into this place possibly I've been working on it since June I mean you could Sue Sylvester to get the money back yeah I've been working on it since June and they watched me they watched me work on it they watched me gut the entire house I threw all the sheet rock right there I'm still picking up pieces I everything they watched me completely redo the floors they watched every bit of it and then when the work stopped it was right around like December 2nd I had to pull back and focus on Christmas for the kids when the work stopped then she wanted it then she wanted me out so I mean I get it I understand um I I I get it but but she she was cordial with you up until then well I never even talked to her never even had any dealings with so you so you had no no knowledge that there was any issue between her and him none so I don't know you I think I think you've got I'm going to have to sue them both yeah yeah I'm pretty sure you can I mean I'm not I'm not a lawyer but I say you have a good chance with Sylvester but I don't know about her but I I would sue both of them yeah we're we we'll go over there well the things you can sue people for these days you'd be I mean you could also sue her for the surprised exactly and she could sue you back but I mean you could sue her for the well cuz this is her property yeah that that would be him as a landlord her as the property owner is kind of like a joint he's brought her into it but I think part of it is according to her last night he was supposed to have hooked up to Jefferson County Water 10 years ago and just never did do we know if she's connected to Jefferson water no it's a well it's just a it's not through the city actually I know the guy cuz I paid freaking guy for the will was part of my contract with Vester yeah oh so he's not renting to you he's renting to own with you yes that's kind of almost a little bit different um monthly installments the down [Music] [Applause] payment almost sounds like Sylvester used you to fix the nice the place up all night well that's going to be really bad on him if that's the case cuz I mean I have Paper Trails for all of it most of it was done you know through my bank account so I don't know he's talking about his sister didn't have the right to sell to the other sister but then he's selling to you when he doesn't have the right to sell it well he wasn't it states in there it's not property it states in there that it is a air property and it is for the trailer only oh okay it does state that he was not trying to sell me the property he I did not want the property I wanted to pay this off and then I wanted to move it my father also died this year uh in May and I have that was financially all me well at least you still have the hitches so you can honestly move pretty easily and he left me the property in Lloyd acres and I I mean well I mean Mr James not for nothing but um if you're lease to own with Sylvester is for the residents and the residents only move it to your property in Lloyd Acres it doesn't quite matter where the piece the trailer is as long as you keep but I mean that's up to you no I mean but here's the problem is it if you're going to have to deal with her because if you move this trailer she's going to say that it's hers and then you're going to have a well he has the title Sylvester has the title it is in his name I witnessed it I actually put my eyes on it before I agreed to anything and I never wanted the land so I didn't even you know he told me it was an air property I said okay it'll take me according to my contract it'll take me 3 and A2 years with monthly installments to pay this off and my plan was to pay it off and then move it I did not want to be here for that now I definitely don't want to be here another 3 and 1/2 years absolutely do well or another 3 years I'm sorry if her gripe is solely the cost of running the well well her gripe is also her gripe is also the fact that you guys are here on her property yeah and she doesn't want you to be I and I get that I had no idea it's not like I'm like spitefully like oh you know to hell with you Miss Dorothy I don't even know you you know I just I messed up honestly well and you didn't mess up because it what you didn't know anything I tried to do everything I took it to the notary and they said yeah this is all fine this is good I said okay now now is there a front to this house off of yeah 69 West there should be yeah okay then we need to go to the front door and knock on the front door and make contact with her I would I don't want to through the backyard yeah I'm not going to walk through the backyard well I mean it was yesterday I mean she fired like probably 15 shots and then the water cut off it might not have been like I me there was a lot of people there though whole family was over there so it no one well it it was from over there yeah oh yeah we can ride over there to that side I would be feel better going to the front door so I called so I called and he said go over and look at the pump I said the hell would you but no you come go look at the pp absolutely not yeah yeah she she definitely isn't going to budge with him no see and they I so you're the bottom line is technically she can't state claim to something that's air property without the signature of all the people Sylvester was involved and his signature is not there so that he has a some kind of Court issue with her as far as documents go that we have available to us today she is the owner of oh I looked this address yeah this address ties back yeah it's public it's public information I looked it up through the proper the only ties he has to this property is this trailer in in the claim that his parents said this is yours this is yours this is yours um and that he's been living here ever since whether that holds up in court is to be seen to the court yeah that's that's to the court uh I would rather not go over there until y'all come say it's okay yeah yeah absolutely or Y or nay yeah because I don't know I just don't know now if she says kick sand we kick sand but you can sue her yeah cuz she's in viol Technically she's the property owner and therefore the landlord and she is with holding utility from you which is a tenant landlord civil I have no contract with her though it doesn't matter is she still my landlord she is still your landlord quas yeah so she is she either you can sue her or she owes you 3 months of rent it it's it it's weird this is a [ __ ] storm of a problem really is and that's why we just want out of it at this point I mean it's going to take me I I know it's going to take you and I know it's stressful to think it's hard to even say how long it would take you to find a place and then but at the same time you know I mean it with her being the landlord of the property it it's her say yeah you can fight it in court I like you you have but I mean now you can ask or say hey if it's a if it's a matter of what it cost to run this pump for the water what dollar amount does that come out to I mean if you want to I will gladly pay that until I can leave or split it with her I mean no I will pay it I will just pay it just so that my family can bathe and I can cook and and and and I'm just Mr James I'm just throwing that out there you know for you maybe to her is that something you could could swallow for a short period yes oh yeah I mean it'd be a lot easier than moving in the next 5 days I I a lot cheaper mhm yeah well that's something that we'll we'll cross that bridge when we go over there there and then I just but if you could just make it clear to her that I have no intentions on fighting her to stay here long term I just and if she's if she's willing we could have you over there if she's okay with it and you can say that to or yourself so it's all it it's not a we're not the owls of the situation even if Sylvester goes in and they give him this side of the property guess what we're still living right there what in the [ __ ] there's what oh and the animal control thing uh I have on record that I'm actually the one that called Animal Control these have been here since I moved here my dog is inside and my dog is chipped it has records are the cat's a problem I adopted it yeah look they're on your truck well besides that I mean well I mean they don't hurt nothing well she said they were they don't hurt nothing so you know it just keeps m r yeah now there was a big dog we had picked up a few days ago like it was like a really I want to say he had a big dog didn't he Sylvester I don't know I can't remember it was a anyway it was a giant dog and my kids would couldn't even come outside so I was like okay let let us get over there and and attempt to make contact with her she may or may not be there or come to the door I don't know but we'll try for you I appreciate it sir thank all right she's probably at work I she's retired I thought she said yeah I thought she said she was retired she works still works at there I can't you want to talk to the Juds you're right yeah I mean I don't know what what the deputy said so far but if today's a work day for the for the county and it doesn't look like there's anybody there yeah she's at work um you may may stop by the property R's office and say hey Miss Dorothy um I don't want to be a pain in your side if we can work something out about this well you know I mean yeah well she has a she doesn't there's nothing there's nothing here there's no trespass War I was told she did no she doesn't no she doesn't you'd get a copy of it oh oh I was also told by Captain uh Massie Massie to give you guys the copy of the letter the the letter that I the response they made a copy of it because I'm not allowed to or I thought I wasn't allowed to go give it to her but I guess I can if you say if you file it with the court they should give it to her they should give it to her yeah I did I I have it I I filed it this morning and they just gave me a copy okay I I I don't know probably under the assumption you were trespassed yeah that's probably why he yeah told us to give it yeah I mean if if you have to give it I don't know why it would be your responsibility to give it to her yeah I thought it was kind of weird too I was like hey but hey I I I don't do court stuff if if it is your respon I'd call up there and say hey I just want to make sure I'm doing things the right way am I supposed to give her a copy of it mail it oh that's a great idea I mail in put it in the mail with a with a with a the receipt that would it would cost you a couple bucks but to make sure she got it you know fine yeah as but I'd call them first and say hey are you giving her a copy or am I got to give her a copy yeah I mean it I'm not telling you to go up there and talk to her but and talking to the judge is fine I can go talk to like I said you can talk to whoever you want you want to talk to the judge by all means you know where he's at I mean they if it's if there's if that's inappropriate they'll tell you yeah it feels inappropriate that's why I well the judge will know if it's inappropriate yeah his staff will be able to tell you yeah but other than that it's a waiting game unfortunately sorry you're stuck in the middle man yeah that's exactly what it on your wife's birthday too yeah my wife your wife's birthday yeah yeah tell her happy birthday for us yeah like I said if you want if talk to your wife if you want to stop up there and talk to Miss Dorothy I don't see what can she tell you I don't want to talk to you you're like okay I'm sorry to bother you I would do it I mean you could do voice recording what do you mean like record the interaction not I know yeah I don't know cuz then you're getting into like the wir tap blw if they don't have knowledge of it yeah they have to know that they're being I mean a public place I mean the courthouse of property of Fraser is got video recording I'm sure yeah I don't know if they have audio recording might but yeah yeah I mean it can't hurt to try to talk to the lady you know human to human she might be a little bit calmer today than she was yesterday yeah she's pretty ticked off and I'm sure her family didn't have her any less hyped up so that's your those are your options chill out or go up there and talk to the judge and talk to her I'm going to I'm going to go talk to some [Music] people try to at least have water while we're still here yeah um everything else like like I said I'm not I'm not fighting or anything and once I leave here I'm suing Sylvester and then I she can have with place cuz he's not going to well you have a contract with Sylvester for the the residents yes but it also States in my contract that I would never have to move it ever really yes well it's also not something that he can give you yeah which is absolutely unlawful yeah the the paper you have is golden yeah it's almost some parts of it aren't lawful in my from what I've gathered so far cuz he he he he's given you Authority but he doesn't have it to give so he's it's kind of putting you in he of unlawful binding well maybe he did I mean well he thought it was air property I fully believe that I I fully believe he thought it was air I I I don't know I have no clue always try to think the best of people but yeah yeah I'm starting to yeah starting to go a different direction on that as well but I'm going to have to it like I I mean even suing someone that doesn't guarantee I'm going to get my money I mean he doesn't they're not going to force him to but you'll never well if you win the lawsuit he will have to how well he could be faced with I mean he'll he'll he'll it'll be the court will be able to dictate that if it's if you win a lawsuit like that they have to pay you it's not just something it's by the judge's order so at that point that's that's almost binding now if he refuses to pay he could be faced with some sort of Court judicial punishment yeah I think so I'm not exactly that that's civil that we don't deal with yeah but if you win a monetary amount of a suit's yeah then they're obligated to pay that okay so once once that hits will that go into like a uh I don't know what the word what the words are almost like a garnishment um to where he owes you the money kind of thing well he brags he's got a nice little retirement stacked up so maybe they'd garnish it from that maybe I don't know it's up to the judge yeah that's that's all civil stuff up to the judge anything I mean anything else we can no I I mean I mean we can try this again later but yeah if she I'm just going to go to Walmart and buy a bunch of water so we can at least flush the toilets and stuff like that just keep records of it even the receipts you buy from or even the water keep your receipts mhm get your little wedger and start writing it down it wouldn't even be bad to take that ledger back to the to the very beginning keep it in like chronological order CU at this point if she's the landlord of the property and everything that we've seen she is she's in violation of landlord tenant law so keep records on all of it so by her turning the water off she is in violation it by the documentation that we have presently it yes she's the landlord although she wasn't in agreeance because it was Sylvester's doing so it all ties into their issues their civil stuff but by the letter of the law she is the landlord of this property and therefore the well being turned off is in violation of your tenant law so that is once again civil and you can sue her for all of the the mon value that you if the judge writes a statement saying she has to turn the water back on then she won't be able to touch it when we go over there I mean she could stop paying it but they the you know if that depending if that's a separate service or not it's uh it falls under the electric bill her residential electric bill yeah she apparently stated though no documentation was given that she is paying the electric bill for both residences no she's not no cuz there's there's a power meter when it comes to when it comes to the power when it comes to the the meter insted when I got here so this the power to this residence is in your name yes sir okay well there you go there's another it's another thing that that's not quite true well all I'm saying is it's another foothold on this piece of property because now you have place is this place is there's no reason that there should be nothing that ruins Christmas well but there's no there the weird thing is even though technically by property appraisers that shouldn't be there because this on property appraisers is all one piece of property yeah have two homes on one but if it's but you can but now because it is because on property appraiser as of December 2024 from West caps Highway all the to this road is 649 I looked it up but your address now has its own 911 and it has its own meter which shouldn't it shouldn't be that way there should be one meter and one well which there's only one well but there's two meters and two 911s which is not they have got a conundrum here so I it's it's a big legal something something's going on that's between her and Sylvester based off of what we see cuz it's all kind of assumption at the moment but this this is confusing as hell document wise this is annoying and I'm glad I'm only about 8 months into it and I'm getting the hell out of there but like I said think about stopping up there and talking to her you know say hey what's it going to take she might tell you to pounce in maybe and then at that point you say Miss Dorothy have a great day then it's all up to the judge from me yes sir yep it's always comes down to the judge so just trying to wish the best for you yeah yeah I'm try to have a going to shoot back to the courthouse all right Captain Williams is very helpful too I guess he deals in he's the Civil guy the Civil Supervisor over that so that's his realm all right I really appreciate it guys thank you all for coming hey not a problem I wish there's more we could do for you man yeah it's it's not y'all it's I mean all this boils down to their sibling world but some reason I would hate to know that I hated my sister or hated my brother that much it's more common than you think really yeah especially when it comes to parents pass away yeah my brothers are completely losers as a matter of fact anybody with my last name out of my generation is probably I mean y'all have probably heard my last name before I'm quite sure of it and I mean they're and I still don't hate them that much you know what I mean I mean I don't associate with them but I don't hate them yeah wow well we're going to get out of here go back to the courthouse and then I'm go back to work yeah oh you you might you might want to talk to her oh yeah before she goes to lunch by the uh certy well she works at the uh D the tax collector yeah she's uh over in the annex side yep old school