welcome back to the channel guys today
i'm going to take a look at a zumco
hearing from sovereign citizens cannot
exist
formerly the marcus mario channel yes my
videos triggered him so much he changed
his channel name
he thinks because the term sovereign
citizen is an oxymoron they cannot exist
somehow
anyway i've already covered three of his
traffic stops already one in
pennsylvania and two in south carolina
but this is the first time we're going
to see him in court this is a triage
hearing in pennsylvania for drugs
charges and it's part of a bigger case
against a corrupt organization with 20
defendants
the da has offered him a deal but he
wants to withdraw his not guilty plea
which got him released from jail
and he also wants to make other
pseudo-legal arguments as well but the
judge who isn't the trial judge is not
having any of it
in existence as of march of 2020
and we are
triaging them
and finding out um
what's going to occur with them how
if we can to resolve them
and then let the defendants and council
know what are the options the options
are kind of limited right now
in terms of any jury trial
we only have an option for bench trials
right now
or if you're able to work out
a guilty plea
we have a way of taking that guilty plea
now
um right now
you know i'm familiar with the overall
case here i have been doing this triage
and this is a case that obviously
involves
some 20 co-defendants
along with you so
um
you know at this stage
they've indicated that you're not
interested in the resolution the
district attorney's has offered
i can understand that
from
you know a perspective of whether they
can prove the case against you or not
and i think it's really about how
you know how is the trial gonna take
place
so that um
you know at this current time if we
don't do anything
uh then when this
um corrupt organization case comes off
for trial
uh you'll be part of all the defendants
on that
um that doesn't seem very smart
especially since they seem
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critically
uh important from a community safety
standpoint so
um
you know at this stage
um i think the offer is what powerful
area to what ms mills
okay so essentially then you know that
to me is like okay that's a sentence
that you know is compared to what could
potentially happen now jury trials are
not going to be offered probably in
cases such as this large existence to at
least 2022
and it's going to take a while
you know
as a defendant now you have the option
uh because of we are offering bench
trials to go forward with the bench
trial if you would want to
um
and that way if you sever your case away
from them i don't know whether that
option will be available when we are
offering jury trials again the reason
it's available now
is because
people have the rule 600 rights and if
they want a jury trial then
rule 600 if you will is suspended but if
you requested a bench trial then it's
our obligation to get you scheduled
within the next month for a bench trial
so do you at least think you understand
the overall perspective of what we're
doing here for triage
sounds fairly straightforward to me he
has three options available to him plead
guilty and accept the deal go for a
bench trial which he can have within a
month or go for the jury trial which
will be part of the bigger corruption
organization case the judge mentioned
but won't happen for months so this
isn't the hearing for any shenanigans
you're there simply to choose one of the
three
so let's see where he takes this
uh
i comprehend the process
uh i'm not comprehending so much with
uh some of the situations with the case
um but i do understand the uh i do
comprehend okay it's not the process
that you're speaking of essentially what
do you think you want to do at this time
as um are you
are you talking about a play
right here
one way or the other this case has to go
into either it's a plea okay and again
it sounds like they've offered to a much
less than what you were charged with
for a time served to six months
if it is not a plea
then the question is do you want a bench
trial
that i will schedule within the next
30 days
and if you don't want a bench trial then
the case just defaults it's a jury trial
and you remain part of all of the
defendants that are in the corrupt
organization case those are really the
three choices
so
uh there's no record here uh if you're
telling me what your perspectives on the
case i mean i have a record
i have a
um
well i didn't i didn't ask for a lawyer
uh i was given one
i'm sorry yes sir um i i i was to my
understanding that i have uh the right
to assistance in counsel
uh i was given a lawyer first when i was
in custody uh that lawyer walked off
when i asked about a injured party or
any damages a way to settle any any
claim that's been made to invoke the
article three court
you know for someone who claims
sovereign citizens don't exist you sure
do a damn good impression of proving
they do
injured parties settling claims and
article-free courts are all sovereign
cities and buzzwords
and of course your lawyer walked off
public defenders don't have enough time
or get paid enough to deal with that bs
and i wasn't given any um the warrant
was written three days before the
incident happened so i'm trying to
figure out how a warrant was put out
before an incident from the future
happened
um and then also
uh
there were a couple other points but
those were the ones that i was trying to
understand
at first yeah
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um
you know they
they're pretty involved investigations
and look i'm not judging whether the
commonwealth can meet their burden of
proving you guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt or not yes
i know that in terms of you know some of
the emotions for the motion to
you know suppress or whatever
i mean we can hear them at a bench trial
some of your procedural issues could get
heard at a bench trial
um but i can't answer
those questions i just know that mr good
is an excellent attorney we were just
commenting on a case that he was rather
successful
you know he's good for you
you know not really a determination to
make i mean by the nature of
um you know he's court appointed because
of the conflicts so okay
um i can answer that question as to
uh may i ask
um what
are the charges
that are being charged with all the
charges full
right now
you're essentially in this larger trial
i guess he would be treated as an end
purchaser is that correct miss mills
yes your honor he's charged with
possession
um
he's charged with simple possession
under a16 receipt in commerce under a19
and then paraphernalia under a32
you know the only word you listened to
there was commerce but we'll come back
to that in just over a minute
are there guidelines that are higher
than what you're offering
yes judge on the a19 the guidelines
would be six to 16 months on the a16 i
believe it would be six to 16 months on
eight sixteen the simple position so if
he's found guilty of simply possessing
any controlled substance it would be
three to fourteen months of the
guidelines
all right so what guidelines simply mean
is if you if you were convicted what is
the reins that a judge can
sentence you in so i don't know how long
you were in jail how much credit you
have
uh towards that but again that's not if
that's not something right now that's
important it only becomes important if
you say i want my jury trial i want to
go to trial with all the other members
of this corrupt organization who are
alleged to have done something i know
what i did but i didn't do what they did
and after the trial if they convicted
you of possession
then that's just a sentencing range
that's all
uh i can't behind that um so this is a
commercial transaction right i heard to
say something about
this is this is a
this is a legal agreement like a
a a legal contract
no your charges are not a commercial
transaction a legal agreement or a
contract that's not how law works
commerce in this case refers to your
charge for the alleged purchase of drugs
through a business which is allegedly a
corrupt organization that's all it means
this whole case i mean
laws are held by contracts so somehow i
had to have some type of contracts
do i have
powers
they're charging you with possession of
the drugs that came through
some kind of corrupt organization i mean
that's kind of it's very simplistic
if you didn't possess those drugs
then you shouldn't leave guilty to
anything right i didn't want to make a
play at all
i'm just telling you if you do nothing
which is you know appears that we're
that you're just not sure whether you
want to make a decision today then the
case goes on a jury trial list you can
always make a decision at a later date
in the future i guess but i guess i i
would like to receive any any pleas that
i made because all the pleas were made
while i was incarcerated i didn't have
any choice to do that but to get out
so then it was your choice then you
chose to enter a not guilty plea due to
your circumstances now you want to
rescind or withdraw your plea because
now it's convenient
only rescinding a plea is not really a
thing you either withdraw a guilty plea
or plea of no contest the default plea
is not guilty but i know you're playing
the softset game of not entering a play
because you think the court doesn't have
jurisdiction over you for you to even
enter a plea which of course is total bs
uh if i was on the street free
um i would have been able to make uh
different decisions and i would have
handled the whole case much differently
than i'm being forced to now and i guess
that i just like the opportunity to be
able to totally comprehend what's going
on
these are the only options as of today
okay
okay
okay
shall i take this to get it over with
i'm not serving any more time the parole
will be over but you should not look at
it that way
if you say you legitimately said i
didn't do anything wrong
i'm going to make the commonwealth prove
no i'd like to rescind any any plea at
all
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was it not guilty plea entered by the
attorney
that was many many many months ago right
right that's i guess that's what i'm
that's the particular signature plea
that i'm talking about
there are only three types of pleasing
criminal court guilty not guilty and no
contest that's it there is no fourth
plea where you stay neutral and hope for
the best stop listening to people like
max stevens because they've never won a
case using this ridiculous strategy
i like to go through the this like
in this case he never entered a guilty
plea did he no not guilty please i never
i didn't want to enter anti-entry play i
wanted the opportunity to speak in court
at my first hearing without being
coerced
or underdressed to get myself out of a
dangerous situation i could be in a safe
situation and be able to make
conscious decision
without being you feel safe
and there's nothing here today is just a
decision that
when you want this to hang over you
that's okay and when we are giving jury
trials you're going to be part of the
group
and that's you know when it's gonna be a
long period of time so
uh i can't brand i saw that there was an
adjoiner in there i saw that there was a
jointer in there so
i'm sorry
i saw that there was a an adjoiner in
there uh so i took the liberty to go to
the law library while i was there and i
saw that the adjoiner was illegal
um so i'm just wondering how i can how
i'm gonna be attached
when we are offering when we're back up
and running
then you'll file a motion saying jointer
is illegal i'm offering you the
opportunity right now to split off from
that group yes
i comprehend i saw that they they
applied for the adjoiner and i saw that
they can't apply for the adjoiner in
this particular situation when i
reviewed the law but i don't i don't
want to
okay
illegally
and you can do that and it sounds like
that's that's where we're at
i would like to kind of go back
to where i was before mr hood entered
any plea for me
you mean back in jail before your lawyer
got you out on that not guilty plea
funny how he used to lie when it was
convenient to him
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yeah but he there's a non-guilty play i
didn't i didn't make it to him
i haven't been able to talk to mr he
doesn't answer my emails or anything i
saw him the other day when i went to the
court the courthouse to enter some
information into the record
did they receive the information that i
entered into the record the other day
when i saw mr hood at the courthouse
i enter paperwork into the record uh for
review
um because i've had a hard time getting
a hold of anybody to talk to anybody
about this case
uh i believe i sent it uh
a letter from the jail asking for the
discovery
um and i still you know it's a false
case i'm still trying to figure out why
this court was invoked in the first
place
cross i am going to
just at this stage default the case to a
trial
and
you know when we're offering trials uh
mr wood will be representing you
unless you decide to represent yourself
um or you obtain private counsel
uh on your own so you think you
understand that uh i comprehended i want
to withdraw or send any signature that
mr hood did and then i'd like to
do whatever you
i don't know what that means though so i
just don't know what it means you want
to rescind signatures hmm
my legal malpractice attorney understood
he understands what it means
well that's where you're going wrong you
need a criminal defense lawyer for a
criminal case not a legal malpractice
lawyer and what kind of lawyer is he if
he thinks you can withdraw and not
guilty plea
i don't know i guess i guess i'm just
being guided by the wrong lawyer first
sensible thing he said yet
i'm not sure you only have one attorney
and that attorney's mr hood
your options are
in the future we're not doing anything
this is the last time somebody will look
at your case for at least another six or
seven months
this is it
so things will remain the same and when
we're ready when the courts are ready to
host the jury trial and this corrupt
organization case comes up
you will be that'll be your jury trial
that's what will happen
all right
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i
uh i mean it's
i'm not sure i have much of a treat
yeah i don't know
yeah i don't really understand exactly
what you mean
um but
uh
i like to rescind and withdraw any any
previous play
until we have some type of okay we will
mark the file you withdraw anything
previously that you did not do yeah
negative or negative you didn't do
anything yeah he he did he did
no no he didn't file anything okay okay
he didn't file anything okay
would i be able to get that file from
him
okay
well i'm sorry that we couldn't conclude
the case today uh judge o'neill
well you're going on a jury trial list
and we'll just
we'll bring it up again when we start
with that jury trial all right
uh yes your honor all right
uh did the courts receive that those
documents that i entered um
i was just curious
okay
all right
i'm not the trial judge and nobody
we're just not working in that regard
right now we're trying we have eight
thousand cases in our backyard
understood
okay so yeah that's where the video
ended but the hearing was all but over
anyway and they decided to take his case
to jury trial or whatever the judge did
which of course is his right
let me know what you think about this
one in the comments guys and yes that
includes you marcus of sovereign
citizens cannot exist which you prove
wrong in every video
thanks for watching take care and i will
catch you in the next video
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