What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? All right. Whether you're watching this live or you're watching this on the replay, I appreciate you for checking in with your boy. Time is one of the most important things that we have, so I never take it for granted that we actually able to spend some time together. What's happening, y'all? It's Friday. It's Friday. We here. We here, okay? Let's see here. Who we got in the building, man? We got Who we got? We got Wanda. Price LLM. Andrea. Okay, okay. So, yeah. Let's get to it, man. So, >> [sighs and gasps] >> I know I said I wasn't going to do another you know, another you know, one of these type of videos or whatever, but it popped up on my timeline a couple of hours ago. This thing five five hours ago, man, and I said, "Damn." This title is crazy, man. Motor, what's happening, man? I said this title is literally insane. So, we going to cover it, man. We going to cover it. Um Woo. Okay, let's get into it, man. So, we have a video by The Bloody Bunny and the title of the video. Let me see all right. Hold on. I got the chat on the wrong Okay, there we go. Yeah, so the title of the video is Uh Y'all locked in? Y'all ready to go? I hope y'all ready to go, man, cuz it's going to be one of the ones, man. Oh boy. The title of the video is Dad gives daughter STDs, hides body for 2 years, man. Title is crazy, man. All right, let's get to it, man. Damn. Okay. Let's get to it. All right. >> Hey, are you Mr. Wylie? >> Yes, sir. >> Hey, I'm so sorry. >> Police are at the house of this father after failing to find his 12-year-old daughter who went missing 8 months ago. >> Do you know of anywhere she might go? I know you said you don't know about her friends, but >> First time when we got her, she went to an abandoned apartment. >> While the child had a habit of running away, she'd always been found until now. For months, investigators would slowly uncover more and more disturbing secrets about this case. >> You can see her dad like standing on the side and he was like he was smiling. He wasn't doing anything he but smiling. And while they were searching for Lori, right? He's sitting on the side like smiling and looking around. Baby, you not going to go look for your child? >> I I thought I heard I thought that Summers told me that one of the rumors are that people were concerned Lori Paige was with a like a 27-year-old man. >> But they would eventually lead them to their worst nightmare as they desperately try to piece together who would do this to a child and why. >> You shouldn't be giggling and handcuffed while while you're being charged with your daughter's murder. You don't want everybody to see you, monster. >> [music] >> On June 3rd, 2023 in Florida, Tallahassee police got a call from Andrew Wylie saying his 12-year-old daughter had gone missing. >> Hey, are you Mr. Wylie? >> Yes, sir. >> Hey, I'm so sorry. Okay. So, do you know where she was last >> I left for work yesterday. So, like I work at night. >> So, you work at night. Okay. So, who was she hanging out with whenever she ran off? >> I don't know. I got off work. >> Who was supposed to drop her off here? So, you went to work last night and she was here? >> Yeah. >> Okay. And then when you came home, she was gone? Okay. So, what time was that? When was the last time that you actually physically saw her? >> Like 11:00. >> 11:00 p.m.? Okay. And then what time did you come home today? >> It's not 1:00 but I would pull over. >> Like it's 11:30 right now. >> I don't know. Probably like 10:00 something. >> So, like 10:00 a.m. today? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um I know Grandma, 1323 Arkansas. Um I'll I'll head over there or I'll have an officer head over there. She's not in school right now, right? >> No, she's supposed to be in the summer program. That's where she's been going. So, I'm like I signed her up for that. >> Is Is she She didn't like get on a bus or get picked up by a friend? >> Maybe she did. I don't like I don't know if I'm saying it You know what I'm saying? >> Does she have a phone? >> She's got a phone but she don't use it. >> Does she have a phone with her, though? Do you know? >> No. I should have asked her the wrong time though. >> So, she has no phone. Okay. Is she on any medications? >> I told her like I don't know. Like if she is, her mama know that stuff. >> Has she ever been addicted to any drugs, narcotics, or been the victim of any like sex crimes or anything like that? >> Uh there was some allegations with uh with some her mama father something. But that was a long time ago. >> The first thing officers try to ascertain is what Lori's family life was like. And in short, it's complicated. Currently, she's living with her dad, but as officers will soon find out, she's been all over. So, tracking her down will be no easy feat, especially given that she doesn't have a cell phone and her dad doesn't seem to know anything about where she might be. >> Do you have any scars, marks, or tattoos? Okay. Um, what kind of hair does she have? >> She's got dreads. >> She's got dreads. How long? >> Oh, man. This guy, man. You could tell he's he's he's no good. You could tell, man. Andrea said we got the whole family watching today. He said we got Roman, Rennamela, Eva. Evie? Eva? I don't know. I'm bad with names. But I appreciate you for watching. Listen, Georgia is in the building. Sandy is here. What's up? What's up? Man, this guy I am very interested to see what the mom has to say when they eventually get around to interviewing her, man. Because the dad is you know he not wrapped too tight. >> About how high? Hello? >> Uh, about to her shoulder. >> Shoulder? Okay. Do you know of anywhere she might go? I know you said you don't know about her friends, but >> First time when we got her, she went to an abandoned apartment. >> Yeah, I was there for that one. >> I never realized where I don't know. >> What about um, grandma? >> Well, you know, her um >> So, I was I was just told that I mean, she was at grandma's, but um, I just wanted to check. >> She was there. She was there. I don't I don't >> You know what? Maybe she like went to the park over here. >> No. I don't know. >> Um >> Check the park drive. >> Clearly, Andrew wasn't going to be much help for now. He also didn't seem particularly concerned about Lori's disappearance. So, for now, cops followed the standard procedure. They handed out flyers, searched places she was known to hang out at, and kept a close eye on her social media. But, as the police reports say, because Lori had run away in the past and there was no reason to believe she'd been harmed, the case moved extremely slowly. It wasn't until 16 days later when an officer met Lori's grandmother that they started to get a real picture of what was going on here. >> Um, I'm Detective >> It wasn't until 16 days later when an officer met Lori's grandmother that they started to get a picture of what was going on here. >> Damn. >> I'm Detective Drake. I'm over Lori's case. Um, so I am just trying to double-check all her locations. You know, she has been missing for a couple weeks now. Um, so one of the locations was your house because I know she's stayed here before. Um, so is she here? >> No, she's not. >> Has she been here at all? >> Yeah. I mean, she's been here but not this time. >> Right, not in the past like two and a half months. Got you. >> And just like I told the last couple of officers, last three officers, she is not here and I am not going to I know I believe that she knows that if she shows up here, I believe in accountability. I've already told the last three officers if she shows up here, I'm going to bring her back her to you guys. >> Right. And then you guys can take her back to her dad. So, she ran away like three or four times while she was up there, right? >> It was out in Nashville? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, Nashville doesn't contribute to a database that we use. So, I need to call [music] them directly to get that information. Do you know like about how long was the longest time she was gone while she was in Nashville? >> Um, it was a Gee, weeks. >> That would be kind of telling you. >> Um, again, this was a time that she she wasn't really communicating with me and then uh Lori's mom. >> Mhm. >> And then I guess she met her with Sam and she wound up calling me saying, "Hey, can you get her >> Mhm. >> for the summer?" And this is during the time of COVID, so I asked, "Hey, can I work remotely?" >> Mhm. >> Cuz I had like an essential job, somebody had to be there. >> Right. >> And they let me work from home while she was here. And at that time, she just stayed for the 3 weeks, but it was before she came >> Mhm. >> where I started asking Miranda some questions, and I'm just going to tell you, I don't know how far it was me she was, but as far as I knew, she'd only been gone like a day. >> Okay. >> Right? And from what I understand, I can't trust anything Miranda says in the book, but what I understand, she had put her in two different facilities. >> Mhm. >> Because when she came down here, where here, they put her on two medications. >> Okay. What kind of medications? [clears throat] >> For anxiety, and I don't remember what the other one was for. >> But no life-threatening illnesses, it was more like >> We don't know. >> insulin or or >> Oh, no, no, no, the medications were just like for for anxiety, and she had an episode when she was here for that 3 weeks. On the first night, she just got up in the middle of the night, and I could see something kind of, I don't know, shut off or clicked on or something, I don't know. And she kind of ran headfirst like a little bull into me and charged into me >> Okay. >> into my stomach and knocked me down, and she ran out of the house. It's like 2:30, 3:00 in the morning. >> Mhm. >> And she dashed out of the house, and she went this way, and she running down the house down the street in the middle of the night. >> Mhm. >> Saying, "This is not my mom. She's kidnapped me." And I had one car stopping, like, "Is everything okay? Do I need to call the police?" And I'm like, "She's just having an episode, you know, my mom's having problems with her medication or that." >> Is it like bipolar or is it >> She's not been diagnosed with that as far as I'm concerned as far as I know, it was just anxiety issues, and I know that all of this started happening when Lori when Miranda temporarily lost custody of Lori, and her personality just changed. I mean, she was a different kid. >> While this does answer a lot of questions about what might have happened to Lori, it also complicates things massively. Her family relations will prove to be extremely pertinent to this case, but at the moment, the officer is mostly worried about just how unpredictable Lori seems to be. If Lori had one of her episodes the night she went missing, there could be no telling where she disappeared to. >> Yeah, but we know something's not right because something's definitely not right because the the most amount of time she's been gone before is a day. So, it's you know, if they would have said, you know, she's been gone a week or something like that, then I'm like, all right, I can maybe see, you know. But, the most amount of time she's been gone, yeah, she's run away a couple times, but the the longest amount of time she's been gone is a day. Something's not right. >> And Lori is really good at spinning lies. Like, I've never seen anything like it before. I told this story all the time to my family. When she was 2 years old, when kids is supposed to have an attention span of a minute. She would try to gaslight you for 2 weeks on a story. But, and you knew it was a lie cuz you saw her and it was just a little thing at the time. I didn't do that and then she just spin the story get bigger and bigger. Well, time progressed and you know, I guess my daughter showed up around to different people, what have you. That's going to affect a kid number one. And I'm like, figure this out. Do what you got to do. And so, one of the times, um, she stayed with my dad. And because of how she kind of came up, Lori's always been used to sleeping in a room with someone. Excuse me, I don't know. Pardon me. I know that she [clears throat] would not be afraid of the dark. So, when I transferred my job down to Tampa, to help Miranda out, we we actually [clears throat] stayed in the same room, Miranda and I. We had uh two single beds in there. And if I would wake up or get out of bed in the middle of the night or whatever, it was like she could sense something, which is kind of a giveaway. Like, I'm in here by myself. >> Right. >> And I tried to tell Miranda when she was a year, year and a half, it's time to start weaning her off of that, let her sleep in her own room. But because Miranda needed some of that contact, too, she let it kind of go on. >> Right. >> So, she would knock on my dad's and his wife's bedroom door. And he's like, "No, Lori, you can't come in here. You need to go back." And his wife would put her back in the bed. Well, then she had night terrors or that's when Miranda first dealt with them. Because Lori has the ability to hold on to vengeance, I guess is the best way to put it. She has a tendency to hold on to that kind of stuff, but she also still has the mind of a child. >> Right. >> Well, she went to daycare, she played all day long, you know, had a good time, and then at the end of the day, when it was time for her to be picked up, she remembered, "Oh gosh, I'm going to have to be in the room by myself." >> Mhm. >> And she's going to lie on my dad, which caused him to be arrested. >> Ugh. >> And because she can hold on to a thing for a while, and it was bringing her greater and greater attention, it kind of taught her that this is all I need to do to get the attention that I need. >> But if disappearing like this was just supposed to be an attention grab, you'd assume that she would have shown up again after a couple of days at most. But even after searches of local apartments, her friends' houses, her grandmother's place, her school, and quote, "every hotel in the city," she was nowhere to be found. They quickly followed up on any alleged sighting of her, but always came up short. They knew they had to change their strategy, so they turned their attention back to her complicated family life. And what they found began to break the case open one step at a time. Everyone who saw how Lori's mom, Miranda, raised her had similar things to say. She was 17 when she had Lori, and 6 months into the pregnancy, she asked for an abortion. Even after Lori was born, Miranda still wanted to hang out and party with her friends all the time, which led to her leaving Lori with all different kinds of people. By the time she was 12, she had lived with her mom, dad, grandma, paternal grandma, godmother, Miranda's ex-fiance, an uncle, and even Florida's Department of Children and Families. In fact, that was where the police headed next to talk with a social worker to see if she might be able to help them find any semblance of a lead. >> So, she >> This is sad. Kid People don't ask to be here. They, you know, You didn't None of you guys asked to be here, right? Your parents brought you here, right? They were doing the you you know, the you know what and brought you here, okay? And for you not to be responsible enough to want to take care of your responsibilities, age is not an excuse. You know what I mean? 17 17 not that different than 18, right? And at 18, you're an adult, okay? So, you're grown enough to do the the woohoo woohoo, you know? You should be grown enough to take care of your responsibilities. 6 months into it, you're going to ask for an 6 months? 6 out of the 9 months? Now you want you want to abort? This is This is This ain't right. This is not right. That's what happens when you have a child young. You you give up you know, you're you're you know, you give up that part of your life, you know, it's over. It's over. We going to have to catch you on the rebound maybe when you cuz you had a kid that young, you know, so now when you probably about 40, 45 or so you know, 40s something like we going to have to catch you on the back end. We can't hang out with you, you know, in your younger years 18, 19, 20, 21 through 26 or so, 27. No, we going to have to catch you in your 40s. That's when you could go back out and start partying again cuz you got responsibilities, man. And um it's not up to other people to take care of your responsibilities. It the burden shouldn't be on grandmas and grandpas and uncles and aunts and all of that. They wasn't a part of you laying down and doing doing what you was doing to create the baby. Oh boy, this is this ain't good. >> had gone to Hattie Cotton. So, she had gone to um two elementary schools in third grade. And then fourth grade she went to Gullah Swirl Elementary and then fifth grade up to GMS. So, she was here for about three years >> Uh-huh. >> um before she moved back with dad. And then I I will say like she she was very resistant to meeting with me. She did not want to meet with me. She did not want to talk with me or um it was very difficult um to try to even build a relationship just to rapport. >> [clears throat] >> Um she kind of avoided me. She was very guarded and disengaged in sessions. Um she made it very very well known that she did not want to talk to me or participate and she did have a very kind of a more pessimistic outlook on life. It was always a negative. It was always something negative. She gave to I usually do with the students I see initially is ask them like on a scale of 0 to 10, 10 or you know, 0 being bad, 10 being good, what scale do you give school, what number do you give home, what number do you give life. She gave life a -20. >> Okay. >> Um I asked her, well, let's at least try to get up to a baseline, like zero. What would that day kind of look like, you know? And she said having pancakes in the morning. A positive three or four would be being able to watch Attack on the Titans and getting on her phone whenever she wanted. >> Mhm. >> Um she doesn't She said that she'd never felt loved by anybody and she doesn't feel loved currently. >> Lori's dad, Andrew, was 20 when she was born. And given he also seemed to have other priorities at that age, Lori began to feel neglected. And as she said, never felt loved. It's no wonder she began to feel starved for attention and acted out in order to feel seen. Just listen to what her old teachers had to say when officers spoke to them a few days earlier. >> Even if you're telling us stuff we already know. >> Yeah. >> Just to kind of put you at ease about that, too, um he's not necessarily a bad guy. >> No, yeah. He knew Lori. >> It was kind of a >> Yeah, he was only in Tallahassee or she was only in Tallahassee for about a year. >> Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, so it's kind of just like, oh, I didn't know I had a kid in here. >> He He knew that. >> She knew that. >> But she was not in Tallahassee. >> Okay. So not really like attached >> They didn't spend a lot of quality time with her. >> dropped her off to him. >> Okay. >> And then for to spend time for the summer. >> And then >> And then didn't come back, so he had to struggle to get her enrolled. >> And he had to ask around which school. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, she must have felt like she was just thrown away. Like garbage. >> She I mean, there was definitely, you know, some She was like a sad-ish kid, but she also was like pretty well-adjusted. >> Yeah, someone said she really was eager to please. >> It seems that as a result of the neglect she felt, she began to cling to any adult who gave her even a shred of attention and was desperate to please them. A combination that's unfortunately easy to exploit as her teacher was quick to point out. >> Um okay, so I was looking at her Reddit username and when I had searched for her page and I saw a post that you made on um I saw your post and one of the one of your sub comments you mentioned that she was you heard a rumor that she was being groomed by a 20-year-old man. >> Yeah. >> I have never heard this rumor. No one brought this to my attention. So, where did you hear it? What is it? What's going on? >> [clears throat] >> Where where did that information come from is kind of what we're curious about. >> It was a while ago, so I have to think. She um I thought she said >> It was a while ago, so you got to think. What? There ain't that many kids you coming in contact with that you think are being groomed by 20-year-olds. I you better get your thoughts together. Snap it. Get it right. >> that or that like that she said Lori's mom or someone was concerned that she was being groomed by an older man. I think if a student told me I would have known that. I really felt like Miss Summers told me. I thought I heard from Miss Summers. Just that there is like an older >> that she that she associates with an older man and that she might be with him. If I didn't hear from Miss Summers, I might have heard from Mr. Stokey. I'm actually supposed to be meeting with him right now. Do you want to walk down there? >> Yeah, let's do it. >> Um cuz I'm not just going to make that up out of my >> This could be a serious development, so the cops immediately got the teacher to call Mr. Stokey to see if he knew anything else. >> Hey Stoke, let me ask you a question. Um I have some TPD detectives here. Um long story short, I I thought I heard I thought Miss Summers told me that one of the rumors are that people were concerned Lori Page was with a like a 27-year-old man. >> So, she had like a history of kind of like having crushes on the some of the other male teachers. Um, so like that is that rumor is something that could be like I wouldn't be surprised that she would be like a candidate to be groomed by somebody because she was, you know, likely to to look up to like male figures in that way. You know what I mean? >> Any teachers in particular? >> Um, no, well, the one that she had like had a big crush on immediately sent her to guidance, Mr. George, but he doesn't work here anymore. He's at Deer Lake. >> Mr. George Mr. George, oh. >> Yeah. He Yeah, it was like pretty much immediately he sent her to guidance. He's like, "Yeah, this is a problem, kid." >> That's um That's Nathan George. >> Is there a like a Would there be any kind of documentation for that or any kind of like behavior report >> the social worker, Miss Glenn, might have documentation of seeing her, I think, about that specific thing. Um but yeah. I mean, it was like I feel like she was like kind of joking when she would say it, but if there's a rumor that she was being groomed by somebody or something, then I mean, I that does seem like it would be important information. >> The unfortunate thing is that, at least for now, all of this was just a rumor. The only truth that the cops seem to have was that Lori, quite simply, wasn't happy with how things were. Often, she would text herself and write disturbing stuff in her journal. She would say things like, "What if I was never born? Maybe I wouldn't be a burden." And, according to her social worker, it had gotten even darker at some points. >> She was hospitalized at Vanderbilt for a suicidal attempt in the summer of 2020. >> Did they give any detail on that? >> I don't have any information about that. We're unless we're given like a release, you know, of information or if like she was being tested or anything like that. >> Well, I was just curious if mom or her told you about it. >> Mom told me. >> Okay. >> This all this information's coming from mom. >> Okay. >> Lori clearly had problems for a lot of her life, but it was starting to seem that there was a moment when things snapped and escalated. In 2022, Miranda dropped Lori off at her dad's place for the summer holiday, but when it was time to pick her up, Miranda called saying she couldn't. She had told Lori it was just going to be a holiday visit, but in reality, she had gotten an eviction notice because she couldn't afford to pay her rent. Lori had previously lived with her dad when she was five and Andrew had told the police stories of how Lori enjoyed living with him. But for people who really knew Lori, people like her grandmother, that was when everything changed. Remember what she said to police earlier. >> All of this started happening when Lori when Miranda temporarily lost custody of Lori and her personality just changed. I mean, she was a different kid. She was much different than what she is now. >> And that was in Nashville? >> No, that was when she was in Tampa. >> Oh, okay. >> This was eerie. The mixture of her personality changing, her disappearance, and her dad's apparent lack of care for the whole thing. For all the lack of information the police had about this case, a picture was starting to be painted and it all became clearer as police started to interview Lori's friends at school. In fact, it was these interviews that would prove to be the breakthrough. >> Okay. How do you know Lori? >> Because we had a class together. >> Okay. Did y'all hang out any outside of school? >> Not really. >> No, just at school? Did you hang out with her much at school? >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> I kind of sat with her sometimes when she was like what they say, and when she was upset and she was okay. >> Okay. And she ever tell you why she was sad? >> What? She was sad because she was she was she was scared to go home because she had got her parents called and I was just telling her just go home because she was telling me that she was going to run away, but I never thought that that would happen. I would say the same thing. >> Okay. Just so you said she was scared to go home cuz she got her parents called or like she got in trouble at school? >> Mhm. >> Okay. Did she ever tell you anything about other than like her being scared to go home, did she ever tell you about anything bad going on with her at home? >> She would say she'll get abused. >> Did she say how? No? Did you ever see her with like bruises or cuts or scrapes or anything? >> Mhm. >> Okay. Where would those normally be? Yeah. >> Sometimes she'd have them on her elbows, like knees. >> Okay. Did it look like it was >> she'd have busted lips. >> Okay. Did she tell you how she got those? >> No. >> No? >> I never asked. >> Okay. Whenever she >> See, cuz elbows and knees, that could be, you know, you playing around, you fall or whatever. Uh you know, but a busted lip? I don't know about that one. I don't know about that one, man. I don't know. Yeah, this ain't this >> [gasps] >> Oh boy. It's it's crazy how like how kids how kids be talking and stuff like that. Like the girl, she said she just that man, yeah, she said she was going to run away, but I didn't really think she was going to do it cuz I say things like that, too. I don't know as a kid if I ever said I'm going to run away. I don't think that ever really crossed my mind, but you know, I you know, I don't I don't know. But damn, it's just crazy how kids be talking like that, man. What's going on all the the newcomers that came in real quick? >> [snorts] >> You know, see a couple mems, Casey, you know, yeah, man. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. >> She have those, but it seemed like she was sad at those times. >> When she ran away that time, she went through your apartment complex. Did she tell you why she ran away? >> Yeah, when we were walking, I was just like, "What are you doing?" She said that >> [laughter] >> she was arguing with her dad. So, she was arguing with her dad. I don't know if he She said she did. >> I got zero. >> He threatened to hit her. I don't know how she was on I don't really know. All I know is that she dropped her backpack. They were probably arguing at the door, then she ran away. But after that, one night, after it, like then her dad sent her off the bus stop. >> Did it look like she was hit at all? >> Yeah, when she first like when she first came to the school, she had a bruise on her lip, and she wouldn't really talk a lot. But then after a while, her mom and she's really friendly, so she opened up to all of us. >> Did she ever mention anything about that? >> Mhm. >> Um so, did she mention anything else about what happened when she came to to stay at your house? >> She mostly said like cuz I would always ask her like, "Why would you do that? You know, you're going to get in trouble sometimes. You're going to get whooped." I got whooped myself, but like it was for doing dumb stuff like stealing or something like that. But then she said like it was like it was over doing it. Like it would bruise on her for a while. And that's mostly what she was saying. Like he would he would hit her a lot. She would get bruises and stuff, and then that's why she ran away. >> Our parents used to get us together when we was kids, They they? They you said what? You do something wrong, they go like what?" "Well, my mama get you together, boy." Oh. But yeah, you know, that's just regular kids stuff. There's a difference between a little, you know, a little whooping and then like being real abused, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I get it nowadays, man, you you you know, you you blow on a kid and and and you can't you go like that and they >> [screaming] >> you know, it's like these kids is built different. But yeah, you know, back in the day, [ __ ] get you together, you know. >> [laughter] >> You said what? You said what? Come fly out your mouth. What? Get you right. >> [laughter] >> But, you know, that's a part that's a part of growing up, but not not stuff like this this is Yeah, it's this look like it's it's not really discipline, it's turning into, you know, abuse. This No. >> about Lori. Okay, so basically last year, I know she had snuck out to somebody house. >> Okay. >> And then after that, her dad came to the um to the bus stop and whooped her in front of everybody. She was embarrassed. >> Okay. >> And she was basically saying that she was getting abused and stuff. She said she couldn't take it no more. She was going to run away from home. >> She ran How many times has she run away? >> I think like two or three. >> Two or three. Which time was it the dad came or went to the bus stop? >> Like the second time. >> The second time? What bus stop was it? >> [snorts] >> The the college bus stop over there about Ocala and Continental. >> Okay. When you say that he whooped her at the bus stop, what does that mean? >> Like he hit her with a belt. >> He had a belt? Did he have it on? Did he have it already in his hand or >> Already in his hand walking up. >> Already in his hand? What was he saying? >> I don't know cuz they were over there but they were far but you could still see them. >> Now, you said that she said that she couldn't take it no more when she was at home. When did she tell you that? >> [snorts] >> At the bus stop one time. >> Okay. How recently >> to everybody. >> She's talking to everybody. How recently was that? >> Like last year, but they just now saying something about it. >> She's now saying something. Okay. Was this before she went missing for the last time? Like this time that she's missing. Okay. Do you remember what month it was? Do you know if it was the beginning of school year, middle of school year, end of school year? [music] >> Kind of towards the middle, I think. >> Towards the middle? Okay. What did she say? >> She said all this abuse and stuff, she can't take it no more, and that was it. >> Okay. Did she say how she was being abused? Okay. Did she say who was abusing her? >> No. >> For Lori, it was getting too much to take. She had done the only thing she knew how to do, run away. The thing is, she always came back. But by the time the cops had conducted interviews with everyone they could and searched everywhere that had even been mentioned in passing, it had been 8 months. It was obvious at this point. Lori hadn't just gone missing. There was a darker truth yet to be discovered, and Lori's closest friend had just made it a lot more likely. >> She was like She was like very quiet and she didn't say nothing very much. But she always used to talk to me and my friend Peyton. But she like She used to tell us stuff about her dad and her family, but she never like I kept telling her like, "Go tell somebody that you're not telling anybody. Running away is not going to solve it. You're not telling nobody." So like we was like we was like very close. And then when I heard she went away, I thought she went to her friend's house cuz that's where she went last time. But she didn't go there cuz they couldn't find her there. So she just left like she just vanished. much. >> What was the What was the stuff that she was telling you about her dad and her family? >> Like she said her dad like don't feed her and her dad like used to touch her and stuff. So I told her like you need to go tell somebody. Like you can't just sit there and let it happen because it's going to keep bottling up and one day you're not going to take it anymore. You're going to end up doing something that you don't want to do. So I told her like you need to go tell somebody or else it's just going to keep happening. And when I told when I found out she went missing, I'm like well y'all need to go check her friend's house. Maybe like she'll be over there. And then [snorts] it like she wasn't there and her friend said they haven't seen her either. So I was panicking. Like I literally left my house to go look for her. >> Mhm. >> You know how long I walked? How long I had to get to her friend's house? >> That's a long way. >> I walked from my house to her friend's house just to look for her and she wasn't even there. Like I was panicking so bad. Cuz like I was I was thinking like what if she got kidnapped or something? But like I tried to think positive even though she been gone for like almost a year. It's a new year. >> Yeah. >> She been gone since 2023. This is a new year. >> That's a long time. >> I was trying to well like I kept trying to get her to tell somebody and she's like she's like no, I don't want to tell anybody. But yeah. >> Did she ever tell you why she wouldn't tell? Like what she thought would happen if she did tell somebody about all that? What what was she thinking? >> She told me that her dad was going to kill her. >> Think back to the very beginning of this case when Andrew reported Lori missing. He barely seemed concerned. He barely provided any information and since then he hadn't once followed up with the investigation. At that time the belief was that this might have just been his way of dealing with the situation. But now it seemed suspicious. >> And bro, like the one thing when you if you if you go to look on the news and you you see the video that some of us was in, you can see her you can see her dad like standing on the side and he was like he was smiling. >> [snorts] >> He wasn't doing anything. He was smiling. Like he was looking like and he was looking around while they was over there while they was searching for Lori, right? He sitting on the side like smiling and looking around. Baby, you not going to look for your child? Something's wrong with you. Like >> [laughter] >> I don't I ain't going to say that cuz you like you like put me in handcuffs but like >> No. >> I like square up with him [laughter] because like you literally sitting on the camera and you're smiling. You're not Well, all the other people from our school from here are looking for your child and you're smiling. What What are you smiling for? >> So, yeah. Trust me, I get you. I get you on the frustration on that. >> And this is why like if I see her dad again, he's done with me because I'm really going to beat him up. >> I might have to get guys in there, right? >> We had like put up flyer thing over in her neighborhood or whatever and then I had like talked to her dad about it and like I don't I mean honestly you could probably talk to him but like he just like didn't seem to care what I was talking >> I would assume that Georgia [clears throat] I would assume the child's probably like 13-ish. Thirt- Yeah, probably around 13. Cuz the girl went missing at 12 and this is a year later. So, I would assume somewhere around 13, 14, something like that. >> I was telling him about it. It was like your kid's been missing I think it was like 22 days at that point. Did you figure out what had happened? And he just kind of like really just like didn't look me in the eye. It was just >> Who was that? >> Her dad. >> Oh. >> Like it was just weird. You know, I was like I don't know. Like my experience as a teacher like I was only first year teacher at that time but it's still just like I don't know. Like if your kid's been missing for 23 days and you interact with pop culture at all, like you know, like you should be scared or like something. >> At this point, there was enough evidence pointing toward a very dark conclusion to this case. So, the case was turned over to homicide. >> So, here's here's why we're here. Um it's been 6 months since she walked out of your house with a bag and nothing else. Um she's 12 years old and she hasn't been heard from in 6 months. Me and him were part of the homicide unit. I'm not telling you anything happened to her, but it's gotten to the point now where probabilities are are not in our favor. Yeah, and that's why we're here. So, you know, we kind of wanted to get our own perspective of everything. That's why we're asking you these questions again. Me and him don't believe you had anything to do with it. You you did not kill her, right? >> No. >> Right. You would not You would not want to touch your daughter. >> No. >> Okay. >> But, even at this point, the detectives still had no idea just how horrifying the truth really was. The first thing they did was pay a visit to Lori's mom, but talking to Miranda wasn't going to be easy. You see, since the beginning of the case, Miranda and the police hadn't exactly seen eye to eye. Miranda thought she was being treated unfairly, while the police thought she was messing up the case by constantly posting on Facebook. So, this wasn't going to be a normal visit. >> Miranda. My name's Nick Roberts, I'm a detective from Tallahassee. We're here about Lori. Can you come to the door and talk to us? Hey, Jerry. Are you Miranda? Did you holler Jerry? >> I'm on the phone. >> Do you mind if we talk to you for a second? >> This is not my family's business. >> Okay. >> Um do you mind? >> Just stopping by and talking to her. She just wants to talk. >> Okay, I'm done. >> Let me put on some >> Absolutely. >> [laughter] >> Hey Miranda. We came here to talk to people at her school where she attended here. >> Okay. >> Um we're just doing everything we can to try to get a feel for who she was and what might have happened or she might be. >> She I mean y'all know the scenario and then she's likely no longer with us. Honestly speaking, y'all knew this. Y'all investigate this. You know how this goes. >> That's possible. >> It's likely. >> It is it is likely. >> And you Y'all are treating me and then my sister my problem with this something to air out all my grievances and >> Okay. Yeah, go ahead. >> Y'all are treating me like a [ __ ] criminal like I did something. She was not in my care when all this went down. I'm dealing with the loss of my child. >> I know. >> And the gross negligence of the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department. >> Yeah. >> The disgusting negligence of the department >> Yeah. >> cost them could have potentially cost me the life of my child. I know y'all banging on my door. >> Man, you ain't care about that child to begin with, man. You you ain't been taking care of the child. You dumping it off with a whole bunch of other people. You want to sit out there and party and drink as if you You know what I mean? Like you We not trying to hear that. What's up, Tracy? Yeah, we not trying to hear that. We not trying to hear that, man. Oh, yeah. The negligence of the police department and you guys are treating me like a criminal and blah blah blah and I possibly I lost my child and it's all your fault. Well, maybe if you was a parent and stepped up to the plate, this wouldn't have happened. You have a child. The child is your responsibility. It's not everybody else's responsibility. You dumping the child off at everybody else and you know, now all of a sudden the dad has take the child. You know, and don't get me wrong. This This many dads out there that would love to have their child. You know what I mean? That That can't. You know what I mean? But they would love to have their child live with them. But unfortunately, you got with the wrong guy and this guy is a monster. So you decided to lay on your back with a monster. This guy is This is the guy you chose. Like Oh, man. I don't like how she's spinning it. I don't like how she's spinning it, man. Because if she stepped up to the plate, this wouldn't be happening, man. There's plenty of people that have kids at a younger age, 17, whatever, and they got to step up to the plate, man. They going to school. They going to work. They doing what they got to do. You know what I'm saying? With or without the support of family. And it seems like she did have support from her family. It's just that it became a little bit too much for people at times. >> 8 9 months later, asking me for my DNA. >> Oh, oh, we'll take all of that. Okay. Um they put brand new detectives on the case. >> It's too late. >> I hope it isn't, but it could be. >> Because if I'm moving the child, if you I mean y'all know how to do it. This is not If I'm moving the child, I'm going to move the child in 8 months. I'm not going to wait for y'all to run down the house. We don't We don't think the child is the child. >> I'm not sitting with anybody that did because there's an adult that has to be an adult involved. She can't sustain herself as long. So whatever like thinking like in their pattern, if I know that I have a child that the police were looking for, I'm not going to just going to hold them. I'm going to move them. I'm going to hide them. I'm going to >> Right. Well, if if you're thinking on the lines of placing the blame on us, then >> Not the blame I'm not placing the blame on y'all. I'm how y'all handled it it was It was very >> Okay. Well, if if if that's the case, then if it were me, I would want to say that they came to my house multiple times. They asked her for all these things multiple times. I complied in every way they asked. And when when when all that comes to light, then you can can be on the on the right side of this. >> You can investigate every I'm on the right side of this thing. I don't have to >> Like there's there's >> I don't but I'm not in town. I don't have to collaborate with y'all. I don't trust y'all. >> Okay. Okay. >> Indeed, this was going to prove more complicated than the officers had hoped. But regardless, they pressed on hoping to try and get anything useful out of her whatsoever. >> Um I'd have to ask your opinion. Could her father have done anything to her while we have? >> I can't speak on that as a fact and say cuz I don't know. I don't think that he would have cuz I don't >> That's why I'm asking. Do you Do you feel that's important to us? >> She's been down there like for summer or since Christmas. So, I don't think that he would hurt her. I really hope he wouldn't. And nothing happened while >> She was down there? No allegations of even any kind of abuse at all? Nothing like that? >> Not that I am aware of. But I don't He didn't talk to me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, but that means you're not active in the child's life because how does how does her friends know and people at school and things like that know about busted lips and scrapes on the knees and being whooped with a belt and all of that, but you as the mom, you don't know. That mean you're not You're You're You're detached. You You You're not even checking in on your kid, man. >> Okay. I get it. >> I I mean I'm not going to say like he didn't, but I I don't >> Yeah. >> I hope he wouldn't hurt her. >> And we we have no evidence that he did. I mean >> She She would ask her, "Why don't you call?" And they're like, "You don't like" Basically, it looked to her like I don't try to reach out to her. like I don't care. >> Because you weren't able to get through to her. >> Because I wasn't able to get through to her. >> So you had to So you had to look up the school's number, find out what class she was in, and then they had to transfer you to that class to be able to talk to your daughter? >> Okay. >> Yeah, I'd be upset, too. >> You want to thank us for us. And again, like you said, your guy is Andrew Didman. Um do anything. Whoops. So we have to explore that option. We'd be stupid not to. We wouldn't be doing right by Lori. >> We wouldn't be doing right by you. >> So while we're looking at all these other sightings and everything else, we have to look at Andrew, um unfortunately. So Jerry interviewed Andrew. Um Andrew comes comes across as, you know, a caring guy. But anybody can present themselves as caring. >> Oh, yeah. >> Cuz we don't know him. >> I I'd be honest. I I'd be lying if I said I hadn't been fooled before. I've been a detective long enough to have been fooled before. You know what I mean? It's It's People can get away with lying to us. >> Yeah, women lie to me all the time. At at work, I mean. >> I don't know if my wife lies to me sometimes, too. >> What I'm getting at is like the the any voicemails, the video footage we were talking about, text messages, the verbiage that he uses when he's talking to you is the real Andrew. You know what I mean? So if he's saying mean things to you, then he's >> I think he's extremely dishonest with Lori. >> Yeah, you know what I mean? That's you know, >> That's That's kind of what we're after. >> And and it it does two things. One, it it paints anybody close to Lori in the appropriate light. So if Andrew tells us that, you know, Maurice is a you're you're a horrible mother, or whatever, that that's his perspective, and it's not the most accurate light. >> He's biased, you know. He doesn't have the best relationship with you. >> He's nice and cordial with us, but not with you. So there are gaps in in perspective that that we need to fill and get a better understanding of him make sure that there's no chance he's involved. And honestly, that goes for you, too. But, you know, which is one of the reasons we came to talk to you. >> After talking to Miranda, suspicion only grew around Andrew, but they still didn't have any physical evidence he was behind her disappearance. He had been neglectful, he had physically abused her, and potentially even worse. But, what really happened that night she disappeared? The police wanted to clarify the confusion they had about him, so they wanted to have another chat with him in an interrogation room. And this time, they had a plan. >> I mean, obviously, she ran away cuz I guess she had gotten in trouble again. That's why she ran away the the other time. So, >> And Don't Don't think Don't think any way about this at all. All right? I have to ask these questions. I would I've asked everybody these questions. Do you know where Laura is now? >> No, I do not. >> Okay. >> No, I do not. And if I did, child, I don't >> You're lying. You can't look in the You can't look in their eye. When the officer asked that question, everybody is looking directly at him to see his response. And he immediately puts his head down. When you Body language, man. >> any way about this at all. All right? I have to ask these questions. I would I've asked everybody these questions. Do you know where Laura is now? >> No, I do not. >> Okay. >> No, I do not. And if I did, child, I don't I don't >> That's out of the way, so I want to ask you some other stuff, too, okay? Again, we look into everybody, we look into everything. All right? This job will make you cynical. And we have to go over every single single thing. For two reasons. One, we got to make sure cuz what's going to happen is if we get asked, you know, "Why didn't you ask that question? You never You never asked the question." It looks like uh you may not have been at work certain days during that that time. That's why I kind of asked you, "Was there anything that would have kept you home? Do you remember not going to work or calling in sick that you were supposed to be at your shift and didn't?" >> No. >> You don't remember any of that? Okay. >> This was the main question that this entire interview will revolve around. After contacting Andrew's work, they saw that he'd taken time off right around his daughter's disappearance. Now, while that might seem natural at first, it started to get suspicious when cops got a hold of his location data and saw that he went on an unusual car journey while he was absent from work. Clearly, this raised questions, questions that detectives wouldn't stop asking until he told the truth. >> You don't go to work, so that should There were a couple days during that time frame you didn't go to work. >> Time frame being the last time Miranda Miranda showed up. >> That week before she went >> missing. You come home and not find her. Do you remember calling in sick any of those days? >> No. >> Okay. And the And the reason we're asking is there something happening at home? You went to work that night, came home, she was missing. That day whole day before, did you leave town at all? >> I don't know. >> Andrew >> Hey. Detectives are going to ask you questions they already know the answer to. They already tracked his phone data, man. The location, he bouncing around, making moves, going on road trips. And when they ask you, you don't have no alibi, no nothing, or you going to say no, so they know you're lying. >> kept denying, so the detectives just changed their approach. They stopped posing it as a question and started stating it as a fact. >> Um cuz it looks like you went just before you went to work. So, you went to Jacksonville during that day and then came back, then went to work. Do you remember that? >> Yeah. >> Okay, what was that for? >> That was driving a friend of mine to the airport. >> Who was your friend? >> Tim. >> Tim what? >> Tim Brown. >> Tim Brown? >> Mhm. >> So, that was all it was? >> I thought he was going to say Tim Horton. You get it? Haha, get it? >> You took him to the airport. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. Is it Is Tim his real name? >> Yeah. >> Is it Timothy or What does Tim look like? >> He's red, short, low cut. >> Okay. Uh how old? >> I don't know, 30 something. >> 30 something? Okay. Um and that was that day. What was it Where was Lori that day? Was she with you with you or >> No, Lori was home. >> Okay. She was at home? Okay. She didn't ride with you to the airport? Like I said, it it's just and you can see where we're going with this, right? You have You have there's a trip out of town, Lori goes missing, then you're going to an urgent care facility. You know, I'm it it's just I Like I said, I'm not I'm not suspicious of either one of you or anything. All right? I just kind of These are questions that are going to come up and we need answers to them, that's all, so we can explain it and kind of go in the right direction for this case and look elsewhere. Right? Do you call anybody or ask anybody or go looking for any place before you call us? >> Did I do that? >> Yeah. >> I'm not sure. I I know I called the police. When I got home, I was I was at the airport. >> Do you remember about what time you got home? >> No. >> Okay. Um, do you know if you got home later than usual or earlier than usual? >> It depends on the time. >> Mhm. >> Cuz sometimes if I do overtime, I get off a little late. >> Okay. >> They knew Andrew was hiding something. Not one part of his story made sense. And all he's been able to do is give excuses and pretend he doesn't know anything. They weren't going to get anything out of him like this. At least nothing admissible in court. So, 8 days later, they showed up to his front door with a search warrant. >> We have a copy of the search warrant for you. We'll get to you. Thomasville has it. Here's just a copy of the search warrant. You can go to the courthouse to get a copy of it. Apparently, that doesn't apply to me cuz this is Georgia and you know, from Florida. But, it's signed by the judge. This is your copy to have. You can keep that. You can get a copy of that and all the documents that they forwarded out. >> And what does [ __ ] What does [ __ ] Like, yeah. >> It's a search warrant for your house. Lord. >> Like, what? >> It's automatic. You're advised or Detective Magnan told you there's a warrant that they're going to go through your house. All we were really told is that I have a search warrant signed for your house for a certain item. >> During the search, they learned that Andrew had changed his computer and disposed of his old one. They also learned that he had dismantled and factory reset many of his other devices, which the police interpreted as an attempt to derail their investigation. They saw his journal where he complained about his inability to control his angry and violent feelings. But, their most important discovery came from chemical tests carried out on Andrew's vehicle, multiple spots on the passenger side tested positive for blood. All the while, another set of detectives were investigating more about Andrew's past and discovered something shocking. They learned he had another child about the same age as Lori and that that child was the only thing that stopped him from strangling his ex-wife to death when they hit him with a frying pan. In March 2024, the police subpoenaed Priceline, an online travel agency, >> When they hit him with a frying pan. Wait, hold on. Who hit him with a frying pan? Strangling his ex-wife to death when they hit him with a frying pan. The kids hit him with a frying pan? >> shocking. They learned he had another child about the same age as Lori and that that child was the only thing that stopped him from strangling his ex-wife to death when they hit him with a frying pan. In March 2024, the police subpoenaed Priceline, an online travel agency, attempting to find out more about Andrew's trip to the airport with Tim. When they looked him up, they discovered no flights under Tim's name. What they did find, however, was a ticket to Puerto Rico in Andrew's name on that very day. >> I think I think even Tim's confused as to why he would use him as an alibi to go to Jacksonville when that didn't happen. >> Like I said, I don't know what he said. He didn't tell me anything, so if that's what he said, that's what he said. So, I don't know. I don't know what he told me. >> The other thing too about it is it's not just that what Tim said is that we know that's not where he went to Jacksonville. >> Why wouldn't he go to Jacksonville? >> Cuz you were going to take a flight to Puerto Rico. >> Okay. >> So, we're finding it a little odd, but you had a flight booked to Puerto Rico and all of a sudden you turned back around, come home and you didn't have any plans for anybody to keep them or I don't know what to tell you. >> Well, how about something we would understand? How about something that that explains why she ain't around anymore? >> She ran away. >> But she wouldn't run. >> They >> No, she didn't run away. >> They ain't going to run. I don't know what to tell you. >> Why did you go to Korea? Why would you want to go? Hell, you didn't even call out sick that day. You just left. You were going to leave work, leave leave Lori, leave everybody. >> He didn't have anybody to sit with. >> tell nobody. You didn't do nothing. You just bought a ticket and drove to Jacksonville. >> He didn't have nobody to sit with. They were sitting with Lori. This is what we're going to do for your court business. >> When this ends up being over, you're going to need to have a story to explain why things went the way they went. >> That's fine. >> Okay? >> Yeah. >> And and one I I I would hope a jury would understand. Cuz that's the way this is looking right now. >> Andrew still refused to provide any more information, but at this point, it was all but over for him. A further search of Andrew's devices revealed searches such as where do police look to find missing kids and bad neighborhood, Tallahassee, Florida. Then, they carried out further analysis on Andrew's location data, digging for more places he went to around the time Lori went missing. They learned that he had visited many wooded areas in the days leading up to her disappearance. One place was particularly interesting, Bearly Plantation, located just north of the Florida-Georgia border. It was a vacant plantation with large amounts of wooded areas, and Andrew's phone had logged a location there around 7:00 a.m. on June 1st, 2023. The police conducted three cadaver dog searches here over the next few months. In January, they did find a pile of human bones, but DNA analysis came back inconclusive. It was starting to seem like Lori Page's disappearance might remain a mystery until on April 5th, their final search yielded another pile of bones, and this time the result came back positive. After nearly two years of searching, police had found Lori, and she had been murdered by her own father. At last, on April 11th, 2025, police tracked down Andrew Wiley for the last time and arrested him on suspicion of murdering his daughter. >> You want to come over you want to just come over to my car? When did you move to Tallahassee? >> Uh September. >> September? >> Yeah, September. >> Do you have any weapons on you? >> No, I do not. >> I'm going to pat you down. Do you have any weapons on >> No. >> I'll put your money back. You know why we're here, right? We're going to head to the station. We're going to have a chat. >> Okay. >> Officers brought him straight to the interrogation room where this time it didn't matter if he didn't answer their questions. In fact, his plan this time was to actually stay completely silent, but that wouldn't work because now the detectives had everything they needed to put him behind bars. All they were going to do was give him a chance to explain himself and try to figure out why he killed his own daughter. >> I mean, if I were in your position, I'd have a ton of questions as to why I was here now. And I I don't know going to pretend you're not a smart man. I know you're a smart man. So you understand the difference between murder, manslaughter, and everything in between, right? Negligent manslaughter, any of those things? You understand that? You've seen people come in and out of that prison day in day out, different types of charges. How do the ones look that are charged with murder versus the ones that are charged with lesser offenses? Do they look different? Do they act different? Which one do you want to be? >> He is CEO. And he worked at the jail. He did have like a security looking uniform on. But the way that he this detective is talking is that you see people walk in and out of that jail and stuff, you know. So, I wonder if he worked at the jail. >> You know why you're here. Like I said, I'm not playing games with you. >> Don't you think everybody deserves to know what happened to her? I mean, does anybody here I mean, for you? >> Do you want everybody to think you're a monster? Cuz I can tell you right now, if you wait to do that when you get to court, ain't nobody going to listen to you. Your chance is right now. We can amend charges. >> I don't got nothing to say. >> Your family, Brandy's family, tell us point. >> Your son, >> half the country. Do you even care? >> Nope. >> I mean, I was just asking, man. You said giggling and hand cuffs while while you're being charged with your daughter's murder. >> You want me to talk to you? >> Yeah. That wasn't clear when I said that a minute ago. >> You didn't say anything. You asked me why I'm here. That's why I'm here. >> That's why you're here. >> I'm a suspect, basically. >> I mean, we're we're talking about a 2-year investigation. We're We're not going to sit here and go through every piece of evidence, but what we can tell you is that we have enough evidence to charge you with murder. >> Charge random people? >> No. >> No. Don't charge random people. >> Definitely not random. >> Especially not after a 2-year investigation. >> And I'm telling you right now, if you don't show any signs of remorse right now >> you show signs of remorse? >> don't show any signs that you've given right now, you are going to be convicted. There is no doubt in my mind. Convicted of what is up to you. That's your only play here. Is it going to be guilty as charged, or is it going to be something else? Because right now I'm with with you and and the way you're acting uh it's going to be guilty as charged, no doubt in my mind. I've done enough of these. This is your shot, bud. And I'm willing to listen now. I'm willing to file any information that you have to go along with this case. And you know what, deep down, I think you do feel bad. I think you do have remorse for what happened. And I think you got scared and did some stupid so she wouldn't be found. >> So you didn't find my daughter? >> That's all you're concerned about, whether or not we found her? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, we found her. She's right where you left her. >> You sitting here and throwing your hands up like you found her, so what? Well, you're being charged with murder and we're saying we found her, so I think you're smart enough to put two and two together. >> Come on, Andrew. Be be a true grieving father like you are, like I know you are. >> It's over, man. >> Do what you have to do to make this right now. You won't have another opportunity. You'll be looking at a bunch of people >> [sighs and gasps] >> You guys are wasting your time. Some guys this this tactic works on some people, but he didn't care from the jump. This isn't going to work. This is this tactic does not work to try to get a confession or to get him to talk or whatever. I mean, maybe you might get lucky, maybe, but from the get-go I look back and listen to what her friends were saying when they were first doing searches for her and stuff like that with the school and everything and he's sitting there laughing. All right, he know that they're not going to find her. He knows what happened. All of these different things that have gone on for the past 2 years, even sitting here right now, knowing that you know, the jig is up, you know? Like Drake said, we know how that old Jesus rocking, the jig is up. Like the jig is up. It's over. But he's sitting there with a smirk on his face. I would be shocked if you get a confession out of him, honestly, but let's see what the let's see what happens. >> Oh, and jury booth that won't give a won't give a flying hell about what you say when it comes your time. They're not going to care. They're going to look at everything else, and then they're going to convict you. But they have to get it right. I need them to get it right. You need them to get it right. So, we need to know what actually happened. Okay? Was it a mistake? Was it an accident? >> Doesn't matter. >> Keep it up, man. This This is your life, not mine. I can give a [ __ ] When When this is over When this is over, that's it. That's the only opportunity you're going to get. I'm going to go about my business. I'm going to work the next case. Okay? >> Doesn't matter. The mystery's over. All right. >> Acting like that is what's pissing me off. >> Laura's dead. You're charged with her murder. >> So, my daughter's dead? >> She's dead. We found her remains. >> Where? >> You tell us. Cuz you wouldn't be here charged with murder for your daughter's death >> Crazy. >> if we didn't have evidence to support that you did it. We wouldn't be doing it all speculation. We wouldn't be doing it all somebody thinks you did it. We got evidence to support that you did it. >> Do you have evidence? >> Mhm. >> I didn't kill her. >> You didn't kill her? >> Mhm. That's what you said. >> Yes. And that's why you're here right now. >> So, why we talking? >> Because what we want to know is how did it happen? That's what we're giving you the opportunity to tell us. Did you just get mad at her one day and decide this is the day? Was it an accident? Did something happen and you got scared after the fact? >> Did you plan it? I mean, those are all I would want to be answered if I were a jury. >> We wouldn't be doing our job if we weren't sitting here asking you these questions to try and give you the opportunity to tell us what actually happened that day. >> And if I were on trial for it, I would like to give the jury those answers before they speculate as to what it was. Cuz then them coming up with their own their own ideas is going to be very bad for you. Premeditated child murder does not look well for you in court. But you know what? Every parent up there has been frustrated with their kids. Every parent up there has thought about, "Oh my god, I wish this would just stop. They're screaming, they're yelling, I can't control them." People understand that. People understand what it brings them to. Getting mad, punching walls, doing whatever, you know, that kind of stuff. Some people do lose their temper, they understand that. But you know what they don't understand and what they don't like? Is someone sitting in your position with a smile on his face not giving a damn one way or another. That's what they're going to see. Change your mind. Don't let them see that. Let them see who you are. >> Nothing they said seemed to appeal to Andrew. This was his final chance to defend himself, but he was staying silent. The police tried one more time to get him to open up, hoping they'd finally hear the truth. >> After how long? Miranda just drops her on your doorstep, now you got to deal with it, work, and everything else? That's a tough spot. She's got all these problems, problems at school, problems everywhere else, and now you got to deal with it? You didn't get a choice? She just didn't come pick her up? And now you got to enroll her in school. Never done that before. Then she's having all these problems at school, problems at home, you still got to work, what, a night shift, and then come home to deal with that? I mean, that's not an easy life. I get your perspective. I understand your point of view. I want everyone else to understand that, too. >> Jared. Yeah, I just ate my breakfast today. Yeah, I tried to do it in there. >> Yeah. >> I need to worry about that. >> Okay. Good luck. >> The current belief is that Andrew sexually assaulted Lori, but panicked when he realized he couldn't cover it up. Andrew was found to be getting STD treatment around the time of Lori's death, and there's a record of him buying a Plan B pill, too. Unfortunately, Lori's remains were far too degraded to properly determine if she was pregnant or not. Andrew never conceded and was charged with second-degree murder, but the police never knew for certain how or why he killed her. Andrew maintained his innocence to the police and his family all the way up until June 19th, 2025, when he died in custody of pulmonary embolism while awaiting trial. What started as a mystery >> What the hell is that? >> and his family all the way up until June 19th, 2025, when he died in custody >> Mhm. >> of pulmonary embolism while awaiting trial. What started as a mystery over 2 years ago would forever remain unsolved. >> Technically unsolved. >> [clears throat] >> Technically unsolved, but we know what we know the real deal though. Oh [sighs] man, this is this is sad man. This is bad. But in my eyes everyone failed them. Everyone failed them. The mom the other uh you know it's I can't even say the other family members. You know what I mean? It take two people to make a child. Mom, dad. They both failed, okay? She want to go out, party, drop the kid off, leave it with it and then this guy is a monster. He can't handle it. And he's a creep. He's a weirdo. He he doing different things to his kid and all that. Weirdo. Real weirdo. Yeah, he they was going to get him together regardless. There ain't no way he was surviving that sentence. Do what? They technically can't prove it. They technically can't prove it on that part of with the STD, all of that. They technically can't prove it. So, I don't know. The inmates might all right, you know, but still you're still in there for doing something like that to your kid. There's plenty of people that's in there right now that wish they could see their kid. That wish they could hug their kid, give them a kiss on the forehead. The only time they see their kid is through a glass, you know, and that's the reality of the situation whether they was out there selling drugs, doing whatever, doing whatever they doing, you know, whatever they got in trouble for. But there's plenty of people that are parents that's inside of there and I wish they could see their kid and they can't and then you got this jerkoff who is tormenting his kids. So, yeah, they was going to put him through the ringer regardless. So, it was it's over. >> [laughter] >> It's over, man. Damn, that's crazy. But >> [sighs and gasps] >> Sad sad situation, man. Anyway, that's the live. Um you guys enjoy your weekend. Y'all have a good one. I'm going to catch you guys on Monday. Um you know. We got a little We're going to have a little rocky start, you know, the next probably I would say the next month or two or whatever probably going to be a little rocky. You know, I changed the uh the thumbnail format to put my face more on there and stuff uh cuz this is a reaction channel, so I you know, I want people to go into that knowing. Um you know, kind of like your other reactors and stuff like that. So, with that being said, the views dramatically decreased, which I knew it would. Um but in return, hopefully I'm getting the people that watch that want to watch reactors and not just clicking on a video thinking that it's going to be a regular video because and then you know, you got me on there talking, you know, what I mean? So, anyway, so yeah, you know, y'all y'all if you looking at it and you see damn, well what damn, he his views [clears throat] is crazy low now. That's why. We changed the format a little bit. So, it is what it is. I know I'm a I know YouTube going to punish me for a little while, but it's all right. We going to get there though. Um anyways, you guys have have weekend. I'm going to catch y'all on Monday for Monday's live. And um that's that. I'll catch you guys on the flip side, man. Yeah, now where is the button? Where is the button? There we go. Peace. >> [music] [music] [music]