I'm a United States military veteran and
I'm asking that your department you to
stand down and if you accost me I will
sue your bond do you understand I will
go after your bond you're bonded I
understand what probable cause is okay
remember I used to be a law enforcement
officer I'm going to make a deal of this
do you understand what you're up
against welcome back to the van Balan
Channel guys today we head to Oregon for
a video where a supposed military
veteran ex law enforcement officer and
let's add Karen into the mix as well
because he demands to speak to the
supervisor like Karen at McDonald's goes
full soft it when he gets pulled over
for no front tags and thinks because he
produced his license on a previous stop
under jurus of course he shouldn't have
to produce it now because the deputy
pulling him over today was present has
back up on that previous stop of course
that's not how the law works at all so
the deputy and his Sergeant deal with
him accordingly right let's get into the
video traffic stop sir were you not on
the last traffic stop when you guys
check my driver's license you pulled me
over did you not the other gentleman
pulled me over and you were on that
traffic stop correct I did not pull you
over I was not on that traffic but you
were on that traffic stop you pulled in
when I was there talked to him and you
were there at that traffic stop correct
right over here and I explain to him so
I've already explained to you I have my
license you guys just pulled me over in
this vehicle and you were on that
traffic stop and he let me know cuz he
already ran my license he already
checked my insurance okay you already
know that I have this issue so please
allow me to go along my business okay
I'm trying to go travel to get my mail I
just came do you have driver's license
proof of insurance and registration for
this vehicle okay first of all I love
how this deputy just ignores his insane
ramblings and remains professional this
only serves to frustrate our sofit
friend as the stop progresses which I
find madly amusing secondly if you've
already been pulled over for no
registration and you continue to drive
on public roads without fixing that
issue that's on no one else but
you sir I do not have registration for
the vehicle because I got the title and
I lost the title like I said that before
okay you already now I have the right to
travel in this country without a license
to travel in my personal vehicle you
want to go there do you have a driver's
license I have a license I surrendered
that last time when I didn't want to Li
why what's your reason for asking for my
license you can't ask for my ID unless I
committed a crime state of Oregon you
have to provide that's a federal law sir
it's a federal law that's my Fourth
Amendment right to travel freely you do
not have the right to aost my
right to travel and here's me thinking
the doctrine of the right to travel
which encompasses three separate rights
is very well established and very easy
to look up but this guy for some reason
thinks the Fourth Amendment covers it do
you have are you are you hearing me he
didn't hear it last time and then he
figured it out I have the right to
travel the Supreme Court just ruled
that's that out you don't have the right
to stop me sir yes I do I haven't
committed a
crime that's not a crime what kind of
crime is it that's a moving violation
that's not a crime sir violation it's
not a crime you can't ask for my ID
without a crime if unless I committed a
crime correct correct yes or no state of
you cannot ask for my ID unless I've
committed a crime correct listen to me
incorrect you've committed a traffic
infraction therefore you are required by
law to produce your driver's license and
no amount of semantics and word salad
will change that fact in the state of
Oregon you have to this is a federal law
sir a federal law do you understand
federal law supersede state law well yes
federal law can supersede state law but
only when that law is in conflict and
before you ask no whining crying and
misinterpreting the law on the side of
the road doesn't count as a conflict it
is a misdemeanor to not have proof of
identification on the state of organ do
you have proof of identification on you
it's misy meter to not have ID on you in
the state of Oregon yes it is can you
show me that law first can you please
call your supervisor out here right now
please can you please call your super
I'm requesting a supervisor and this
gentleman is not giving first of all I
need your supervisor out here right now
on okay thank you thank you CU you guys
are harassing me now okay first of all
being held accountable for your actions
is not harassment so drop the
persecution complex it's not a good luck
and secondly he Compares a cop asking
for a license to a crack addiction later
on in the video but I could say the same
thing about a sofit demanding to speak
to a supervisor on every single stop the
difference is a cop asking for a license
is based in actual law unlike his need
for the supervisor which is based on
emotion and
fifes you are harassing me you were on
that traffic stop sir you know that I've
already been pulled over in this vehicle
and explain to your office that I have
insurance on this vehicle okay and you
already ran my license I have not ran
your license my license has already been
run in the system sir the last time does
not count for today okay and I wasn't
going to but I wanted to explain to him
exactly how this law works so we're
going to get your supervisor out here
please traffic stop okay please get your
supervisor out here so we can speak to
your
supervisor well hello there Mr Warner of
course the supervisor knows who this guy
is now now why doesn't that surprise me
he was on my last traffic stop I just
bought this vehicle Tom he they pulled
me over and ran my license which I let
him in I don't Tom under the fourth
amendment I do not have to need a
license to
travel you do on Oregon State highways
but it's a federal it's the fourth
amendment Tom will you please you're the
supervisor will you please look at this
I'm not going will you please look into
this Tom you're the super I'm going to
argue with you I just got pulled over
Tom checked my insurance they've already
checked this vehicle and this gentleman
was on the stop so why is he harassing
me I'm telling you that on an orgon Tom
I'd like to go along my way please you
have to have an Oregon driver's license
okay sir I'd like to go along my way Tom
I'd like to travel
freely and go about my way license I
already showed him my license and this
gentleman was on the stop dude come on
surely you cannot be this dumb to think
showing your license to a officer on a
previous stop a stop this Deputy was
part of in some capacity means you don't
ever have to show your license again on
future stops please tell me you're
trolling us because nobody can be this
dumb can they see that's my problem this
is harassment
Tom just but that's unan he was already
there I've already even let go Tom
please let me go Tom about my business
or write me a ticket because I'm going
to take this County if you don't
understand you guys need to stop people
pulling people over for harassing
them the fourth amendment gives you the
right to travel without a license the
Supreme Court would you guys please
address that please address
it well first of all they are not there
to nor are they obliged to address your
insane ramblings on the side of the road
they just don't get paid enough for that
secondly you keep using the word right
to travel Fourth Amendment and the
Supreme Court and well I don't think it
means what you think it
means yeah it's up there in the
window dude this is harassment man I'm
getting to explain
St you guys I explained to the
supervisor out here that I've already
been pulled over in this vehicle and
they know this this guy here was on the
Stop and he's acting like he wasn't
there no you just don't understand how
traffic stops work that's all plus he
admitted to you on camera that he was
there on the previous stop it even makes
sense why he might be vague on the
details one because he wasn't the
primary officer and two because you're
just not the center of his world also
why do you even have a re tag if by your
own logic you don't need one and didn't
come up in here and ask uh and already
know that I've already been Let Go by
this County because I have a valid
license and I have valid insurance on
this
vehicle I've just having an issue
because I just bought it with the tags
that's all it is by issue do you mean
driving without registration after a
warning or ticket on a previous stop
which would make this traffic stop
perfectly legitimate and make you a soft
Caron for making this a bigger deal than
it needs to be so I'm just asking them
to Tom were you please recognize what
I'm
saying this is my traffic stop okay okay
that's your supervisor so I'm not
talking to you anymore I'd like to talk
to I'm requested your supervisor so
you're out of the traffic stop please
for driver please you have driver
license sir are you aware that it is
illegal to ask me for my license under
the fourth amendment I have the right to
travel fre as a I have not committed a
crime and unless I've committed a crime
you do not have the right to stop me
that's called a costing me Tom you know
I know my rights Tom that is something
you you feel free to argue that with the
judge along side of the road is not the
place to make this argument okay first
of all you should know this being an ex
cop but you don't get to decide which
officer conducts the traffic stop just
because you don't like what you're
hearing and secondly for someone who
knows his rights you're doing a great
job of hiding it because in no way is it
illegal or unreasonable for a cop to ask
you to produce your drivers like license
for a registration plate violation and
finally the supervisor you demanded is
100% correct the side of the road is not
the place to make this argument you make
it in Zoom Court where the judge can rip
you a new one Tom I'm going to tell you
right now please sir your
department has already checked this
vehicle and let me go and he was on that
traffic stop I'm asking you right now to
be let go if you ask me for my license
Tom I'm going to go after and I'll make
us think about this Tom I've let you
when I reported the murder to you and
you didn't do anything about it Tom
let's not forget that I had that on my
live stream Tom no no no don't I do you
want to look at this do you want to look
at this Tom saw your live stream and I
know what you reported and it was looked
into how come nobody ever called me Tom
so well maybe it's because they are not
obliged to contact you or maybe you're
just not as important as you think you
are have you ever considered that also I
can't believe I have to explain this to
a grown adult but just because you were
licensed and insured on a previous stop
doesn't necessarily mean you are now nor
does it mean you never have to produce
your documents on future traffic
stops never ask Tom so let me let me go
about my business and freely travel Tom
because that's all I'm doing here I'm a
United States military veteran and I'm
asking that your department you to stand
down and if you accost me I will sue
your bond do you understand I will go
after your bond you're bonded and I will
sue your bond if you ask me for my life
I have not committed a crime that's a
traffic violation and you don't have the
right to ask me for but you said it
yourself you know this is an issue
meaning your license plate and
registration so all these threats about
going after him and suing his bond which
isn't even a thing by the way is a
complete nonstarter and a waste of your
oxygen and everyone's time but wasting
time is what you guys like sell at so
please carry on with you driving a motor
vehicle and the knowledge knowing that
you don't have an organ driver's license
there's reason for the stop I do not
need a license to travel Tom Tom will
you please recognize the federal not so
you don't recognize the federal for you
don't recognize my fourth amendment I'm
telling you the or that you can't stop
me unless I've committed a crime no he
just doesn't recognize your skewed
interpretation of the right to travel
and the Fourth Amendment that's all
and he's in Good Company because not
once has this argument ever been
successful in
court so are you going to are you going
to present ID are you going to present a
driver's license under are you gonna
arrest me if I don't are you going to
you guys these guys are these guys are
threatening I have not committed any
crime no crime at all I have the
supervisor out here zero crimes I've
committed no crime so they cannot ask me
for my license unless I've committed a
crime for ID that's called a costum you
don't even have the right to stop me
legally unless I've committed a crime I
know the law are you aware that the
constitution was ruled on 9 months ago
that you have the right to freely
travel you have the right to freely
travel your V please I know the law
proclaims every Sovereign citizen ever
right after visiting and download in a
list of Cherry Picked and even sometimes
made up Supreme Court cases from a right
to travel we site look nobody disputes
your right to travel but the method in
which you travel can be regulated per
the 10th Amendment also if the Supreme
Court had ruled that you don't need a
license to operate a motor vehicle it
would be one of the biggest and most
momentous and highly publicized
decisions in the history of the court
and all police and law enforcement
agencies would be operating illegally by
asking you for your license
Tom will you please recognize this
because this is going to come up Tom you
got to you're you're a Sheriff Tom
please just please recognize what I'm
saying to you please please validate my
delusional beliefs officer what's with
all the begging and pleading you almost
sound like what some people would call a
boot licker but more on this
later are you recognizing that the
constitution was ruled on 9 months ago
that the constitution the Supreme Court
rep said under the fourth amendment that
if I'm traveling I'm not engaged in
Commerce remember Tom I have a
commercial license I'm not engaged in
Commerce oh I'm not engaged in Commerce
that's why I have a commercial driver's
license does this guy even hear himself
speak I'm traveling in my personal
vehicle which is not required to have a
license you are required it's this
vehicle is not required to have a
license every vehicle in Oregon is
required not under the federal law if
you'd like to arrest me and take me to
jail over this I will fight this
department and I will sue you your bond
both of your bonds because Tom you'll
see you guys got to start recognizing
that the constitution was ruled on I
told you you can argue this with the
judge with the judge absolutely you can
argue your your your case with the
judge why would I argue anything with
the judge I haven't committed a crime
but you you're failing to present your
driver's license which one that is a
crime in the state of
it's a
under I've already presented you ID Tom
you've seen my ID before you know I have
a commercial license your department
just pulled me over and let me go well
then Tom then please just let me travel
that doesn't work that true words have
never been spoken now arresting for
obstruction and failing to ID if you
don't then he will continue to pull this
right to travel gri and believe he's in
the
right so are you threatening to R I'll
give you my license under a threat that
you're going to give me a
violation and that's illegal Tom so are
you threatening to give me a violation I
am not threatening I will present my
license if you are threatening if they
are going to give me a violation and
that's illegal but I'll give it to you
under threat of a violation if you do
not have a valid Oregon driver LIC I
have been checking right now I have you
know that I have a CDL I don't even have
a record Tom well then L all you got to
do is show me your license Tom would you
please please sir Tom you run this show
out here sooner or later this is going
to come up
Tom yet again true words have never been
spoken guys like this conveniently
ignore the fact that this has been ruled
on many times and that it's not
unreasonable for law enforcement to ask
for and for you to produce your driver's
license when pulled over for the traffic
violation uh this is the reason why you
guys continue to lose this argumen in C
but please please never stop because
it's so fun to watch you guys hike up
the peak of Mount
stupid okay will you please look this up
online for me Tom will you please look
this up so so under I'm going to present
them with my commercial license which
I'm a commercial driver and I'm not
engaged in Commerce so you only have to
have a license to Supreme Court let me
at least tell you what they said Tom
we're not we don't have to argue with
each other okay and then you can take it
from there Tom the Supreme Court ruled 9
months ago that if an American citizen
under the fourth amendment is traveling
in in their personal vehicle that the
constitution supersedes state law cuz
it's federal law please look this up
they said that I don't need this license
or a registration on the back of my
vehicle to travel if I engaged in
Commerce then I need a license I know
that Tom I'm a CDL driver I'm a
commercial look it up please get back in
touch with me not no you're
misinterpreting things here am I yeah I
believe so yes yes you are
misinterpreting it because there is no
way the Supreme Court ruled nine months
ago that quote an American citizen under
the fourth amendment is traveling in
their personal vehicle the Constitution
supersedes State law cuz it's federal
law I'm sorry but that sounds like
something you've just pulled from your
backside rather than a genuine Supreme
Court case so under threat of them going
to give me a violation for not
presenting this when I don't even
legally have to under the Fourth
Amendment so that legally is a this
simplifies many things I understand but
that's not the law under the Fourth
Amendment Tom please just recognize
it see they're like crackheads but with
the license they have to have the
license so under the threat of they're
going to you know whatever I got dogs at
home guys I got nobody to take care of
me right so this is why under the threat
of you know a violation and and more
problems that I don't even need I'm
going to go ahead and surrender my
license but you notice I don't lick the
freaking boot so I guess we're all
supposed to just ignore the part of the
video you know about 5 minutes ago where
you not only licked it but you pretty
much swallowed the whole supervisor's
boot while begging and pleading with him
to believe everything you were saying
without question okay I'll play along
but I can't promise you my audience
will so they'll probably give me
violation anyways and I'll go ahead and
see the judge cuz right now I'm actually
under the Fourth Amendment I'm going to
go ahead and uh see about my Fourth
Amendment right to
travel without a license freely
harassment these people already pulled
me
over in the same vehicle and they know
they've already done it their department
and this other guy was on the same
traffic stop that's what's so crazy
about it that's what's crazy the only
thing ridiculous and crazy here is you
thinking the right to travel includes
the right to operate an RV on a public
road without a license registration and
insurance there's no reason they already
saw my license they've already seen it
they've already seen that I have legal
Insurance on this
vehicle your license is good just like
yeah it is I don't have Cam recording
too I understand that all I'm asking you
please too would you recognize what I'm
saying listen to me all you had to do is
give me this and it wouldn't be enough
you guys are like crackheads but with
driver license do you understand that
what I'm saying do you hear what I'm
saying will you please at least just
recognize we don't have to be enemies we
live in the same town I knew you before
you ever became a cop and you were a
good man and I'm not saying that you're
not now are you aware that the Supreme
Court you just trampled my rights state
of Oregon we're not going to the Supreme
Court okay okay okay you don't care
about Supreme Court you don't recognize
it that's why a tyrant I am a deputy
you're a tyrant is what you are okay in
the state of Oregon you have to carry
proof of your driver's license proof of
identification you also have to so you
don't recognize the fourth amendment I
do I do oh then if you did and you were
upholding your office as a public
servant you would listen to when I was
telling you that I don't need a right to
travel a license in the Supreme Court
and you would recognize it but you don't
you already said that you don't you
won't listen to what I'm telling you
therefore you're a tyrant now if that
isn't the calling the kettle black then
I don't know what is also have to carry
proof of insurance in your vehicle
because you work for the state you not
and so do you Tom you don't work for the
people and you've made that obvious
don't work for the state work for the
county county well the county the state
the you don't work for the people two
plates on the vehicle which you do not
have since that by PC for the stop I
understand what probable cause is okay
remember I used to be a law enforcement
officer well obviously you don't know
what probable cause is because you've
said many times that it's a violation of
your fourth amendment for them to pull
you over for not having a registration
plate that right there makes me question
your claim that you were a law
enforcement officer in any
capacity do you have insurance in the
vehicle sure you guys already saw my
insurance I that was not my traffic stop
may I see the insurance on the
vehicle I'd like to go along my way Tom
they've already checked me last time and
let me go would they have let me go if I
didn't have insurance Tom may I see I'm
asking you now as see visor to be let go
I'm going to go after your bond do you
understand that I'm going to make a deal
of this do you understand what you're up
against oh I have no doubt that you will
make a deal of this you won't get the
outcome you desire but I know you won't
let a little thing like being wrong get
in the way and yes they know exactly
what they are dealing with you're not
the first idiot to fall for this right
to travel grift and you certainly won't
be the
last you stop me in my means of
traveling
you stopped me already which is a
violation you don't have the right to
accost a man if you're walking down the
street I can't put my hands on you and
stop you that's called accosting a man
and you have the right to freely travel
under the Fourth Amendment and you don't
want to recognize that you have
insurance so you don't have the right
you have
insurance yes or
no Tom are you going to allow your
Deputy ask you a very simple question
Tom what did I already say to him you
have Tom what did I have already said
how many times have I told you already
sir provide me Pro I need to
okay you're going to trample on my right
so you better expect some kind of
Retribution as far as a lawsuit because
you're violating my fourth amendment
rights first to travel where I
surrendered my license you saw that and
you already know which I've said to him
and now you guys have recorded multiple
times that I had Insurance already the
last time so why would you ask me if I
have it well you said it yourself you
had Insurance the last time that doesn't
necessarily mean you have it now does it
it could have lapsed in the time between
your last stop and this one plus the law
requires you to provide it in the same
way you are required to provide vehicle
registration which you acknowledge is an
issue Therefore debunking your own
argument well done insurance or I'm
going toite you for failure to carry
Insurance that's where we're at right
now why would I drive around without
insurance why do several people drive
around without insurance I don't drive
around without insurance sir but I'm not
required to have a license in the better
is sooner you Rec the longer that you
might have your jobs show me proof
Insurance
please we're going to have to wait a
minute because I'm going to have to stop
this which I don't want to I don't I Fe
I fear because phone what's that
insurance it's on my phone yeah that's
why and I don't want to stop this
recording show please show it to me and
and you'll be on your way as long as
your insurance is good I'll give you
warning on the plate and you'll be on
your way so are you guys going to pull
me over again do you realize there's a
process you guys already know this do
not keep any notes in your system the
problem that I'm having with you is you
came out to the last traffic stop why
would he let me drive away if I didn't
have insurance I pulled it on the
traffic stop I'm asking you a question
not to dodge the question answer the
question every individual Deputy if you
would Insurance he' give you a warning
that's that's up every Call's different
every Deputy is different I have I know
nothing about that stop I I didn't know
with the same vehicle I pull it over
okay I think you don't you don't
recognize this vehicle I'm call I I'm
calling you out I don't believe that to
be the truth I think you're being to do
that so let okay there's another one of
these traveling around in this town like
this okay I'll give you the insurance
but you know what under a threat you
better expect retribution for this as
far as legal retribution that's right to
do that so let's show me the insurance
okay because you're I understand I would
have given you insurance I don't have a
problem with that do you understand that
I don't have a problem giving you
insurance so stop going round and round
because I already told you that I had
Insurance you know for a guy who says he
doesn't have a problem showing insurance
for his vehicle he sure is doing
everything in his power to not show that
insurance but now you're going to say
the only thing you have a problem with
is showing your license because you have
the right to travel but by that logic
you shouldn't need insurance either
because you're supposedly exercising a
right but I guess that would take
consistency on your part and I'm afraid
that ship sailed a while
back it's this that I have a problem
that you surrendered from me cuz I don't
legally have to do that so you already
trampled my rights just so you know the
insurance this is ridiculous you guys
are absolute tyrants you guys already
pulled me over and you were on that stop
and that's the problem that I'm having
with
you and that my friends is where he cut
the video so no part free or followup to
the traffic stop but my guess is he
provided Insurance eventually and
received a citation for no registration
but that's just a guess on my part he
did upload a video the day after titled
First Amendment audit Fourth Amendment
violation right to freely Trav that had
nothing to do with the first or fourth
amendment or the previous day's traffic
stuff for that matter but accuracy or
consistency is not this guy's strong
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