That wasn't a little finger stuck out the window when I went by you. I don't answer questions. I don't know how it is. Okay, we run back with you. I just have a quick question then. Um, what was the reason for the stop? Leave your middle finger sticking out the window. You had something to tell me. I wanted you to tell me to my face. Welcome back to the Lackluster channel. Mr. Jay was traveling southbound with his wife on 9mm Road in North Carolina when he noticed a law enforcement vehicle approaching from the opposite direction. As it passed, Mr. J gave the deputy a single finger salute. Moments later, the deputy turned around and got behind him as Mrs. J began recording. Luckily, why do you think we're getting pulled over? I don't know what he wants me to do. you reporting? Yeah. Mr. Jay pulled over and is approached by a deputy of the Carter County Sheriff's Office. Are you, sir? Good afternoon, officer. How are you? Yourself. Uh, before I say anything else, uh, by the state of North Carolina, I have the duty to inform you that I'm currently in civil war. He's okay. Were you waving at me when I went by? No. That wasn't middle finger stuck out the window when I went by you. I don't answer questions. I don't know how it is. Okay. Be right back with you. The unidentified deputy returns to his cruiser and Mr. J begins recording. Scott pulled over and he even said, "It wasn't you just sticking your middle finger up at me." So far, no other reason has been alleged for the purpose of stopping the family. And shortly after, a supervisor appears on scene and speaks with the deputy that initiated the stop. Uh, looks like two. They usually always get back up. Mr. J is blurred as he is an active duty member of the military and was legally carrying a concealed firearm at the time. contrary to the Second Amendment, but still required under North Carolina law. He informed the deputy that he was armed and presented his valid concealed carry permit, vehicle registration, and driver's license. The deputy returns a few minutes later, pointing out that Mr. J was listed in their system as a North Carolina resident, but held a Pennsylvania license. You have to go to military. I'll answer questions. Okay. Are are you active duty military? Cuz you're showing a Havlock address. So if you are, that's fine. I'm fine with it. If you're not active duty military and you're living in Havlock with a Pennsylvania driver's license, that's illegal. So if you want to try my patience, I'll be more than happy to oblige you. Sure. I'm active duty military. I see military ID. Is it okay if I reach for it? Sure. You don't point yours at me, I will point mine to you. Well, that's good to hear. The family has now been detained and Mr. Jay's papers seized for nearly 10 minutes without an explanation as to what the deputy's legal justification for the stop was. Now handing over his military ID, Mr. J inquires what the reason for the stop is. I just have a quick question then. Um, what was the reason for the stop? Your middle finger sticking out the window. You had something tell me I want you to tell me to my face. So officer officer listen. No, you listen to me. Okay. Now you listen. I I have to say that it the Supreme Court has held that it is a constitutionally protected activity. No, it's not. Yes, it is. In North Carolina, it it is a disorderly conduct and it's by statute disorderly conduct. I don't care what the Supreme Court says. It it has Supreme Court of the land. I will lock you up and you can fight at the Supreme Court. I'm trying to be decent to you. I'm just curious as to why you don't want to be decent if you're active duty military. Do you not have respect for authority? Obviously, you don't. So, if you don't, that's fine. Flipping off a law enforcement officer is protected speech under the First Amendment and is not considered disorderly conduct in North Carolina or anywhere else in the United States. Courts have consistently ruled that offensive gestures toward law enforcement absent any threats of violence, do not meet the legal standard for criminal conduct. Pulling someone over solely for exercising their constitutional right to free speech is not only unlawful, it's perhaps the most unamerican act a law enforcement officer can commit. It reveals a fundamental ignorance of the very principles the US Constitution was written to protect and an alarming lack of self-control. Such conduct isn't just unprofessional. It's a clear abuse of power and a retaliatory act against protected expression. Under 42 USC section 1983, it forms solid grounds for a civil rights lawsuit for violating the First Amendment. Several more minutes pass, during which the deputy spends most of his time speaking with his supervisor on scene and over the radio. When he finally returns, he makes it clear how petty he actually is by alerting Mr. J that he intends to contact his command personnel. See if he gets back in his car. Yeah, he's coming back to me. There you go, Mr. Next time you exercise your First Amendment rights, better wave with all your fingers cuz I'm going to have a conversation with your duty officer before you get back to the base. I already got the number. Have a good day. Mr. Jay forgot to get the deputy's name or badge number, but attempted to file a complaint with the Carter County Sheriff's Office anyway. However, when he arrived, the building was closed for the day despite the early hour. A couple days later, Mr. J returned to the sheriff's office and made his way to the front desk. Thank you, sir. Um, I'm here. Uh, I was wondering where I should go if I wish to file a complaint against one of your [Music] online. Okay. County website. Um, you want to talk to somebody? I would like to talk to somebody simply because um when I was pulled over yesterday um the deputy never gave his name. I was hoping on trying to find out his name uh through I I would have suppose you know traffic that came through about disorderly conduct or something like that uh yesterday. I appreciate that. After a brief wait, Mr. Jay was invited in to speak to Major Derek Moore. I was pulled over by one of your uh sheriff's deputies yesterday. Um when he pulled me over, uh he didn't give his name. Uh I was too busy um telling him because I have a duty to inform. I was concealed carrying. I'm not concealed carrying at this time. Uh but I'm, you know, as you know, have to have a duty to inform uh to ask him initially upon contact. But um uh he pulled me over for what he thought was disorderly conduct. And uh now I'll be I'll be forthright. It's because he believed I flipped them off. Okay. Yeah. which, you know, I I'm sure, you know, there's um opinions conduct, huh, that's not just his horrible conduct. I I agree. I tried to explain that to him, but, you know, he um didn't seem a very uh convincing mood. Um but like I said, I didn't get his name or his badge number if he has one. Okay. And I was hoping on getting that and then hopefully filing a complaint against him. Uh well, you're doing that now. Uh okay. Uh let me log in yet. I had a meeting this morning. Where were you pulled over at? Major Moore gathers details of the stop and then inquires about the deputy's appearance. Describe who the Oh, he had stubble. Um I believe a mustache. Um I would consider him large and burly. Um but that's about it. I I had my wife was recording. I do have his voice. Um I did not get his face. You got the You guys recording? Yes. Mr. Jay now plays some of the audio for Major Moore, who explains the complaint process. And uh usually these complaints um and I'll show it to you. It's kind of just you write down what happened, basically what you're telling me, right? Um and then I call the deputy in here, talk to them, find out their side of it, but with what you That's all I needed was there. Yeah. Um and then we take a disciplinary action. Now, I don't tell you what the disciplinary action is. I just let you know that we've handled the situation, okay? U but I do that in writing. So I'll send you a email or a letter or something like that, okay? To let you know that it's been handled. Um again, we don't tell the public what we've done. It's just and it's not that we're trying to be secretive or anything. It's just by law we actually can't disclose what punishment we're giving them. And it could be days off without pay. It could be um a multitude of reasons. Yeah, it could be. Yeah. Um well, it'll be in the report then, I guess. What's that? Uh he he did uh ask me if I was military um because apparently in his system and I was actually not aware of this either. When he looked up my registration, it claims that I live in um which is true and um but my my registration all that stuff isn't I can understand like you know technically if I wasn't active duty then that would be illegal if I'm living in North Carolina. But you're active duty, right? I'm active duty. He didn't know that. I didn't give him my my, you know, uh active duty military card uh upon initial contact. I give my driver's license and all that. Um I mean, I wanted I wanted to I wasn't trying to be a smartass. At least I don't feel like I was trying to be a smartass, but um in the video it, you know, it shows that I was like, well, I don't answer questions. I don't want to answer any more questions, right? Because he pulled me over for something that isn't disorderly conduct. Um and so he was he was like he got pretty confrontational with that like oh well if you're not then that's illegal and you know you're going to test my patient cells and it that also came up. Is there any way you can email that video to me? Yes it's it's two videos. Uh but I I believe fairly big I'd imagine like uh this 11 minute video and then a one and a half minute video. Um so I I I did try I don't think Gmail is able to uh pass that along. Um I don't suppose um you'd be willing to uh cuz I have it on my Google Drive. Yep. Um if I think I can share it to you uh via that way. Okay. Yeah. And my email is on that card there. Oh, thank you. Major Moore exits for a moment and returns with a complaint form for Mr. J. You know, we have chosen to get in this career and we've chosen to take all the bad that comes in this career, right? you know, um, and, uh, so I do apologize if that happened. It will be taken care of. I greatly appreciate that and I I I'll leave you with this promise that, uh, again, I work extremely hard to keep my badge clean. And I don't tolerate anybody that tries to use it as a bullying machine or, you know, and I I you will never hear me say I am the law. I'm not the law. I uphold the law. It's a completely different thing. Um, I'm just as human as everybody else and uh, you know, we're all one team, one fight, you know, and uh, it's already happened, but we will absolutely rectify it and uh, I appreciate you coming in and let us know. I appreciate your uh, we won't tolerate that kind of behavior from our deputies. I really appreciate it. Well, um, I'll, uh, do this online. Um, I have your your card. So, the video ends there, but Mr. J didn't. He filed a formal written complaint against the deputy, who was later identified as Deputy Little by Major Moore based on his voice and physical description. At the time of this publication, it's unclear whether any discipline or retraining has been implemented. That said, Major Moore's response marks a rare and welcome departure from the usual wall of silence that protects misconduct in law enforcement. Incidents like this happen every day, but in most cases, filing a complaint either goes nowhere or puts the citizen in an even worse position. In our opinion, Deputy Little has no business wearing a badge. His retaliation over an act so clearly protected by the Constitution isn't just unlawful, it's cowardly, shameful, and unamerican. And thanks to the suffocating grip of police unions, it's unlikely this disgraceful behavior will cost him his certification. All we can hope is that Major Moore's leadership brings swift change to the culture beneath him, starting with the removal of those who dishonor the oath. Let me know what you think. But before you go, I've had many ask whether I intend to review the deposition recently published by Jeff Gray. I must swear that the testimony you're about to give and the following falls to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. I don't recall. This isn't some free will state, man. This how it is. And say Mississippi. Would you begin by giving us your full name? I don't recall. You don't have a middle name? I don't recall. Sergeant Joffrey, I think you know what we're here about. I don't recall. You made a statement that Mr. Gray didn't need to explain anything to you because I literally don't care. Do you remember saying that? Correct. You don't need us. You don't need to explain anything to me because I literally don't care. So, what is the crime of vacancy? I can't think of off the top of my head right now. Oh, are you aware that the statute had been repealed 5 years before you accused Mr. Gray of vagrancy? Can you get body camera videos in the state of Mississippi record? Absolutely not. We've already established that you told Mr. Gray a citizen can't get body cam footage and that's not accurate. Why did you tell us? That is not what anybody said. I don't recall. What is your department's policy on review of body cam footage? I don't recall. Don't worry. I've been working on it and others that share remarkable similarities. This has now taken a dramatic turn with the sheriff at the center of the controversy, refusing to answer questions under oath. Fox Files investigator Chris Hayes reveals the bombshell video deposition tonight. In Pike County, Missouri, family of Nathaniel Mueller continues searching for answers in Nathan's mysterious disappearance and death. The Bowling Green police chief has alleged a cover up by the sheriff's office. It is clear that the Pike County Sheriff's Office knew of the location of Mueller's body for a month prior to this discovery of his remains. Mueller disappeared this past December and was reportedly found dead in a pond February 28th. I'll go take the fifth on this one. I want to take the fifth on this one. Where was Nathaniel Mueller's body found? He took the fifth. Was Nathaniel Mueller murdered to your knowledge here? He looked to the side at his attorney, then answered, as you will predict by now. I will vote the fifth on this one. The sheriff's major, who's accused in the cover up, remains on duty. One of the few questions Sheriff Cordy did answer. Is he under investigation by you? No. [Music]