All right. So, we're starting with the one on the thumbnail. I'm just saying a little bit more so I can give YouTube time to register for people that are actually in the live so they can come in and not miss the beginning. But this flight attendant stole a person's unattended bag and had the dumbest excuse ever. Obviously, no one's going to believe that. Um, don't know why he even tried. He got caught. There's cameras, number one. I I don't even know why people would do this, but And then why would you risk your job? That's crazy. But here we go. So front flight attendant gets caught stealing passengers bag. >> Take an unattended bag that you don't know what's in it and you're going to take it onto a plane that's going somewhere with all these people on it. >> On June 23rd, 2019, a passenger reported his bag missing. What he didn't know was that a flight attendant was moments away from flying away with it. had like a wireless charger. >> Yeah, it was like half second. >> Half second the bathroom. I turn around to take my shoes, sit down, I turn around, you smash the door. >> The moment I came out the bathroom, >> where where were you seated? >> A bathroom in front of A7. >> A7. Okay, let me call out. See if somebody can work our camera. See if we can find anything on it. I have to put on the plane. >> It's sad that some just take your stuff like that. >> Stuff sit there all day. You don't touch it. As soon as you leave, if we have a camera there, we'll be able to see if uh how if it was there and and >> it was there for sure, sir. >> And then how it came up missing. >> Hey. Hey, Roy. U Mark. Hey. Um I got a guy up here. Um I don't know if there's anyone down there that works the cameras right now. Um the he um he went into the restroom. He had somebody pushing him in a wheelchair. Um he went the wheelchair attendant turn his back and he's got a bag now that's missing off the back of the wheelchair. Um it was a by the restrooms by A6. Um yeah. So, the it's a um it's a ABM wheelchair uh pusher. Um it's the blue one. And then the gentleman that um was in the wheelchair, he's a probably looks like he's probably about 22 years old. >> I'm 33, but I >> Okay, he he he's a young 33. Uh wearing black. >> I want to keep being known as a young 33. He's probably 22. Oh, a young 33. Nice. Just a nice little compliment. >> Plaid pants and and glasses. Black male. >> All right. >> What time is your flight? >> Soon. >> 7. Let me just double check over here. >> Hey, Ken. Ken, >> do you happen to have any black bags on the left here? Black bags uh in the last hour. Any blank bags left behind? >> I didn't know if you had something in your office. I'll check with Don down here. I got to watch it real quick. She'll be down here in a second. Okay. >> Where did he go to? Oh, >> you say your ID's in there also? >> Oh my god. My wallet's in there and my passport. >> That would sink my stomach realizing all my stuff. It's not just the bag, but all my identification, my Oh my god, my passport. I That would sink my stomach. Um, also, okay, people that steal bags and Amazon packages, I don't understand. Don't steal. Don't steal. But people that be stealing those Amazon packages off of porches are risking their freedom and they don't even know what's in the boxes. Like this one guy, I don't think I saved the body cam, but I did watch it. Got sent to jail cuz he wanted to he stole an Amazon package and it was dog food that happened to be in there. You're still going to jail. And it turned out to be dog food. Like leave stuff alone. >> Everything's Yeah. Yeah. cuz I have to put it in there to pass through the thing. >> Okay, let me get some information from you. >> Well, let's go take a walk down here. See if we can see this cuz I can spot it easily. >> So, hey Roy, I'm going to step away from the checkpoint here. See if we can locate it. on the back on the camera was like a perfect set, black pants, black jacket, white shirt. He's got some sort of linger. He grabbed it off the wheelchair and he started walking toward the following >> active duty US military. Thank you for your service with your ID. We board at this time as well. >> I believe he's a flight attendant got out of flight at 8:14. I stop and talk to the person at the uh take the counter and then wait on her phone. Excuse me. >> Excuse me. >> Excuse me. >> Come on, guys. >> Hello. >> To hold the line up. >> I think I need this. this guy. >> Yes. You want me to grab him? >> I need a seat. >> Is he working this flight? >> Uhhuh. >> Awesome. >> So now your thievery and your selfishness is going to at minimum get this flight delayed cuz they got to replace you because you wanted to steal a bag at your job, too. Hey. >> Yeah. We're going to need to step out here. >> Actually, you got anything? Any belongings? >> Yeah. >> Like this book? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You need it right now? >> Yeah. I need that book bag. >> He's waiting up there. >> I'll be right back. >> It recorded what? >> He only stopped me and said, "You're down here." He said he was looking for a book bag. >> We can't have uh We have to have another lifestyle. Well, I I'm not uh concerned about that, but you're going to have to come up here with me. >> Sure. >> What's your name? Let me see your ID. >> Let me take it off so I can have it. Take it off your neck so I can have your layer. >> Hey. >> Okay. So tell me what uh what happened here. What's your name? Vern. >> Yes, my name's Vern. >> Vern. >> How you doing, sir? >> Okay. What happened here? >> Well, sir, I saw unattended bag um and I was going to present it to the gate agent when he was done boarding because it was where like nobody. So, you're going to take you're going to take an unattended bag that you don't know what's in it and you're going to take it onto a plane that's going somewhere with all these people on it. >> No, sir. I >> Right. And and Oh my god. The dumbest excuse for someone employed at an airline to make if you're stealing you. You found an un not I mistook it for my bag. You know, that's still not going to get you anywhere. But you're just saying you wanted to take a random bag not knowing what's on it. Sir, whether it happens or not, you know these things are scanned for explosives and other things like that and you going to risk somebody's life. Let that be the one that has something on there. That's just so dumb. It's stupid. It's very dumb. And then he acts like he's security and he knows what to do when checking an unattended bag. You had no reason to have this bag in your possession. You point it out. you keep moving. You you know they have training, you know, like you just you you sound crazy. >> Did check the bag. It was secure, but I wasn't able to talk to the gate agent. >> As far as about the bag, I still had to do my checks and stuff like that. I wasn't going to do anything with the bag or anything like that. I was making sure that it that it was all right. But I did do the check before I did my checks. I checked the bag. It was secure. But I was waiting on the gate agent to make sure that um I spoke to them, >> but I wasn't trying to do anything with it or even give me your regular driver's license, your ID. >> Sure. >> Where are you from? >> I'm from Florida. >> Hey, Roy. Yeah, I got them. I'm down here at 8:14. Um, >> sir. >> No, I'm I'm on uh on the inside here, >> sir. As I was walking to the gate area, I saw >> Yeah. Tell somebody else your dumb lie so they can try to believe this stupidity. Okay. >> Unattended bag. This bag right here. And >> here's a situation. >> Like it was nothing as far as >> he's from Florida. >> Weapons or anything. >> They don't have anyone else for this flight. >> Well, I didn't get this to speak to the gate agent. I wait until we secure and stuff like that and give it right back to the gate agent. But it was unsecure. I took it. There's nothing inside that's um harmful or anything like that. I wasn't going to do anything with it. >> Well, hopefully take care of >> it. Yeah. >> Uh I took it on the plane with it. >> Um >> Yes, sir. After I did my checks. >> Let me see if we can get this back to this guy real quick. Excuse us. Why? Why don't you have it have go over here with him? >> Okay. >> Well, I see this guy can check his bag and >> so he can get on his flight. >> Alan. >> Hey, where's he at? >> First things first. Why don't you go Why don't you go through here and check and see what's what's missing if there's any. >> And thank goodness he was spotted and that that man actually got his bag back cuz so many times you're not going to get your stuff back. Hopefully his passport and stuff is in there. >> This is stolen. Okay. Oh my god. Okay, so wait. Wow. Wait. Everything is there. Everything's >> baby. Count your blessings. It's there. >> Everything's there. >> Okay. Can I give you a hug, man? >> Hey, sure, man. >> All right. Now, >> the victim didn't end up pressing charges and said he won't be back to that airport anytime soon. >> Press charges. But I get it. If he's not going to be in that state, it's really hard to come back for court. So, I get why he probably didn't press charges. But here's the thing, too. On the vict No, you know what? They called it an unattended bag, but I don't know if it was unattended from the time. All he did was go through security. And I think that maybe it was when he was going through security, the flight attendant might have took his bag. But if he left it unattended, like while you're waiting at the gate, sir, they always say, "Don't leave your bags unattended." That's a that's an easy theft and that's an easy way to blame you if something is later put in your bag and you done found out you a drug meal or something. So don't leave your bag unattended if that's what you did. But if you went through security and that man swiped that bag that fast, that's not on you. Don't leave your bags unattended. Um, this is not that flight attendant's first time stealing. So, I just they gonna have to review some footage on him or do something. But he he ain't working there no more. I know that. There's no way I would hope they don't let him work there anymore. Yeah, he was a he was a flight attendant. Um, well, the one that stole the bag was a flight attendant. Frontier Airlines. Okay. So, um, I should have said this earlier, but if you don't like commentary, the links will be in the description box, so you can just watch the videos without any commentary, but I'm here for the ones that want to hear a little bit of little bit of seasoning in there. Not too much, you know. Okay, so next one up for people that stole from their job, we have a Instacart shopper that also has a dumb excuse. Doesn't make any sense. Apparently, she has a twin that she's going to blame it on, but okay, here we go. >> Steal from them. I don't know why they think I did, but I didn't steal from them. After we shop, the receipts disappear. We can't pull it back up. It's not the first time someone has watched us >> cuz my twin sister, she steals, and she looks exactly like me. We're identical twins. >> On July 2nd, 2023, officers patrolling the area stopped upon noticing an individual who matched the description of a female involved in a shoplifting incident. >> Hi there. Officer German, Lazy Police Department. You're being audio video recorded. You exactly match a female that was described involved in a theft ated safe. >> I didn't steal from them. I don't know why they think I did, but I didn't steal from them. >> So, where's the guy you were with? >> We got in a fight because of them and he left. So, I'm waiting for my sister. >> So, supposedly he has a shopping cart full of stuff. Does he live at College Glenn? >> No, I don't live here. >> Where would he be? >> I don't really work here. >> Where do you work? >> Huh? I work for Instacart. I was literally doing my Instacart and I picked up a few things for myself. >> Okay. So, who is he? my husband or my fiance. >> Okay. And so would he have stolen from Safeway a bunch of stuff? >> No, we literally did my cart. Yeah. >> Did you pay for everything? >> Yes. Instant I don't have any of my stuff on me. >> You have a phone? >> Yeah. I don't have any phone. >> Do you Instacart have the record of that? The purchase and everything. The stuff you're purchasing for your business. Do you have ID? >> No. I don't have any of my stuff on me. >> What's your first name? >> Have you ever had an ID out of Washington? >> No. >> You Where would it be out of? It's all Oh, only out of Washington. I thought >> Yeah, I know. >> I'll give you a second to pull that. >> After we shop, the receipts disappear. We can't pull it back up. >> That's weird. >> Why would the receipts disappear after you shop? >> I would like to know from anyone that has done Instacart on the shopper side. Do the receipts disappear? Because I feel like that would protect you. I don't The address, the customer's in information might disappear, but would the receipt disappear? >> I don't know. for my uh Door Dash and my other stuff. >> Carly. >> Hey, Carly. So, here's the deal. They're going to be sending me a picture of the person that they are accusing the shoplift. >> Yeah. No, they're accusing me of shoplifting, but I wasn't shoplifting. >> You paid for the stuff? >> Yes, I paid for my stuff. I always I literally come in here multiple times a day. Why would I shoplift? >> I literally have to work out of here >> at the same time. Why would they claim that you and another male are >> shopping? I don't know. because I had a full cart of stuff when I went to the bathroom and then I went and got >> But would then the the uh >> checkers be able to say like, "Oh yeah, she just came through." >> Use bags either. >> Why would you? >> No, I don't use bags. >> Why wouldn't you use bags? >> I never do use bags because it costs money. >> You see, like nothing. It cost like cents >> cents on the dollar. >> When you don't have a lot of money, you don't keep >> Yeah, but you get understand. I have >> But you you Wow, she just covered you on 33. I have the um the fridge bags in my car and that's it. >> What is your husband's name? >> I don't see Instacart shoppers shopping without a bag. I know if she they said maybe they're in Washington state or DC. I don't know because I know they charge you for bags in DC. Um but you then wouldn't you just come with your fridge bags and your whatever uh cloth bags when you shop. You still would have bags in the buggy cuz you could easily identify yourself as an Instacart shopper. So even if you don't buy their plastic bags, you No, that sounds stupid to me. >> Who was with you then? >> Daniel, >> what' you say? >> Nothing. They just helped me get my $2. That's it. >> When did you exactly pay for the stuff? before I went to the bathroom or a before I went to the bathroom and then I went and got my Starbucks after I used the bathroom. >> Cuz they're saying that they had eyes on you fulltime or anything. >> I literally Yeah, they watched me walk from where I paid, walked to the bathroom, and then got my Starbucks. >> I literally >> They weren't ever telling like, "Hey, stop." >> No, they didn't tell me to stop. >> Cuz I saw people coming out of the store and trying to call >> when they followed me out of the store after I left. Why would they do that if you paid? >> I don't know. They literally talked to me when I left and said that you didn't pay for your stuff. I'm like, I did. >> So, why would you stay and sort that out? >> I did stay. I was literally on the sidewalks and I kept calling my husband looking for him. >> But they literally called us saying that you walked off with product. >> No, he I talked to the guy in the blue shirt. He talked to me. I said I didn't steal anything. And he said okay. And he walked back inside and then walked I guess they walked back out with other people. But I did talk to the guy with the blue shirt and he talked to me. I said, "I didn't." He said, >> "Did you steal the stuff in the car?" I'm like, "No, I didn't. I did my Instacart and I did my grocery shopping." >> How did you pay for the product? >> Like, did you go through that the stuff that you buy? Did you go through the check? You go to the quick check? Like, what do you do? >> Aisle two. >> You went through aisle two? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, if we got a hold of them and checked with that cashier, she'd be like, "Oh, yeah. She went through and she purchased everything. >> I don't know. It might not be the same cashier. You just It doesn't >> What are the chances in 10 minutes it's a different cashier? >> Yeah, it probably >> I'm totally with the exasperation of this officer and then the one in the background laughing at the stupid lie. I just noticed he is cheesing right now. This sounds so dumb. You really thought you going to get away with this and then you steal it and got Starbucks? Girl, come on, man. Priorities. That means you're not even, it's not, you know, out of necessity or anything. You're just out here stealing the steel. >> Is the same cashier. >> I tell you what, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and I will call them. >> Okay. >> You're not free to go right now. >> You guys walking right out here? >> No, I'm not walking. We got in a fight because of this. >> He's not grocery shopping because they're saying that we stole. That's why we got in a fight. >> So, you just said that you walked out the door. They didn't say anything. Now, >> no, I walked out the store by myself. >> Uhhuh. And then I talked to the guy with the blue shirt on, the manager, and he said, "Why did you steal all that stuff?" I said, "I didn't steal all that stuff." And he walked back in the store and then I left because I can't get a hold of my husband. It was Instacart and my own stuff. >> Separately. Yeah. >> But there's no record of that on your phone. >> No, it doesn't show the receipt of Instacart. like all the other ones, Door Dash that I do and then Uber, they >> I already had people here on the Instacart side that said you lying cuz of course you should be able to still see the receipt after. That would make sense to me. You got to protect yourself from being falsely accused possibly. So yes, I thank y'all for confirming that. Um also I want to know about what's on her receipt that she said the items she got for herself cuz that receipt's probably looking real thin too. show the receipt of the food items afterwards. Ours doesn't because it's the privacy policy because we do prescriptions as well. It all disappears. Usually they have like an itemized sandwich. >> No, it doesn't have that anymore cuz I even looked and I've never been able to find other things. I just started two weeks ago. So, do you guys >> So, now we're moving on to It for sure doesn't have it to I mean, I just started 2 weeks ago, so I don't know where to find it. Mhm. >> Live around here. Is he going to Is he coming to like, you know, I waited for my sister? We live in Aberine. I would come up here because Instacart is not really good down there. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like the business is good over here. Yeah. My sister was doing it for a while and so she is the same thing. Like she would go to like other areas and she'd be like, "There's nothing going on." >> Yeah. You have to find the bigger areas to go in then when it's busier at certain times is what we do. >> Does your sister live in Lacy? >> Huh? >> Does your sister live in Lacy? >> My older sister lives in Lacy. >> Okay. So, she's not too far then. >> Well, I haven't got a hold of anyone yet. That's why I'm walking towards >> Oh, does she live in this neighborhood? >> Not No, she lives way off of the highway. >> Oh gosh. >> They don't have a receipt. >> I don't have anything on my >> She says she doesn't have anything on. >> I do have a receipt. It was in my wallet. Like, you could literally see it. >> Well, then where's he at? Why would he run off? Sorry, >> he didn't run off. >> Where is he? >> We got in a fight. >> About what? >> About them saying that we were stealing. >> Why would you guys get in a fight about them saying you're stealing and then why would he leave? >> Because that's embarrassing. It's really embarrassing. >> To the point that he would just leave you. >> Yeah. >> Wow. Didn't know the lies could get more dumb. >> Is that the first time? >> Huh? >> I can't even get a hold. >> Oh, you've gone a half hour back already. 128. >> Okay. Yeah. If you don't see him coming through the stand at this point and that's once she claims she came through, I think we're pretty good there. >> Yeah. If you want to just work on the footage in any case, uh so I can use it for you. >> All right. Sounds good. >> Thank you. All right. Bye. >> All right. I tell you what, I'll give you a chance to talk even more if you'd like. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You understand each of these rights I've explained to you. >> Having these rights in mind, do you wish to talk to me further? >> I didn't do anything. >> Do you want to talk to me? Yes or no? >> That's fine. >> Is that a yes? You're willing to talk to me for further? No. Okay. So, she's saying I just talked to the manager. She's saying that they've been looking through the footage and they don't show you guys going through checkand 2. >> They have cameras. >> I think it was checkand 2. It was one of the last check stands. >> Okay. It just your story just doesn't make sense to me. So, okay, tell me your story again and I'll see if it makes sense to me. >> I literally >> She is not going to remember those lies. They're they're dumb. They were on the fly. They don't You can't even get them in sequence to make sense. >> Checked out by items from one of the end side of the things cuz that's where we were parked. >> Which side? Cuz there's kind of like an east side, the west side and the east side. >> So, we're parked on the second. >> Those are Starbucks. No, closer to the other end to >> towards college. The road here. >> Yeah. Okay. >> But I had to use the bathroom after I checked out. So, I went to the bathroom and then I went and got Starbucks. >> Oh, well, I think we found uh was it Daniel? Was No, that was his middle, wasn't it? No, Daniel. >> This person. >> Yeah, think we found Daniel. Okay. So anyways, you're saying >> and then I went to the bathroom and then I went to Starbucks, got my drink, and then we left. >> Where did the So you purchased all your stuff and you left the cart outside of the bathroom. >> Yeah. With my husband. >> Mhm. And then he went >> I know. And then he went and got something else and did selfch checkckout. >> So he got something separate. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So how come And we work with the Safeway a bit. You know, they I've never had them call in anything bogus. They call in saying something that matches your description and then we they send us photos of you guys. >> No, I know. >> And they said, "You guys stole a cart full of stuff." They don't just call in bogus stuff typically. >> I understand, but they could have mistakes. I didn't steal anything. >> But you have no way to prove that you didn't. >> You're saying he has all your stuff. You You said you do Instacart. I know that stuff's tracked online, right? When you purchase stuff. >> I can't I don't >> And you can't even access your card to show that you just had a purchase. How did you buy it? Cash. No, I use the the Instacart card. >> Yeah. So, won't there be a record of that? >> No, that's a thing. It doesn't track. I just started this. I don't know how. >> You said that's your job and you've been doing it when I first talked to you. You said you do it. >> I just started it. >> How long you been doing it? >> Two weeks. I did Uber before that and then I did Door Dash before that. >> You see how I'm saying this just doesn't seem like it really matches up. >> I want to check each lie. So, the cameras are already being pulled. I love that the cameras are being pulled in real time. Love when they do that. Um, I want you I want her to pull up her Instacart shopper account to go back to how far to see how far do those dates go when she legitimately did probably do a couple of shopping. You know what I mean? Cuz I feel like she's had that app for a long time. And then when that when that female cop was talking to her and they were talking about, yeah, you got to go to the bigger cities to get more, you know, more uh movement, right? I'm like, she's picking the busy stores to try to go unnoticed. This not her first time. She was always going to be like, "If I get caught, I'm saying I was doing Instacart, blah blah blah." Go back and see how long she's had her Instacart account. I want to know all the details. >> I was so stupid. >> Does Daniel usually use uh fentanyl? >> No. >> Well, cuz we think we found him and they just had to use Narcan on him. >> Dang, girl. Daniel over there overdosing. They they over here administering Narcan. Yeah, it did sound like druggy activity though. It did. The stupid lies and the logic was horrible. I'm not surprised. Hopefully Daniel don't die, but I am not surprised. >> Huh? >> They just had to use Narcan on him. >> Where? >> Just down the way here. >> Uh somebody else then. >> I guess that is somebody else then. So anyway, so then you guys got in an argument when So the the staff were like, "Hey, you guys are stealing. What happened?" >> He just left. I said, >> "What did you say to the staff?" >> Huh? >> What did you say to the staff? >> The staff let he came up to me. He's like, "Why did you steal the staff?" That's all they said to me. And then he went back inside. >> Daniel did? >> No, the You said the staff? >> Yeah, staff. >> Yeah, the staff went back inside. I was waiting for him outside, but we got in a fight before the other guy came out, so he probably just left me and I couldn't play the car. >> You said that you got in a fight because they accuse you of stealing. Yeah, >> but you said they accuse you of stealing when you're outside. >> No. Yeah. No, cuz they were watching us. We literally said they were watching us. >> Why would they be watching you if they didn't think you >> I don't know. It's not the first time someone has watched us. >> Cuz my twin sister, she steals and she looks exact. >> Okay. Uh uh uh uh. I know we already brought the twin sister alibi in. So, you're telling me not only does your twin s twin sister still like you? Y'all have maintained the exact weight, exact hairstyle, exact outfit of the day, she would happen to be in Safeway, although you're shopping out of town cuz you're looking for the busier places and she would be in that exact store stealing while you were legitimately shopping. Stop it. >> Exactly like me. We're identical twins. And does she shop at that Safeway and they know her? >> I don't know. >> Okay. Where does she work? >> She doesn't work anywhere. >> Okay. Well, or around. Is she around this area? >> Yeah, she's in this area. >> Okay. But based on who's your twin sister, >> Carrie? >> Her name's Carrie. Okay. Well, based on what I'm seeing and what I'm hearing everything, I got >> I would be like, "Show me a picture of your twin, you and your twin sister together in a picture on your phone." I'm not saying that would help prove anything. We got too much AI now anyway. But I just want to even see that she go that far with a lie. Like I need all of this. >> Have to arrest you for theft at this point. So I need you turn around. Put your hands behind your back. >> I didn't do anything though. >> At this point it'll be up to the court to figure out. >> Face the car. Wind your stance. You have anything on? Wind your stance. Then just take like a half step back so there's a little space. You have anything on you that would poke stickers at me. And so you have no idea where Daniel is right now. >> Okay. Let me buckle you up real quick. I'll try and give him a call and see if we can find out where he's at and maybe he can tell us. >> I think he lost his phone. >> How would he have lost his phone? >> I don't know. We haven't been able to find it. I can't get a hold of him at all. >> Did he have it before? >> No, because Jamie, let's not skip over that cuz you're right. He was like, h seems like they found Daniel with fel. He overdosed. Anyway, he's kind of dead. He He's just like over. He did kind of just anyways that whole situation. Jamie >> or all this? >> I don't know. >> You don't know? >> No, I don't know. >> Okay. All right. Hang tight. What her name is? She said her name is Carly Ray Morgan. >> What' you say her twin sister name? >> She said her name is Carly. I was like Carly. >> Yeah, >> it looks like her in the photo. >> But she does have a twin sister. >> Oh, true. >> So, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think you're being super truthful with me with this whole situation. Is there a chance? Well, you told me your twin sister's name is Carly. >> Carrie? >> You said her name was Carly. >> I told her name was Carrie. I told you my name was Carly. >> So, are you Carly or are you Carrie? >> I'm Carly. >> Okay. So, what's her full name then? Cuz I want to make sure I have the right sister. >> Carrie and Morgan. >> Is that Carrie with a K? >> C. >> C I E. >> Wait, Carrie. I mean, her name is C I E. No. C A R R I E. >> Yeah. C A R R I E. Okay. What's her middle? >> A. >> And what's her last? >> Morgan. >> Morgan. What's her date of birth? >> 91486. >> Okay. So, she gave me her. >> If she's your twin, y'all should have the same birthday. So, I wonder if that's her birthday. Also, I This another reason I can't be a police officer. I can't deal with obvious lies. I'm not going to waste my uh pen and ink writing down your lies that I don't believe. Although I know I'm supposed to still take notes about it. I would hate that you're wasting my time and I have to write this down. >> Their sisters, Aman, obviously they are twins and they look very similar, but I think it's probably The other one's clear, too. This is the twin car. She's Carly. >> Gotcha. >> Yeah. Carly and Carrie. >> Carrie doesn't have her eyebrow pierces or pierces. >> Gotcha. Well, if Carrie don't have her eyebrow pierced and they see you on the camera with your eyebrow pierced stealing, we're done. Carrie, Carly, whoever doesn't exist, it doesn't matter. Okay. Dollar Tree manager caught stealing $5,700 cash in first week on the job. Y'all sent this one to me, too. So, the thumbnail one y'all sent to me and y'all sent me this one. This one's more we got to hear the breakdown for when they finally go question her. So stick with us on this one. But I'm just like, and then y'all, when the cop did question her, I thought she was going to stick with the lie, she she kind of rolled over. But okay, let's go ahead and start. First, we got to hear how she stole, then we'll get to her. >> This is 43-year-old Nellan Mark. On August 21st, 2024, Boon Beach police responded to a call from Dollar Tree in reference to a store manager caught stealing cash bank deposits. The investigation finds that Miss Mark has stolen six deposits totaling almost $6,000 in her first week on the job after completing 5 weeks of training. Watch what happens when detectives confront Mrs. Mark with the evidence and the interrogation tactics they use to finally reveal the truth. Now, the interrogation tactics phrase is funny to me. Well, you know what? They did use a tactic. I'm just surprised the tactic worked. They did use a tactic, though. And Okay, never mind. Let's keep going. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Oh, thank you. You're um you can come with me. have crystal anyway. >> We'll talk about it when we're done. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Okay. So, tell me what happened. So, um I get an email like we verify when we're in our stores our deposits, but usually our treasury department finds like a missing deposit before us. Like within a week they'll flag on an email telling us that it hasn't been validated through the bank. So, I started to receive emails. Um quickly it was like two, then it became three, it was four. Um right now I'm I have six um and it's going to be six in total. this store manager, she had just started here on July 29th. It was her first day in the store. So like she trained with us for five weeks at another location. Um and came here by 84 I'm missing my first deposit. So July 29th she started at this location. >> Yeah. >> And then um you said she trained for 5 weeks at another location. >> Yeah. Um but like in the capacity of manager. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So she was >> But was she with the company before? >> No. >> Okay. So she got hired in brought in as a manager and then she was training. >> Yeah. So she finished her. >> So this was like the first time being solo. >> Yes. Alone. Unattended. Right. >> By Wednesday. I came in here to the store to meet with her and my asset protection manager um came and met us as well to discuss what was going on with the deposits with her. >> So she said she took all these deposits to the bank that they're all going to be in the bank. She's very mildtempered, not really getting upset easily. Um >> so that was on the 14th on the Wednesday you came in on Wednesday. >> So you did like a little investigation and then on Wednesday you met with her. >> Yeah. >> Okay. With along with asset protection. Okay. And so you guys discussed it with her. >> Yeah. >> So she knows. >> Yes, she knows. >> Okay. So and and then I'm sorry. So then what did she say to you guys? >> She was very like she was very mildtempered. I mean she wasn't argumentative. She wasn't anything. She wasn't riled up or any there was just very calm. And so I took them to the bank. Like I signed them out. I took them all to the bank. They're all going to be at the bank. And you know even after he left I continued to talk to her a little bit oneonone like maybe you changed purses or bags that you brought to work. Don't you want to go check your car? Double check. Like if you were taking multiples at a time, one could slide out at a red light. Double check. And she's like, I know they're not in there. Like I took them to the bank. And she's just very confident, but not really >> doesn't care to help or look or, you know, do anything for it as far as that. And even like the day before because I was um across town, I sent the man at the store manager that trained her. She's right up the road. So, I sent her on Tuesday to meet with this store manager and go over the deposits and I had her staff at the bank, see if there was anything going on. And she was very, you know, casual with her, really not too worried about it. Um, the biggest red flag for me right away was that store manager stressed to her like, "Okay, you're coming in tomorrow. You're scheduled at 12:00, meaning Wednesday. Um, make sure you go to the bank before you go to your store cuz you need to resolve where your missing deposits are. they should be validated by the bank right away the next day. You need to talk to a bank manager and not a teller. Um, find out what's going on. So, she didn't know we were going to be in her store on Wednesday, but like she came walking in with a bag of McDonald's. Didn't care. I asked her, "Hey, did you go to the bank before you came here?" >> And that was on Tuesday. >> Oh, no. On Wednesday, like when I was physically in the store with her, >> but she was supposed to go there on Tuesday to >> She was supposed to go Wednesday like before she came in cuz she came in at 12:00 on Wednesday. So, she she doesn't even go to the bank at that point. So in my head I'm like, well, you don't want to go talk to the bank because you know they don't really have the deposits, right? So >> yeah, >> otherwise why not go and try to find out where you're >> and is the policy to like every night go and deposit like >> Yes, they're supposed not to hold on to it like you can't hold on to it till the next day. >> Did y'all see that one lady? I don't have it saved, but I can put it back in the rotation um if y'all see it or if I find it in my history. Did y'all see that one lady that stole from her job but set it up like she was robbed, but it was her son and her friends that she planned to make it look like she was robbed. Like they wouldn't see her on the cameras and how everything look real fake. Did y'all see that one? That one was crazy, too. This woman and and and she is the way that this other lady that's talking right now is describing how casual that the lady is about it. That's exactly how she did come across. I was waiting to see her when I first watched it. I was like, wow. What did you you real casual with this stealing and thinking people are going to believe that, oh, they just didn't properly train me excuse and stuff. >> I can't keep four deposits and then >> Yeah. So, technically, they should be taking them daily, right? Um and if the person that's closing at night doesn't have a vehicle or isn't able to go to the bank, then we would take them right away the next morning. So, for whatever reason, she was skipping days right away of not going to the bank each day and then taking multiples. >> And um I mean, do you know anything about any prior like work history or where she came from? Know anything about this person? >> Um I I mean, we do a background check. I don't see the result of that like the other HR department would see the results. All I know is if they pass or fail. So, she passed the background check and that's how she was able to come on board. She stated that she was the store manager of what is it across the street. Maybe a deed's discount of City Trends. Okay. I think maybe that's what it was. But she was the store manager of City Trends across the street. >> Um so I think that's where she came from previous to working here. But no, she worked with me for a very short time. So I don't know much about her at that point. >> Mhm. Um, >> and no, um, no issues that you're aware of like from her time in training or anything? >> No. >> Okay. >> So, she's writing on this report what day she goes to the bank. So, those are the days that we've created the deposit. So, then what we're saying is they sat in the in the safe for a couple days. So, this is the day that the computer where somebody physically created the deposit, but these are the dates that she's saying that she actually went to the bank and dropped them off and the time. So that's how she's taking or accumulating multiples because it's like a couple days built up before we're going to the bank to drop them off. >> That's what it is. >> So she admitted to taking them all. She told me about what time she went to the bank and each day and because obviously she's confident they're going to see her on the camera because I have each day some deposits that get validated cuz then this is where I write in like that it's validated from the bank after that. >> Um But >> these these ones that are missing that are not validated are missing. >> Yes. Yeah. So when I had partnered with the bank um I went through and tried to see if um like any of the bag the deposit bag numbers were processed just to see if maybe there was just a completely wrong amount that was deposited, anything like that. So they printed me a copy of what had been deposited since the I think the 5th till like the day I received the paper and they don't like those deposit bags aren't there and the amounts aren't there. So looks like I'm and that's what I got from the bank yesterday. So, I've been like dealing with the bank this whole time just trying to make sure before we filed a police report. And when I like when I talked to Melon about this situation, like at first there was 10. Well, not that hit my reporting yet, but when I came in here, like I still was missing and that's why these are all highlighted. Like at the time when I'm coming to talk to her, like even these are missing. And I mean, she just spent the whole time like looking at this and she's like, "Well, these are there." Like these these are there. I know. I just took these on Monday. Like so she focused more on these. And I'm still missing one from this group, right? So, she took four. I got three back. Three validated by the bank and I'm missing um the largest one of those. Um but like that's all she was like focused on. And I was like, "Okay, well, I'm talking to you about 10. So, I need to know that all 10 went missing. Even if I had one missing at this point, it would be a problem, right?" So, >> like I would try to like redirect direct the conversation. She was just focused on that day and I was like, "Oh, shoot." She probably took my deposits. That's never happened. I worked for Dr. Tree for 20 years. I've never hired somebody who just not at that role. Like I could have some other assistant managers who get paid a lot less that maybe have taken something right away, but not a store manager. >> So, it's different for me. But I guess >> she wasn't uh she just was not emotional about it at all or just not showing any sort of >> Yeah. Like it's just so nonchalant like the bank. Like it's serious and my asset protection said like I'm going to be here Friday to call the police if these deposits don't get to the bank. And she was still just very casual and like she showed up for work. So I thought, you know, it maybe they're going to show up or she's going to pay him back and get them into the bank quickly something. But >> so on that Wednesday after that conversation, was that when she was placed on like leave or what? What was the >> So, I came I came on Friday and put her on. >> Okay. So, when she showed up for her shift, that's when she was placed on the 16th. >> Yeah. On Friday the >> 16th. Yeah. So, I met her in like the afternoon and >> um >> And is she like suspended with pay, without pay? >> With without pay. >> Okay. Obviously, we have to ask you, does the company want to prosecute? >> Yes. Okay. All right. Raise your right hand for me. >> You swear affirm that everything that you told me, everything that we spoke about is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Yes. Okay. >> After detectives speak with the bank, get subpoenas, and complete their investigation, Nell comes in for an interview a couple months later. >> Been in one of these rooms before? >> No. >> Okay. You ever seen on TV? 48. >> You know you're in a good room when you're in the big room. So, we're in the big room now. We're in the lobby. We appreciate you coming by to help us figure something out. >> No problem. >> Yeah. At this point, honestly, we're just trying to close it out. Um just trying to figure out what happened. Um Dollar Tree was concerned about some of their money and that's why we're we're involved. Okay. So, you know what he's talking about? >> Yeah. My um >> I guess Yeah. She had told cuz she had asked me today, can anybody reach out to me? I told her no until now. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, uh when did you actually start working there? Um thinking June for training. >> June. >> That one story. Yeah. >> And it wasn't at that location, right? >> No. >> Okay. So, you get there at June and then what happened when uh when did you start working over at the the local one over here? >> Well, I did like five weeks in training. So, I probably didn't start there maybe today. Maybe end of July, I'm thinking. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, at the end of July, you start working there? >> I think. Yeah. >> And what was your like job title over there? >> A store manager. >> Nice. Right. from the get-go. >> Training. Well, I mean, >> that's pretty good. Yeah, >> I trained. I mean, I told myself, "Okay, well, I'm get into Dollar Tree to start." But, you know, it >> You told yourself you going to get to Dollar Tree, be a store manager, and steal immediately because I'm pretty sure, yeah, first week on the job, you were stealing. >> It was It was different from what I was >> prior experience. Yeah. >> Yeah. Especially the store that he gave me. So, >> that's the boy story, right? Oh, yeah. Okay. Sorry for that. Mhm. >> Typical bullying. That's how we get down there. >> And then everyone in there barely spoke English. So, >> yes, >> that makes it difficult. >> Um, yes. So, she was talking about I guess it was six different deposits. What happened with those? Do you do you know which ones they are? >> Um, >> no. >> I guess like August 3rd, 4th, two on the fourth, one on the 5th, 7th, and 10. >> Do you know what happened? Did you deposit the the one she was talking about? Like I like I told her, I say whatever deposit they leave in the safe. I think because apparently >> the one manager, okay, cuz to me, I'm not used to pick taking deposits and take to the bank. So this is my first time ever doing something like that. >> And then when I go to the bank, the teller say I have to drop it in a dropbox. Even though they're there, but I have to drop it in the dropbox. >> Okay. >> So, and there's no care or nothing. So basically just pull and drop everything in there. So the days that I'm so from between from the weekends for Friday, Friday I leave from Saturday. So their deposits there from the I guess from the mid managers the night and then Sundays I'm off. So by the time I come Monday, it'll be multiple deposits in the safe. Okay. >> Which I heard the night manager supposed to drop. She doesn't go drop it. So basically I have to take them and go drop them in the night deposit which I truly >> This really sounds like a typical job description for a manager. Like, yeah, you make deposits. That's normal. You're saying it like, I can't believe they expected me to drop it off. And Dropbox or not, it doesn't matter. You didn't drop off those deposits except into your own bank account. Do like I told Crystal, I said, "Well, I don't know. You know, y'all giving me a store one. Every I mean, most everybody don't speak English. Nobody's dropping nothing." I come my first day, there was already five bags in the safe. So, and then yet we have to sign. Majority of them don't sign. So, basically I'm signing cuz I'm taking everything. Like I told I take everything I drop in a sec in the in the night deposit. I don't know nothing else. This is my first time. Okay. You know that's what we're see you know if y'all see me in the camera. Okay. Like I told her, check the bank camera. Like I don't know. >> This is my first time. So I don't know what was the deal. What's going on? What's missing? But, you know, like I told her, >> see, I think because she keeps leaning on this they didn't speak English thing. I think she thought it was going to be just convoluted because she's trying to say everybody just sign for everything, but they're not actually doing the steps they sign for is how I'm taking it. But you could count it while you're there and raise a red flag like, "Hey, I'm counting this behind them." And this is my first night and I'm telling y'all this money is not adding up to what they're saying it is. But you're not cuz you don't No one expects you to sign without also counting. It should be like I guess at least two different checks of people counting if not more levels. So that's on you. But I think she was going to lean on it was confusion. Nobody else I work with spoke English and they're just signing things. You are the depositor. You had to do better. >> You can search my car. You can search, you know, I don't you know. >> No, you you came running. You said how can I help? >> I'm a new person, you know. I just started this is I never had this issue. Never had this problem. I worked for state trans for 5 years. Like I never had issue. I've been work as a store manager. I never dealt with nothing with money. I don't steal money. Why would I take your money? >> Apparently, either you didn't have money problems back then when you worked for that other company or like you said, since they didn't have you depositing money, you didn't have the opportunity to steal yet. And now they're throwing money apparently at you at Dollar Tree and you did steal >> store. Now y'all taking deposit if they're sitting there is an issue. So basically I have to sign a a log which I don't know from previous people whoever whatever issue they had previous from the other managers. All I told her I just take put everything together and drop in the thing and that's it. >> You know, I don't I don't know anything else. So, they basically let me go because of my me because of my name of the log. That's pretty much it on the That's what she told me. They just going to go ahead and let me go for it. >> What terminated? They >> Yeah. When she they gave me a suspension and then she finally said they made a decision to let me know cuz I had written wrote my name on the log. >> Oh, that's weird. >> Yeah. >> So, here's the log that I guess we got. I know it's kind of hard to see. >> Yeah. So, you deposited these, but you're saying you dropped them off in like a drop box outside the bank in the Yeah. >> All right. Um, yes. So, I spoke with Crystal. They still don't have any of the deposit slips from from those times. That's why we're just trying to get it figured out. >> How long's it been though? Since this happened this August. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. So, they should have got everything. >> They should. Yeah. >> If they count like $1 at a time, they should have it done. >> She was saying Yeah. She was saying they were waiting for back from the bank. I don't know. They were wait I don't know. >> Yeah. So, I I ended up speaking with the bank as well. We ended up doing subpoenas from the bank. um because they're >> and that right there is why I believe it took the couple of months cuz they got subpoenas. They not playing with her. They already have the answers to their questions. And I would have to say I would think because of how dumb she is and she's playing this that whatever the deposit amount was for from Dollar Tree. She deposited the exact amount down to the penny probably into her personal bank account. >> Independent. They have nothing to do with this. They'll tell us whether or not they got the money. And the bank is saying they didn't get the money either. >> I don't know. I don't know. It's whatever deposit slip they had in the safe. I just grabbed like from which if you see if it's two signatures or whatever it is and then I put in the in in the deposit in the thing. That's it. >> Okay. Where's the where's the deposit on that on that bank? It's the Teresa what 100 Congress, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Cuz is there cuz with the teller and then there's a box right here. You open it and you just >> That's only the inside of the bank. >> No, it's outside at the drive-thru. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Um, what if I said there was no there's no camera footage of you at the bank dropping them off? >> Would that be weird? >> It would be. I mean, as a bank, it should have cameras. >> Mhm. >> Especially in the drive-thru. >> There was cameras. There was scammers at the store, of course, cuz they got it like focused right on the on the on the safe. And has you taken the money like you said you did like you found out? >> Girl, of course there's a camera focus on the safe. That's smart. Should be. The bank is definitely has cameras. I would think at their dropbox. I I would think they do. I don't know. I don't remember that part if they do. But to never have a record of your car going to the bank and actually dropping something off is crazy to me. That's so crazy. Um, okay. We're just trying to make it make sense. >> But in the drivethru, if you pull up and drive through the tell, they should have cameras outside so they can see what cars are in that drive-thru. >> Are you are you getting out of the car to put them in the car? >> Oh, I know. I pull up. No, in the car. I say in the car. I don't have to get out. Yeah. >> In the car that you're going is just your um the one that's I guess registered to you. >> Which car do you have right now? >> The white car, which is my husband's car. >> Okay. Which car did you have in August when when this happened? Was it the same white car? >> It's It's going to be either the white Yeah, white car or then there's a um red vehicle. Well, those my husband's vehicle. >> All right. So, they'd be under your Which is your vehicle? Was your husband's vehicle? >> It's under my husband's. Yeah. >> Okay. Um Yeah, cuz the next thing I'd want to do is reach out to the bank again and just verify that your car was there just so we can get you completely out of this. >> Yeah. Yeah. I don't Yeah, I don't get out of the vehicle cuz once you pull up, the thing's right there. You just open it, drop and close and go on. >> Okay. Yeah. So, that would be the next step is we asked for the camera footage again of the vehicle and then we should see your vehicle doing the drop boxes on those days around the time that you put Ray. >> Mhm. >> Okay. All right. So, at no point did you take it for like your own personal game? Nothing like that. Right. >> No. >> Okay. >> If I mean you take my back. I don't have any criminal history of me doing anything. I mean, parking speed tickets. I mean, that's everybody, you know, that's everybody. But when it comes to theft, what? That's not me. I don't Yeah, that's why this right here was very shocking to me. Okay. >> To me, I'm like, I don't take anything. I don't, you know, and >> I need that Spongebob meme. 10 minutes later, cuz girl, >> cuz I was training at the other store, they even I even took deposits there and drop at the store when I was at training and nothing was missing. So, to me, this is Yeah. So, what do you think happened here? >> I have I don't know. I have no clue. I don't know. For one manager, she was telling me, you know, it's just like letting me know just be careful in this store. This is pretty much it. Like, man, I don't know why the store managers didn't laugh in that store. I don't know. I I'm just new to Dollar Tree and I never had issues like this. Never had problem like this with money. >> Well, the before we go talk to anybody, of course, we look up, are we dealing with a good guy or a bad guy? Of course, we looked up your history. You're you're a good guy. You came running to come in here to say, "Hey, I'm coming to talk to you guys. My name's busy, but I want to talk to you." >> You could leave at any time, but you're making a a statement trying to help us figure this for a better word crazy situation. >> I mean, the same thing I sat down with with Crystal, you know, with loss prevention. I was in there with, you know, >> and Crystal had nothing but good to say about you. But she said, "We can't figure this out either." >> I can't listen. Like I told her, I said, "I don't know." I told her she could search my vehicle. She's like, "Look, did they bag fell under the car?" I I walked out, we looked, we checking my vehicle. I'm like, "I don't have nothing. I come out. I ain't got no I don't take nothing. I don't you know. >> And who who do you primarily bank with? >> Me I bank with Wells Fargo. >> Mhm. >> And then we have Bank of America with my husband. >> Okay. So if we checked your bank, there shouldn't be anything crazy like these amounts going into your bank, right? >> My account. No, pretty much. Um >> I'm saying just like if we check the if we check the banks, we're not going to see deposits of like these amounts into your bank account, right? >> Oh, the total amount of those. Oh, no. Okay. That was a weird way to answer that question. Oh, the total amounts. You won't see those. Like, no. I was smart enough to either split it up into other amounts. Like, what do you mean? Oh, no. You won't see the total amount. You should see any amount from that. >> Um, no. We appreciate you coming in. Um, that's the next step is getting the camera footage and just verifying that you were actually banking so we can rule out. You know what I mean? >> Okay. >> Um, do you have any any other questions? >> So, Crystal, I mean, I'm I come at the tail end, but I hear his conversation with her. She liked you. This hurt her having to I mean she said you were great. I mean limited time but she said this is we got very lucky having her as a manager. She doesn't know what happened here. >> In the scheme of things this is only like $5,000 or $4,000 or something like that. >> Mhm. >> We're busy and buant we got other things we need to do. If you guys could maybe figure it out amongst yourselves. >> Mhm. >> Maybe you could find that money that got lost and get it back to him. Something like that. Would that >> I mean we'll try. I don't know. I'll talk to Chris. see what whatever it is, you know, >> at this point it kind of >> cuz at the end of the day I understand cuz you know after being received from the store manager and he's signing off. So it's basically like it's like my kind of responsibility at the end of the day cuz >> right and then and then >> the bank is saying that the money didn't arrive. Um >> the bank hasn't reported any thefts or anything from the dropbox. Nothing suspicious. >> We have you on camera taking the money out and then the money disappears. >> In the scheme of things, you have no criminal history. You come in here to say, "Let's go figure this out." >> Mhm. We're not trying to jam you up. >> So, if somehow maybe we can make this right with Crystal and she goes, "Okay, we made this right. I don't want to get her a charge. I don't want to mess her up like that. She's good people." >> Oh, yeah. I definitely don't want to mess up my head. >> Right. >> Cuz you go to apply for another job and then you have a theft charge on you, a felony theft charge, >> and it's probably going to be two felonies with a scheme of defraud and a grand theft. They're going to look at that because they're going to do a background check like they all do. Like you work at McDonald's as a fry guy, they go, "Do you ever have been convicted of felony?" They do a background check, which is easy. Just do it on your >> Yeah. I'm not trying to tarnish my back. Yeah. >> So, if this was a mistake, we all make mistakes. >> Mhm. >> They They got a messed up system. I would get nervous even carrying that money to tell you the truth. >> I don't This is my first I don't know why they even do that. Like they're better off just having like banks come pick up the money instead of having >> You put it all in the safe. >> Yeah. And then they dealing with different type of bank. Each store have a bank. To me, that don't make no sense. But >> they they they put you in a situation basically that that you weren't. >> It kind of doesn't matter if they dealt with 15 different banks. You didn't drop off one deposit to any of the banks. So, it doesn't matter how many banks they had. The deposits never made it >> looking for. >> No. >> And you made a mistake. And mistakes happen. So you made a mistake in this situation and maybe we can make it right with Crystal. I >> mean at the end of the day is you know as being store I mean >> ability I you know >> brainstorm with me so they put you in this situation they should have bricks come by. If they have $5,000 >> it cost them $100 to get Brinks to go pick it up and then you're not out there with money. You're not out there driving your car by yourself >> potentially going to get robbed or whatever those putting people in this situation. So shame on him. Yeah. >> And >> and of course, you know, here's the tactics that they were talking about at the beginning. One, oh yeah, we're on your side. It does sound very confusing. I wouldn't feel great about trying to deposit that money either. Two, you're a good guy. We didn't find anything in your criminal history, so it had to be a mistake. Three, let's lie and say Dollar Tree may not prosecute you if it does come to that uh you did steal it and you admit it and try to get the money back. Dollar Tree was prosecuting that lady. either way. But yes, the tactics and you know, oh, you know, you probably had a good reason >> putting thousands of dollars in people's hands, which is a lot of money >> in the scheme of things. A lot of not a lot of money to them, but it's a lot of money to me and you. >> Yeah. >> Um, so they're they're they're setting themselves up for failure. >> You're a good person. >> You made a mistake. >> Is there a way we can get this money back to Crystal? >> I don't know. I mean, I barely have anything. I don't know if they want me to do a payment plan or what. >> And there we go. There's our first confession. Confession. Confession. I don't know if they have a payment plan cuz I thought the answer was going to be Well, there's nothing I can do to help them cuz I didn't take the money. >> Think to give them something that lost. I have no idea. >> What happened to all the money and what you guys? >> I don't have any. I don't spend. >> You had it and then you spent it. What did we spend it on? Where did it go? Why can't we get it back to Crystal? Did you end up paying bills with her? >> But you this ain't $5. That's There's no way I took that type of money. >> Okay. Then how much did you take? >> There's no way. I wouldn't even bother taking >> So the mountain total is the is the 5,000. That's that's where we're at right now. >> So how much how much did you take? It was less than that. >> Are they Are they patting the numbers here a little bit? >> Probably. >> Yeah, that sounds about right. That sounds about what they do. It sounds about you shouldn't even be in this situation, but it's shame on them for putting people in this situation. No wonder they're having problems cuz they're not acting right. They're not acting normal. >> So, when you ended up getting the deposits, what what actually happened with it? What did you do with them? >> Drop them. >> Did you go home with it? Did you end up having to pay bills with it? You got got a little behind. So, here's the deposit here. what they don't have. And when you add those up, it comes to that amount. >> 65. >> Let's see here. And y'all, here's the thing. The one thing I almost believe that she doesn't believe that she took that much money because she was too lazy to fill out the deposit form at the safe that's on camera at Dollar Tree. So, I believe she actually didn't even know that's how much she stole. And she was like, "I don't think it was that much." cuz she was she didn't even count it for herself to know what she sold. I believe that part. Um, okay. So, August 3rd, she sold three $34721. Oh, a few on August 4th, $393.91. $782.86. Then August 6th, $1,3954. August 7th, $9726. August 10th, $1,9518 all within a week. $700. Did you get behind on bills? Did you have to pay some home bills for it? You have kids? >> Where did the money go? Maybe you can get on a payment plan with him. >> No, I don't have any. [ __ ] I'm still behind on rent pretty. I mean, >> rent is not cheap in the world today. >> No, it's not. >> No, I need to check my account. This is my account. >> Yeah, of course. So, they're patting the numbers a little bit. They're they're a mess to begin with. So, maybe it's like 3,000. Maybe that's the payment plan we need to get on. >> Not even. >> So, just why don't you just take us back to the beginning of how how did this even happen? When you take the deposits out of the safe, where did you end up going with the parents? The >> bank. >> You went to the bank or you took them to your bank? >> No. >> No, I don't think No, not to my bank. No. >> And that's what Jamie said cuz I forgot. Jamie was like, uh, she did not actually deposit it into her account. That was the one thing she didn't do. Did >> you take the money out and throw the bags in or what happened? And if they're trying to play games and add extra money on it, we need to know about that as well. >> So Nean, we can we can work with we can work with the Dollar Tree and discuss that with them. If you think it's more than what it was, we can always talk to them about it. >> No, it's not. No, I didn't take I didn't take I don't this is not more what it was. I mean, they say this is what they're missing, but >> I know like a crazy amount like >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, let's just take it back to the beginning. All right. So, you get the deposit bags from the safe. They have that on camera that you're taking, which is fine. Yeah. >> What would you end up doing? Are you behind the bills? Did you try to help out with your bills? >> What you end up doing with the the money that you took? We're just trying to make make sense of it at this point, you know, >> cuz at the end of the day, I'm not a bad person. >> No. And like I told you, you're criminal. There's nothing. >> You're clean. Yes. Um, >> everybody makes mistakes. We've all been there. >> Yeah, we do. >> I'm not perfect. I've done stupid [ __ ] in the past. >> We do all perfect. So, we all do do mistakes. So, what is Crystal willing to do? >> We'll have to talk to her. I have to give her >> Crystal is willing to do nayananiel. That was their tactic to get your stupid butt to say something. Crystal don't want nothing else to do with you. Crystal done wrote written you off and you're being prosecuted. What do you Crystal ain't talking to you? >> Call and um try to discuss it with her. Um but right now I just need >> But I'm not But the thing But yeah, for all that I'm not taking responsible for all that. That's Yeah, I'm not that crazy of >> No. And and like I said, I'm not saying if you think it's a different amount, that's fine. We can discuss that. But right now, we just need to know what actually happened. So you take the bags. Did did you end up depositing them? Did you end up paying your apartment or did you pay for any of your kids stuff? >> Um I get behind on my bills all the time working here. I have to figure out ways to handle it, you know. >> I was behind one time on my rent. That's pretty much it. >> And this was one of those like, hey, this might help me out just to make it through, right? >> That's pretty much it. >> Was your rent $5,000? I'm It's not. What your husband do for a living? >> He doesn't escape. >> Okay. >> He has no idea what happened. Okay. >> No, he doesn't speak English. No. >> Okay. >> So, it's just like a >> Wait, so you out here discriminating against other people that don't speak English and you're saying, did she say her husband don't speak English? Why I tell you? People be just hypocrites and just discriminatory and everything. Did she say her husband don't speak English? He don't know what's going on. >> Said we I talked to the bank >> and he didn't wonder. He you still know how to communicate with him. Do you Does he not wonder how an extra $5,000 made it into the house? >> They don't have you on camera. >> They don't have me on camera. >> Not Not during these That's the That's the issue. >> So, what happened when you got the deposits? Did you Did you take some of the money out? But if I have all the bags together and so so they're trying to say they don't have me at all depositing the the >> I'm talking about these transactions we're don't even worry about the bank right now. >> Okay. >> So you get the deposit bags from the safe. You leave uh what is it? Dollar Tree. >> Mhm. >> Where do you go with the bags with these bags that are missing? Did you go home with them? >> No. >> Okay. What did you do with them? I might have taken out from in from that car heading to the bank. >> You did what? I'm sorry. >> I said I might have taken out out the bag before heading to the bank. >> Okay. Yeah. Like you took the money out of the bag before doing it to the bank. Okay. And then what did you do with the money? >> Is that where the bill's coming into play? >> Made a money order and pay my rent. >> Okay. Where'd you do the money order at? >> Walmart. >> No, Walmart. >> Mhm. >> Okay. to a money order and then the money went towards your rent. >> Mhm. >> Okay. And that makes sense towards rent. >> That means that he and she would have obviously made enough to pay their rent. If they got behind on rent and that's what she actually did use the money for, she's got a other spending habit he's not aware of. Whether it's gambling, she's a shopaholic, she buying something that he don't know about. Because I'm I'm I'm with y'all. He wouldn't expect them to probably be behind on rent because if nothing else, they're work they're two working adults that can get their rent paid. So she probably spending money on other stuff and and didn't pay rent if she did do that. >> How much is your rent payment? >> 28 >> 28 for your apartment. >> Oh my gosh. >> Mhm. >> See, it's it's difficult anywhere right now. Um would you want to write an apology letter to Dollar Tree where we could and deliver it to them. >> Ah, do y'all think her rent was $2,800 a month or she had to pay $2,800 cuz she was behind in rent? I I know some places can be high. I'm struggling for someone to have $2,800 in rent. >> Yeah. Okay. Crystal didn't have anything bad to say about you. >> She's very nice. >> She's just trying to get it figured out cuz you know that she's going to be responsible for what's going on too. What do you mean, boss? >> I just want to make it super clear for the camera purposes and everything too. So, you got the bags, you take the money out of the bags, you go to the Walmart, off military, the neighborhood Walmart, get a money order, and then you paid your apartment, you ran with it. Yeah. Okay. Do you still have all the money bags and everything? No. >> What' you do with the money bag? >> Okay. >> Wow. She threw the money bags away in the garbage. Okay. Yeah, she ain't smiling so much now. It depends on her area. True, true, true. And y'all are right. Crystal, not only does if it was up to Crystal, Crystal still is going to choose to prosecute, but that's above Crystal's head most likely at that point anyway. But they are. It It's funny that they are like, "Oh yeah, we'll talk to Crystal." >> They got more. Don't worry. >> Yeah, >> okay. So, the um raise your right hand for me. Do you swear in the firm's name is the truth? >> Yes. >> Okay. You put your hand there. All right. So, the next step would be uh we would take you into custody for theft right now. Okay. >> So, we'll go up to our office. We'll make it easy. We're not going to put you in the cell here, but we got to go to paperwork. >> Okay. And then after that >> I'm sorry. >> No. When they're taking you to the jail at some point, you'll go to your first appearance and they'll probably release her with no criminal history. >> Yeah. They'll take you to do fingerprints. They'll take a picture. >> Then later on, you'll get a court date. You'll get a court hearing. That's when you can explain your site. If you don't think it was that mount, then you can argue that it wasn't that that much money and all that. Okay? But I'll also call Crystal and verify everything, too. >> Okay. >> This is why I'm messing with Sweet Tea in the chat. This is why I was saying she's still a bad person, sweet tea. I also look at your surrounding actions. And do y'all remember when I think that was Crystal that was getting interviewed at the beginning of the the body cam? And you remember when Crystal said they were like, "Okay, hey, the bank is going to or no, um, go talk to the people at the bank since you're missing a deposit. See what talk to the bank manager, not a teller." And then they said she didn't know that they were going to show up to her store the next day and she come casually strolling in with her McDonald's. At minimum, if you are struggling so bad that you feel desperate enough to steal from your job, I need you to bring in home-cooked meals. I need it to be a a real cheap meal or a home-cooked meal. Not McDonald's. 2024 McDonald's is high. So, I don't trust it. I don't trust it was a need. It was a It was a thing. She put herself in that predicament. All right. >> So, it's not the end of the road. It's not the end of the world. It's just you have to deal with this. You made a mistake. You have no history of this. You know, maybe it'll just be a money thing and then >> Okay. So, do I have to go on my job? >> When do you supposed to work? >> Uh 3:30 today. >> 3:30. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> Tell them you're sick or >> Yeah. I mean, you can tell them whatever you want. >> Just give me a take your uh your purse off and any jewelry that you have. >> Hold on to it. Put your uh phone in the purse for me. I'm going to hold on to it as I just go upstairs and I'll get back here. We'll get this paperwork done as quick as we can to get you uh >> you're a normal person. This is not a normal situation. That's why we're just explaining everything to you. Okay. >> Just like this. It makes it easy. >> Okay. I got your purse. We're going to walk up with you. Um >> so think about it. We need a call. We need to probably call work. We need to call husband to he has spare keys for the car. You want to leave the car here? >> He doesn't know I have the key. He don't have a spare key. >> Okay. Nellan Mark was charged with felony grand theft and felony organized scheme to defraud. Yeah, I feel like they fired her basically when they sent her on leave without pay and at some point they fired her before that interview started or they just kept on leave without pay because they wanted her to tell the truth. Then she was getting fired after that interview. Yeah, she ain't got no job, right? Okay, next one. I don't remember watching this one, so it might be new to all to me. Um, but it says, "Employee caught stealing $2500 and starts bursting into tears when caught." So, we'll see what impression I get from this. >> $4,000. >> $4,000. >> Listen. Listen. What? >> On January 11th, 2024, officers were dispatched to serve a warrant for woman accused of embezzling $2,500 from her former employer. The alleged theft occurred between April and May of 2023. According to investigators, she is accused of writing fraudulent checks to herself in the company's name. >> Okay. >> 111, can you break? >> Sheriff's office. >> Sheriff's office. >> I'm sorry. Sheriff, how you doing? >> I'm sorry. Yeah, it's me. >> Okay, Marilyn, can >> I get dressed real quick? >> Yeah, absolutely. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Oh, yeah. >> Exactly. For what? For what? You guys charges. >> There were very several charges. When people say for what, I know you don't want to incriminate yourself, but I always think how many crimes have you committed? Cuz you you don't know what it could be that why they're here and you have been writing checks in your name. I just want to know, do they do they commit more than one crime? So, they don't know which one caught up to them or it's like I just I still got to act like I don't know cuz I don't want to admit that I did it. >> I'm telling them. >> I'm going to tell you right now. I'm going to tell you right now. Okay. >> He's going to tell you. So, one is for grand, one is for fraud, forgery. >> I didn't I >> Okay, listen. We're just doing this part. Okay. >> It have nothing to do with what the charges were the charges, right? >> Okay. So, we just have to do this part. Okay. We're going to take you in. They're going to explain it to you when you see the >> Can you put something like better on it? Can I put like a bra or something? And can I call my boyfriend? >> Unfortunately, we go ahead and call your You can go ahead and call your boyfriend and I'm going to send for confirmation right now. Okay. Control 72. Go ahead and check who the one >> scored. I didn't check 40,000%. I got I got I got to um check to see um I don't want to put another another case number. If it's you can link it to that. Yeah, I think there's a case number on there. says one day 11 01 11 today thumb, please. No saying no saying I have a warranty. So I don't know about anything of that. See go easy. No say no. No saying no. So if you want to tell them what the charges are. >> One of them. I don't even know. >> No. If you want to tell them one of the charges are uh >> grand theft, fraud, impersonation, fraud, impersonation, and and forgery of fraud. I know. I know. and and and >> so here's the thing. >> If they're going to take me where where >> Girl, stop it. I'm done with the crying too already, y'all. I'm over it. Cuz you you crying and you not crying. You crying, you're not crying. When you feel like they advancing towards you, it's back to the tears. Stop it. Um, yeah, they letting her talk for a long time. And I'm surprised they let her call anyone on the phone before she was in custody because, you know, they don't know if you're trying to warn an accomplice or, you know, they don't know what you doing on that phone. So, I am surprised they let her go ahead and make that call. And it wasn't even about like, you know, I have small children. Can I get somebody to watch my children? Like, cuz they will, a lot of them be like, no, you cannot make a phone call until we get you to the station. You're going to go to Plantation Key and uh and Alam Marada if it's confirmed. >> And from there if there's a I'm going to check to see if there's a bond >> and if there's a bond you can bond out. >> So I'm not sure if there's a bond yet. >> Jose, when does the bond be posted? >> Hold on a second. I'm checking to see if there's a bond. Can we check if there's a bond? Okay. I saw you. I know. >> And that's very true. But I'm talking about English speaking only people. I'm talking about they just don't let people do it usually. No matter the language, they just No, you cannot call anybody yet. Especially Oh, especially those bank fraud ones when they catch them in the bank. No, you cannot use your phone. Let me tell my god what? Okay, go ahead. She still on the phone. >> $4,000. $4,000. >> $4,000. did it once. >> Listen, listen. We're not We're not here to discuss whether you did something or you didn't. We just have to face the consequences of what we have right now. >> So, this is what's going to happen. Okay? We have to take you in. Okay? You'll see the judge in the morning. You have a bond. Okay? It's 4 It's 40,000, but you paid 10% of that. Okay? It's >> going to go listen. It's $4,000. Okay? You'll see the judge whether you bond or you bond out. you contact the bell bouncerman, whatever you decide to do, and you'll be out and then you'll have a court date where you have to go and to present or dispute your charges. Okay? >> Okay. But oh my god, >> if you don't face this now because the warrant got written today, the worse it is for you in the long run. Okay? Your bond your bond amount goes up, more money that you have to pay and it just >> when the bond when will my bond be ready, >> it's already ready. >> So when you get to the jail, okay, >> they'll explain that to you. >> They'll explain it to you. My my godmother's calling me. I'm sorry. >> Can you see me? >> I swear to God, she is not back on that phone. She is not. She's not back on that phone. Get her off of this thing. >> You can't run out. >> Since it was a report initially, my Last one. >> May last year. >> May last year. >> And it has a it has a >> May of last year. >> Yeah. It has a >> this last year of 2023. >> It has a case number, >> but May of last year. >> Yeah. >> It's too long. I need to get a new case number. >> Yeah. 05. >> You know, the initial report date or whatever. That's what it says. >> But the warrant. >> Can you go Can you go on in smart? It's open. Can I see something? foreign. No. No. What is this? >> I got to keep this moving. She is killing me. >> The door real quick. see me. Okay. Whatever. Okay. You know what? I want to become a firefighter. >> You want You want to work? >> I'm not playing with this. This is This is not real life. She is back on this phone. I skipped y'all. She is still on this phone. I'm skipping. Wow. Never have I seen someone on the phone this much. The whole video is her on the phone. >> Construction. >> I'm telling you, this is when the the kids dated back to um4. Okay. >> Did you have it in there? >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Bye. >> What do you want to take with you to the jail? >> My >> a bra. I want to wear a bra. Like >> come on. Come on. >> No. Forget it. No, I'm just going. Whatever. >> Okay. You don't want to take anything else? >> Okay. >> Turn off. >> Let me grab your phone so it doesn't bur anyway. I'm going to put this as gently as I can. 1845. your car. Yeah. There you go. No man, >> open the car, JJ. not aim for like I don't care. I know I didn't do anything wrong. >> All right. She seat belt is on. Okay. >> 1847. >> Anything else? Uh, no. Um, you know, shook her name, did her birth. >> Yeah. >> Um, 811 1997. Yep. >> And then we got pictures. >> They told me to lock her uh door. >> Okay. The case is back um April 2023. any sense reference to a construction um uh piece whatever. >> How she not like this? She told you the number. >> So, um >> yeah, she told me the number. >> Just let her know that I locked it for her. Okay. So, it's, you know, we can do nothing. >> All right, bro. You want me to get her out? >> Is she going to be able to get out? >> Yeah. I'm only still here for the charges. Huh? >> It's too tight, man. >> Best friend. >> Best friend. >> No, you hating. >> I'm not hating. >> You know you're number one. >> I don't hate. >> We love you. >> I know. I know. No exception for me. Right here. Right here. Come on up. Excuse me. Come here. Let's go this way. Going to walk between these vehicles. >> Yes. >> Is that correct? >> No. >> Hold on. Do you have any medical problems? >> No. High blood pressure, diabetes, nothing. No drugs? No. You feel suicidal? >> No. No. Okay. >> She was charged with multiple counts of larseny, fraud, and forgery. Ordered to pay restitution and community service. >> All right. So, she was convicted cuz they already said what she was uh ordered to do. Y'all look at this thumbnail. Let me know if you've watched this one. We have to watch the beginning of this one just like the Dollar Tree lady cuz we got to understand what he did versus how he is in that interview. Catholic grand knight caught stealing $10,000 scholarship check in front of his wife. It's the excuses for me and the blame for me on this one. So, here you go. This is 51-year-old Evans Paul on February 11th, 2025. Palm Beach County Sheriff's responded to a call from St. Luke's Catholic Church in reference to fraudulent activity involving the church's scholarship fund. The investigation finds that Mr. Paul is accused of forging the check and depositing it into his personal bank account for the amount of $10,000. Watch as detectives conduct their investigation and let us know what you think in the comments below. >> All right, Mr. Robert, can you please tell me uh what's your role? And uh >> um my role at the time of the event is I was when our council listed as one of the trustees and also the head of the Cardinal Newman scholarship education fund, the fundraiser group in our council. And can you please uh tell me how you know Evans Paul >> uh from church and as well as he's been a member of our council for several years and in years past I was the grand knight of the council as well and he had been he'd been an officer in in past years. I don't remember which role whether it was chancellor or something along those lines but he did have a role at one point in time. And how long have you known him? Like >> um probably I'd say at least more than five years. Okay. >> Just either from church before just seeing him in church over the years. It's probably more than that. >> And after he was appointed, uh what what happened? What what occurred for you? Uh what discrepancy that you notice? >> In our getting ready for the school year, in our August meeting, everything's fine. We had stuff. We were trying to get the money to reset the kids who won the scholarship. if we want to get that set up in the September meeting, which I believe is September 9th, I believe. Yeah, I think it was September 9th. Um during the meeting, we had the passing out of the treasures report and the report of the scholarship fund and I noticed that there was $20,000 gone. >> Uhhuh. And so I, you know, whoa, what's going >> to steal from disadvantaged kids that need that scholarship is crazy work. Crazy work >> going on here, guys. And the money and and previous to that, I talked requested the two $2,500 checks. So when the September meeting came and like what happened here? Where's this money? And oh, checks were given to Evans and they were it was given to Carl Newman. And so in the meeting he said he had already given the checks to Carl Newman. >> And when you say he who's >> Evans Paul he said give checks to Carl Newman. >> Okay. >> Um as the meeting went on other things questioning some things and then I said well you know I know people at Cardinal Newman treasurer I will go and ask them to refund us back the other money. And I was talking to Evans at the end of the meeting about this. I'll just go. And he said oh no no don't go to Cardinal Newman. Don't go to Cardinal Newman. which I kind of thought was funny, but you know, I said, "Well, I I'll check with Annie." He was kept insisting I not go to Carl and and then as people ready to leave because I still have the checks and like what you still have the checks. And then several other people in the room said, "We had this whole big blow up in the room about the money and now you tell everybody you have the checks." >> That kind of So everybody kind of got wa >> Okay, you hopefully y'all are starting to get a little bit of the thieves personality based on that. They had a whole meeting like, "We're trying to track down this money. We're missing $10,000, maybe four total checks, $2,500 each check." He let them do this whole thing. They trying to figure it out. At the end, he's like, "Oh, no, no. I got the checks." And also, don't contact the person that the checks were written out to. I I got it. It's going to them. So during that after the meeting I sent him a text and um basically just to confirm you do have the checks for the Carl Newman scholarship and his reply was yes thanks. I said okay thank you. So talking to Mark and Ed and and um Ed during the week trying to track things down and what was going on about getting it I hadn't gotten any response so I had sent Evan some texts and um >> Sure. Go right ahead. So, um, on the Thursday, September 12th, you know, I sent him a text said, "Good morning. I I need to get those two checks from you." I didn't get a response. Um, I had a finance meeting at at that St. Louis. I sat on the the head of that finance committee and I saw Evans in the parking lot. So I pulled over and said um he was there to pick up by his wife and it was raining and I asked him I you know I said I I need to find out about getting the checks and then he didn't say anything. He drove off. So you know and he said I said to him I said I'm not sure what you mean by you will find out about getting me the checks. So it's surprises. We were checking on things and then I um talking to Mark Ed Manning he was supposed to get with Ed and Ed happened to tell Mark that one of the checks had already cleared the bank and Mark and told me that I said so I went online and checked and found the check and cleared the bank and then whoa you know Evan's name was written above Carl Newman. >> And what check was that? >> Uh was one of the scholarship checks. >> Okay. It was for $10,000. >> $10,000. Okay. >> So, >> and on the Friday the 13th, I had texted him and you know, you know, I said, I spoke with the finance department of Carl Newman. I get need to get those check to get this issue region resolved. I said, what time you want to be to St. Luke's? And >> and there is no reason that that man's name should have been put on those checks. It was already written out to who it should go out to. He didn't need to put his name on it. His response was, "Good morning, brother. Listen, you don't need to give $2,500 for each Nicholas family wants to save theirs for next year in order to pay 5,000. If you want to fix it, just get 2500 for Megan. That's all you need. You don't need those checks. Those two checks are not in question anymore. I have already voided them, right?" And I I said, "Thanks for responding. I don't understand your reluctance in getting the checks to me. That's fine if you voided checks. However, Ed Ed is the one who should be voiding the checks. In order to get the new ones issued, I will need to get Ed those checks. He will need to keep them for bookkeeping purposes. The only other option is to put a stop payment on those checks and I would like to avoid the cost of the council. In in regards to the Ramos family, I was already aware of the situation. What time today can we meet at St. Luke? Get the check. >> That Okay, I I need Oh my god. So, the one that stole, he they have doing this scholarship for a while. They've got it down. The routine is down. He tells the thief tells this man that we're seeing on camera right now that those kids don't need that money right now. Uh so, all I need to give you is $2500 implied from the the the money that I stole. You only need the $2,500 and stop worrying about the rest. That's not till later. He's like acting like he's in charge of this scholarship fund. >> And I happened to see him outside uh St. Luke's that afternoon and asked him about the checks and I was told I don't want to give them to you. I would give them to him. And at that point in time we were in school discuss I had the void I found the voided checks. I went online got the voided checks. We talked to Mark. We said we need So I called Father Andrew, set up meeting up with him and the three of us talked and said we need to, you know, report this. This is, you know, money's these things have been altered. The check was altered. Then the money hadn't gone. So we uh set a meeting. We went to the Palm Springs Police Department on that that Saturday afternoon. Went to the Palm Springs Police Department, made the report. Um I've got the report number that we did there. um they reported it at that time. >> Uh I'm going to present the check to you. >> Okay. So, from my understanding, and hopefully he'll put it out there more, it was a one party check that church wrote or or their committee of the church wrote it out to the Douglas person or whoever. The thief that we'll see in a little bit put his name above who it was actually supposed to be written out to as if it could have gone to the thief or the Douglas person. He added his name. The check was done and written to exactly who it was supposed to go directly to >> here. Um I want you to take a good look at it and uh let me know if anything seems out of the ordinary. Okay. Uh the main things that's definitely out of the ordinary um is above on the page to the order of line. It was written Cardinal Newman High School. Above that written name Evans Paul and it's endorsed on the back of the check and I'm not sure if the line through Evan Edward's name is from the machine or not or not but Evans name is above that and his name be written above on our council any checks are supposed to be written are supposed to be signed by the treasurer and the grand knight I don't know if Evan's name was on the account at that time and not to put him have his name on the as on the signature line but the definitely having his name above Carl Newman is incorrect. >> Okay. >> And is endorsed on the back to him. >> Okay. Okay. Are you familiar with Evans Paul's wife? >> Yes. Violet. Yes. Yes. >> All right. Uh what's her position in the church? >> Um I think in in the church itself uh she's I think believe she's a Eucharistic minister which means she helps pass out communion at communion time. She does also work at the school. >> Okay. >> She's does work at the school. >> Okay. Now, her work is compensated. >> I think her work in the school is compensated. Anything to do with the church is not >> anything to do what the church is not. Okay. Do you know if she's involved possibly of uh what's going on with Evans Paul or >> I have no idea. >> Okay. Um, has evidence Paul ever come up to you by chance and ever told you anything of distress as in financial troubles or um anything? >> To me personally, no. >> Okay. And from just from your own personal belief or uh record, um why would Evans Paul do anything like this? >> I have no idea. Okay. I would I was totally shocked about this. And you know when I pulled up that check and I was like I think I text Mark when I called him like you're not going to believe this. You know here I'm thinking whole time I'm going to go to Newman and try to get the money back and you know there's 10 grand's already gone and and we have someone's else's names on the check. So it kind of is shocking. >> Okay. And is there anything else that you would like to tell me that I haven't asked you or anything that you like to say for the record? it it you know when I started this whole program for the scholarship money you know I felt we were doing something really good for kids and trying to help the kids and you know for me personally it it it it's got a point where I just felt like you know how can we do something so good that people are making it you feel so bad to do you know it turns something like it's almost like you don't even want to do it and you know I try you know I sit there and pray that you know yeah we got to move forward board and get behind get this thing put the rest >> and it just made a really good situation feel bad and you know I just sit there and I pray about it like look we need to keep doing this and moving on and not not let something negative turn it bad and and we've done a I think a really good job of trying to contain this and not let it get out so everybody you know because you know when person next thing we tried to, you know, keep it a really close-knit. You know, as I know Mark and I have, we haven't really talked about any to anybody about it, but um, you know, hopefully, you know, other people just trying to keep it a small number of people that understood the thing. >> Mr. Paul is interviewed. >> And that sucks. This Paul Evans, Evans, Paul thief that we're about to see now. um you are making them rethink doing a scholarship fund because it's leaving a bad stain making them look bad when it's just you as the thief. Like I and and just wait to see how oh the way he tries to turn it on anybody but himself >> about the checks at the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office. >> Please state your full name again. >> Evans Paul. >> Okay. Evans Paul. I'm going to read uh read you your random rights. Okay. with you understanding your rights. Uh, are you willing to speak with me? >> Sure. >> Okay. So, Mr. Paul, okay. Um, so this is obviously has to do reference of >> Knight of Columbus. >> Knight of Columbus. Okay. So, you're right. Okay. Um, what is your role in the Knight of Columbus? Like what you were appointed? >> I mean, when that happened, I was a great knight. >> You're a great knight. Okay. You're appointed a great knight. Okay. >> Yes. >> All right. Have you ever had a a job in the church that you've ever been compensated for? >> No. >> No. It's been all volunteer. >> I have been. Yes, I've been volunteer over there. Yeah. >> And how long have you been at the church attending the church for? >> It's been like since 1999. >> Oh, wow. Okay. >> Yeah, that's right around 25 26 years. >> I wonder how much has he stole in that time. And only reason I don't think he just started stealing is because of how he blames everybody else. So, it just doesn't feel like he just started stealing to me. You've been with them since 99 in 2000 and you do this to them. >> Okay. And during the time around, uh July of of of last year when he became the grand knight um uh there was an incident that occurred. Okay. Uh reference I guess they had a meeting >> and there was a a discrepancy f. Yeah. Can you explain like what that discrepancy? >> Yeah. So what happened is this was like uh after you know when you get night to treasure everybody when there's something they need to talk to you. >> So usually I used to pick up my wife. >> Okay. Before he gets deep in his story I need you to know now you are not going crazy if you cannot follow his logic on how he tries to explain why he has the checks and why he wrote the check to himself. It is not you. It is him. He is bad. Amen. >> Because she always done at 6:00 after care. >> Okay. >> So I went when I went there to pick up my wife and then I went to sit there's a blue chain by the family life. So I went to sit there and then there's like some Hian on Friday we have Hian prayer. So they know me. I've been guess you know been sitting there talking to them like and then Ed is description. Ed came he was like event I really want to talk to you. They tell me you here. I was like okay what happened? What's going on? He was like, "There's something I really want to talk to you about because now you're getting night." I said, "What happened?" He was like, "Listen, we've been collecting money as a donation for scholarship. >> It's been 3 years." Like they make a picture with the people for the donation, but they never give the money. I mean, you tell me that that's like click on my mind. If you're getting people donation for something, you should give that money out. Especially you stand up in the church, you make a picture with those people, everybody sees like they going to have a scholarship and then they never receive the money. >> I was like, okay, just tell me what happened. And then when he tells me they never give the money for 3 years, he's been past 3 years. So as I'm getting nine, so he needs my help. I was like, what kind of help you need? He was like, we need to give the scholarship. I was like, do you have anybody? And then he bring me like a bulletin with the person name and everything. I was like, okay. Those two girls, I know them, so I can talk to them. I was like, as the people said, they have a scholarship for four years. >> So that's been 2500 each year. So they're going to be $10,000 back is going to be the low is 20,000. >> So I tell him, so this is what we're going to do because my kids over there toward that school, man. So what we do, we pay the tition online like in the website called facts. I tell them like this is what we're going to do. I can just get the money and then I put the money in my account. I can go to FA just contact those parents, get the information and then make the payment online. He was like, if it's as soon as you can do help me out, that would be fine. I said, okay. >> I don't think he explained any of that until after he let them people scramble. First of all, when I say explain, I mean lies, lies, lies, lies. But he let those people scramble in their committee meeting, discover $20,000 is missing. Wait till the end of the meeting. Oh, I have it cuz I know these two girls. That doesn't matter. The system exists already. However it flows, it flows and the money goes where it's supposed to go. It doesn't go into your personal account. And he didn't say okay to me in my opinion. I don't think that man said okay like he agreed. It's like okay. I'm trying to follow your logic on why this is in your account all of a sudden. >> So he went to his car. He went he wrote the check but he he wrote the check back home but I think he's going to come with the check. I can tell him like just put my name on it because I already tell him I will just deposit the check that way I can make the payment online. So what he said was like okay so now you get nine you don't have I don't have time. So he said you don't have time to go to the bank with me to put your name in the account. So you get nine anyway. So just sign on the top. He give me the pen. He was like, "Sign on the top of my signing." >> So he's saying that the man we saw interviewed at first told him to sign his name at the top of that check. Now, we just saw that man say, "I don't know why." They would have lined through with who the payee was and he would have written his name on the top, but he's trying to say that man told him to put his name at the top of that check. >> Put your name. That's not going to be a problem. So I take the check. I hold the checks for two weeks because I need to find out like with the parents first. So how much money because you get only one scholarship. The school give you scholarship and everything. So I just want to see how much the difference if it's higher than 2500 a year or if it's less. >> But myself if it's less I will give them the rest of the money because 2500 is belong to them every year. All right. So okay. So after I talk to the parents, when parents tell me, Evans, I don't have no balance because we have a Spanish scholarship I got. So can I use that money next year? I said, yes, next year you can have 5,000 next year. But there is one of them when I do event like selling tickets and everything. She always help me out selling tickets for me and everything at the church, right? So I really need to give that her that money and then she hold the school $2,300 some. So, and then we have a scholarship for $2,500 for her. >> You know, her name is Kelly. So, I always promise, so we're going to get the money. Going to get the money. So, after that, I went to my bank. I It was two checks, $20,000 for I deposit one check for 10,000. >> So, I tell like this is a scholarship checks from N of Columbus. So, I'm going to give to women. So, the check deposit. So they said the check the checks going I think like when the first date was September 5th something like that the check is going but the girls keep asking me when you going to pay and everything we always text I said the check is not clear yet I'm waiting for the check to be clear that way I can pay it for you right >> so after that we'll have a meeting so I'm the one that's the host the meeting and everything if I have to ask questions I can so by the time the meeting you need to give report right the treasur didn't show the guy that I'm dealing with in that problem. He didn't show up, but he said, "EV, I will send the report. They prepare what happened and then you will talk about it." I said, "Okay." So, when the report come up, I read the report. There's like $20,000 check. >> Yeah. >> But the money is not out yet from the account. But we said there's $20,000 check out for the scholarship. All right. And then there is a guy named Wabbit Marc. He just standed up says like, "Oh, no. There's no money. you cannot give any scholarship without me and listen that pissed me off because I knew things he didn't know because I was like listen dude it's been like 3 years you keep making picture with people you said you going to give scholarship you never give it so now I'm the get so I responsible to give those people the scholarship because because I know you want to use the money for your own game because lately he came with few other guys from that moving down here they talking about put that money in like what we call market you know they're going to use it for like market so to pick benefits out of it so which is I said no you can't do that because the money is delicious it's for the scholarship so now you guys want to use the money this in the market all right so I always against that and then after that I was like after the meeting done we always eat after the meeting my wife always like give me food for everybody to eat just I call him I said like listen you call >> huh >> who' you call >> yeah he was the that we discuss I was like listen that's the way I am dude I don't want you to think like I personal problem with you so I'm sorry if I say something that offended you so I'm sorry about it and then we done we start talking and everything but by tomorrow I receive text from him I need the checks >> yes >> I didn't even answer believe me I didn't answer >> yeah I saw the text messages >> yeah the text that you're trying to spin in another way the of course the scammer avoids messages about getting the money back. Of course, you didn't answer. You're trying to say it because you're mad that How could he question you? Of course, you were doing the honest thing with the money. Okay. >> Because I didn't like having any I didn't take any checks from you. So, why you ask me for checks? >> So, at 3:00, I mean, at around 5 something, I went to pick up my wife. He knew I'll be there. So, he was waiting in the parking lot. He came next to my car. is like Evans can you give me the checks I would tell him like listen dude I don't have any checks for you did I get any checks from you no if I have to give checks I will give it to the person that give it to me all right so okay and then like I told you I already tell the bank so I mean the scholarship will cancel so I don't want to get involved anymore so can you send the money back to the bank that way you know I don't want anything to see with that so the bank try to tell me so the TD need to waste the money. So what I did, I call Ed, he's the I tell Ed like, "Can you meet with me at Wawa?" So we meet at Wawa in Bel because I'm living in Wa Beach. >> So I was with my daughter and then we went there. We talk about it and everything. And then he was like, "Okay, it look like they call me Evans, but I don't call them back because I didn't know what they talking about. I was like, "Yeah, they want you to go to TB, request the money back, and then we done with it." So it's been like time pass because I never talk to nobody even I don't even feel to go to the meeting anymore but I call my assistant it's Sally Sally Sullivan it's my assistant I call him I explain to him the situation what happened and everything so I was like I don't tell anybody so if you know anyone come to tell you or whatever I mean you will not return right and then after that one day I went to church and then father father and so we have a good relationship. He was at Evans, you know, I'm the one that doing action at the church at 9:00 m. He was at Evans, I want to talk to you after mass done. I was like, "Here, father, in your office." He was like, "No, guess what?" He wrote and then when I done, I said, "Father, I'm finished." So, we get to the we went to the back room on the left side. He was like, "Listen, they tell me something about the check and this and that, but when they tell me that, they said they already make a police report." But >> why you this and that and the part about the check, but we got to know you went to the back in the in the room on the left side. That detail you want to put in there. But what he's actually talking to you about the check, you just say, "Oh, this and that." Boy, >> we we have we have what we call a district deputy. And then they tell the district deputy about it. They asked me to ask you to step down. So I was like, "That's all you want to say?" He says, "Yes, I'm finished." I said, "Okay." I didn't say nothing else. I said, "Okay." But since he says that, the reason why I pissed off because all of them, they always happy to see me talk to me and everything. So if something happened like this, so you guys already make a police report. So no one call me, talk to me about it. No one wants to know what I think. So what? Why? Because black people always steal it. >> Ah, you did. you stole. Oh man. Don't hide under the umbrella. Do not try be try to hide behind the shield of stereotypes. You stole, >> you know. So I didn't say anything at all. I just like forget it. Okay. So now what I did, I was waiting. But now I have to deal with the bank and the treasure. So I called the treasure. I like listen did you make the request for the money? He said yes I did. I was like okay let me find out with with the bank. When I called the bank the bank said Evans they already make me the request for the money but there's something called investigation they making me a check so we cannot release the money until the investigation done. I was like that's all I want to know. So I'm waiting for an investigation to be done. Like I tell you guys just send that money back. I want to I want to be finished with everything. That's it. >> How long ago was that? >> It was like it was back what? It can be back in November around November or December. I don't really like remember the date. >> But is that normal practice though? Is that normal practice? >> Oh yeah. Yeah, of course. >> No. No. For somebody take the the night the Columbus check and put it in their own bank account >> if it's not. >> Is that normal? Like do do all the Grand Knights do that? >> Listen, let me tell you what happened. You know when you just >> Yes or no? Do all the grand knights do what you just did? >> Night. Nobody tells you anything. You need to listen to the treasury only because the treasury taking care of the money. He's the one that is responsible. Soon you can. He's the one that's go to the bank with you. Add your name in the in the bank account. So he was the one that like I tell you give the check say you can sign it. You can sign right here because you get right now. So like you said, you need 10,000 to pick the scholarship. So yes, this is the way. >> What happen if Ed said that's not true. He told you to not put your name like that on the check. >> Oh, Ed. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. But Ed can say whatever he want because like I tell you yes was the one that give me the B says like sign right here. >> He said you can put it in your own. >> That's correct. Just to do the payment online because I already clear with him. That's how we make payment. >> What payment online? >> It was like the scholarship payment for the for the parent. >> But why would it come from your bank account? That's why I'm kind of confused. It doesn't >> because like to make the payment online, you need to be the money is supposed to come from my account because I'm the one that making the payment. But after you deposit, >> but why did it go to your account in the first place? And I see I I will correct myself on something. He's blaming the treasurer that we did not hear from talking about the treasurer told him to put his name above the other name on the check. I don't I still don't believe it, but I thought he was blaming the dude that we first saw in the interview room. >> The check. Why did you not tell anybody that you put it in your account and then you'd be paying for it through online >> like anybody like who >> I know you're the grand knight but you got to tell you know because you know you have meetings every quarter every month you know don't you know they will see that money missing like how let the people know before you >> I just no no like I tell you who whoever know it was the only one that know >> because when we did the meeting the first meeting we did after the check I mean the check wasn't deposit yet you remember I tell that I said like we did the meeting and then we talk about the check the report there's a two check that's right for $20,000 scholarship and then that's how we going to have the problem because he doesn't want $20,000 get out at once but he wants to give $2500 a year so that the most money that's supposed to get out is like $5,000 >> so right so that's it >> but why would you do if you know that that's going to be a problem why would you do $20,000 >> I didn't know if going to be a problem I didn't know that >> you just said that they want to >> exactly they want that after like before >> the trick was right before the meeting >> but it's always been like that talking to the other grand knights in the past including Mark and he said that it's always been $2500 increments ever since they started and he created it because it was both Mark and uh Robert that created this this scholarship. So basically you basically decided upon yourself that you're going to take that money deposit it and then pay them regardless. >> No you was going to I mean this is the reason why I deposit only one check because the other girl for this year she didn't have any balance. It's only one girl that have balance $2,300. So basically I mean after I paid that 2,000 >> then it should have stayed with the treasury. It never at any time makes sense for this to be in his personal account if they didn't have enough kids to give a scholarship to. They either have well they have the account that they hold it in which is what what the treasurer watches. It has nothing to do with being deposited in your personal account >> $300 or whatever that's left over to make it like $2500. But I was not going to do that. I was going to give the like they to like you know pay the balance and then give it the 14,000 for the for the four years which is in one time. But then you attempted to submit another check for 10,000, right? >> You submit what? >> You tried to get another check for 10,000, right? >> No, no, no. Those two checks was at the same time. >> The same time, the same minutes. >> Okay. Which is 20,000. Correct. >> Exactly. >> I know. But why would you do another $10,000 check? >> Because it's for two people. >> Okay. Pick up the paper and show me. >> Okay. And then you wrote up top. >> Yeah. >> Do you normally do that? >> Yeah. >> Do you normally do that? Who? Is that normal for you? >> No. No. When I I did that like when I was with Ed. I tell you when I wasn't with Ed, I did that. >> When you wasn't with Ed? >> When I was with Ed when he gave me the check. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> And Ed told you. >> Ed was the one that give me the pen. Says Evans sign on the top of my name and then you can deposit it. Yes. It was Ed that give me the pen. Unfortunately, listen, the the biggest problem that we have here is the check. Period. Okay. The check of $10,000. Okay. >> Um, unfortunately, we can't go by hearsay. Okay. We don't have no proof that Ed or or this person or any person told you to put their name across and deposited in your bank. >> And I'm I I'm pretty sure they have either already spoken to the treasurer. We're just not going to see that interview. or they definitely will speak with the treasurer. And I just don't see the treasurer saying, "Yeah, I told him to make it out to himself as well, and it could go to his personal account, and he can split it up to these people he knows personally." >> Okay. Um, from what I see now is, listen, everybody has issues, especially the economy. A lot of things are crazy expensive, this and that, whatever. You know, even myself, the same things I bought at Costco used to be $400. Now, $800. You know, everybody's going through a headache. Everybody's going through something. All right? But again, I'm trying to help you out the best I can. Okay? >> I need you to be honest with me because at the end of the day, what you did is illegal. >> Okay? >> You cannot afford your check. >> Okay? >> Okay. You're not You can't put your cost from anything and you can't deposit it in your account. >> Period. Yeah. >> Cuz it didn't happen like that before. >> It wasn't like that. >> It's really stupid. I mean, it's the the problem is >> I want to rewind and see what he just said right there after the cops said you can't do that. Okay. that before. It wasn't like that. >> It's really stupid. I mean, it's the the problem is I am the one that's stupid. I should not accept him tell me to put money. I can do that. Yeah. >> But if he said no, that is set up. But he knew that's going to be happen because you said he said no. >> Again, I cannot take your your word versus his word or hearing, but all I know is I have all I have is the evidence. Yeah. >> It's your signature, which you just said. You notice a check. Yeah. >> Um, you are obviously going inside to tell and depositing it. Okay. >> No, it was in the drive-thru. >> I'm I'm just saying. Okay. Doing a drive-thru depositing it and it go into your account. Okay. And unfortunately, your account was already negative. Okay. Which >> Okay, there it is. his account was in the negative when he so sophisticatedly decided that it made more sense to deposit that check in his account in his negative balance account that the treasurer told him to make out to himself personally and hold it because they only had so many scholarships to give out this year. boy. >> All right. There was as soon as you dropped it, there was $73 missing and that's why it was it it went down to $9,926.3. Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, you know, it doesn't it doesn't look good when I could pull your your account and I could see all these overdraft and negative, you know, like I said, you know, it's hard or whatever. So, it looks like, you know, you you you had the intent to possibly do this to maybe help yourself and your family because obviously you got kids, you got whatever, and then you were going to pay the money back or quickly do what you had to do, which is that's a different case if you had the permission to do that. >> Okay. >> As of right now, the people that I spoke to, the people I interviewed, the people that sworn said that's a practice that's never been done and nobody gave them permission to do that. So, that's the issue that we have here. Okay. Now I'm trying to help you to help me out and you need to tell me the truth why you did what you did so I could then maybe tell a judge later or so and so whatever be like hey listen Paul was honest. He's not a bad guy. We're not looking for him to go to to jail or do this or do that. You get what I'm saying? >> Yes. Let me tell you like I tell you >> I didn't do that because I need the money. I already tell you the truth. >> I did that just to help Kerry to pay the scholarship. I didn't do it because I need >> How is your negative account balance happened behind helping anybody? Boy, these are the worst of the worst scammers and thieves. I'd rather you just say I was trying to feed my family and keep a roof over our heads. But after his explanation, I wouldn't take it from him anymore. But had he not done all this and said that, I'd rather have heard that. I can't wait till y'all see the wife and hear what the wife got to say. >> The money I need to use for myself. No, that wasn't my scholarship, you know. That was me. Promise her like I see they give you the scholarship. So you help me out selling the ticket and everything. So I will do the best I can just to pay the balance for you, you know. Yes. This is the reason why I tell you we take two times 10,000 for 4 years for those two parents. That's it. No, but if I need to steal the money, I will deposit both checks. I had both checks on my head. So why you don't have the copy in the other one? They tell you which was like $20,000. >> No, >> no, I have What happened was the the other one wasn't wasn't deposited like this one. >> Okay. >> This one basically got cleared. That's why they were able to take the $73 from from the first. >> No, it wasn't clear by the way. You know, >> I Okay, I I I get it. But what I'm just saying is is it went to your account. >> Exactly. >> Okay. So, if it went to your account, that means it was clear to your account. You may have >> not. And then when it was found, Robert told me that he had access to that to that check because it was made for the night of Columbus. He's the one that stopped it and that's why we have a problem of it retrieving back right now because it's references investigation. So Robert was the one that initially stopped the check. >> That's not true. >> Yes, >> that's what I Yeah, >> that's not true. >> Okay. He says >> and then also it did not help when he's trying to talk to you and then you're ignoring him. No, the text message and then you know he went to go meet you at you know obviously at the church room like you right and you just sped off on him and >> no I didn't sp on him I just like put my window down I said I check get the checks from you so if I have to the checks I would return it to the person that given to me >> they always think they're so smart you should have been quiet well you shouldn't have been stealing I always have to say that you shouldn't have been stealing but why are you here without an attorney cuz you think you so smart you can explain this away. Just because your wife believes your lies does not mean everybody else actually thinks you're this smart and it makes sense to them. >> That's what I said. >> So, do So, you're saying you have no >> no intention to steal the money for myself? No. That's why they want >> And you have and you have no uh uh you have no problems with with with uh your uh money as of right now. >> No, as of as of right now, by the time I'm talking to you right now, No, >> like it's parable to Cardinal Newman, right? For start by add to treasur, right? >> No, no, no. But why would it listen? >> The account itself is that's a name of the account. >> Yes. >> Itself. >> Yes. >> Yes. That's a name of the account. >> I understand that. >> Yes. >> Wouldn't that Wouldn't that make sense to go to that fund and then later be paid out out of there? >> Of course, >> for tax purposes, any type of purposes, receipt purposes, right? Since it's enough for profit, >> but to pay it online too, you would have all those things. You will have your receipt and everything because >> but you could do it from that account. It doesn't have to go from your personal account. >> I mean I mean at that time we I mean I didn't think about it because me >> Oh my god. Oh he is so frustrating. Thank you to the cop that said the obvious cuz yes I forgot about the tax purposes but for any type of auditable action. Of course, they would want it to come from their official account that the treasurer is either overseeing or knows exactly what official account it went into. There's no reason for it to be in your account. And an answer of, "Oh, I didn't think about that at the time." Doesn't make sense. You were just stealing. >> When I'm making a payment for myself, my kids is in school over there. That's what I did. I just go online. This is the reason when I contact the parents to get like the account information, just do it online. That's what at that time that's that's what I was thinking at that time. >> Okay. Which was not very smart. Do we both agree with that? >> Yes. But you know with the technology nobody have to go anywhere. You just sit home put your cell phone you go online you do whatever you have to do. That's why I was thinking at that time but like you said but >> was it smart you know? >> No. Wasn't what you're not agreeing with me with and we're not going to go around in circles. All right. Is >> the fund is made for that $2,500. >> Yes. It's never taken at a lump sum of 10. All right, just hear me out. It's never taken a lump sum of 10. Okay. The reason for is because the $10,000 is the maximum they can get, right? >> Yeah. For four years. >> Yes. Okay. I understand that. For four years. >> All right. So, the reason for that is just like you said, if they left school or their grades not kept up or what or any of that issue, >> then you're not out of all that money. you know, it's already taken out and it can stay in the account and maybe grow some more money or whatever percent whatever is left in the account to continue growing or yielding or whatever what have you. >> Okay. >> You took upon yourself all right as the uh the uh grand knight to take that check and deposit it. >> Yes. Yes. All right. We could agree on that. Okay. >> Then you proceeded whether you like you said which was stupid or not stupid or Ed said you could do this or not. wrote your name up top of Cardinal Newman and then uh scratched out Edmond's name and wrote your name and then check I didn't scratch. >> Okay, you put a line. No, no, no. If you see that line, that was Ed me. No, probably I don't know if it copy. No, I didn't put you wrote your name above this. >> That's correct. Yes. And Yes. >> Okay. And then you deposit the truck. >> Yes. What I'm telling you is that doesn't make sense because it it's not supposed to be like that. You took that upon yourself in that. Yes. >> Okay. As of right now, unfortunately, >> I do believe that you have maybe malice intent of basically stealing all that money, but what you did is wrong. Period. >> Okay. >> Do you understand that? >> Yes. >> Okay. You cannot write your name over checking. You cannot sign your name. >> Okay. >> All right. So, as of right now, what you're looking as as as being charged is grand theft, okay, >> of $10,000 and uh uttering a forge instrument, which is a trick. >> Okay? >> Those are two felonies. Okay? Um I try to help you out. Um I'm not saying that, you know, I'm not saying that you did anything wrong or anything like that, but um you're not helping yourself. If you told me you had financial problems, this is why you did this, you weren't thinking, and then you're later pay back this, whatever. >> But I can't force you to say anything. >> I'm only looking I could only look at what I have, which just a proof here of all your statements, and looking at all the fees and all the unpaid balances and certain things that you have here, your suspended license, and um, you know, that's all I could go by, which is the actual evidence. You know, >> I I will never tell you. Yes, I have my intention just to steal the money. No, that was it. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. >> Mr. Paul's wife, who is waiting outside, is informed of her husband's arrest. >> It's not a voluntary position. He was a great night. >> A great night. Yeah. But great night doesn't get paid though. >> Does a great pay. They give the money like he don't spend like a scholarship to give to this school to the kids was at St. Luke. They going to Newman. >> They won't give him the check. His name is on it to he asked my husband for help. >> Like they always give the scholarship. They never give it to the kids and then now I need your help. He tell my husband to >> okay my husband just >> um they want to >> ed that hurt my feeling. >> I hear you. But >> as you serving God of course you don't put people in trouble for >> Don't you dare How about you tell your husband you don't steal. How about that? that he don't deserve to get arrested for that. And I'm going to father entry. Okay. >> To the priest. You guys speak? >> Yeah. I'm going to the priest. I've been at St. Luke 6 26 years. >> Yeah. And you tell him. Yeah. >> My son I get married there. >> We helping. I used to be al coordinator. I'm working at this school. >> Yeah. It's embarrassing. >> It's embarrassing. He don't deserve that. >> He's helping. I'm going to ask the parent. I tell you that. I'm going to ask the parent to involve in that. He have called the text in all the text. He's going to pay this scholarship for the kids. >> I don't use people. I don't We don't steal. >> We don't steal. I know you doing your job. >> Your life is hard. And then I >> Your life is hard. >> Yeah. >> If I explain to you my life, I stay after. We don't steal. >> I hear Listen, like you said, I'm just doing my job. Initiate. >> You're doing your job. You're doing your job. Well, when my husband tell me that I if I can sue him, I will sue him. >> I will sue him. He just working 7 to7. He don't even get home. When he tell me that I don't even eat my lunch, I come >> I've probably said this before, but I'm going tell you again. >> I hate when someone is not making a good point and they do the dramatic pauses like you're supposed to get their um points and their um their message and be on their side. I hate dramatic pauses for stupidity. So her pauses like she done really said something and she done dropped the hammer is eating my insides alive >> with my food. >> Mhm. >> I understand. >> You don't deserve to get arrested. >> I appreciate you. crying because I'm going to talk to father. >> You don't need to talk to nobody. You don't talk to nobody. >> No, you don't need to talk to nobody. >> I'm going to go to gun club. Okay. Okay. I just managed to say hi and bye and cell phone and tell you tell already told them I'm going to meet with the police. So tell them >> my address will be okay. Tell everybody don't cry. Okay. Finish with some I love you. You say you tell don't say anything. >> No, don't say anything. >> I have to go to see father. >> No, no, you don't need to say anything. >> Whatever you charge the priest in there. All right. But I'm just doing my job need to come to >> All right. That's fine. All right, go ahead. Good night. They smile themselves. >> And you know what? I'm going to call Megan's mom, too. I'm going to tell them. >> Yeah. Yeah. Megan's mom. You can tell. >> I'm going to tell. >> That's why I tell him. I tell him I do that for Megan's mom. >> They tell you I get because they said I steal the money. >> I have my kids. >> Yes. him to >> Evans Paul was charged with felony grand theft and felony uttering a forged instrument. >> Candace, don't you start. Oh my god. Okay. H yeah, she's going to find out the hard way. Uh well, she'll never believe it. She'll always believe they framed him. I'm sure that's what she's going to believe. Doesn't matter if he ends up getting convicted. She's going to believe that they framed him. Don't make no sense. She probably didn't have access to the accounts. He She probably even know they was in the negative. She think they probably doing well and then he was It's so many things, but baby, your account was in the negative. He was trying to make the logic make sense on why he was holding that money as if he was going to hold it, pay his bills, make it back by the time that next scholarship came due. Too much. Too much. Okay, we're on to some more simple thievery again. It says, "Employee caught stealing the petty cash from the safe." And I think this is the one the officers had no patience for him because he was caught on camera doing it. So, here we go. >> Okay. Camera might not be on. >> Hey, sir. How you doing today? >> What's going on? >> I'm Dan. >> Um, can you give me a grace? >> I can. Okay. Um, so essentially had an employee yesterday walk in the open office door and take money out of pretty cash for their do you want to sit in the back cuz I it's hard to hear you. >> I don't want to make it. >> Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Do you want to go in the back? Break this way. Mhm. All right. >> So, essentially yesterday had a cook clock out from a shift. >> Okay. >> Came in the office, opened this, >> you know, >> safe >> safe, grabbed the petty cash. 426 bucks left. Um, we do have that on video and then employee scheduled to be here at 10:00 and he's already confirmed that he is coming in. >> Okay. >> So, he should be here. >> Did he know the code or was the key like it? >> Yeah. Which is another my manager issue. But >> yeah, as much as you tell them like, hey, it's silly season. You got to protect yourself. to the office. So he's looking at the camera seeing the cash. out the cash and the door. >> Do you want to press charges? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, you get your start on a statement. Do you have all his information? >> Uh, yeah, I can pull off the back doorway to the right the office. That's why I walked in. >> Hey, Mike. >> What's going on? >> In just a second. You're my freed. Okay. >> Yes, sir. >> Under arrest. >> I'll let you know in just a sec. >> Bro, I haven't done anything. What am I being under? I just got >> Okay. Is going on. >> We're going to explain it to you in just 1141. You >> have your ID on you? No, I don't. >> You don't have your ID. >> Well, can I ask why I'm leaving the place? I can't let I haven't done nothing. >> I just told you that. I'll explain that to you in a second. >> I just got here from work. What is What is going on? >> Come on back here. Let's have Let's have a rest. >> Excuse. >> Can one of you open the office for us? Do >> you have any? >> Can you open the office for us? Appreciate it. Do >> you have any weapons on here? >> I'm going to leave the door open. >> Have a seat. >> I'm going to take this off. >> Why am I getting placed under arrest? I can't go to I can't go to jail. >> Well, you can absolutely go to jail. >> No, I know that. I'm just saying. >> All right, so we can talk. I'm going to I'm going to read you some things real quick. That way we can have a conversation. Okay. Have you ever been read your constitutional Miranda writes before? >> Yes. >> So when I ask you a question, I need you to say yes or no. You understand that question. Okay. >> From that state like >> I am going to read you something so you can talk. >> I go to my one day. >> You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand? >> I do. >> Anything you may say may be used against you in court. Do you understand? >> No. You have the right to talk to a lawyer before and during questioning. Do you understand? >> If you cannot afford a lawyer and want one, will be provided for you without questioning, without charge. >> Do you understand? >> Okay. How long have you worked here at >> uh four or five months now? >> Four to 5 months. >> Yeah. >> You have been dated? >> I don't know. >> Um I think so. >> You think so? Okay. This particular Kikis or KikiS in general? >> Just just this particular one. Okay. You've not worked anymore. >> Andy, >> you've not worked any any other Kiki? >> No. >> Okay. >> Andy, >> what do you need to talk to Andy about? >> Just I want to talk to you, man. >> This has nothing to do with us. What would that have to do with him? >> I I mean, what's going on is what I'm trying to see. >> What's going on? Oh my god. this is crazy to act this clueless and the camera has caught him. Um, and then I don't like it when someone steals or does something wrong at their job and then they try to call the person to pressure them into not doing anything to them. They don't want to talk to you. They already called the police. They would have talked to you beforehand if they had something to say to you. >> What's happening? >> You're being investigated. It's a criminal investigation. >> Michael, what's your social? Um, it I'm being crim criminally investigated. >> So why am I in handcuffs then? >> Well, that's how we detain people. You understand that, right? >> Yeah. But I mean, I'm I'm just saying. >> What's your social? >> Um, you know, I I haven't done anything. So, I I'm like a little confused right now. >> That's what we're here to figure out. >> I just got off of probation. 2 years. >> For what? >> Not one violation. >> For what? What did you have probation for? Uh it was uh what was it? Uh burglary to a conveyance. >> Sir, not you have a history. Burglary to a conveyance. I think that means a car. He might have broke into a car or something or you know it could be also a train or something, but I'm guessing a car. Come on, man. >> I think it was a vehicle. >> Yeah. Okay. Um >> should be m i h a b r i t o. My wife's step my wife's. >> What's your date of birth, Michael? >> Brother, >> you still live at the address at 824? >> 26. >> Well, not well, not anymore. I moved to my mom. >> Where is that? >> Uh, something Denise Avenue. >> Yeah, >> that's you, right? >> It's your driver's license picture. That's what you Okay. So, you've been identified as a person of >> Well, a person that stole from this establishment. >> What? >> Stole what? >> Do you want to tell me or no? >> I haven't stole anything from you. I mean, I take food home. That's about it. >> Okay. So, I'm going to lay it out on you, okay? Cuz I'm I've already got the I've already got all the questions I need answered. I just want to have your side and you to be truthful about it >> and I'm being investigated. >> Correct. Cuz you know there are cameras all over this establishment. >> Yeah, I know. >> Okay. To include in this room. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So why would that camera have you >> accessing that safe and taking money out of it if you haven't stolen from this? Is that >> that safe? >> Correct. >> I have never taken any money out of this safe. >> Why would the camera show that then? And why would people identify you as being the one that did? >> Uh, I'm not sure, but I I have never taken money out of that safe. When When did I take money out that safe? >> Yesterday. >> No, I did not. >> Okay. >> No, I did not, sir. Like, can I talk to Andy about this, please? >> No, because that would be a tampering with a witness. >> How? But I'm not arrested. You said that I'm I'm criminally being criminally >> criminal investigations to include witnesses. Yes. >> To include witnesses. Okay. >> Right. So if you talk to your boss because again at the end of the situation is is he's the one that's witnessing everything that's occurring because it is his responsibility. For some reason somehow you have you on camera looking right up at that camera going into that safe removing the envelope taking $427 of cash and putting in your pocket yesterday. >> I never took $427 of cash. Did >> you take anything? >> I took nothing. No. I I opened up that safe to look for uh some something else for my arm like another type of medicine for Oh my god, y'all. That has to be a new one to some of you. He opened up a safe to look for medicine as if it was a medicine cabinet. He opened the safe to look for medicine for his arm. >> For my arm, cuz I have the medicine. >> Why would a medicine be in a safe? >> I didn't open up the safe. >> You just said you did. No, I opened up the cabinet to look for more medicine because that medicine cabinet is there and I have gotten band-aids from Pac, my other manager. He's given me band-aids before from that cabinet. >> I see I don't know. >> I I don't know. I I I never go into the safe. I never go into the safe. I I >> Then why would the video have you on it doing that? >> But I did not take and didn't take You might have had me opening the cabinet. Yes, sir. >> And then removing cash. No, not removing cash. I There was cash. >> Why would you do such a thing? >> I didn't I didn't. >> What do you need the money for? >> Oh yeah, he looked straight at the camera. Forgot that part. Oh my gosh. You can't act shop and he was looking at the camera. >> Christmas gifts or something? Rent or some sort? >> No sir. I get paid coming. I get paid every by a week. Every two weeks I get paid, sir. So then why would you take the money? >> I did not take any money at all, sir. I I did not I I opened the video. >> I already saw the video, >> right? But I didn't take no money. >> Clear as day. It's you. >> Clear as day as me. What? >> Michael, do you see that camera in the corner right there where I'm pointing? Right here. >> Yes, sir. Look, bro. Andy, >> notice this is where the safe is. Correct. >> Andy, >> do you not see that? How clear that video is? >> So, it's not we're not asking you this out of nowhere. He's asking you these questions for a reason, >> right? Your cooperation is key. >> I understand. >> I already have all the answers I need. >> Right. Okay. So, so, so can >> truthfulness goes a long way. >> Can I please talk to Andy? I can't go to jail. I I have a son that I have to take care of. >> Yeah, you can absolutely go to jail. >> I I I'm not >> I'm not going to let you sit here and talk to somebody into not pressing charges against. >> No, no. I wasn't going to I'm not going to do that. I just want to talk to him and see what's going on. >> I told you what's going on. I literally told you exactly what the allegations are against you and your defense is I don't know what I'm talking about. about my son though. >> Whose responsibility is that? >> That's my responsibility. Exactly. Right. And I did not take I You got me on video probably opening the the safe the the opening the cabinet. Yes. I probably opened the cabinet, but I did not take from the safe. I did not. I pro I opened up the cabinet yesterday. Yes. Because my arm has I'm trying to show you. I just had surgery on my arm. These the scar I have. >> Go ahead and stand up and sit, mister. Stand up. Sit next. Sir, I did not do anything. >> I don't understand. I didn't do anything. >> He's going to show you the video footage. >> Can I Can I please get this house taken off of me at least? >> All right. >> Damn. >> This is the only I'm not I'm not I'm telling you not to talk. You're not going to do anything. >> Okay. He's going to play you the video. >> Okay, fine. >> To prove that it's true. >> Fine. I All right. All right. Look, >> I didn't take anything out that safe. >> This video is going to show you different. Okay. Here's the video. >> All right. >> You have to do this, Dan. I have a son I have to take care of. Dan, >> I'm taking out of my paycheck. >> That's you. >> Take my paycheck. >> Why would you want to take stuff out of your paycheck if it wasn't if nothing was taken? That's you, right? >> He's saying that I took%. Yeah, I'm on my phone. >> That's you. Just wait. >> What? Yesterday. >> That's you 100%. >> Yeah. Uhhuh. >> You're watching the camera. Oh, open there. >> Yep. I'm looking. I'm looking. >> Take the envelope out. >> There's no envelope. Look. Look, >> sir. There's envelope. >> Look at your hands. Look right there. Cash. >> What is that? >> That is cash you're putting in your pocket. >> You didn't take anything though. >> That is cash that I put in my pocket, >> right? >> Did you forget about that somehow? >> No. >> You understand? Now you've obstructed my investigation. You lied to me. >> All right. I'm sorry. >> You have two felony charges now when all I wanted you to do >> I don't need two. No sir, sir. Sir, >> because this is BS. >> This is ridiculous. >> Oh, I can't do anything about this. >> No, please. Can we just >> If you were honest with me, I would have reduced it. Would you weren't honest? >> You reduced what? >> To just theft. Now you got a felony. >> No, this All right. Two felony. Sir, please. Sir, please listen to me. >> You had a chance. You know this game. >> No, I'm just listen to me. Listen to what I'm saying. Mike, listen. You can't come to jail. >> Yes, you can. Absolutely you can. >> Okay, fine. If you're going to take me to jail, >> I have no choice. These are felony charges. >> Who's pressing charges? >> This establishment. Why? >> Tiki, you stole their money. >> Just stole her. >> That is a crazy question to He's asked a lot of wild questions. Who's pressing charges? And why are crazy questions as they look at you in 1080p or 4K stealing out of the safe to the point that you made eye contact with the camera? funny. I I if I could just >> And you're an employee. That's a theft. >> All right. Well, I apologize if I could just >> That has nothing to do with you with talk. >> You had the ability to tell the truth and you lied. You still lied. I showed it to you on camera and you still want to say you didn't do it. >> All right. Listen, I'm sorry that I did that. My bad. I understand. >> You act like I'm stupid. Like, oh, darling, I'm stupid. Like your bosses are stupid. >> You think they're stupid? >> That's disrespectful, dude. So, go ahead and stand. Hold on. Let me go ahead and stand up, >> sir. Sir, please. I'm sorry, sir. Wait. Wait. We're going. You have no Don't do Don't make this work. >> Oh yeah. Gloves out. Cuffs out. They start putting them gloves on. The handcuffs are coming. >> Well, actually, you know what? If you want to hold him, I'll bring him. >> We're going to take him out the back. >> Does he have anything you need off of him? Like his shirt or anything like that? >> The a the apron and cab are right there. >> Yo, why would you charge me? >> I'm not talking to you. Come on, man. Like, you can figure something out. Like, why do you have to push this? You don't have to push this. I'm not putting it on you. I'm sorry. I'm not putting it on you. I'm just saying why this doesn't have to go this out there. You can just get this fire or something. You don't have to like cigarette. >> I have I have cigarettes. Please just one cigarette. Actually, look. Look. Look. >> Please. My back. My My cigarettes are right here. >> I don't have a lighter. >> I have a torch. It's in my pocket. Please. Right here. This pocket right here, sir. >> Stop moving. >> This pocket right here. My front pockets. Oh, I missed. >> That's why I said I just want to have one cigarette, please, before I go. Please. >> Oh, no. I have my >> Where are they? Please, please. Just want to see my my my parents will come pick up my bag and my stuff from my phone. Do you need my phone here, too? >> You want to leave your phone? >> My phone and my bag and everything. I guess >> you don't want to take your phone to the jail. >> I guess you have my phone there. Yeah, I know. Right here. >> They be too pressed about these cigarettes. Lord. And some I'm surprised the cop is going to let him have one. A lot of them are like, "I'm not letting you smoke." No. Stop asking me. Um, yeah. Talking about why did they have to take this route. You didn't have to steal. What are you talking about? Right. Enemy said the cop doing too much against bring him down. I can see when he got mad. I'll say that. Hey, girl dad. Okay, so the cigarette addiction is crazy. Um, again, if you're just coming in, he has already done stuff before. He was convicted for burglar burglary of a conveyance, basically a vehicle robbery. Um, yeah, he and the soft voice isn't going to help you not get charges. Like, the camera saw you. It is what it is. We're past that. Let's keep it moving. >> Don't write it if I got to touch it. >> Charlie was the first. >> He gave you the chance to talk to him, remember? And you kept whiny. I mean, they just didn't know that I was on camera. >> We told you you were on camera. I tried to explain that to you. And you were playing your whole game about your arm. >> We're not stupid. >> I did look for medicine in that cabinet. Come on. You're still alive. >> Ain't nothing worse than a dumb criminal. It doesn't matter if you actually also look for medicine in the cabinet. You stole. It doesn't matter if you actually have a burn you can show on your arm. You stole. Hold on. Hold on. >> You got it. I'm going to grab his property. >> I'm going to grab this stuff. Excuse me. Excuse me, ma'am. Is there a way that we could prop this open just cuz Or will you be here if I knock back? >> You'll open it for me? Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Oh my god. your feet. You have anything that's going to focus that you stand >> any holding on. >> You ever taken anything else? I never took $400 out of that safe though. >> It was 40 bucks. >> So it went from I never took anything to it was $40. >> Michael, you have a pathological liar mentality. >> I'm just saying you have you said me on camera. >> Yeah, I showed it to you and you still are going to say that you didn't take anything. >> I didn't say I didn't take anything. >> Well, it went it started that way. >> Well, I'm just trying to tell you >> which is absolutely ridiculous. I'm just trying to tell you that you want me to tell you the truth. on my phone and everything. >> You had that opportunity way before all this. >> I don't understand. >> I had to show you an actual footage. >> $400 came from. >> Yeah, that's the amount that you stole, sir. >> I only took >> That's what was missing. >> That's not the amount that I stole. >> That's the amount you're being charged with. >> Am I going to have a bond at least? >> You should. >> I don't know how much it's going to be. >> 5250. All right, try it. >> This is crazy. >> Can I Can I call my dad >> at the jail though? Give me the opportunity. >> My phone just to let him know. >> Have a seat >> cuz he he's by himself >> and he has heart issues behind. >> Just call him on my phone, please. >> Have a seat. You should have asked for the favor to call your dad with the heart problems instead of asking for the cigarette favor. You about you running out of favor. They I don't know if they're going to let you do that. >> These these pills like >> Yeah, they're not meant to be comfortable. >> No, just t the ball. >> Okay. >> I'm going to put the change in this glove or do you have a bag? >> I got a bag. All he had in his property was his AirPods and That was literally a guy you >> you give a guy that said to the the >> It's literally the clearest video I've ever seen. >> Yeah. And then you he still has >> And then he goes, "I only score 40." >> Go a lie about it. I thought >> I thought that was funny when he goes, "I only took 40." >> Don't steal at Kiki's breakfast spot or whatever that was called. It was Kiki something. Do not steal there. They got some clear cameras. All right. You good? >> Yes, sir. >> Hey, by the way, your trespass from here, you can't return for the period of one year. I'll have your uh your copy in there in your property. >> Thank you, sir. >> Yes, sir. >> You give a >> You give a guy the the >> Hey, that's our police officer. This is Florida. I see him on so many body cam channels. He does a lot of financial fraud, too. He does a like the bank frauds. If I ever catch him again, I'll point him out to you. Um, but yeah, he's always on there. He might have What was this? Oh, this is 2023. So, he might have gotten promoted since then and he's doing more bank fraud stuff now cuz I've I've seen him in the banks. But yeah, I see him all the time. >> The clear. >> Yeah. And then you you still has And then he goes, "I'm gonna score the goals to lie about it. It's ridiculous." >> I thought that was funny. He goes, "I don't." >> Yes, sir. Hey, by the way, your trespass from here, you can't return for the period of one year. I'll have your uh your copy in there in your property. Thank you, sir. Yes, sir. You what? >> Okay. Nervous has nothing to do with lying. Your apology does it doesn't affect me any whether you lie to me or not. I just again you make the bed that you lay in. I gave you an opportunity. Obviously there's reasons why cops come and talk to you at your place of employment. That was the time for you to be completely honest. >> Should money in the first place. That that's that's the reason that's your lesson that you're not learning. Don't break the law and you won't be in trouble for that. That's the only issue, dude. >> And I just finished. >> You should have stayed that way. >> Well, that's between you and the company, not >> so he's going to steal again and again. So, he just said they were missing money from his paycheck that they owed him. That's his now. That's his reason besides looking for the band-aid at first, but he, you know, earlier he said, "Why didn't they just fire me?" like it's everything but you don't steal so you don't go to jail. He's gonna keep stealing >> to take money from the company. So I just want to know did that car steal from him too? Cuz why did you burglarize that car? talking about you stole they as short as your check. Why did you burglarize the car? Did the car steal from you? Oops. Okay, I would totally play this game. We need some more uh officers that we're familiar with, but this would be fun. I would play that game because we do see some a couple of repeats. There's a fe there. She might be Florida, too, cuz there's a a woman officer that don't take no crap. She does traffic stops and stuff. She might have responded to a couple of DV calls. I never saved it, but when I hear her voice, I know it's her. And then um I finally I think I have seen her face once, but I've always seen his face. We need more regular faces cuz I would totally play cop bingo or whatever. Cop face bingo. Okay, this one is 71 cashier caught stealing from registers. 11th, 2023, officers responded to a 7-Eleven store after receiving reports of a theft. >> So, the guy up front, he's got him. We're still He's been short. How much are you short now? >> 436, maybe $6, >> right? And he started watching video and he hasn't We found a couple so far where you can visibly see him putting the money in his pocket. >> Okay. Um, let's just do >> Are you guys wanting to pursue criminal charges? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And then he's going to pocket that part. >> Okay. >> And then there's another incident. We're still looking for it. >> As of right now, there's just the two. This one and this one. Correct. >> He has these two, but I didn't realize they were 10 minutes off from that video from this video. >> But for right now, those are the two right now that I know of. >> Is this supposed to be 49 or is this 39? Okay. >> I just want to make sure it's all >> Yeah. >> So, these this is the same incident. It's just that it's on a different >> Yeah. I'm just trying to find here. >> Perfect. Okay. >> Okay. Before we get to this cashier, if it's the guy I'm thinking of, I want y'all to tell me when you think I lost sympathy for him. Cuz I actually had a little sympathy for him. I did. Let me know at what point you think I lost sympathy for him. I'll I'll tell y'all when it gets to it. >> Hey, boss. Come here for a second. Hey, come here for a second. I'm not done with your fire. You're not leaving right now. You're not free to go. Come on out here. Come on out here. >> You don't need weapons, firearms, anything like that on you? >> No. >> Okay. Come on over here. Talk to me. Can't leave after you talk to me. Not for you to go. You understand that? >> Okay. Come right back over here. Your dad. What happened? It >> was in a car accident. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Do you know why I'm out here? >> No, I have a feeling though. >> Okay. Do you have any firearms weapons on you? >> No, I'm just >> Okay, just put your hands kind of over there. I'm just going to put your backpack over to the side. All right, let's set this down. Just relax your arms. Relax, man. I just got to talk to you. Okay, let me read you something first, okay? And then if you want to be honest with me, I'll work with you. Just give me some space. I like >> Oh, I'll be I'll be real. I'm tired. Nobody here. >> All right, but let me read you something. Okay. Does not mean you're going to jail or anything like that. I just have to advise you of some rights. >> I appreciate honesty. You know, that's always the best course of action. So, before we ask any questions, you must understand your rights. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in court. You have a right to talk to lawyer for advice for you. Ask any questions and to have them with you during questioning. If you can't afford a lawyer, one will be appointed for you for answer any questions if you wish. If you decide to answer questions now, the lawyer present, you still right to stop answered any time. You also have the right to stop answer anytime until you talk to a lawyer. Do you understand what I read you? >> Yes. >> Okay. With that being said, are you willing to talk to me about this? >> What's going on here? >> Nobody out here. >> Can you say yes or no? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Why do you think I'm here? >> Cuz I have took some money. >> Okay. That That's why I'm here. >> Yeah. >> Like I said, doesn't mean we're going to take you to jail, but um Do you know how much you took? >> I honestly don't. But I can tell you the reason I took it and wait, >> but I cannot go to jail. I promise. I >> Well, I didn't say you would. >> Yeah. Right. Right now what I see it may or may not arise to that may just be a court date but I don't know. >> Okay. So I took some money right. >> Okay. >> I am currently in college. >> Sure. But don't cook me. >> Yeah. >> My dad my dad is single. >> Okay. >> And he has to pay for college for all of us. So >> it's he's kind of struggling. >> I got you. >> So I owe some in order for me to continue to go to college. You got your ID on you? >> I'm just going to give this officer so we can put you in the call. >> So was it like to continue your education? >> Yes. That's why I took it. I I I probably took no less than I don't know, probably under a,000, I think. >> Right. >> So, I can I can pay it back however, but I think I have like I'm this close to finishing school. >> Okay, we'll figure it out. We'll see what's going on. I'm going to see what the store wants to do and everything. I I do have you on video taking some of it. I don't know the whole amount. Two two different days that I've seen so far. Just keep your hand out of your pocket. I know you don't have these things and stuff like that. I appreciate you being honest with me. >> Yeah, man. I um what >> you can still finish college with a record, right? You might lose like like say you were an athlete, you might lose the athletic scholarship or something, but as far as actually still graduating from college, can't you still graduate from college with a uh with with a certain record? I I'm I'm honestly curious about this cuz I don't understand how you can't finish cuz it's, you know, even if they took him to jail, they take him to jail for a day or two, you postpone, you still got to go do your regular life till you wait for court, blah blah blah. So, I want to know like what do you mean like h I don't know. >> I did was stupid and you know I I take >> but just so y'all know this is where my sympathy kicked in as far as oh he was trying to do it for college but it doesn't last long for me. full responsibility. >> What are you taking in school? >> Computer information technology. >> Okay, that's a good field to be in. >> Yes. >> Well, hang tight. We'll figure out what's going on. Like I said, you're just being detained for now. You're not under arrest. I don't know if any of that would arise to anything that would need that. Sometimes what happens is you get arrested on scene, released on scene with a court date, but let me see what the store wants to do. Okay. You ever been arrested before? Okay. >> Nothing like that. >> Is your dad really in a car wreck or you just trying to leave because of this? It's all right. I'm It's not going to change what I'm going to do. >> Yeah. No, he wasn't. >> I didn't I didn't think so. >> I was just nervous. >> I don't blame you. >> I should have I should have I should have told him when I did it, but >> hey, mistakes happen. I I'll put it to you this way. It takes a big man admit when they're wrong. >> I I need the money. >> I got you. Well, bear with me. We'll see what's going on. Okay. >> You didn't take any currencies today? >> No. >> Okay. >> You're being honest and we appreciate that. Honesty goes a long way with it. Does >> you already admitted, >> right? All right. >> Don't be stupid to make it go even worse. You know what I mean? >> I was just nervous. >> Don't be nervous. We're going to treat you like a man and stuff like that. >> I mean, I get it. Everybody's made mistakes. >> Yeah. 17 years of the first marriage. >> There you go. >> But we'll see what's going on with it. >> J28. Hey, this is a good guess. J28. I actually still kept my sympathy until a different point in the video. It wasn't even cuz I knew he was lying about his dad's car wreck as soon as he saw the cops. Oh, I was about to leave. My dad's in the wreck. I knew he was lying. It was another reason that y'all will see. And y'all like y'all might be like, "This is the most petty reason that you lost sympathy." But this is not it. But this is a great one. This is a great one uh point. >> So, she can do first or second. Her husband says she can't do third, which is why she can't look at me. So, I constantly knew Eric. >> Yeah. >> Um, did you guys want to fire him? >> I just want to make sure on that. Um, >> he's only been with us for like two weeks. >> And then do you guys want him trespasser? November Delta Romeo Yankee first name Victor November Charlie Echo November Tango last video 1966 white out there if he's not >> he probably knows at this point >> or if you want to let know that the so the drawer was short like $460 $439 or something like that, but we can only confirm that he took 60 on that day. >> As of right now, they're going to look at the videos more, but Not right now. It's not 10:15. >> Okay. >> All right. Anthony, >> you come with us for me. >> Stand up for me. >> Oh my gosh. >> Yeah. He's going to grab that. >> Just let him get your your car. Yeah. >> Oh, well. We'll we'll explain to you what they're saying. I'm going to put two of these cuffs on you just so it doesn't hurt your arms cuz you're a big guy, right? >> Relax. Okay. So, I I get the impression that they don't want to hear it. I understand the reasons what you've told me. >> Although I disagree with them, I understand them. >> Can I like please talk to them? Like, please. Okay. No, >> I'll bring one out here. >> Hang tight. >> But that that conversation will be very very short. I can tell you >> what they just told me. >> You're fired and you're trespassed on the property. I don't believe they're going to be whatever story you provide is not going to be wellreceived. You see what I'm saying? >> Ask I would like to try. >> Hold on. >> I'll ask if they want to, but they don't have to. >> He's going to go find out. I stick to the same thing I said before. They've called the police. They don't want to talk to you anymore. >> Yes, sir. He's >> He's requesting to speak with somebody to plead his case in hopes of not being arrested. >> Well, hang on. Hang on. >> Do you care to hear it? >> Sure. I don't care. He's going to get arrested regardless, so it doesn't matter if we hear it. >> Well, that that's the thing. I would I would if you don't if it's not going to change your opinion, there's no reason for him to talk to anybody. >> Cool. So, he won't. >> Okay. >> I appreciate the officer for not letting him go talk to her knowing it wouldn't make a difference because although I believe, hey, you stole, you got to deal with the consequences. He also don't have to go humiliate himself or say something else and waste his breath if she's like, I'm just going to be entertained by this. So, I appreciate the cop being like, you know what? Nah, we're good. You already said you still want him arrested. Are they double locked? >> They are. >> Okay. So, nothing you say is going to change their opinion. Okay. >> Can you give his ID? >> Yeah, I have him. I have it marked in my pocket. >> And here's your vehicle. Where's your keys at? >> It's in your pockets or something. >> Oh, okay. >> I'll secure this in your vehicle. What all do you have? Let's walk out by your car. We'll figure out what you need. Okay. All right, man. Where are you parking? >> Okay, the gray car. >> Yep. Let's head over towards that. Put it in the bag. Anthony, is there anything in this I should be concerned with? >> You got me for a minute. You're killing me right now. You parked in a disabled person's park somewhere. >> I got a handicap tag. >> Okay. >> Is it for you? >> My uh my little brother. >> If it's not for you, then you can >> how it works. >> I mean, my little my little brother goes to college with me. Do you need anything for that? What all do you have on my wallet? My phone. You >> going to take your wallet and phone with you? You want to >> All right. I wanted to give y'all a second. See, this is where I lost my sympathy. You parked in the handicap spot of your job. You used to doing it. That means to me, you not trying to work hard and you just fell on hard times. Also, like, I don't know. Oh, it was just something about it that told me everything I needed to know. And I'm going to say this and I've said it before. Don't trade your freedom for stealing. Like just unfortunately, you have to give up some more of your time for more money. And it is not easy out there. A lot of us have gotten it out the mud. A lot of us are still getting it out the mud. But to you're still free and you could have he could have still he's in a temporary situation. Say if he's just about to graduate going into it, he was about to change his circumstances anyway. That was going to be a temporary situation. But you pick up more hours somewhere, try other things, but this is not going to be the answer cuz now you will be judged on your past obviously. But then to park in the handicap spot, you know, that's his number one spot every day he went to work. You can't tell me otherwise. I just didn't like it. it. I was like, "Okay, now I I revisit. You lied about your dad being in the car wreck now and you parking in the handicap parking spot. It's just I'm done." >> Okay. They're not going to let you take stuff like that. Take all this stuff with you. Cell phone. Okay. >> Anything else in your pockets? >> Not that I know of. >> You want to take your cash with you? >> It should help me get out. >> Yeah, it's probably a good idea that your wallet >> like that. >> Yeah. >> You think it's possible I'll get out today? >> Yeah. >> You get you out there fast enough? Yeah. >> Yeah. Cuz they're going to Yep. I'll explain that to you. But yeah, there's an excellent chance that can happen. >> Gota go to first appearance. >> Got keys. >> Yep. >> First appearance. >> Unless you're able to bond out. >> So, we'll explain that to you. >> Hang on. >> Yeah. So, this is what happens. >> We go back to our station. >> We already got basically the information from you. >> Yep. >> The officer types it up. >> I come in. I read it. Yep. >> It looks good to me. >> Yep. Uh, we didn't miss a compliment on them. >> Yep. >> You get taken out to the county where you get in process. If you're able to bond out, you can bond out from there. >> How much I ask how much you think the bond is? >> Uh, I don't remember top of my head. Changes a lot. >> S. >> Uh, well, bond is 10% of the Well, bond and then you can get a bail bondsman and that's 10%. which is like 150 bucks if you get a bail bondsman to uh approve to bond you out. Okay, >> I'll explain it again. >> As of right now, we're the only people who know about this. >> Yep. >> I like my dad can't find out about this. I'm like, >> we're not going to tell anybody. How old are you? >> I am 22. >> We're not going to tell him. He would have to do a lot of research to find that. You know, >> he's probably going to call my phone or some or something. >> Oh, yeah. We won't answer. >> I'm also going to make sure that check again. >> And there's nothing. Are you wearing a belt? >> Nothing in your socks. >> Take this off. Get there, too. >> All right. Have a seat. >> Yep. >> Take your time getting in there. You're a bigger guy. Yep. Put a seat belt on you just for safety. And I'm going to turn the AC right on. >> Yeah, I'll explain you how you can get out. As soon as we get my take off, right? >> I'm going to just run him over there. >> Anything. That way I can take that stuff off of him. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> He was charged with theft of property by an employee. Sh. >> Okay. Theft of property by an employee. Uh Daytona Beach is where they were. Uh, the other one where they lit the cigarette for him was Florida. Um, okay y'all. Why I got so many of these picked out? Okay. I have employee thinks she can outsmart police. Instantly regrets it. Now, I don't know. This is the Home Depot one. I think I'm going to say that this older lady did not did not think she could outsmart police, but she did think she could have outsmarted Home Depot and not got caught doing what she did. But she didn't really say too much to the police like that in my opinion. But here we go. >> Respond to a Home Depot after an employee is identified using her cashier ID to facilitate the theft of over $5,700 worth of merchandise over a six-month period. >> It's been going on at least since September. >> Okay. >> We didn't know until >> um so she was we have a thing where you can like let's say you scan something twice, you can remove one thing, >> right? That's how she got caught. Okay, cuz she scanned something twice, removed it. Same customer every single time. Um and then at that point, she passed two plants. Um but since then, she's passed $5,700 worth of stuff since September. >> Okay. >> Um to the same customer. Uh she claims she doesn't know that customer. She claims she does that she agrees that it happened because I did my homework, but she doesn't remember any of it. >> Okay. So, uh, the interesting thing is the other associate that she passed merchandise to works for that customer. Okay. Part time. >> So, but she claimed she didn't know that either. >> She was telling me that uh, whoever this customer is, corporate's going to be, >> we'll we'll go after her as well. Yeah. >> All right. >> Uh, she actually owns an animal hospital really close to here. I'm assuming that's where all >> is an animal hospital. But >> um >> so that's what she's primarily been taking is >> flooring paint and then it's uh the most recent one March 9th was a DeWalt table saw >> and some tile. So she's obviously renovating something. I don't know if it's a I didn't go to the clinic. I don't know if it's a clinic or a house or I have no idea. >> So she's a functional thief stealing things for renovations. That's a not a very expensive renovation then. >> Yeah. Not like all your materials are free. >> Yeah. >> So, I'm just going to go in and let her know that we're terminating with and then you guys can go in. >> Okay. Real quick. Uh I can also take this since you were just helping out. >> I didn't know who I was talking to. >> No, it's all good. >> We're all the same. And you are the >> the district loss prevention. >> Okay. Uh, she also apparently works for something with a school board part time. So, she may she's making great choices, you guys. But hopefully that teacher is teaching my kids, man. Don't play. >> Hey, hi Lena. Right. >> Yes. Hey, I'm Officer Branch of the Palm Bay Police Department. Do you know why I'm talking to you? >> Excuse me? >> Do you know why I'm speaking with you today? >> No. >> Okay. So, um I know that you were just terminated from Home Depot. They ended up calling us uh in regard to what has been going on. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um and basically, I would just like to to ask you if you'd like to speak with us. >> Okay. Okay. So, basically, they would like to pursue charges um on this. So, I'm just going to read you your Miranda warning. >> Okay. >> Okay. If you want to get more comfortable and set your stuff down, you absolutely can. Um, but I'll just read you your Miranda warning and then we can go from there. Okay. >> You can read them to me. So, >> just that I have my diabetic um monitor on my phone and >> totally totally understand. I'm not going to >> and I just need uh What time is it? Cuz my >> uh right now it's about 12:24. >> Oh, I'm okay. Till 1. >> All right. Yeah, you just let me know. Okay. >> Uh, do you have automatic um pump for anything? >> No, it's in my bag. >> Okay. All right. So, you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and won't be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to talk to a lawyer and have one present with you while you are being questioned. >> Okay. >> If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one will be appointed to represent you before any questioning if you wish one. You can decide at any time to exercise these rights and not answer any questions or make any statements. Do you understand each of these rights that I've explained to you? >> Yes. >> Having these rights in mind, are you willing to speak with us? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, in regard in regard to this, I mean, is reportedly about $5,700. >> That's what they're saying. >> Okay. Well, tell me tell me your side. I can't recall their name. He named some person, random person that I have no knowledge of. And he says that it was ongoing and it was only that particular customer, never anyone else. >> Okay. Before um I keep asking you some questions, do you mind getting your driver's license out your employee? >> No. No. Uh, >> as far as, you know, the things that you're saying you don't call, did they explain to you? Did they explain to you the the method that you were using to attain certain things? >> Yeah, but they're only showing me one customer. I mean, they're pertaining to one particular person that I've been supposedly be doing this, but I have no recollection of who they are. >> Okay. What was the method that they were saying that you were using? um scanning three items and not the rest. Um letting things walk out the door. I >> Okay. >> I don't have that practice with anybody. So >> they don't have that what >> practice with anybody else supposedly out of all the thousands of scans that I've done. >> Right. >> It's just this one particular person. >> Okay. >> And I don't recollect that person. Um, >> when you say you don't like that person, this one person has been involved >> supposedly >> multiple times. >> Multiple times on this um supposedly that I've let go, not rung up. >> Uhhuh. >> Or, you know, let things go by. >> Okay. And if you don't know this person, but this person has come back multiple times, do you recognize? Could you recognize this person? >> It Yeah, if they would let me know who the person is. Yeah. >> Okay. Do you know or remember? >> Okay. So, she's doing the thing that that other lady tried to do as far as play it cool. She's playing it more cool and I don't remember. And as long as she don't say anything and just gets that lawyer, she might make it out a little bit more than that other lady. But this is how I feel like the Dollar Tree lady was trying to play it. >> For the items that you >> according to him, he said flooring, um baseboards, um um the walk uh I think saw he said, >> well, I and I'm not necessarily basing it just on what they're saying. I want I want you to tell me your side because of course we got called here because they called us. >> Um and you know what they are reporting is you know quite the theft. I mean that's a that's a felony level. >> Yes. >> How long have you been employed with? >> 5 years. >> 5 years. >> Mhm. >> Have you been in trouble for anything like this before? >> No. I've worked for a doctor for 15 years and he retired recently back in 2019. >> You worked for who again? >> A doctor. I was working for a doctor. He was an eye surgeon. He retired and I came to work here. >> So 5 years. How long have you lived in Palm Bay? >> Um about 20. >> Yeah. Do you have any any friends that are currently doing a remodeling? >> No. and my house doesn't need Well, my house needs remodel, but I haven't uh started any procedure on that yet. >> Okay. >> So, why do you believe that they are saying that you're doing this? >> I have no idea. Okay. >> If I were to give you a name of someone who supposedly has all of these items, would you tell me if >> I know them? >> Mhm. >> Sure. >> What's the name of the person? >> Butler. No, I don't know it. That's the name he gave me in there as well. I don't know. I've never I have no association with her or ever met her. Don't know even what she looks like because he don't show me any of the photos. >> It just seems a little weird that they, you know, call us. They go through the process of >> That's fine. It's It's what they got to do. I mean, I'm not >> You just seem kind of like nonchalant about it. I would be very upset if I was in your position. a lot because you it's like, you know, I'm I I only work here part time and, you know, I've done the best. Um, my my attendance is spectacular. I'm always here and um they call me, I work, you know, so if this is the way they want to look at something, I mean, I can't help them. It's embarrassing that they have to go through this cuz I work for the school board as well. And um I tutor >> children, you know, so I'm going to have to just clear my name because they wanted me to come on board full-time. >> Yeah. >> And I can't do that now with this. So I don't know what to say. >> Yeah. Well, I don't want you to make up anything. I mean, if it's not if it's not true, it's not true. However, based on the things that we have, of course, like we have to we have to take the next steps. >> Okay, I take it back. I just didn't remember. She She is trying to outsmart the police on here. Let me know what y'all think about that part of the title where it says employee thinks she can outsmart police instantly regrets it. Let me know cuz I'm like, now you are. I thought she was just going to be quiet. >> So, they would like to pursue charges. So, you are going to be in custody um for that. Do you have any further questions for her right now? >> Not right now. I don't know. >> Okay. Um, is there anyone >> at home that you need to call or coordinate a a ride with your vehicle? >> Well, I Well, I have a vehicle. Um, I can meet you at the station whichever way you want. >> No, that's not how it's going to work this time. So, this time you coming with us. >> Okay. Um, but that's why I'm asking if you can call anybody to come get your vehicle or where where are your where is your insulin at? >> Uh, in Well, I have my my bag in there. So, I have to go get my insulin at home. >> Where is your bag? >> In my locker. >> In your locker. Okay. So, you haven't cleared out your locker at all yet? >> No. All I need is my bag. It's all in there. >> All right. >> And I left my uh apron there. So, Let's walk to your locker and uh get your bag. Okay. >> Okay. >> Get your stuff out of her locker. >> Get you right in here. >> She's She's lucky they actually didn't put her in cuffs already cuz as soon as you leave out that little room at Walmart and those places, they put you they put you in those cuffs. >> Can we do it outside? >> So, I'm going to walk right alongside you. I know you've been super respectful, but this is just our policy. Okay. So, I am going to cuff you and it's going to be in the front. >> Really? You're going to embarrass me in front of all of my >> I'm not I'm not going to embarrass you. >> Oh, I forgot about that moment. So, yeah, you doing the most. You're going to embarrass me in front of all these people? Are you kidding, man? Wow. Audacity definitely has shown up. >> Okay. Um I'm just So, you want to do it in the front? I'm just feeling I have to I have to do this. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Super loose. I'm not going to move anything like that. Okay. December 7. >> 268. Can you show one thing while make sure that my keys are held up on the Yep, they are. Oh, okay. Just making sure we forgot that I left them off on the side. Did he say horse? Okay. Just put your hand. It's not uh not the most comfortable. >> All our stuff up with you. >> Okay. >> What's that? >> I'll check all this stuff up. Thank you. >> Real quick. >> All right. >> All right. Just raise your right hand for me. So you tell me truth. All truth. much truth. >> Yeah. >> You understand? Lying is bad. >> What? >> Lying is bad. >> Lying is bad. >> Lying is bad. >> I would agree. Lying is bad. >> There you go. >> The employee was charged with one felony count of grand theft between $5,000 and $10,000. The total validated loss to Home Depot from the alleged internal scheme over 6 months was $5,72.81. That's almost how much that other lady stole from Dollar Tree in deposits. I feel like hers was 5,300. This one's 5,700. Yeah, you had some audacity. She did it over 6 months. She spread that thing out. And like he said, she made a mistake when she accidentally duplicated that thing and when she tried to remove it. So, I mean, if she act like this, I guess I have to give it to him on why he looks satisfied with himself. Cuz she Uhuh. You can't act like that. you was actually stealing. All right. Um I I just want to say before we go to the next video, y'all that are lasting with me this whole shift are tickling me. I love it. And then for those of y'all that are coming in on your shifts, I'm just getting I'm I don't know why, but I'm making myself laugh over here. Like, okay, my second shifters are starting to come in. All right, so we have shoplifting Instacart shopper terrified of upcoming arrest. This girl's facial expressions and body language was doing the most. She had me believing she was real scared. So, you probably seen her because the thumbnail is crazy. Um, you're not seeing the thumbnail right now, but another Instacart shoplifter. >> Sorry, guys. >> I'll be >> How's it going? How's it going? >> Hi. How you doing? Okay. So, it's actually 320. Okay. They said they just said like 98. >> So, this is over numerous days obviously. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. Did she already sign the uh trespass and all that? >> Yeah. We just What's the date? All right. Do you have a car here? >> Yes. Please don't take me. Please. Please don't take me. Please don't take me. I have to take it. So, >> do you have Does she have any groceries here? >> It's the car orders. >> Okay. No, >> they should. >> Are they going to cancel them? >> Okay. Are they going to cancel them or do you want to put them in your car and try to make the order? >> Yeah. I'll put them in my car. I'll put them in my car. >> Somebody call Tyler Perry for this type of stage play acting. Call him right now. >> Which one do you want to do? >> I'll put them in my car. >> Okay. All right. So, go ahead. Stand up. Do you have any money to pay your Okay. All right. But stand up. Come on. >> Okay. Are you going to keep >> I have no idea. We're going to go in front. We're just going to go in front. >> Put them. Yeah. Where's your car parked? >> Parking lot. >> Is it in the front? >> Yes. >> Is it all the groceries that are right outside? >> Okay. >> No need to be. >> All right. Report right there. Oh, we're done. Are you giving us a disc or doing a disc burn since it's over all the days? >> Okay. Cuz we're here all weekend. So, till 7 days. Okay. >> That last uh the one lady that was here the one day >> said you guys don't do the discs anymore. >> We try not to, but for some reason you guys aren't getting our emails from email. >> So, most of our our company policy is that we email it. >> Gotcha. >> With your department for some reason. >> Shocker. Yeah. >> Shocker. It's our department that's not working. So, is it up front? Your your car. Okay. Do you have your keys with you? >> Are they in here? >> They were here. >> They in my pocket right here. >> Is your car touch? >> No. Well, it's the trunk, right? >> All right. >> Right there. >> All right. We're going to We're going to push these both these carts. >> Yes, sir. >> Yeah. >> Well, I tell you what, we're going to combine them. Okay. >> Okay. Well, there is different. >> Listen, I I can't >> You'll have to figure it out. >> Did he explain to you what's going to happen regarding bond? >> Not yet. Not yet. >> Okay. >> Put that one in there. You have an ID on you. >> It's in your It's in your counter cuz I lost my I lost an actual >> But you have a car. You have a piece of paper. That's fine. >> It's my part. So that's why I just >> That's fine. That's fine. It's my car is all right. Well, that's fine. That's way anyway. I don't matter. What? Keep guessing. Okay, we're going to we're going to uh >> we're going to walk right there and you're going to watch us put all the all the stuff in. Then we're going to go to the car. >> I guess I picked some nice police officers for y'all on this one cuz we got another one trying to take the groceries. I don't know. Someone else coming to get the car to deliver these groceries. I don't know what's going on, but they are so nice. Um, thank you Leia's grandma for my super chat. You've been here over three hours trending. Thanks for all you do. Thank you for being here. I am motivated because of y'all and Leia's grandma. And who sent me a cash app? Hold on. It was a cash app that was sent last week and I was like, I want to say thank you. But y'all are donating back to the legal document fund because my losses that I'm pulling up like the one where Twitter uh sue Twitter sued a former engineer. She she definitely sound she sound like she stole that stuff. Um those lines of code. But thank you cuz I can pull my little lawsuits again. Mary Willis, that was who it was. Thank you Mary for my uh cash out the other from last week too. Thank y'all. Okay, we'll keep going. Got to hold it. I'm not okay. Can I leave my >> take my paper off cuz I don't have my notes around here. >> It's up to you if you want to leave that personal effects here. >> There's nothing in here. Can I have Can I >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No worries. Yes, you can have that. and this. >> Okay, that's fine. >> Can I put it in my Can you put it in my pocket? >> Yeah, absolutely. I'll put it in your pocket for you. Okay. Nothing here's going to poke me or anything. >> No, I don't have nothing on. >> All right. Okay. >> And you want to take this purse off? >> It's a ramen. >> Well, it's going to be a problem cuz it's not going to just leave it. >> Put this on. I don't know if this is >> just It'll be fine. I promise. >> Okay. Unfortunately, you're going to have to figure this out. >> What's What? >> Oh, that's that's fine. Fine. Go with this officer here. Walk this way. Hit by this car. Go this way. >> Huh? >> She's recording. J runs Ohio John David Adam 360 >> people record for everything >> we we have >> nothing but listen well we we record everything we do so >> well we're not understand that part >> copy John Dave Adam 3616 turn to a 2015 GMC silver in color shoplifting subject We have a warrant out of Bedford. Okay. 33 years old. >> Do you know you got a warrant out of Bedford? >> No. >> Okay. You bet. >> Girl, not you got a warrant, too. Yeah. Whoever said this ain't her first time stealing, which of course it wouldn't be. They thinking they they had a come up by masking it under Instacart cuz she got real orders and she got her fake shoplifting orders. At least she actually had an Instacart track record and she and she didn't say her twin was the one caught stealing. Thank you for the super chat. Just not blue. She said we missed the legal documents. So glad you're back to it. Thank you. Thank you. And if you ever need a fix, I have other ones that are not as pop cultury on legal at some point. So if you're just like, I just want to hear it being read, don't forget to go to legal at some point because there are some over there as well. Um, but if you didn't know, Candy and Todd's divorce, I have read. Megan the Stallion's defamation case, I have read. And then I just did Twitter uh versus a former engineer. >> What I got? >> I I don't know. You >> I listen, I don't know. >> Can I find out, too? >> Well, we're You'll find out when I find out. I heard I heard it. All right. So, I'll I'll ease your mind a little bit right now. >> Okay. >> Since you said you have no money, >> you have $0. >> Yes. You're probably 95% chance of probably just getting a PR bond. Basically, we're got some paperwork to do, give you a ticket, give you a court date, and you have to show up to court. Okay? >> If you don't show up to court, you'll get a warrant. Okay? >> And then if you don't show and that warrant is going to be a no bond. So basically, you're going to be held in jail until court. So whatever the court date is, when we get back, my suggestion is to show up to court. >> Okay? >> If you don't want to be stuck in jail, >> so I I hope that eases eases your mind a little bit here. Well, yeah. I mean, you still still in trouble, but I'll even do you another salad and pull into the garage so you don't have to walk in the cold. >> All right. So, I guess it was just whatever shoplifting theft it was cuz we didn't get a narration on that. But she Candace has a good point. That's why she keep her face looking good for when she's arrested. Probably gonna whip out a s press when a pit gets snapped, right? They gonna be like, "Okay, we have to take your head wrap off your your scarf off." And she's like, "Oh, okay." And then the hair is going to fall out boneless, just ready for a picture. She was ready. I could see it. I surely could see it. Okay, so now this one is employee arrested for passing off stolen merchandise to dad. I don't think I watched this one, so we'll watch this one together. >> On August 15th, 2024, police in Sikus, New Jersey responded to a call of an employee passing off merchandise to her father without the items being paid for first. The following body It's still silent. It's coming. >> So you know on camera audio just so you know we're on camera. >> I know where it is. You don't have to. I think you might want to have I guess. >> Yeah. >> 38. 1:30. >> Okay. How you doing? >> Good. >> What's going on? >> I'll leave you alone. >> Okay. Thanks, son. >> It's Home Depot again. I just realized it's Home Depot again. I thought for some reason it was going to be one of those Dollar General stores. >> Um, so we just had an associate that I was able to speak to today that was basically passing off merchandise to her father. >> Okay. >> And then she just admitted to she just admitted to it. So it was in the amount of this says $531. Um, but it was actually $776.82. So, she told us a couple more incidents, one that took place today and another one that we weren't aware of um or since the since we got here. So, we can just see like for example um this is what they paid for one of that pine, but this is this is all the other stuff, right, that went out. And it's just similar examples of the same one piece of lattice, but here's more stuff on it. And then just the same thing going on. So, it's just been under ringing non-stop. >> Yeah. Okay. >> So, so that's that. She's back in our ASM office. The individual who came to the store manager, he's going to just terminate her employment and then Okay. >> then we're good to go. And this is this is everything for you. >> Okay. Perfect. >> All right. Um and then I don't know if you need anything from me. >> Uh do you have the thing that shows the um updated uh map or that? >> Do you want me to just I can write it in there? >> Yeah, that's fine. >> Okay. All right. >> Um yeah. It should also Oh, sorry. It should be This is for this. So, this is her statement. >> Okay. And this is the restitution agreement with the total >> amount right there. Okay. >> So everything everything's in there. That's the video. >> Oh, perfect. >> The only thing that's not in here, like I said, is the updated items and stuff like that that she she told us today. >> Okay. >> So, >> all right. All right. Back in the >> Yeah, I'll I'll take you back there for you. >> No, you don't have to. Um I'm heading back there anyway. the witness is back there and I look over anything for me. Hello How you guys doing? My name is Cur Seahawks, please. Just so everybody's aware, I'm wearing body warm camera. It's recording audio video. Okay. >> Chelsea. >> Yes, sir. >> All right, Chelsea. Do you have an ID on your ch? >> No, I don't. >> All right. Getting my information. >> Yeah, perfect. Before we start, before we hear Chelsea's story, which I have not heard her story before, if her dad knew that she was stealing and giving that to him, that's messed up that you risking her job for this. I mean, she's she still has to make her own decisions, too. But don't help your daughter get in trouble. If he didn't know and he just thought she was giving him stuff from her great discount or something, you know, it is what it is. I just want to know that her dad know she was stealing. Okay, it should come back. I think it's redacted information right now. Dang, how much redacted information we got? That's a nine. >> Got it. >> All right. Real quick, Chelsea. >> Yes. >> I'm going to read you uh your Miranda rights. Okay. >> You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided to you by the court. A decision to wave these rights is not final, and you may withdraw your waiver whenever you finish uh whenever you wish, either before or during questioning. Do you understand the right to have it just right? >> Yeah. >> Yes, I do. >> With that, with these rights in mind, do you wish to speak to me? >> No. Okay. Just give me one second. >> Whoa. Someone is exercising their right to remain silent, but we still have 12. Y'all, why can't I do math? Why can't I do math? For Oh god, y'all. We still have a lot of time in this video. I can't. My brain won't do the math right now. 22 - 6. Okay, 16 minutes. We We We have 16 minutes left in this video. >> Sergeant on that call. Pretty clear. 202. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Speak to you. >> Okay. >> Not right this second. Just give me one second. Okay. Quick, too. I have a party by you running all around. Don't want to get arrested. >> Okay. Right now. >> God, y'all. She folded. She colani. Oh my god. She folded. >> You are being detained right now. The reason I asked you was rights is because I'm going to ask you what happened. >> I made a few [ __ ] up decisions working here. >> Okay. >> You know, and I let my father leave with some dings that I shouldn't have let him leave with. >> But I understand it's my fault. >> How much was the total amount? And >> what did you what did you guys take like some lumber and paint? I guess I don't know. Garbage can. >> Okay. >> And how long has this been going on? >> This has been 3 months, but it wasn't back to back. >> So just randomly. >> Do you know how many times you've done it? >> Maybe that's the most. That's it. But this >> my sergeant's coming. Do you mind? Yeah. >> You collect five. >> We're in the office behind the LTO office. I have a worker coming out to get me. >> Got it. >> And what was the situation? you were but >> that's just my grand having Alzheimer's and my dad's qu job and you know her card really isn't that much and I felt bad and but I've been telling him that you know it's not good I made a call and blah blah blah and but that's not the excuse I was thinking >> and um >> they are they pulling a lot of audio out of Mhm. >> So when when these events were happening, you were the associate in the front or >> the garden. >> You were the garden. Okay. So you were working like right by that exit. >> Yeah. >> Isn't that other a thousand? >> That's Not bad. No, you're under 1,000, but that doesn't hold 500. >> Do you have to cut me and walk outside? >> Do you have anything on you other than your phone? >> Just my phone. >> Okay. >> Put your hands on your back. Chelsea, is this yours? >> So, I saw her shirt. I haven't seen One Piece, but if you're a person that likes anime, um, on Netflix, there is a series called Devil May Cry. If you like anime, I'm I'm enjoying it. I love a good witty anime, and that's what I'm getting right now. I'm enjoying it just in case. Also, Blue-Eyed Samurai. Love Blueey Samurai. I'm waiting on the second season. What the heck is going on? Um, Castlevania, I also like some of these may not be true classic animes, and I'm okay with that, but that's what I'm watching right now. And I love all of them. >> Here, right in there in there. >> Phone in your back pocket. >> Chelsea, just real quick, I'm going to pat you down with the back of my hand just to make sure you don't need anything else on me. So, we're going to go over to headquarters. We're going to do a little bit of paperwork. Have you ever been arrested before? >> No. >> Okay. So, this is a shoplifting. All right. What's going to happen is based on someone's fingerprints. We're going to get a score based off of a prior criminal record if there was any. So, you don't have one. Um, most likely you'll receive a summon. You'll have a court date. You have to report and you'll be released from custody probably within the next hour. Okay. >> Corvin 22. >> Thank you. Appreciate it. Can you guys walk out for me one second? >> Can I just grab your real quick? >> Yep. >> Thanks, sir. >> I'm put >> Sorry, I'm skipping ahead. I know her charges cuz that's really all it not really like, you know, she ain't doing that much talking anymore or anything. They walk through this large large Home Depot parking lot. We about to skip to the end to see what's going on with these charges, >> the pictures, receipts, all that stuff. >> This stuff will go into property as evidence, but that stuff's going to go to the same uh same portal that our camera footage goes to. Okay. >> All right. Sounds good. All right. Perfect. Thank you. No problem. Have a good one. Come back. Police arrested a 25year-old female for shoplifting. She was issued her complaint summons and was released from police custody. Please leave. >> All right. All right. Well, there we go. That was antilimactic. Her dad definitely knew and he needs to be charged to po thing. She seems super young, too. Okay. Um, Family Dollar Cashier. I gotta write that one down because I'm trying to tag all the places these people have worked. Family Dollar Cashier caught red-handed in a $5,000 scam. Here we go. >> March 6th, 2024, a bold theft scheme was uncovered at a local Family Dollar. >> Okay, I have to fast forward cuz they have a little music in theirs and sometimes the music is copyrighted. It's weird. So, we're going to go up a little bit. and stolen merchandise. Here's what happened next. >> I know you called me. What's going on? >> Good afternoon. >> How are you? >> Good afternoon. >> We have an employee that is being under ringing like she will charge a dollar and let the customer leave this about $150 worth of merchandise uh multiple time during the month of January. multiple times in the month of actually a little bit in January, multiple times in February and the last one was on Sunday. Um I interview her, she's sitting in the back, wrote a statement, recording a statement. She admitted to what happened and uh we just called you guys. >> Okay. Do you have any evidence of this video? >> Uh I got full video and I got a recorded statement that >> I can't use a recorded statement because she's not issued her rights. So I can't use a recorded statement. So >> the statement I I took it and I didn't have to rehar. >> Yeah, but I have to >> under court of law under fourth amendment. >> Understood. >> Okay. Uh all right. >> Do you have a tally of ever how much he actually took? And we still haven't finished. How old is she? I believe she's 21. >> Hurry up. >> What are you Stacy Road. >> This is Dina. >> Hello, Dina. >> This is the officer. >> How you doing? >> Hi. >> You have an ID on you? >> It's in my purse. >> Where's your purse at? >> It's in the front. >> Okay. Okay. >> It's under the things. >> Okay. I'm pretty sure the store manager knows where it is. Um, >> Roger, come on. This >> is back there. >> What's going on? >> So, um, my LP. Yeah. >> Um, what's going on? >> Pretty much as explainer um since the beginning of February. >> Mhm. She pretty much knew people from Facebook and regular customers >> and she's in a tough situation with her family and she fig I let you take the merchandise you want. All I need is $50 to $80 coming to me in cash and I will ring every other item. So she will boy >> that's really bold. So the family give her a little little something little cash and then you just they going hog wild apparently in there cuz I'm it's seeming like they living with a pretty goodized cart and they and and they not having to pay for these groceries. I'm with Auntie Natty. Why you risking your job for this? These people will not help pay your bills when you lose this job >> items or not even ring it. So you can see transaction when she at the invoice it >> okay >> to zero or you can see when she only scan a lollipop for 35 cents a dollar and then you see like a full buggy leaving the store full of merchandise. >> Do you have um do you have the videos uh each time get in time? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Um do you have a a laptop or anything? I can view it. I can look at some view right now in the screen. >> Yeah. You also have this which is also a log of everything right >> out of everything so far. Some of the stuff is not log. >> Um I'm going to talk to you for a minute but I I don't want you to stop calling anybody. I don't want people to start showing up here and >> ain't nobody going to show up here but I'm not just going to I can't get in contact with my fiance going to go to jail and nobody knows where I am. >> I'm not saying I don't know whether you going to jail. >> I'm a convicted felon. I already dealt with police so many times. I'm not. >> Did she say I was a convicted felon? I've dealt with police so many times. I'm going to go back just a little bit. >> Just going to I can't get in contact with my fiance. I'm just going to go to jail and nobody knows where I am. >> I'm not saying I don't know whether you going to jail. >> I'm a convicted felon. I already dealt with police so many times. I'm not dumb. There's a reason y'all came. I'm not stupid. >> Well, someone makes a complaint, I have to come I have to respond and investigate. Okay? So that's that's why I'm here. Do you understand? So >> now it it's up to interpretation if you not maybe you're not you you might be a little dumb because you rung up a candy bar and you letting people walk out of here with full carts. So I mean >> give me a second. So which one can report uh read it to me? 35 >> at 135 35 at 13 >> 35 >> 25 >> 25 something like this years ago. two females where they used to have coupons. So they would every customer after a certain amount of money they're supposed to get a coupon like a dollar $2 off. So >> this is one of the concepts here. >> All those items uh how much um >> y'all they showed the video for this one. She's in her bright red shirt. They they do have video. They're not blurring out the video for this one. I'll try to Hold on. Let me enlarge my thing a little bit. Uh hopefully it'll let me Oh god, I shouldn't have done that. Hold on. Hopefully I can get it back. Okay, here's the video a little bit bigger. The transaction 900. >> Yeah, that's 100. But how much did the customer pay for? >> 59 cents. >> 59 cents. So >> over 100 on that particular one. 359 cents. So what's what was the date? >> Uh the day over there is March 5th at 12:21. >> So 35 >> that will be Sunday. That will be the last transaction. >> 1221. >> What's the next one you got? >> Um 33. >> 33. What time? >> 1956. Are you able to pull the the receipt >> and he ready to pull these logs out the >> Yeah. So, let me go back here. >> That customer paid you nothing. >> This is another customer that paid. >> What was the date? uh March 3rd, Sunday, 1956. >> So the other one was March 5th. >> Y'all right. She just hooking up the whole neighborhood. Just whoever. Oh man. It's not worth it. Say they decide to go after the customers too. That cuz the customers know they stealing. It's not worth it. >> Right. And this one is more to >> Yeah. We're going Yes. >> Yeah. To biggest question. We all want to prostitute >> 100%. >> Yes. >> What uh what was the time? >> Uh time is 1957. >> So 7. >> This is a lady with the pajamas. Mhm. >> There's over $150 in here or more. And how much did she pay? >> 5950. >> What if we calculated her when we look at the product over 150? Yeah. So, she said she's she's been going through some financial difficulties. And >> that's what she say on the on the video, I mean on the recording and during my statement that she was doing it for her kids. >> For her kids. Okay. And she, you know, she would let him go and then they would give her money. >> Yeah. I guess uh they they know her from the streets. >> Okay. >> So they know to come from the area to come to the directory and then they will give her the money like in a little piece of paper. >> $50 to $80 above. >> And I have a reading statement if you want to read it. >> I think we have enough as long as we have all the videos. Yeah, we were going to you sent us the link. >> What's going to happen is for prosecution purposes, we need someone with expertise to explain all that to the state attorney's office. Okay. I'm going to need your information. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, I'm going to talk to her real quick and then let me give you this and I need to >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, what's the [ __ ] here or which we can leave if you want? >> Yeah. >> This was bad. Now this is bad. You in front of the camera scanning hundreds of hundreds of dollars worth of groceries at a time, charging them 59 cent for the transaction. and and and you got the nerve to say, "I'm not stupid. I know it's bad." Well, okay. All right. And what do you get out of it? That that's not enough money that she collected from them to pay for the bond probably that she now is going to get. And if so, not the fines, the court fees, and everything else. Not what was this for? What was this for? See that? All right. Can you turn around for me? All right. So, I guess they already talked to you. No, you turn around, fish. I guess they already talked to you. Who's that? >> That's my people. I I don't even know what's going on. >> Ain't got the nerve to have an attitude. Okay. Um, I guess they already talked to you and um and you talked to him about what's been going on, right? >> Um, I need to get get a statement from you and and find out >> the same statement I gave them. I wrote it on the paper. >> I listen, I don't know what they do, okay? My job is to I'm impartial, okay? My job is to talk to you and find out what's going on. Okay? I need to ask you, >> find out money from people and then arrange them. Just just give me give me a second. Just give me a second. Okay. I'm going to ask you a few questions and I'm going to you know you you watch TVs. I have to advise you of your constitutional rights. Okay. And then I'm going to ask you a few questions. Do you understand? Um, I need to ask you a few questions. Are you under influence of drugs or alcohol right now? >> Weed. >> Huh? You smoking weed? >> What? Uh, what's what is the highest level of your education of education? Eth >> 8th grade. >> Um, did you play any sports in school or softball? >> Softball. I am required I'm required to warn you before you make any statements. I'm required to warn you before you make any statements. You have the following constitutional rights. You have the right to remain silent and not answer any questions. Do you understand that? Any statement you make must be freely and voluntarily given. Do you understand? Is it's recording. You have to say yes or no. >> Yeah. I just feel like if I'm going to jail, there's no reason for me to explain anything. >> I'm just >> I just I want to say that I'm going to jail. I listen before I ask you any question I have to read your rights it's it's by law okay um you have the right to the presence and repres presentation of a lawyer of your choice before you make any statement and doing any questioning do you understand >> if you cannot afford a lawyer you are entitled to the presence and representation of a courtapp appointed lawyer before you make any statement and doing any questioning do you understand >> if at any time dur during the interview you you do not wish to answer any questions. You are privileged to remain silent. Do you understand? >> Yeah. >> I can make no threats or promises to induce you to make any state to make a statement. This must be of your own free will. Do you understand? >> Yeah. >> Any statement can and will be used against you in the court of law. Do you understand? >> Yes. >> Do you understand those rights which I've read to you? >> Yeah. With those rights in mind, are you choosing to speak with me? >> Um, the only thing I got to say is if I'm going to jail, I don't want to answer. >> Listen, I All right. So, what I'm trying to tell you is that if someone says something, I've I've known you for for I' I've come here and I talked to you, whatever. I don't know anything about you. All I say is, "Hi, how you doing? I come to you. I I purchase whatever I need to purchase and I work that." I don't know anything about you. someone says something, I need to know what happened. Okay? Cuz a lot of time people say, "Hey, did you talk to so and so?" Yeah, she was nice. She told me what happened. You know, she was having some issue, whatever. So, I can present that to whoever I need to say to. But what I'm trying to say is that I can't just go by what someone say. I have to talk to you and get your side of the story. Okay. All right. Um, how long you been working here? November. October. November. >> So you've been working since October? >> October or November. >> Okay. >> Mhm. >> You part time or full time? >> Full time. >> Full time. Um, you work normally day shift, right? >> Both. >> Day and night. >> Are you married? Have kids? I >> have kids. >> How many kids? >> Three. >> Three kids. This is where I'm with it. They're going to arrest you anyway. You You had You have your little attitude, but you had one part right. You said you was going to be quiet. I would have just stayed quiet. Ain't nothing you can say to explain this away. Just be quiet. Um, also if you're not able to look at your screen, I was asking, let me know other compilation topics that y'all would want to see just in case I don't already kind of have it in my list of things to try out. I'm trying to always look for different varieties of stuff. Some of these, boy, some of these are good. Okay, we'll keep going though. >> Do you like working here? >> Do you have any problem with anybody here? Um, who's your Roger's your supervisor, right? Yep. >> Okay. Have do you have any issue with him? Okay. So, um like with with the transaction, can you tell me like what's what's going on? Like I my cuz I don't want anybody to come here and put a gun to your face and threaten you and whatever and and then we're going to have to go hunting down and and and find out. Just make sure that didn't happen. Okay. I just that's why I need to get a status stone from you to make sure that you're not you're safe that no one threaten you or anything. Nobody threatened me. >> I I can't hear you. >> Nobody threatened me. >> Okay. All right. Can you tell me what's going on? >> I just said I rang people up with they gave me money and that was it. >> So you you charge them more charge them less than what the value of the the merchandise. >> Huh? How much you normally get from them? >> This all depends. 60 80 100 depends the person the I I don't know. It's just different prices. I don't know. I'm going to hurt >> y'all. My brain my brain just said, "Imagine watching her body cam on YouTube and you were one of the people that paid her to let you get a discount on other items and you find out you the one paying a hundred while another person only paid $40 to get the items at a discount." >> Explaining the same [ __ ] >> So like between $50 to $100. Um these people that normally like do they know you or do you know them like >> the street? >> The street like in the neighborhood >> around? Yeah. >> Okay. Like do they know to come to you or how does it work? >> If we're doing the same statement the man just took from me on a piece of paper. I I I that what I'm trying to say is that I just I need to >> It's either I know them and they just come in to shop and they see me there and that's just what I do. I don't call nobody. Like I I don't like that's what I'm saying. If I'm going to jail, there's no point to explain all this cuz I'm going to go to jail with a migraine and aggravated as [ __ ] Like >> they already got the video. I'm saying they got all that. Like I don't >> you you can you can stop. You can say at any time I don't want to talk to you. I don't want to talk about this anymore and then I'll stop. Do you understand >> at this point they got the video and everything. So there's explaining myself ain't going to do nothing. >> But what I'm trying to tell you, >> he's telling her verbatim what she would need to say. And he will stop asking her questions. But she's so stuck in her attitude. She's not even hearing that he honestly is telling her this is how you won't have any more questions put towards you right now. is that I need to get your side of the story and I told you already. You can at any time you can say, "Hey, I don't want to talk to you. I don't want to talk about this anymore." >> I already explained I was not I was getting money from people and >> she said, "Do you think I'm done?" Again, he's telling you what you have to say. So, if you say anything else, if you ask a rhetorical question, well, why should I still talk? That's not you saying I'm invoking my rights. I don't want to talk to you anymore. I wasn't bringing everything up about who it is and where I know them from. All that is irrelevant. It's like I did what I did. It was a mistake. I know I was wrong. Like now what's the next step? >> Okay. How long this been going on? Since you started. >> Since like January. >> Since January. >> Didn't do it the whole time. >> How much money you think you got total from these people? Like >> a couple hundred. I don't I don't know exact money. like >> know what I'm saying from from January like maybe >> I'm saying I don't know >> 1,000 2,000 >> not that much. No, >> I mean just just a rough guess. >> 500 600 less like I don't I don't know. Every time I get money is gone. I don't know. >> Okay. Um anything that you think I should know about you? anything that I can do to help you or I mean >> so no no one came here and and and threaten you and force you to do anything >> right 12 11 12 for 12. Can you come back here? They taking you there. Um, if you have anything in your pocket in your jacket, take the jacket off. >> Yeah, just take that. >> I'm cold. >> You can't take it in jail with you. >> Okay. But I can't wear it till we get there. >> It's You're not You're not going to need it. >> No, you're going to be inside. It's >> cold in there. I need >> You want to put that in the first jewelry off, please? She didn't get the nice officers. The one that lit cigarettes and put the Instacart groceries in the trunk. She ain't get those officers. jail yet. >> Well, we have to take it all off so we can >> The last officer didn't do that to me. >> The suspect was charged with felony grand theft and received 24 months probation. Drop a comment below. >> Oo, she got lucky. 24 months probation. Could have been worse. Okay, y'all. This is the last one. Caretaker arrested after stealing thousands from elderly woman. This should be a different caretaker from the other one I've shown y'all before. >> This this month alone, January 1st, $1,200. January 3rd, $1,600. >> Well, I know she was telling Sierra she was going to help her get a car and stuff. >> Okay. >> And I know she used to send her money for ask her to get cocaine. And >> how about $17,000 worth? >> $17,000. Officers were dispatched after a shocking report surfaced involving possible fraud on the account of an elderly woman. But this wasn't just any scam. The suspect was someone she trusted for years, her own caretaker. Investigators soon uncovered that over $20,000 had mysteriously vanished in just one week. What unfolded next revealed a trail of stolen trust. >> Because of my condition. >> Sure. >> I hired a a local My name was Sierra Smith. >> Okay. >> She somehow managed to get into my uh bank account. >> Okay. >> And stole over $10,000 from me. >> Oh [ __ ] >> I got a call from the bank. The bank's the one that called me. >> Okay. >> And said, "This is what's going on." >> How long has Miss Sierra been around for you? >> I just hired her at the beginning of uh beginning of this year. >> So you hired her early January, late December, whatever. >> Yes. as like a caretaker function, you know, clean the dishes, cook you food, something like that. >> She's supposed to clean twice a month, but she never got around to it. >> Did you ever have some kind of official contract with Miss Sierra or was it just kind of verbal thing? Hey, I'll pay X amount, whatever. >> Yes. >> How much did you normally pay her? >> I I was supposed to pay her $600 per month. >> Per month. >> Do you do online banking at all? >> No. >> Okay. So, everything's you you still use a checkbook then? >> I don't trust the online trying to figure out how Miss Sierra would have taken your money if she just took one of your checks for your signature and said, "Yep, I'm cashing this $5,000 check." >> I think she took a whole a whole book of them. >> Okay. >> All the checks. >> Are you able to get that that check number? The one that you paid Miss for her services. >> She just called me. >> Okay. >> First month. I want my check. I want my $600. >> You got your phone with you by chance? Can you just open it up? I just want to I want to make sure that you don't have Cash App on your phone. >> Sure. >> Now, click that green one. So, that's Cash App. >> Oh, snap. Did she install Cash App on this lady's phone? Oo. >> You don't use it. You don't know how it Can I see your phone for two quick seconds here? I just want to see what what's going on here. >> No, she had >> I just Can I show you one? She used it to um transfer money to her account. >> Why would she do that? >> Because she was stealing money. >> Well, that that's why would why would um cuz you only write her checks, right? >> So, I'm trying to figure out >> and I that's how she got caught. I >> That's how she's going to get caught. >> Or you can do this. >> You think this is good? Sometimes it doesn't Sometimes it doesn't look how it looks to us. It doesn't like I might just take my phone. >> Y'all y'all y'all y'all if you can see him scrolling, it says Sierra Smith. Sierra Smith. Sierra Smith. 200 here. I feel like I'm seeing a 300. I don't I might have even seen a 900 and a thousand. Sierra Smith. Sierra Smith with the hearts and everything. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. >> I don't want to keep your phone, dear. I I appreciate you being helpful, though. >> Concerned about >> You want me to get my my PD phone? We can take a video of it. >> Uh, you have a PD phone? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but you do not use cash app. >> You had no idea this was on your phone. And you wouldn't be sending these random payments to hold on. If >> she didn't have cash out, I'm trying to see these other icons. Who these other people? Somebody. Hold on. Cuz there was another face on here. It's different icons. Maybe she got different cash apps. But I'm I'm looking. >> A dead horse. But you do not use cash app. >> You had no idea this was on your phone. >> No. >> And you wouldn't be sent. >> Okay. Okay, it says Sierra as well, but it's a whole different icon. There's some with her picture, some without her picture, and then there's one with a different picture that just says Sierra, not Sierra Smith. It was for a smaller amount. >> These random payments to her because some of the amounts are so not small, they're like 50 bucks, 60 bucks. I probably wouldn't even my own bank account, I probably wouldn't notice that. But when she's sending $1,000, it's a lot different than $60. You know what I mean? If I had $1,000 missing, I'd notice that in our view, but $20 here, $60 there. I could totally see why you why you wouldn't have noticed that. So, I'm going to go talk to my buddies out here. Um, please lock the door so in case for whatever reason she somehow gets around sneaks around me, doesn't just bust through somewhere. >> Yeah, I could see that. So, >> all right, Miss Mary, like I said, we'll be out here for a minute. You said that last time. >> It's a lift. >> Oh, it's a lift. >> Oh, it is. >> Hi. How are you, dear? >> How are you? >> How can I help you? >> Oh, just coming to check Mary's mail. >> Check on Mary's mail? Why would you do that? >> She told me to. >> No. >> What? So, you don't you have no idea what I'm here? >> No. >> Okay. Well, she called. I guess you were threatening her cuz you wanted 600 bucks or what? Whatever you're supposed to owe you, whatever. >> And I said I quit. >> Okay. >> She told me to see if the checks were in her mailbox. >> Checks for what? >> So she could write me a check. >> Oh, okay. >> I work for her. >> Well, I'm here for a totally different reason, dear. >> What is it for? So, since I I would like to ask you some questions, I have to read your Miranda rights. You ever been read those before or No. >> Yes. >> Uh, not yet. >> Not yet. >> You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say you can't use against your court of law, you have the right. >> To have an attitude is so wild. Knowing you done stole $20,000 and you set up a cash app on her phone. Wow. >> Talk to lawyer having present with with you while you being question. Um, do you stand each right to explain to you? >> Yes. >> Have rights in mind. Do you wish to talk to me? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, dear, I'm here because there's all sorts of weird nonsense going on with her bank account. >> What's going on with her bank account? >> Uh, >> she just got a new bank account. >> She got a new bank account because there was weird stuff happening before and now there's even more weird stuff happening. So, what is what is y'all's arrangement for what you get paid? >> I get $600 on the first of the month. Usually, she cash apps it to me. >> Um, >> she cash apps it to you? >> Yes. I didn't show you my cash app from her. >> I agree. She didn't even know she even had cash app. >> She's such a liar. She's been paying me for like two or three years on cash app. >> How much did she pay you this month? >> She paid me She hasn't paid me anything yet. We're really going to do this cuz I know this is mom. I remember you're you work at 7-Eleven for some money, right? Or own a 7-Eleven. >> No, I used to. >> Oh, I knew you look familiar. >> So that's why we're here. >> She sends me money just to get her stuff. >> Okay. >> You know, I go out, I get it for her, I go grocery shopping, I do her online orders. >> Sure. >> Whatever she needs. >> Okay. >> So, she hasn't paid you this month or last month. January, right? January. I'm talking about January. >> I'm talking about for February. >> Okay. So, how much she pay you in uh January? >> I'm not sure. >> Well, it should be 600 bucks and then whatever her expenses are, right? I assume what groceries, whatever. >> She let me borrow like $300. >> Oh. Oh, okay. See, I The story evolves as we sit here, doesn't it? First, she pays you through Cash App. Then she sends you to get groceries and other items. Now she loans you money sometimes. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Is that what you're sticking it to? >> Yes. >> Can I go talk to her? >> Nope. >> Can I call her? >> Nope. >> She called the police on me. >> Well, she she was scared of you. >> How was she scared? >> She thought something was going to happen. I guess she thought that you were threatening her. Blah blah blah. I never threatened her. I said, >> "So, do you think she you she paid you $900 for the month? 600 plus three?" >> No. Way more than that. >> Why? Why would she pay you that? >> What do you mean? >> You are her caregiver, right? >> Yes. >> So, I assume you have some kind of idea of her expenses. >> I have to check my phone. >> Ballpark me. >> 1,500. >> Okay. of of her expenses, right? Okay. So, we're way north of that. >> Uh we are way north of that number. >> Higher. >> Couple thousand higher >> plus whatever she needs me to get for her. >> All right. Is this the story you're going to go with? >> What are you talking about? >> Okay. So, her bank called And there are forge checks and there are cash apps that she she couldn't even figure out how to open the thing. >> She's a liar. >> Okay. >> So, is that the store we're going with? >> She's a freaking liar. >> All right. Well, I'm kind of done. So, >> wait. This is crazy. >> It is kind of crazy. >> Can I please just go talk to her? Wait. Mom, go get her. Please. >> Don't. >> Mom, go get Mary. Please. They're arresting me. >> I will here. I'll talk to you in just a second. I I'll tell you what's happening. >> Somewhere down here. >> Here, ma'am. I'll look at your keys. You want me to give them to your mom? >> Do you want to talk to her? >> I just came to check her mail to see if >> Do you have anything on you, dear? >> No. >> You don't have your purse, wallet, >> I cannot go to jail. I didn't do anything wrong. Please listen to me. >> I'll talk to your mom and I'll talk to her again. going to see here in this year. >> I'm just trying to give her dang. This girl's diabolical. She is diabolical. I understand why that lady obviously call the police. I wouldn't want her coming back either. You sitting here lying that I mean that man just kept scrolling and scrolling and the only person that woman cash out was Sierra. It was just variations of Sierra. Sierra Sierra Smith and it was one other one but it still says Sierra on there like girl. You've been dealing with her for years. >> Okay. >> She used to write my daughter a check. >> Okay. But your daughter done stole from that lady and you better not have gone over there to intimidate that poor lady. Your daughter is a thief. I wish I know. I don't know if the cop will show her, but I wish he would show her those cash apps. Like your daughter is stealing from that lady. That's even worse that she grew up knowing who that lady was. Come on, open your eyes. >> Yep. >> My daughter, any Beck can call, my daughter is here for her. >> Okay. >> If she's not, she starts cussing her out. >> You know how much she's allegedly paying her? >> Um, >> last month. Yeah. How much you think this lady >> Here, let me move away. She doesn't I don't mean to bother. >> No, you're fine. >> You know, >> so they have an agreement. Even your daughter said it's about 600 bucks. That that makes sense. >> She she pays sometimes like Sierra will tell her like her electric or something's going off or like she's short on something and Mary will get it to her. >> Okay. >> You really believe that? You really believe that? Oh my gosh. >> What's going on the last couple of months? I don't know that like honestly I don't. That's between her and Mary. But >> so what your daughter is doing is exploiting an elderly lady because she allegedly paid her $4,000 last month. $4,000 and let's say the cash app thing is real, which is >> but you know I I explain $4,000 in one night that that elderly lady sent to your daughter and make it make sense. That means you're benefiting from it as well. If you can still believe that your daughter is not stealing from this lady, both of y'all was stealing cuz cuz you see the mama drove her up here. Um, >> this lady also is uncooking. >> Whole different subject. Well, >> if she really is using cash up, which I don't think she is, but let's say she is. Okay. >> On her bank statement >> because she I have when she broke her hip, right? Yeah. >> And I do lift an Uber. >> Explain whatever about the maybe illegal narcotics if if this >> I'm not I'm not she already told me about that. I don't know why she I'm not talking about that. >> Okay. >> But um she broke her hip. Right. Sure. >> So for 2 days I drove Sierra around and her around for two days. So I said something to her. I said, "Mary," I said, >> "You know that driving you and Sierra around has cost me like $400, right?" And she's like, "Oh, don't worry about it. I'll send it to you. I'll send it to Sierra and have her send it." How did she send it? Sierra cash. >> So, she doesn't write a check. >> She does. Yes, she's she's wrote her checks, too. She And I told Sierra, "You need to stop letting her write checks because Mary will write a check >> to Sierra. I've brought Sierra over here, picked it up. Sierra's deposited into her account, and Mary turned around and stopped paying on it." >> Um, even the bank think there's there's weird things going on with the checks. Oh, I know that. >> The more the mom talks, I'm like, you you need to read the mom her rights because it might be some cuffs that need to come out for the mom, too. >> Honest. Honestly, like I I don't know. Okay. So, >> is Sierra perfect? Probably not. >> Is it 100% on Sierra? I don't think so. >> Sure. Cuz I think part of it is her, too. cuz she does [ __ ] and then forgets that she does it or said she's going to do it and forgets that she said she's going to do it. >> Sure. >> Is Sierra guilty? Maybe. >> Well, I'll ask if I can look at her cash app and I guarantee she's inside. >> If it shows exactly what that says, I'll let >> But there's there's cash app payments to a Jane Smith. I don't know who that is. She doesn't know who that is. >> Oh, I don't know. >> I don't know. Yeah. And uh let me see if I can pull up when Sierra sent me the $400. The day because that's the day she sent it to Sierra and Sierra sent it to me. It's been a while. >> Oh, get some cuffs out for this mama. Read her her rights. She said, "Let me check because the day she sent it to Sierra, that's the day Sierra sent it to me. You know these transactions don't make sense. We need two sets of handcuffs." But it was when she got hurt when she sent it to Sierra. >> And like I said, is Sierra 100% in his sense? >> Maybe not. >> He still can't do whatever she's doing. >> You know what I'm saying? But and I've told Sierra already before, you need to stop dealing with her because I knew >> you knew she was on to y'all. That's what you knew cuz it was cute while that money was flowing before the lady suspected something. >> I knew something was going to happen because when she used to write the checks with Sierra and and stopped me. >> Okay, >> let me see. >> Do you happen to have Sierra's phone? >> Oh, you doing that? >> Probably have yours. >> Where's Where's All right, dear. This is the time that maybe this will all go away. >> No. >> So, >> I don't want to do anything to her. I will not even ever come back here again if she doesn't want to ever see me again. >> I was just coming to check her mail to see if her checks came so she could write me a check for $600 because that's how much she pays me on the first. >> I could Which phone is it? >> Um, either one. >> Either one you have. >> The black one's connected to my um hot spot on my red phone. Okay. >> We can open this. >> She wants to show you her cash. >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. >> She's saying she never had cash up before. >> She didn't know what cash up. Yeah. >> So, which one? >> So, here May 16th. >> Yeah. >> If you look maybe in Sierra's to me on May 16th, you'll see $400. >> Okay. So that's what Sierra paid to you. >> That's what we allegedly sent to her. I was there to I was there >> because we brought Mary from I picked Mary up from the rehab facility and brought her to Sierra's house. >> Okay. Well, this this month alone, January 1st, $1,200. January 3rd, $1,600. >> Well, I know she was telling Sierra she was going to help her get a car and stuff, and Sierra's been trying to get a car. >> I mean, I I'll ask her again. She is dead dead. I mean >> Oh, yeah. I know. That's how she That's how she was when she was stopping payment on the checks. >> Um >> she she told Sierra, I'm telling you, she wanted Sierra to get a bigger house so that they could move in together. >> Y'all scamming and scheming together. This is a motheraughter duo of scammers. You You cannot believe what's coming out of your mouth. You can't. But like I said, if my daughter's guilty, she's guilty. >> Sure. >> Okay. Plain and simple. And my kids know, if you're wrong, you're wrong. I'm 51. >> I've done with you before. I used to love coming down here. >> I'm 51 years old. And y'all never put cuffs in me. >> No. I was taking people out for stealing beers and [ __ ] Right. When I saw it, I remember you. >> It's a first time for everything in life. Get them cuffs out. >> I was like, so this is your daughter. >> That's my birth daughter. >> I don't think >> that's what I'm saying. No. And she used to work for me at 7-Eleven >> to be honest with you. >> Oo, good point. Cuz the cop knew her mom so much from 71. The mom stopped working at 7-Eleven recently. And you just going to make that? I would at least, this is what you need to do. At least play dumb as the mom. If you if you if you going to be a criminal, you're not supposed to give all the evidence away that you was the criminal, too. You My daughter did what? I thought she was sending her own errands. Oh my gosh. Oh no. But you're just like that woman's a liar. She sent Sierra money. Sierra sent me the money. That doesn't make any sense. It doesn't. >> Water road. >> Yeah. >> And maybe I have seen it. >> And she used to work the one on um by the Largo High School. >> So she worked there longer than Clear Water Largo Road. >> Would you know who Jane Smith is? So on on her bank um the bank side statements. >> This is what she wants to say. >> And here this is the other phone. >> One of those cash outs probably belongs to the mom. If there's a Sierra Smith, the Jane Smith might be a pseudonym for the mom. Then they said there was a a male name last name Smith. I feel like one of those cash app accounts is for the mom. Okay. >> And I know she used to send her money for ask her to get cocaine. And >> how about $17,000 worth? >> $17,000. It's a lot of money to be sending for groceries or bills or whatever. Well, $600 a month for 12 months. >> But no, but you have to keep in mind all that all that money is not just $600 that she pays. She cash out Sierra for I bought Sierra plenty of times to get cigarettes to get beer. This thing drinks a case of beer a day. >> I saw it. >> A day. >> Yeah. Yeah, but even over 2 years, the $600 one of the amounts of $14,000, >> right? And Sierra's been doing it longer than 12 years. And that's not counting the groceries, the beer. >> Um, door dashing food, door dashing groceries, door dashing toiletries, Sierra going to get her toiletries, buying her groceries. It doesn't that doesn't include all that. Um, >> she's not there. >> So, for the for this month, the the 4,000 that doesn't include the $900 check that was written. Also, >> there's a check from January 1st of this month. I mean, why is I can't I can't understand why this lady would be paying her for 5 $5,000 for services or bills or I I can't figure that out. Keep in mind, not just that y'all keep throwing a dollar amount and I get it, okay? Like I said, if she's wrong, she's wrong, guys. I mean, it is what it is, okay? >> But you guys don't understand how many times my daughter has to go get cigarettes and door dash her food. I mean, and I'm not talking just little bit of food like she doors her food from restaurants, not like just the grocery store, >> okay? >> You know, so is some of it if she did maybe, but I know a lot of that ser honestly. >> I mean, some of it could definitely be beer, but anything that's not legit is illegal. Like, you can't do this. >> Oh, I understand. >> Okay. So >> regardless of anything, she has to go down to the to the station. >> Okay. Has she ever arrested? I I haven't read her history. >> Um >> anything silly, anything really bad. >> I think she's got a battery on a old roommate. >> Okay. >> Other than that, >> so more than likely >> she'll have anything besides >> driving without a license. >> So more than likely she'll get bond or she'll be able to get bonded out. Whatever that amount is, she'll probably be back in tomorrow. However, this is done. Whatever Whatever this is after today. >> Sound sound pretty good. I mean, even you said like, "Hey, she should have been staying away from a long time ago cuz I knew this lady." >> Yeah, it's coming with you. >> So, anyway, so she's going down to station night or the jail station going down to jail night. And then I'm going to talk to her again and I'm I'm going to beat it like a dead horse. Like is what is this? Is this real? Because >> that's for like the last >> um >> 4 years. >> I know. I've told MCR I told you stop dealing with her ass cuz she crazy and you may be wrong too. So I I'm just saying >> that's what happened. >> She's saying she never had closer. I showed him where she cashed out you and then cashed at me. >> Yes. >> Did you look up that one? >> I don't know. >> Oh, >> the only question I need answered is does this cop suspect that the mom is just as in on it as who they actually came to arrest, which would be her daughter, Sierra. That's the only thing I'm interested in because I need him to have picked up on the fact and I have to believe he has picked up on the fact that the mom was in on it too and maybe maybe just because Sierra got most of the transactions they just maybe they won't go after the mom but I need him to suspect the mom please. >> 2024 >> uh >> $400 >> 400 bucks >> cuz the weird thing is on her phone >> there's lots of char so it goes January 1st and September. Uh-huh. >> There's a bunch of months that are not on here on Sierra's side. >> That's not on her phone. >> That is on her phone. >> So, she's Well, I know Sierra got a new phone. So, >> yeah. I don't know if you can like delete >> Oh, I don't think so. >> I don't think so. >> Okay. All right. >> But I'm not that familiar. I don't use it a whole lot. So, >> all right. >> I mean, I use I mean, the only time I use cash app really is if I do a cash and they cash at me >> cuz I don't do lift. I don't do 7-Eleven anymore. So, >> all right. Well, that's what I got for you. I'm sorry. >> You're gonna take her phone? I'll take her phone. >> She wants both. >> Both of them. >> Yeah. >> She literally pulled up, boys. Five of them. All right. >> I just got off the phone with her. She said she was writing a check. >> Why would she call? She said she was scared. She thought you were going to come beat her. I said I was going to quit. >> I don't know why she was saying that. I never threatened her. I can show you the text messages. >> I got you. >> So, what is this for? >> We're just doing January. I know. I know. There's years on here. Why is she paying you $1,200 on January? >> She wanted a new couch and I was going to go get her a new couch. She said a whole bunch of [ __ ] >> There ain't no new couch on there. >> I didn't get it yet. >> How about this $1,500? She said she wanted a new TV, a new phone. She hates her [ __ ] phone. >> Okay. Well, this got sent to you 30 days ago. >> Okay. And I'm going to get it. And then I had to put it back on her cash app and she said she didn't want it anymore. >> It didn't go back. Where? This is your history with her. >> No, not on her cash app. I'm sorry. I just >> How did you get it back? >> Cash. You didn't You You pulled out $2,700 and pulled hard cash and gave it to her. >> No. Okay. >> Some of half of that. No, only half of it. Like the 1,200. >> Who is uh James Smith? That's the others I'm running into. >> James Smith. >> James Smith. >> James Smith. >> That That's the other person that she's cash shopping. >> You don't know who Jane Smith is? No. >> Okay. All right. Short of anything, um, we got all our stuff. Whatever. >> Like a purse, whatever. Okay. So, today you got to go. You got to go down to jail. You can't explain any of this to me. >> What do you mean? I'm explaining it to you right now. She said she wanted a whole bunch of stuff and she said she wanted >> So, you're telling me this lady paid you $17,000 through Cash App? That is insane to me >> over years of time. >> And that's not just that's for everything she wants. >> So, you're going to have to explain each and every single one of these charges. Every single one. 400 200 400 250 >> Okay. >> Well, you're going you're going to jail today regardless of anything. But I think that on your phone, maybe the other one, right? >> That it's not just cuz she only has three transactions from Cash App sending money out on her phone that she may or may not have known. Maybe she's the best bullshitter and she just lied to me. There's 10 10 transactions for Cash App on her uh bank statement this month. So, it makes me to believe that somebody has her banking information on their cash app and they're sending themselves. >> No, check my cash app. Check both cash app. >> Basically, what happens is both these phones are being subpoenaed and seized. >> Woo! I was waiting for it. I was like, I just I'm trying to be patient. Thank God. Okay, you're subpoenaing the phones. I was wondering. I'm like, these phones need to be checked. Subpoena mom's phone, too. >> And Cash App is being subpoenaed. to get all this information regardless of who's on the phone, if if if a message was deleted or not, Cash will give everything to me. >> Okay? She sends me money all the time. >> And if I ask her, "What's this $1,200 for?" >> She's not going to tell you what it was for cuz it's illegal. >> Why? >> Cuz she shouldn't be doing it. >> Why? What? What? Why can't I not give him $1,200 to buy me some furniture? >> No, I'm talking about what she wanted. >> Why? I >> Well, if she wanted something illegal, that's a [ __ ] ton of illegal stuff. >> What is it that she wants? >> More trouble than you. >> [ __ ] you might give yourself a little saving gra. If it's about like cocaine or some [ __ ] whatever. But as far as I guarantee you cannot account for every single one of those transactions, even in the slightest. I can. >> Okay. >> I can. She orders a beer every single day. A case of beer. >> I drink Bush Light. I personally drink Bush Light. Each of those cases are about $12. >> $20 on Instacart. >> Okay. So, >> check the Instacart. Check the Instacart. >> I don't have my phone with me, but >> check the Instacart. No, I'm saying check my Instacart. You can see all the deliveries were sent to her house. Every delivery was sent to her house. Yesterday, I ordered $150 worth of groceries. And I >> You don't know who Jane Smith is though? >> Jane Smith is a person on Facebook. >> What is she cashapping that lady for? Thousands of dollar. >> She shouldn't be cashapping anybody besides me. I'm her caretaker. >> So if she typically writes you a check for 600, right? Like that that's your fee or whatever it is. >> She wrote me a check for 1,200. She wrote me a check for 600. She wrote me a bunch of checks. >> Okay. because the bank's looking at that stuff and that's like federal stuff. So, I don't any of that stuff. >> I said she said, "How much do you think I should write you for the whole month?" >> 600 bucks. >> Yeah. They're they're accusing um the older lady that she was caretaking. Um they're accusing her of being a cokehead. Even if she's a cokehead, I still believe that that lady was stealing that woman money. I'm so sorry. You can't you cannot convince me otherwise. You can convince me she might have a substance problem. She might be an alcoholic with all the beer, but I still think that this girl and her mama was stealing that lady's money. >> No. >> Oh, for the food and the >> $1,200. >> Yes. She a carton of cigarettes a week. >> She smokes 305s >> and those are $50 a carton. >> 200 bucks. >> Plus all the other stuff. food, eating yourself $70 worth of Chinese food. >> Yeah. Well, as long as you have a great explanation, that that's all that matters. But I I have a feeling once the the subpoena from Cash App comes back, it's going to tell a different story. But I don't know. >> You look at my Insta car. I've sent everything to her house. >> And it's crazy to admit that you you would be a a cocaine runner for that lady. Like that's legal for you to do as well. So that's that's a weird thing to admit to. >> But just making sure you don't know who Jane Smith is. Has no ties to you. 0%. >> Jane Smith. >> Jane Smith. >> Look at my cash app. >> I don't use cash out all that much. >> What am I looking for? I don't know where to go. I'm >> going down. Slow down. right there. James. >> So, who is that? >> It's just this girl that I play this game. There's this game on Facebook where you have to load money onto it. >> Okay. >> And then she loads the game. >> So, what does she have anything to do with her? I have no idea. >> Okay. What game is it? >> It's Golden Dragon. >> Okay. I I don't I don't get it. But I don't either. >> Can I show you? >> What are you going to show me? >> Golden Dragon. >> Okay. And And then she plays Golden Dragon with you and Jane. >> Why would she send money to Jane Smith? Anybody can name their cash app Jane Smith. I don't know who I saw in the bank statement. >> I don't know who she's sending money to. >> How would she even know who Jane Smith is? >> She shouldn't know who Jane Smith and Jane Smith shouldn't be in her cash app either. >> When she talked so much, she instantly let them know that she cuz only thing that was in there was like three different accounts and it was two Sierras and a Jane Smith. Oh, and then the guy last name Smith as well. So Sierra Smith, Jane Smith, some guy last name Smith. Girl, they're all you and your mama. Like you weren't Smart thing would have been you didn't even say anything about knowing who a Jane Smith was, but you just so happened to also be connected to Jane Smith through Facebook playing mobile games. Come on, you got to go. >> I don't know who she sends money to on Cash App. >> I don't know. But anyway, I'm kind of done. >> As the investigation continues, the question remains, was her mother truly in the dark about the scheme or was she silently complicit in the fraud? Share your thoughts in the comments. >> On the same page, narrator, same page. We are saying mom, not even silently, mom was actively complicit. She's a co-conspirator. Um, but yeah. All right, that's the last one. goodness. Um, dang. Okay, I'm gonna make myself a note. I don't want to say in case I don't do it, but thank y'all for hanging out with me, y'all. 4 hours and 47 minutes. All right, so we will um I They didn't say if she had family. It seemed like she's getting taken advantage of a lot. So, I don't know if she hadn't had family around. All right, y'all. But I will see you later. At least I plan on seeing you tonight if you want to come to my unboxing for Jay Taylor's fragrant fragrances that he sent in a box. And tomorrow morning we should have another body cam compilation. But I'll see y'all then. All right. Bye.