look she big mad look she big mad back there look at her ma'am i'm gonna sit here and ring this bell until you come back over here and take this paper from me you guys are mad because i'm not putting my name my signature is at the bottom just read the signature for christ's sake seriously can you stop cussing we have other people no i'm good no i'm saying stop cussing no i'm good but wait why don't you tell me okay well i'm telling you i'm good welcome back to the lackluster channel today's story features annapolis audit who visited the anne arundel county police headquarters to inquire about a complaint he had filed almost three months prior at the time he filed the complaint he was advised that a response would be issued within two weeks months later he called the department and was told that the secretary that handles those matters was on a vacation and was told to be patient annapolis audit also intended to file a freedom of information act request for body cam footage specific to the complaint he had filed after making his request an officer from internal affairs appeared in the lobby to speak with him what's up buddy what's going on uh you sent me an email like two and a half months ago saying that i would get that decision in like two weeks get what decision from the the incident where i filed the complaint with you back in 2020 and you emailed me and you said that you reviewed it and you sent it up to your superiors and it would be reviewed in about two weeks i would receive a decision it's been like two and a half months and that was the complaint for the excessive force with the cid building the detective no let me go see if i can when i called they said the lady uh they said that they could see the letter was waiting to be sent out but somebody was on vacation so it hadn't been sent out yet and then they told me that that person is entitled to paid time off so gotcha let me know let me see the letters up there all right thank you annapolis audit attempts again to turn in his foyer request to the woman at the window but she protests the submission because the request form doesn't have his name i need to turn this in apparently there was like a what's uh name next to your address oh no i'm good can you see where your name number yeah no i'm good my address is on there you go no i'm good my name's in the report okay my name's in the report that's linked to that okay i'm gonna point out her name in the report okay like most states maryland's public information act is quite complex however nowhere in the act does it require oneself to identify themselves as the requesting party the reason that's important is because the information act was designed to hold the government to some standard of transparency without allowing the agency receiving the request to gather information on citizens with an interest in holding them accountable as long as the agency has a method to deliver the requested records it shouldn't matter to them who requested it unless they plan to retaliate the receptionist receives the request and the internal affairs officer from earlier returns with a copy of the complaint report that was requested okay you want to put the proper incident number one there it's it's at 2020 043 that's not the number that's the report number okay that's what i was given well that's what i put down last time and they sent me a letter saying that they had the proper information so it gets there all right have a seat for me okay let me see what's going on all right thank you sir you appreciate it i also so i just turned in um another four-year request apparently i was requesting the video footage from this uh from the the lobby of the thing and they sent me a thing saying it was going to be like 480 to 650 and i could pay the maximum amount and they would send me a reimbursement check for the the difference if there was any um yeah i'm not requesting like all of the written stuff i simply just wanted the video file it should only cost me 40 and i guess they're trying to argue they're trying to argue that with me but it says it right here on this thing but they they they said that i need the incident number or the report number i gave it to him it was yeah 2020 043 and she said that's not it but as you can see it's right here so that 202043 that's our internal affairs case number okay that's not a police report number oh yeah so there's there's no police report because i wasn't arrested or anything this conversation continues for a number of minutes the most important takeaway is that during the time annapolis audit was waiting to be served his copies of the records he requested he was polite and frequently moved out of the way for other citizens that had arrived to conduct business i have one yeah sorry um oh he's gonna get that door for you sorry okay thank you no problem eventually the clerk returns to ask for more information and that's a way around the situation on one sector that's fine you don't it doesn't matter miss falter i'm gonna go get you that case now thank you sir ma'am uh you work for the public you gave up your right to privacy when you came out to public today unfortunately i had to get replaced so i don't care if you want your video taped or not sorry i don't want to have my rights and friends upon and i don't want to be slammed or excessive force used against me but all those things happen so i want a million dollars but i don't think anyone's going to come give me a million dollars are they y'all got 27 cameras in this building why are you uncomfortable about mine sweetheart i can video i can foil you all that video footage from where your desk is back there so why is your camera any different than mine another period of time passes and the clerk returns again to ask for his name no you don't no you don't i have the right ma'am i have a first amendment right default ma'am i have a first amendment right to petition my government for grievances i have the right to file this anonymously ma'am if you want to deny me the right to file this i will be going over the county attorney to drop off a letter of intent to sue just because you don't like the fact that i'm holding guys accountable doesn't mean you can't let me do this ma'am i'm gonna sit here and ring this bell until you come back over here and take this paper from me michelle can you tell her to do her job please can you can you tell her to do her job please michelle thank you what's up buddy yeah i don't know why she wouldn't take it she said i had to put my name on there unfortunately i don't have well fortunately for me unfortunately for you i don't have to do that i have a first amendment right to petition my government for grievances and i have a fourth amendment right not to surrender my uh not the unlawful searches and caesars i don't have to surrender my identity to follow a complaint at all i have the right to file that anonymously she can't deny me of that just because she doesn't like the fact that i'm recording her right now if you continue talking i can't i can't well i'm explaining to you i'm explaining to you man because apparently there's some sort of apparently that apparently there's some sort of like disconnect or like misconception of what it is you guys are supposed to be doing back there so i was explaining that way there's no you know uh discrepancies or there's no misunderstandings the problem description of what is looking for i gave you an incident report you have it there's two incident reports there's the internal investigation repairs internal investigation internal affairs investigation report number and also the incident report number that matthew slichesky just gave me out here two seconds ago both of them are written on there you guys are mad because i'm not putting my name my signature is at the bottom just read the signature for christ's sake seriously that's not my problem man have a great day sure you did the same thank you i have the right to file this and i'm filing it if you guys want to deny me that again i suggest you go look up us code 18 242 and 42 1983 before you try to deny me of that i'm telling you they try to make you jump through every hoop out here bro they want you to jump through hoops they make it as hard as possible annapolis audit waits for well over 30 minutes for the clerk to certify that they've received his public information act request instead the clerks send out a uniformed officer they've made it very clear multiple times that they're trying to deny me of the rights that i have i'm going to sit here and act as accordingly as i want to is this filled out the way that you need it filled out it's not the way that i need to fill it out it's not what they want hold on i just need to hear what you're saying okay we need to know who we're releasing the record okay they have it's like a chain of custody is what you're saying no okay no it's public information man name in the report well i'm sure there's multiple people in whatever report you're talking about right i follow the report but on the file right but i'm saying you're saying are you the only person listed in this police report is that what you're saying there may be one other person listed in the police report okay but the other person listed in the police report may not be entitled to request it if or if you were a juvenile like it's something either one of those it doesn't matter it does because they have to be able to check off the boxes to be sure that somebody in the report is not a juvenile to be sure that the person that's requesting it meets the there is there's legal criteria that they have to meet that's all and if you're saying we have your information why can't you why can't if you have it when i need to put it you're saying that they have it but they are they don't know that i've already fought one of these i've already fought one of them she knows who i am man they know who i am they know who i am if they're going to sit here and cry about it they know who i am but again i have i have a right to file this i do not have to give up my name or identity to file and request public information i have a fourth amendment right to unlawful searches and seizures of my identity i do not have to give that up i also have a first amendment right to public information and to file grievances and petition my government for grievances so i don't understand what the issue is at this point i'm sure that a ton of people watching are asking if they know who he is and have his information why not submit it on the form the answer is simple principles this interaction runs along the lines of given inch take a mile while annapolis audit may have nothing to lose from supplying the agency his information because they already have it someone else will have something to lose and anonymous requests for transparency hurts no one except the agency attempting to hide records nowhere in the law does it state that you must identify to receive public records and even if it did it shouldn't you and i have already paid taxes for the records to be created the only interest the government might have in preventing their release is to avoid accountability you need to let them know that 18 18 us code 242 makes it a crime to deprive me of public services they're trying to deny me of public services i am not trying to cost the taxpayers of this county or this state any more money than this police department already does they up enough and cost us enough money i am not trying to have me pay my own self out of my taxes that i pay okay i'm just trying to request public information they're making it a big deal this lady over here sitting behind her made it a big deal because i had my camera apparently she's upset that i have a camera on while you guys wear cameras you got one i don't see her throwing a fit right now there's 27 cameras in this building i can see i can request all that footage i don't see her crying because they're videotaping her but she wants to come up and try to deny me a services i already told you you need to get a life that's not professional that's not how you treat public that's not how you treat private citizens she'll run this through her supervisor and then yeah they that's fine she'll just run it through a supervisor she already did she went back there and talked to michelle and michelle cried about it said i need to put my name on there regardless i'm not putting my name i am not surrendering my rights to file for public information just because you all want me to just because generally that's how it done doesn't mean i have to do it that way okay well um they're more the expert on this so i would have to talk to them apparently they're not well i would have to see documentaries that they're what they're basing their their uh criteria on so i don't i'm not gonna protect yeah i would like to see i would like to see the piece of legislation that gives them the right to override the constitution and making me identify myself to receive public information i would love to see the legislation that says that if you can find it please bring it out here if not i want the paper filed i want it time stamped dated and a copy made and returned to me so i can go about my business some of us have to do today annapolis audit asks for a copy of his submission once again and the clerk insults him personally man can i just get a copy of my document so i can go please no i'm asking for a copy of my document so i can go about my business i don't know why you brought my mother into this woman i don't know why you're being rude to me i don't know why you're acting like a people but okay and i thought i know you're upset you could just monitor yourself like what's the choice why are you bringing up my mother i'm sorry i understand how about you behave yourself and do your own job how about you go do your goddamn job don't you bring my family into this man how about you go do your job get away from the window no you're not gonna talk to him no this leads to the dispatching of several uniformed officers of the anne arundel police department copy of my paperwork and be returned to me so i have evidence that it was turned in here so i'll be waiting 30 minutes for someone to make a copy of one single piece of paper don't understand what the issue is okay can you stop cussing we have other people no i'm good no i'm saying stop cussing no i'm good okay wait why don't you tell me to stop okay well i'm telling you i'm good have you put in your request sir and i'm telling you i'm good sir my speech is my speech sir don't you try and don't you try and restrict my speech no you're not i don't need any help from you i don't i didn't call you here i didn't ask you to come out here and speak to me you're in a public place you're right i'm in a public place you're right no i can't sir that's disorderly no it's not cussing is not it is no cohen view california in 1971 the supreme court has ruled that it's protected i'm not screaming and i'm not being disorderly no it's not disorderly conduct i can sit down here and tell you to go yourself if i want to and there's nothing you can do about it sir correct very briefly cohen v california established that an expletive while provocative if not directed towards a specific person is not disturbing the peace colony california in 1971 i didn't ask for your help okay stop cussing i don't i'm not asking for your help i'm asking you to leave me alone is what i'm asking do they help you at the window no they're not i've been waiting 30 minutes for help i explained that to you twice now no no i just came out here you haven't explained it i explained it to both of you when you walked out here that i've been waiting 30 minutes for them to make a copy of a single piece of paper the first time i've talked to you no it's not ma'am it's all on video i just sat here and told both of you and you got upset because i said that i was waiting 30 minutes for a single piece of paper annapolis audit keeps saying he's been there for 30 minutes but his gopro battery dies at this point the length of his footage indicated that he had actually been there for almost 50 minutes i am waiting for them over here to make a single copy of a piece of paper that i turned in i turn in a foil request i want it date stamped copied and returned to me so there's evidence that i turned it in like every other four-year request i do i'm not sure why this one's taking 30 minutes or what the issue is but i didn't call you out here i didn't ask for your help so you don't come out here and be like oh i'm trying to help you and don't know i didn't ask for your help man okay first of all [Music] you're coming here to asking for help because you want something i'm not coming here no i'm not asking for any help i came here and i filled out your request i'm not asking for your help i've said it four times i filled out a full year request the central records department handles that not the police not uniformed police officers so why are you out here speaking to me they're a police department okay but do you work do you go do full-year requests do you personally handle for your request and why are you out here do you yes we do do you yes we are the major in charge of this do you identify yourself please i'm major katie goodwin with the anne arundel county police number please 1133 can you identify yourselves there purple dennis human id number 1274. you want to identify yourself sir of course corporal joey gaiden's id1532 awesome let me go uniform police officers don't handle foia requests and i didn't ask for any of your help katie goodwin so i don't appreciate you coming out here and trying to respect my restrict my speech in a public place i don't appreciate any of you for your requests all the time what are you trying to find i i filled it out already well you didn't get it did you no i'm waiting for them to make a copy and give it back to me now he's back there crying about the fact that i use their curse word guess what he's guessing i'm trying to find that's fine guess what it's public lobby sir is my speech is protected my speech is protected if they don't want to hear they can walk out the door you should respect you should respect my rights because you you took an oath to uphold my rights you took an oath to serve the public and uphold my rights you should respect them sir you should respect my rights then go have them make a copy please that's what he's back there check it out then why are you out here talking to me because they said that you might need help and i didn't no they didn't say i might need help she got all butt hurt because i was videotaping her and she called you all up here to try to throw me out of a public lobby and you realize that she told me that's what i said there's 27 cameras back there so why are they crying about mine why is mine the issue sir i don't know i just got here yeah then why are you even speaking to me if you just walked out here why are you acting like you've been involved i work here i don't need your help though i stayed at the y'all multiple times i don't need any help from any of you i need them to do their job i work here that's fine so i can be wherever i want okay well just because i work at a restaurant and someone else is certainly doesn't mean i'll come up and start taking your order just because i work in that restaurant i don't know why i work here so i get to take this table and get to take your order well it's not how it works sir it's not how it works the cook doesn't come out and start taking your order just because he just you know because he felt like coming to make some money today if you sit back there and wash dishes and you sit back and wash dishes and you watch the dishes the best you can you don't come out and sit there and try to take orders from people at tables just because you work here doesn't mean you get to come out here and do someone else's job we have requested and had some issues okay yeah there's some issues i don't know why they can't make a single copy of a piece of paper there's an fbi office in annapolis officers running here like i did something wrong when in reality all you had to do was make a copy of my paperwork and i hadn't been gone 30 minutes ago it's a little bit more than that this guy it's not a little bit more than anything then why are we all here why are you here people come here all day and get paperwork so why you're right they do so why is it why is it an issue that i can't get a copy of my paperwork you're right they come here you're right they come they go find out and stop talking to me because they're working officers back there they're working on it they're looking i can see them right now they're working good they should be it's only been 30 minutes well i don't think there's a piece of paper that says how long you're going to wait or not wait when you come in here no you're right but you're sitting here saying that people come in here and do this all the time as if it's some easy process then why is it taking forever okay that's fine and all i simply asked and all i simply asked was hey ma'am and it's all on video hey ma'am can i get a copy of the paperwork so i can you need to sit down your mother be ashamed to you oh okay i didn't say that to them she said that to me why did she say that to you i have no idea sir go ask her i don't know why she says the things that come out of her mouth i don't control her body i know every single person i don't control their own professionalism i don't control their own professionalism well i i can tell you what i've worked here for 20 years but to sit here and come out or something about to see it and try to listen to me but you're going to listen to no i'm not because they're trying to solicit disorderly conduct is illegal so you can't sit here and try to solicit a disorderly conduct out of me i wasn't being disorderly at all i think if we were trying now i've got one two three four and i already had two other people out here talking i've now had six uniform officers make contact with me and i didn't call or ask for any of you all this free help you have why are you i don't want any of it i've said i don't want it then why are you here i've asked you to be away from me well we work here so that's not why am i here i've explained to somebody that then why are you here why are you here you just did sir no you just did you want you want to see it no no you just said you just said then why are you here i'll show it to you when we're done now when i'm done videotaping and continuously recording because i'm not going to have to come violate my rights i'm not going to be here that's fine then that's fine neither me i'm waiting for this paperwork and i'm alone i've been trying to leave for 30 minutes i've asked six different times on video for a copy so i can go all i've seen is you try to talk over every single person that's trying to know you've seen me ask six times for y'all to leave me alone i've told you all multiple times that i'm waiting for a single copy of a single piece of paper they're upset because i didn't write my name on it guess what i don't have to write it it's public information i have the right to follow these things anonymously gotcha this lady right here is the one that called because she's all upset because i stood up the lady that was being rude to me yeah there's no need for six of y'all to come up here and make contact with me but she did it's a waste of taxpayer dollars you're right you all could be out there to turn some real crime you all could be out there doing some real police work but instead you're here crying about a guy with a camera trying to file for your request all right so they have your paperwork awesome i'll be in touch with you once it's processed i need a copy it doesn't work that way you do the same thing yeah no i do no i get a copy i have one at home i've already done this we've submitted it it gets it it gets time stamped and copied that way i have proof of what it says ma'am they'll contact you yeah no but yeah but yeah yeah but i get proof of what it says i get a time stamp copy so i've been waiting 30 minutes for i'm not leaving without that yeah i've asked that six times you you know that because you walk i said that when you first walked out here man okay stop playing dumb he did he absolutely did multiple times in fact mccarthy a date stamped copy of my paperwork and me returned to me so i have evidence that it was turned in here i'll be waiting 30 minutes for someone to make a copy of one single piece of paper i've been waiting 30 minutes for help i explained that to you twice now no no i just came out here you haven't explained it i explained it to both of you when you walked out here i've been waiting 30 minutes for them to make a copy of a single piece of paper the first time i've talked to you no it's not ma'am it's all on video so again for the third time i am waiting for them over here to make a single copy of a piece of paper that i turned in i turn in a foia request i want it date stamped copied and returned to me okay we'll make you also sit here and review the footage because i'm gonna file i'm gonna file a complaint for your deprivation of public services 18 us code 242 ma'am 42 us code 1983 ma'am we're going to sit here and file complaints for the deprivation of public services after over an hour of bickering and heel dragging from our super professional state officials the form he was waiting for was finally turned over fill out your online form yeah they're gonna explain to you and you've got to see explain to you what the next step the process is okay i mean i've already gone through this one so i don't understand why it's being handled differently than it would have before so they're gonna explain it to you and once they explain it to you they'll be in contract yeah they tried to explain something before but okay we'll wait and see thank you very much all right but yeah i'm sorry he's on that side you can come to this side yeah and he'll talk sir you might switch the sides of me they're they're being i don't know why they want me to walk to this window instead of that one what's out a way to get absolutely or maybe make something i just want to be clear the forty dollars i'm paying is for the video footage of the lobby that's contained in that in that investigative report right right here yeah okay i don't know why that was so hard and why it's over 45 minutes and six police officers for y'all to do your job but glad we got there glad we got there today guys we did it together it's a learning experience for all of us like i told them that i charge fifty dollars per uh per public servant for educational purposes so you want me to sign this yep for educational purposes so i'll make sure i build for one two three four of you guys as well okay sorry five of you including the lady in the back as a out that window okay you all are so mad that i got that don't you man that sucks huh i removed a large portion of this interaction for time be sure to head over to annapolis audit to view the full video and let him know that i sent you as always thanks for watching if you have a video you'd like to submit for review use the link in the description or pinned comment don't forget to subscribe and hit the bell notification for future content and remember to like share and comment down below of what you think of this interaction it really helps the channel if you enjoy our content try our other channels lackluster limited for criminal psychology content and the odd side for paranormal videos shirts and other merchandise are available at the teespring store membership start at just a buck if you'd like to help further support the channel and get a slick lack logo next to your name i look forward to 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