maybe someone an officer gets pissed off and they go well i'm gonna slap you down extra tight teach me i like to think we don't do that that would make us mad these are the three best cops in america they do not torture people with torture cups oh these are torture you know it and you know it and you know it all three of you guys right now know that those handcuffs are torture immediate torture if you don't believe me let's put one on your wrist right now same tightness for everybody doesn't matter same tightness for everybody huh yes is that right same tightness for everybody why you guys want to see me here with the straight face dude come on guys are you gonna put it behind the back too so this is how we put hank chips on oh man those are not you can get a finger through over here my intention when uploading any video is for viewers to glean some shred of valuable knowledge that'll help them navigate successfully through their next encounter with the state agent even though these agents swear they're there to uphold our liberties we all know their actions betray their promises when they violate our rights and when i say navigate successfully i mean successfully securing or advancing our own individual freedom and by extension the freedom of others any freedom we currently enjoy including the illusion of freedom which that's what it is when you have psychopaths dishing out so much tyranny that freedom seldom remains static i liken the degradation or advancement of our freedoms to being in a boat as you paddle upstream as soon as you take your ore out of the water forward motion stops and the current takes you backwards well the current in this metaphor is the current of tyranny so when i see a video like this that seems to chip away at the barrier between cops and the public and appears to plant a brush fire of freedom if not in the minds of the law enforcers certainly in the minds of anyone who would watch this i like to share it now before i start i'm not unaware of the rift i and many of you have witnessed in the last couple months between many in the auditing community and chile from delete laws and i know people take issue with the term auditing community but not being sure what to call it without the possibility of offending somebody hopefully you'll understand what i'm talking about to me risks like this are unfortunate and i don't know maybe unavoidable maybe the parties on both sides of this conflict believe they're right i mean i assume they do believe the right or they wouldn't be holding to their position so firmly though i don't agree with any of the mean-spirited outright disrespect and mockery i've been seeing i'm still friends with people on both sides of this unfolding drama i'm friends with chili and i'm friends with people who seem to hate chili and don't get me wrong this isn't a woe is me i'm stuck in the middle it's not a plea for sympathy from anybody on either side even though i don't agree with how some people approach certain audits because i think it often diminishes credibility especially in the eyes of the general public who've been propagandized into believing the boys in blue can do no wrong i still think many of these audits serve as a valuable reminder of just how precious our freedoms truly are and i don't want to lose those freedoms we've got children who are going to grow up in this crazy world and i don't want to make things worse than they already are in this ongoing saga between several channels and delete laws i do see or at least i believe i see some grave misunderstandings misrepresentations and rumors being adhered to one reason for this may be that we as humans and i am talking about all of us humans can't seem to escape the vortex of being pulled this way or that by the cult of personality or the cult of group identification and acceptance the desire to be accepted by a group is so strong that sometimes it'll override objective reasoning capabilities it can and does happen to the best of us it reminds me of the ash conformity experiments which reveals the degree to which a person's own opinions are influenced by those of a group ash found that people were willing to ignore reality and give an incorrect answer in order to conform to the rest of the group and i know that some people have already made up their minds on this issue but for the sake of clarity and brevity we're being told that chile from delete laws is a fraud and that he's a dangerous criminal who has victimized people if this is true all the accusers need to do is show the proof and i've seen a lot of videos on this guys i just haven't seen the objective proof that it's going to take to convince me that these things are true who exactly was victimized monetarily or physically what was the fraudulent activity who was harmed and i realize even questioning this i myself risk being labeled as a dense trader with the mental thickness that can't even think his way out of a wet paper sack but truth fears no scrutiny and friends they're just not fair-weathered friends are loyal and somehow setting all this aside whatever you think about delete laws chile conducted what i consider to be a valuable and noteworthy audit on some muskogee police officers that i think you'll find educational and enlightening and it was done with a cordiality that i think we need to see more of so if you're still with me at this point here's the video oh you got new headgear can i see that can i see that headgear that's great that is great that's great that matter of fact i have one of those on my on my wish list i'm going to have coming out can i can i look at that is that what can i look at i'm not trying to be rude i just want to show the people you know [Music] hey i like the headgear man i really like it decisions to halo axe on body cams goes around your head that way you can see everything or you know car pursuit and stuff like that couldn't catch it all instead of being on the chat right because on your chest like this if you put your arms out in front and you're shooting we can't see what you're doing what's really but that makes it so that we can really see it this is officer cochran everybody with the uh muskogee muskogee department muskogee police department and officer wisdom with the muskogee police officer and patrolman colburn with the police department what do you guys think about changing handcuffs changing handcuffs to straps and putting them in front so that so that it's not immediate hatred because i've never heard of anything like that you've never heard anything like that but have you been in handcuffs before um i believe when i was like a teenager yeah they're not they're uh they're not comfortable you know they're they're they're the reason why i do what i do because they put me in torture cuffs and i i tell you you can do a lot of things to me you put me in those torture cups we're not friends anymore you know it all right you're just talking about doing my handcuffs you talk about something else the torture cups you have the torture cups he has the torture cups he has all of them are tortured they're actually they were actually designed for slaves to torture slaves yeah yeah and then the shorter the chain you would be able to recognize if he was a bad slave it was a really short chain and if you were a better slave you had a little longer chain you'd even be allowed to feed yourself but sometimes they would cuff it so you couldn't reach to your own mouth [Applause] [Laughter] it's all about it's about slavery yeah you can watch it you can watch it on my channel we gotta change the cuffs they got to go to a strap in front and you also got to move to a camera detainment where you come up to me and you say hey sir i got you on camera not going to touch you we got to go talk i got no weapons i'll come because you're going to tackle me right i'm going with you you know it like if you say you're coming with me i'm coming with you right that's not gonna nothing's gonna stop it if you say you're under arrest i'm going right oh yeah i'm going does everybody you just agree if you have trouble i'm shoplifting and you catch me and i got the cookies in my in my coat right and i'm going to jail you're going to take me right we need to move to a a camera detainment you're under arrest do you want to come with me i got you on camera you want to i don't agree with that no i don't want to come with you but well we got to change that of course you don't want to but here's the choice either you come with me or i throw you on the ground put you in torture cuffs what do you want to do oh i see what that students are saying so if they're cooperative right right because like me i'm i'm for law and order man i'm for rule of law so so if you tell me you're under arrest because i backed into a car and drove away and i didn't know i hit and run because that's irrestable right then i would go i have to go with you yeah okay can i can i follow you in my car do you know what i mean you don't need to impound my car you gotta go through the process of the paperwork because that's how it is yeah right because then think about it like i'm in my 40s right yeah do i want to flee but we can't know that we have a lot of buildings right well a lot of people do but look where you're taking them look where they're going they're going to they're they're going to a dungeon they're going to the worst place ever they're going to the worst place you could ever go to there's no the the worst day out here the worst day worst day i've ever had here beats the best day in the dungeon it beats it every time i've had i've i've been i've literally had people thank me for taking jail so they get some food well that's that's a different problem my friend i agree that's a different problem i agree with you know that's a different and and i'm i'm doing my best to try to have conversations i mean you're a black man you didn't know that torture cups were made for slaves now just imagine if you had if you had one big long strap and you had one and you had one and you got to take me you could wrap me at those three straps and i would be totally wrapped up like a sardine i mean oh i got you you see like there's just better ways to do it yeah yeah so so imagine imagine i'm drunk right which i don't drink they'll ask those yeah but they have like body like like wraps and like i mean it's inhumane where you're like i mean it's right so honestly i know what you're saying i know where you're coming from the only issue with that is we don't decide but you can decide that's the point it takes free men to sign up for what you guys have signed up to do and now that you're in the system you can start to say you know what i met a guy in the street i don't know if that's crazy but these are torture you know it and you know it and you know it all three of you guys right now know that those handcuffs are torture immediate torture if you don't believe me let's put one on your wrist right now not behind your back do it right now just one on your wrist just put it on right now just do it right now so i've worn them behind my back no no let me put one on you right now right here you guys got two guns with you blow my head off if i try something we're why aren't you gonna do it no why aren't you gonna do it hold on because it's torture hold on actually at here here's at police academy we go through dt right defensive tactics we get put in handcuffs we get arrested just like anyone else no you don't yes we do they don't no you don't you're not full of fear you know this guy's gonna let you out listen i got something i got something for you you can go through a reserve academy for free if you want to do a reserve dt our defensive tactics instructor i'm just go you put them on all over oklahoma you could go to any of them to say hey i just want to show up and do your guys dt party to see how it works listen yeah see how it's taught i'm i'm quite an aficionado and knowledge on your handcuffs i know quite a bit i mean i know a lot i'm saying your handcuffs just just four guys here are talking right right those are torture and if you let me put it on you not in the academy you let me put it on you like i just called your mother up right and then i put that one cup in front right here within five seconds just left this too tight right or wrong so you're so you're complaining but you yes or no no i'm asking you no i mean you're you're complaining because improperly applied handcuffs no improperly applied they are improperly applied listen someone calls you the n word and he's calling you the n word and he shoplifts how tight are those cuffs going on just like i put them on oh god same tightness for everybody doesn't matter same tightness for everybody huh yes is that right same kindness for everybody here with a straight face dude come on guys do they go on the same kindness every time obviously so listen if someone's being compliant and you're they're putting their hands behind your back and you're putting cuffs on and that's gonna be completely different when you're fighting them on the ground and they're physically resisting you right or the cuts can go on tighter maybe but that's not on purpose you're trying to get someone into custody that's fighting so maybe putting handcuffs behind people's back isn't such a necessary thing maybe if we're going to keep the torture cuffs they can go in front if they're compliant because if you try to put my harness behind my back look at my thickness dude you try to put my hands behind my back just this right here for more than a minute i'm like dude come on look look just look at how my arms none of us are saying we're against switching to a different style of cuff but let's get rid of the slave cuffs with bigger people we often put two handcuffs on two sets of handcuffs so you're not you're here instead of here you guys are in the system i'm not i'm i'm versus i'm against this system right so but here's what has to happen i we have to talk we have to communicate not a single one of you has denied that the handcuffs are torture yet are any of you denying it i don't believe that they're there let's do it i don't know the history that you're talking about so what's the definition of reports if i you're listening this guy shook my hand he put me to my knees i would not want to fight this man i would not the way he grabbed my hand i felt like a little child okay he's strong as a bull you have no idea how strong that is okay listen as strong as you are let's put it on you right now right here out front one wrist right now show the people it's not torture show the people okay so this is what i'm saying what is your definition let's show you for five minutes you got two guys with guns dude i got nothing i'm showing them i'm unarmed i got nothing i understand that put one cuff on right now for five minutes handcuffs are not comfortable they're tortured i will agree with that they're made for to torture blacks they're made to torture black people so okay let's put one on you right now for five minutes you got two guys here with guns dude right now put it on i just said how tough you are five minutes for no reason no no i want you to understand what you do when you put that on anybody and you just said oh we put them on the same tightness for everybody put a one if you believe that put it too if you don't no one's going to believe that different people get treated differently and we know that throughout the society through the history of time historically i agree with you as far as how i operate during my job i treat everybody the same yeah even even if i we're we're not saying that that's never happened yeah obviously that's happening i love these i'm fans obviously that's happened before maybe someone an officer gets pissed off and they go well i'm going to slap these on extra tight you can reach me i like to think we don't do that these are the three best cops in america they do not torture people with torture cuffs [Music] you have a torture device do you have a torch you have a torture device that's what you consider torture then then let's put it on you right now for five minutes okay so what is that right now i want you to show you that it's horrendous it's the worst pain everybody we've already had if you put the handcuffs on one hand in front of him correctly how we are taught to do it's not it's not going to hurt let me put it on cop style let me put it on cop style come on we're going around on the surface no but i'm just saying if you guys don't want to do the demo i don't want to i'm not trying you i don't have i'm in shorts and flip-flops i'm sure you're not here to challenge you gentlemen physically but if you'd like to do a demo i just said how tough you were you destroyed my hand like i was a kellogg's fried krispies my hands ruined from this man right let's put it on oh you just give me your business card i'll call you we'll do it when you're not on duty let's put it but let me put it on but let me put it put it up are you gonna put it behind the bag too so this is how we put handcuffs on i got mad respect for you i appreciate it thank you i mean i mean what's your name sir officer colbert okay with the muskogee you guys write him a review he actually just i mean i mean we didn't really do a demo but he did it he did it he did it i give you all the credit in the world but i want you guys to actually give me your business card i'll email you i'll come and let's let's really put those cuffs on hard i want you guys to understand it's totally it's terrible but i we're agreeing with you that improperly applied handcuffs are not good the way i just put those handcuffs on him is how i put handcuffs on everybody really because those look like they were on like bracelets one finger let's put one finger in there is how well you know i just explained to you that our defensive tactics instructor does the whole shebang reserve for free any civilian can do it through reserve that i was got a business card you guys got a business card give me a card he might have one i don't have any how do you guys have business cards you guys are professional police officers we got badge numbers we have that so our defense tactics instructor does defensive tactics where you'll actually have to fight somebody his size and try to i'm not fighting that guy i'm fighting chad gu i wouldn't fight him you'll have to you have no option because if we're working on the stream okay i want one email address so i can email you i'm gonna email you but you see but you see what i'm getting at right but but but but listen but they're all applied improperly that's my argument back to you if you tell me that you can put torture cuffs on me and you're not torturing me if someone could design a handcuff that's impossible to be put on the wrong way i'm i'm positive that everyone would switch to it if you put those cuffs on me you know i got bone spurs and my shoulders lifting all these years thank you sir i appreciate it do you live here in moscow oh i'm from california brother oh okay i'm traveling the country showing that this system is broken i mean because you guys don't even understand how much you hurt people with those things and just so you know whether you put them on me tight or loose within five minutes of both of my arms spin behind my back the bone spurs are digging into my ligaments and i'm tears are streaming down my face because it's just horrendous pain like horrendous you know and there's nothing i can do about it unless i get surgery and get the bone spurs removed which then you could profess shoulder uh upper you know mobility problems and stuff so i'm just saying you know i i don't love that blue line but i know we have to work together if we're gonna get anywhere and so i'm trying i respect your outlook i'm trying absolutely i appreciate it i'm trying i'm doing my best it's a human being that will come and talk to us and not just sit there and oh dude i was i was the other way before i i've realized it's not working that way yeah no it's not you you guys have the power so now we have to negotiate like mlk said in his jailhouse speech that he wrote on toilet paper you know that he wrote the letters he wrote from birmingham so thank you for your time nope no problem thank you i will reach out to you i will reach out i know i know we didn't get anywhere but i appreciate you coming over talking no no we did we showed you you're the only cop in 50 cops who's ever said just go ahead and do it and then you guys put them on like patty cake but but right and just you do your research those are for black slaves i'll look it up let me ask you a question you consider yourself a first amendment auditor i consider myself an actual activist we found out now because i'm the new leader that that a lot of first amendment auditors are just youtubers who want views and likes and comments and that's all they want the reason i ask you but am i an auditor absolutely but i'm more of an activist because i sue cops if they if they make a mistake i file federal civil rights lawsuits for a little while go ahead drag on it we've had several people that call themselves first amendment amendment auditors right that have told us we have done a very good job yeah so no listen i mean listen i'll be honest one of the best interactions i've ever had with a group of guys pulled over on the side of the road and we can have an amicable conversation and i'm trying to reach you guys i want you to do the research on slavery and cuffs because enough black guys going dude i'm putting slave cuffs on my on my own brethren pretty soon you might go why don't we go to a strap system or a camera system once you know i don't have any weapons but you guys can see i don't have any from there if i agree to go you don't got to strap me up i'll go with you i backed into someone they're claiming a claim against me so there's someone swearing by oath of affirmation my fourth amendment they have probable cause all the elements are there for me to follow the rule of law and then to go with you you don't need to cuff me or impound my car i'll follow you i'll follow you down to the courthouse if you gotta book me and give me my ticket and that's your process but impounding my car torture cuffs dungeon strip search now i'm five thousand dollars deep and i hate you and that's the divide that happens immediately whereas if we started to say look these are you have two cameras on this one this is the battery battery right just the better so but it's not changing it's not going backwards there's going to be more cameras and more cameras right am i right there's a camera on this right camera in the dash camera right i'm just saying though we got to get to where we change it i i could fight you i wouldn't you're wearing a badge you say i gotta go i'll go why don't we try that instead of sending a warrant out for me and dropping in the slot and sending the warrant team why not text me chili you got a warrant oh [ __ ] this is officer colburn do you want to come down and meet with me or do you want to find you i'm on my way to meet with you officer colbert our city for if you get a city citation they will text you just text me if i miss my court date there's no need to arrest me you f'ed up okay if you're not here tomorrow they're gonna get you okay okay okay do you see some humanity because i know you deal with jackoffs too who are on meth and on ice and i know that but hey muskogee police department facebook hit their page we appreciate the perspective i mean because like i said no one's ever brought that up to our attention so you know i mean yeah i mean so i mean we can't just go out here and be like hey man i'm not gonna put this handcuffs on if you're gonna go to jail unfortunately we still have to do that but in the front we i've actually handcuffed people in the front yeah people people that are cooperative you can put them on like they're literally they arrested me in ironton they put them on like just bracelets because i said i'm not gonna resist right and i won't i won't you know so all right all right one step at a time i'll leave delete law's links in the description and in the pin comment if you go over there and visit him and subscribe tell them here's the deal sent you leave your thoughts about this and i'll see you guys in the next video [Music]