You got that profane sound. We've had multiple calls. Oh, I'm so sorry about that. See, now that you look like a hero. Now, when they post it on Facebook, it's going to be like, "Hey, look. This cop's out there supporting this guy." I'll do it like this. That way, the sign can say whatever the people think it says. And then if they think it's offensive, then that's on them, right? Y'all drug test at your department? Have you passed one recently? What the [ __ ] bro? Welcome back to the Lackluster channel. You're probably familiar with Jeff Gray. I just called your bluff. You're full of crap. You don't know what you're talking about. Get back in your truck and give him name. Armed with a cardboard sign that reads, "God bless the homeless vets." He finds traditional public forms to spread a message of goodwill and prayers for those in need. You already screwed up multiple times. You already said I'm on private property, which I'm not. You already said I can't be here, which I can. And there's nothing you can do about it. His effort simultaneously teaches law enforcement personnel what it means to honor their oath. But but you can't be here say God bless the homeless. I mean I get it. I can and I am. But you're out here begging. There's nothing you can do about it. Do you have any ID on the show? I do. Okay. Not getting it. Let's let's take Let's take a look. Can I get my ID for constitution protected activity? Jeff's videos have exposed a failed understanding of the most basic of civil rights in rookie officers. Yeah. You can't do that. I can't. I am. No, you're not. I can and I will. There's nothing you can do about it. And with officers that for decades have violated the rights of the people they supposedly serve. Before you make a mistake and violate my civil rights, you've got one of two choices. Pay attention. Paying attention. This is my civil right. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion. Okay. Freedom of assembly on a traditional public forum. I'm not going anywhere. Have a nice night. You're attending. Uh, no sir. You're not going to dictate what goes on here in the town limits. I'm telling you something. You can listen to me now. But what if Jeff's sign wasn't one of peaceful request? No officer would stop Jeff if his sign read back the blue. Do you like this one? Can I hold this one? Okay. I can't hold this one. You said I I can. But the First Amendment wasn't created to protect pleasantries. It was meant to protect vulgar and offensive expressions. Even if less than 1% of the country agrees with the message. How about that one? Not this one. This is the one. Oh, no. This one's the This is This sign is being disorderly. You can have it. You can arrest the sign. I didn't mean to hit you. I'm sorry. Please don't shoot me. I first met Otto about 5 years ago. He's one of the most fun characters I've had the opportunity to hang out with. He has recently begun filming again. And in this video, he stood on the corner of Main Street and Main Street in Henderson, Texas. And not long after his arrival, deputies of the Rusk County Sheriff's Office approach. Nope, I'm leaving. Why not? Cuz you got profanity on your side. Am I Am I being detained right this second? Yes, you are. Oh, boy. Okay. What do you want to do? Well, I'm just trying to figure out what's going on and why you're out here. Cuz you got that profane sign. We've had multiple calls. Oh, I'm so sorry about that. You got your ID on. That guy's being disorderly. I I I uh actually I don't know if I have it on me or not, but I'm not going to give it to you. Okay. Well, you're being detained and you're Am I Am I under arrest? No, but you're required to identify yourself. Am I? Are you sure about that? Yes. Uh it's 30 It's Texas Penal Code 382. Uh uh The profained language is causing disorderly of conduct. So is it? Are you sure about that? Yeah, we got multiple causes. Are you 100% sure about that? Otto is in Texas and while their identification requirements are unique to other states in the US, the pattern of not being able to find a single officer that understands the ID law remains the same as here we still have not found one that understand the limits to their authority. Texas Penal Code 3802 clearly states that a person commits an offense if he intentionally refuses to give his name, resident's address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has lawfully arrested the person and requested the information. And currently Otto is not under arrest and his defiance confuses the deputy who now calls for a supervisor. You're going to ID yourself. Am I under arrest? You're being detained. I have to go. Okay. Well, under Texas Penal Code 38.02, I do not have to identify unless I've been lawfully arrested. Okay, that's that's not how that works. That's exactly how that's exactly how it works. I give you the Hey, look it up. Is that true? Oh, no. That's terrible. Is that about me? What' they say? [Music] Can I get back to what I was doing or am I still detained? No, you're still detained. Can I hold my sign right here while you figure it out? No, sir. Not the profane one. Not the profane one. Is that a content view and viewpoint restriction that you're uh issuing to me right now? What are you talking about? I'm talking I'm talking about what you're doing to me. I want I want to stand over here and hold my sign without you standing here, you know, saying saying things. Okay. Well, you can't. I can. Oh, yes I can. Oh, yes I can. Yes, I can. As a matter of fact, do you like this one? All right, I got my sunrise on the way. Okay, good. Do you like this one? Can I hold this one? Okay, I can't hold this one. You said I I can I'm not going to run or nothing. I'm just going to step over this metal thing so I don't fall. Can I hold this one? Okay. Um, how about this one? Sure. This one's okay, too. This one's fine. Okay. How about that one? Not this one. This is the one. Oh, no. This one's the This is This sign is being disorderly. You can have it. You can arrest the sign. I didn't mean to hit you. I'm sorry. Please don't shoot me. Please don't shoot me. How about this one? So, which one of these are you? Are you this one? Well, I don't want to put the signs down. So, if I do that, it's because you're going to order me to do so, not because I really want to. Are you going to arrest me if I don't put it down? Just hold on. Well, what are you going to do to me? That's I need to know. Okay. Okay. Can I hold the back the blue line? How about that one? This one's okay. Right. [Music] What's this guy doing? He's trying to impede my First Amendment free speech. He doesn't like my sign. Hey, you got a green light. I was Oh, no. Hey, they shot a guy last year for that. Don't do that. That was terrible. Who are you with? Oh, okay. So, technically not you, but I mean also kind of you like your department and whatnot. Uh, I don't recall that. Oh, you don't? Do they do they not tell you about it? Did you snitch on me? See that? Now that you look like a hero. Now when they post it on Facebook, it's going to be like, "Hey, look. This cop's out there supporting this guy. What if I sneak one in? What if I sneak one of these other ones in here? I'll do this one. I'll do it like this. That way the sign can say whatever the people think it says and then if they think it's offensive then that's on them, right? So I would definitely uh just me honestly me personally I would prefer to stand right here on this public sidewalk and do exactly what I've been doing without now two police officers showing up. I told you he was coming. Yeah. Well, why is he coming? Cuz you told him to. Yeah. What's that thing on your shoulder? On your uh thing right there. Hi. How's it going? Hey, buddy. Here. Here. Here. You want You want a card? Have a great day. Do y'all drug test? Yeah. Y'all drug test at your department? Have you passed one recently? What the [ __ ] bro? So, we do have city ordinances as well as state statutes for Okay, fantastic. So, as part of that, if you are in violation of one, which we are investigating because we've received three complaints about your sign. Okay. Okay. This one? No, the other one obviously the other one. The one with the profane language. Yeah. Okay. Which is a violation of our city ordinance. You are required to identify yourselves due in fact a criminal offense has occurred. a criminal offense. City ordinances are usually civil offenses where I could get a ticket or something. You could, but you could also be arrested for violation of city ordinance. Okay. Uh so you might want to make sure that the city ordinance applies to a a sidewalk. Okay. Underneath an American public. You see that flag right there? Yeah. It's a Exactly. That's why it's a public place. I'm not arguing about where you can or Well, I don't give I don't care what you're what you think you're doing. You are arguing exposed to it before it is in public. I know. That's why I'm doing it right here. Where was I? Where do you want me to do it? And you want me to go in my closet and shut the door? I don't mind that you're doing it. They don't mind that you're doing it. They just don't want the profane language. Oh, well, that's what it comes down to. Tough titty. I'm sorry that they don't like it. That's That's on them. If they don't like it, they can look away. There's a whole lot of things I don't like. I understand that. But as for being civil Yeah. I'm being I think so. Yeah. I'm going to stand right here and continue to do exactly what I was doing. Okay. You mind identifying yourself? Am I under arrest? Have I been arrested or am I simply being detained for an investigation? At this time, you are being detained for an investigation could escalate to arrest. Okay. Well, when you guys decide to arrest me, I'll tell you my name. But until then, I would like to continue standing right here and doing exactly what I've been doing. if you don't mind. [Music] So, you refuse an ID? I didn't say that. I told you. That's exactly the opposite of what I just told you. I told you until you arrested. Yes. When you're going to ID. Yes. There's a prerequisite there. That's not a refusal. If you arrest me, I will follow the law and identify once I've been lawfully arrested. Texas Penal Code 382. As dispatch, look it up. So, once you're detained, You required ID. Am I driving? It doesn't matter. It does. What you're What you're referencing is traffic code. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. How is that guy smarter than you are? You big dummy. [Music] Jesus. This guy. This guy. This guy. You know how much this lady pays each year to have you guys here? $19. Looks like she could care less. That's fine. I'm I'm standing up for her rights, too. Cuz one day she might get a little bit pissed off and want to say something that somebody might find offensive. What's that thing on your shoulder with a lightning bolt on it and the Spartan hat? Oh, that's our SWAT pin. Your SWAT pin. Your SWAT. That's probably a good thing. You handle a gun better than you did a law, didn't you? Yeah. So, so I'm going to I'm going to Do Do you want to get married for the next 3 to 5 years? What's the relevance? Well, so if you continue doing what you're doing, we will be married for the next 3 to 5 years and you will remember my name every single day. I don't particularly want to marry you, sir. So, okay. Well, then you should probably turn around and get the [ __ ] out of here. You know what I'm saying? Well, I want to hold my signs and I'm on a very limited schedule. I don't have a whole lot of time left. So, if I'm going to do what I'm doing and get my message out, then uh I need you to allow me to do so without doing violence to me. If I hold this sign, are you going to do violence to me? Would you breach the peace if I held this sign right here? No. If you're not going to breach the peace, then I'm I'm going to continue to do it. Well, right now you're still contain investigation. Okay. How long does the investigation take usually? Can I hold the sign? Hang on a couple seconds. Okay. Well, a couple seconds. You mind if I do this while Can I do this? I'm Hey, look. You haven't said no. Okay. So that's that's why I'm going to continue doing exactly what I was doing. I'm good. Okay. I'm not under arrest yet. So as long as you're okay with that, you're not doing the same. Is this a Is this Oh. Oh [ __ ] [ __ ] I got the wrong one on there. As long as No, not this one either. I mean that one a little bit. This one is a little bit. This one's a little bit right. You like that? It's funny. Objectively funny. And that's Is this one okay? What we've been getting called this one or the other one? This one? Both of them. Both of them. The ones I have for Which one do you like better? Hey, so let's ask the trooper if he likes it. Now we're going to put the signs down. Why? Put the signs down. There's a trooper. I want to show the trooper. Put the signs down. Is that a lawful order? I'm down. Is that an order? I'm down. I need you to tell me it's an order, sir. I need you to tell me, hey, it's it's a thing. If you're not if you're not ordering me to do so, then I don't want to. You see what I'm saying? I want to hold my signs right here. I would rather you not violate my rights today. I would rather you not take me to jail today. I should even get a ticket. Does your city ordinances trump the United States Constitution? Do you know what I'm I'm here standing on besides concrete? The First Amendment to the Constitution. Freedom of speech on a public sidewalk. There absolutely is. There absolutely is. I can't threaten anybody. I can't I can't uh uh like try to incite violence with another. I can't incite terror, you know, generally. But uh there's a couple of cases I can tell them to you if you want. Yeah. You want one? Cohen versus California. What does that say? It says that uh uh the simple utterance of a four-letter word can't be used as disorderly conduct because no reasonable person would be drawn to violence over that word right there. Do you know what do you know what Mr. Cohen did? He walked into a courthouse wearing a jacket and and painted on the back. Oh, this one. Well, that that that's what I'm this that's exactly what I'm talking about right here. This guy. So, if I could if I could have this sign, why can I not have this sign? Because this is saying hurrah. And this one's saying I don't like what they're up to right now. You see? Thank you, sir. I appreciate you. All right. So, obviously, we've addressed the complaint. Um, from here on, please stay out of the roadway. Don't impede traffic. Um, don't. Did you get a report that was in uh in in the roadway impeding traffic? That's why I'm just asking. So, why would you even Because I don't want to have to come back here. Okay. That's why I'm saying, do you have to tell people often not to stand in the roadway? Don't let them talk. But either way, okay, that's all I'm asking you to do is please just stay out of the roadway. Don't Uh-huh. You're SWAT. [ __ ] ain't Don't traffic hazard. Uh-huh. All right. You're SWAT, too, huh? Yes, sir. Uh, so don't don't don't. So, what what did you do wrong today? What are you doing wrong? What are you What are you about to do? To say ordinances about to get out of here. Get the [ __ ] out of here. That's exactly what you're going to do. What I told this guy to do before you got here. So now he's wasted both y'all's time. You see what I'm saying? All right. I hope you have a blessed rest of your day. Uhhuh. And you stay safe. Hey. Hey, watch out. Don't when you cross that, don't get hit by this car. Oh my god, there's a car. Oh my god. Don't shoot her. She's She meant nothing by it, sir. She meant nothing by it. She's not a threat to you. She's not a threat to you. Have a great day. So, I'm going to continue to hold my signs just like I was doing before you showed up and stopped me. How you like that? Like this one right here. Of [ __ ] the cops day. [ __ ] is [ __ ] up and stuff. [ __ ] is [ __ ] up and stuff. How about that? I had the wrong sign out. You don't lose your First Amendment rights just because someone doesn't like what you said. Vulgar expressions are still protected expressions. And in the case of Jeff Gray, peaceful expressions are still protected as well, at least for now. Now, whether they know it or not, and it's my opinion that they've never even thought about it, the officers that would enforce an ordinance against speech that is so obviously protected, are officers that would do anything to a peaceful population for nothing more than an average man's salary. And without guys like Jeff and Otto making sure the term free speech still means something, our executive branch would have relapsed into monarchy decades ago. Both Jeff and Otto's channels can be found linked below. And when you stop by, let them know I sent you. [Music]