I'm going to tell you what happens when you don't follow your first mind. And I'm going to be done messing with Airbnb. >> UBNV has a daily chore. [music] >> My host on Airbnb faked messages of me threatening them to get a three star review taken down. >> So, like I said, they pulled it out. That ribbon there has got the camera. The lens was poking through that corner right there. I'm [ __ ] done with Airbnbs. They're so expensive and they have so many rules. So, I book an Airbnb. Check-in time isn't until 5:00 p.m. And then there's a late fee if I check in after 8:00 p.m. >> 383 a night for three nights is 1,150. I'm like, "All right, calm. Cool. Cleaning fee." $380. >> Airbnbs seem to have a good run when they first started. It made sense. They were supposed to be the Uber to the taxi industry and things like that. but they quickly declined. It seems like retaliating if someone does give a bad review. There's just so many reasons that Airbnbs they're just kind of going to stay where they are and it is what it is. There's just so many reasons that Airbnbs are kind of where they are now. Personally, when air personally when Airbnb first came out or when I was able to access Airbnbs when they were more early on, I enjoyed it. I had a nice Fourth of July event with my in-laws at a Airbnb house. It was really nice. The hosts were great. But more often than not, I see the nightmare stories, not the nice stories like that. And I'm not with it. I'm definitely not with getting hidden charges to fake something that I supposedly broke. So, no, I'm out. I think it's gonna be hotels for me, but I'm gonna give my commentary throughout this. Watch these clips. Let me know what y'all think about this. >> Heather, you're full of >> At this point in time, I am totally team eradicate Airbnb. You know, take it out of our neighborhoods. Let's get these houses back in the hands of locals that need houses cuz this is ridiculous. I just booked an Airbnb on Tuesday for November of next year. I'm going to Toronto for the Taylor Swift concert with my mom and my sisters and we didn't want to stay in a hotel and hotels are not even available right now. You cannot find a hotel for November of next year. I booked this Airbnb. It was a really good price. Like I knew I I knew I had to act on it as soon as I saw it. And then maybe like 12 hours after booking it, the host reaches out and she says, "Oh, we forgot to adjust our rates. We have to raise the price $800." I ignored it. I wasn't doing that. Um that was all fine and well. She did present it as if there was no other option. Um, and if I didn't like it, I could cancel. But I know that if I cancel, I would have gotten a refund. But she would have had zero penalty. And then today at 9:00 this morning, I'm not sure if she was mad that I didn't answer or if maybe she did some market research to see what other people were charging when Taylor Swift came to other cities and towns. But this woman, I'm going to use that in exchange for some other words I would like to call her, tried to raise the price by $3700. That's over 100%. My original like booking was. Um, so I don't know. I just it feels very greedy. Feels very opportunistic. I get that um Airbnb is a business. Totally understand that. if this was an instant book or again like if I had tried to do something to like get a deal here, I totally understand that. Um, but you were able to see the rates. You set the rates as the host and you were able to see the rates before you accepted my reservation, my booking. Um, I think you should have stuck to your word. I think your word is really important in this life. And at this point, what has happened is she canceled. She had to pay a penalty. Airbnb has blocked off those three nights so that she can't rent them out to anyone else. Again, it's a business. She probably has this on like Verbbo or some other site. She'll probably get her money. Um, but if you're going to Toronto to see Taylor Swift and someone's trying to charge you $2,000 a night, don't do it. We can sleep in our cars if we have to. Don't do it. >> That is on the host. In my opinion, if you want to block your time to be available that far out, you have got to take into account things that could be coming to your city and go ahead and get those prices together for that reason at that time. But to allow someone to book at a certain rate and then realize [clears throat] something big could be coming to your area and now you try to uh raise the price on them when they've already booked. I'm with a woman. She Yes, that host must have wanted you to cancel so then someone else will take it at that new hiked up price. Standing on principal, I get it. No, you're going to have to cancel. I'm not canceling. I got the rate I was going to get. So, obviously the host did end up canceling because it was probably worth it to to cancel, take the penalty, and still use the price hike because $3,700 extra is wild. And then she said that's over 100% of the actual original cost. So, it was already costing her around $3,000 or so to stay there. Crazy. But that's the thing. It had it been a hotel, no, you wouldn't have been able to book that far in advance, but you still can book super far in advance at hotels. And the price is the price after that. They're not going to hike it on you. Now, somebody else that does it last minute, yeah, the price goes up. So, to me, that's one point towards hotels being better than an Airbnb. >> Hey, did you take the SHEETS OFF THE BED UP THERE? >> Thank you. >> Did you throw the dishwasher? done. >> So, yes, Airbnbs are very common for leaving a binder list of chores now. And a lot of them apparently are still charging cleaning fees, although they're giving you the list of chores. As you can see in this Tik Tok, taking out the trash, okay, not that bad. But when you see a couple of these chores, it's not too much of an exaggeration anymore. So, I'm not leaf blowing. I'm not cleaning the pool. And therefore, obviously, I wouldn't stay at your Airbnb. You wouldn't have to deal with me because no, I need to be able to wake up in my hotel room and I know when I come back, the bed will be made, the trash will be empty. I'm not going to trash a hotel room either, but everything needs to be in that fee already. The service is in that fee or you should have been giving a very deep discount since I'm going to be your chore person. So, for me, this is another point towards hotels. and sorry to the Airbnbs. >> Okay, let's talk about Airbnb checkout chores. My husband and I own an Airbnb. We've run an Airbnb, two of them actually, for 10 years. And we are also people who love to visit Airbnbs. We stay Airbnbs most of the time, family of five. There is no reason, none, to ask your guests to do checkout chores. Again, we run two Airbnbs. There is no reason to ask your guests to do checkout chores. There's no reason to ask them to take out the garbage. There's no reason to ask them to take off the sheets and to get them started in the washer. That one always like makes me cringe. Like, why am I doing laundry? I don't know. [gasps] The one thing that we suggest to guests is to just start the dishwasher. Like, you know, most people are putting their dishes in the dishwasher anyway. So, you know, we say, "If you'd like, please start the dishwasher. Otherwise, just lock the door, have a safe drive home, especially if you're charging a cleaning fee." Like, we don't actually charge a cleaning fee because we're able to clean it ourselves. But because we clean it ourselves, we know like it doesn't save you that much time to have the guest do something that a housekeeper would do. It doesn't take I think people have this backwards. Like they think, "Oh, it doesn't take that much time to pull the sheets off. We'll just have the guests do it." Well, no. Like, if it doesn't take that much time, have the housekeeper do it. Because as a guest, you don't want to have to do chores before you leave as you're trying to pack up your own stuff and everything. Like the amount of time that it saves the cleaners is not worth the amount of trouble mentally you're putting on your guests. It's just not worth it. There's no reason. >> Okay. When I was scrolling through Tik Tok, she was one of the few hosts that honestly spoke this way. If y'all want to see more host on the other side on how they definitely definitely want you to do the chores, I might can do a video on that one. But I do appreciate that she said she's been doing it for 10 years, her and her husband. There's no reason to ask your guests to do chores. And if you've been doing it for 10 years and you have two Airbnbs, I feel like I can trust that you've got this down pat. You've had some good and some bad guests. I'm sure it just seems very reasonable. Honestly, if I do a Airbnb again, this is the only type of host I want when I do a Airbnb. I don't want to work on my vacation, then it's not a vacation. I know that for some people it's going to be, well, if you have a lot of people and y'all want to cook and you don't want to eat out, Airbnb is great. That is true. Again, I just hope I get a host like this though, if that's a reason that I do it, you know, and somehow it does become more economical at some point. But I don't want to do it with those other types of hosts. I just don't give me host like her and her husband. [clears throat] >> I don't know if I'm a part of the majority, but the era of the Airbnb is done. It's true. It was fun while it lasted, but it's over. The cool thing about Airbnbs was they they was cheap and you get like an entire house to yourself or whatever. But now it's the extra fees. The the um [ __ ] homeowners be doing a lot now. And at this point, I just want my hotel with my ice machine, with my 24/7 security, and um make my bed. So when I come back tonight, it's like it's my first night again. >> Yeah, this is short. >> I don't know if I'm a part of the majority, but the era of the Airbnb is done. It's through. It was fun while it lasted, but it's over. The cool thing about Airbnbs was they it was cheap and you get like an entire house to yourself or whatever. But now it's the extra fees. I'm going to tell you what happens when you don't follow your first mind. And I'm going to be done messing with Airbnb. Now, everybody know that my nephew's birthday was early September. We went down to Disneyland. We got this Airbnb. And I'm going to drop the receipt in the name of Airbnb. So, you can see when we arrived at the Airbnb, first of all, I go off Airbnb. I go off of reviews and I go off of what the pictures look like, but mainly reviews because the pictures be lying. So, I see this Airbnb and it has all these great reviews, right? In California. Now, I've stayed in California before and I know that you got to be very wary of the Airbnbs that you select out there. So, I'm like, "Okay, this looks good." I read off through all the reviews, everything. Okay, perfect. So, I get to the air, I communicate with the host. I'm like, "Hey, we're coming out for Disney. You know, that's all we're going to be there for. We will not even be in the house. Basically, we're going to go in there to sleep, whatever. I'm looking forward to it. I see your reviews, whatever." So, we go we get to the to this house. I'm telling you. We walk in. The house is not dirty, but it's not particularly like [ __ ] and span clean like I thought it would be. It was like okay, but there was like spiderw webs on the chairs and then in the corner was like a little where you could tell like the paint was chipping. So, it was like paint like paint flex on the floor. Nothing that was like super like horrible where we were going to take a photo of it. You know what I'm saying? Also, it was a pool outside that had like a floating I want to say gecko in it or whatever, but she had messaged to say that somebody's going to be coming to clean the pool or do the landscaping. Okay. So, I'm like, "Okay, well, they can't swim in that until they get that out of there first and foremost there." And then I asked her, I'm like, "Well, how deep is this pool?" Because the pool wasn't labeled and I don't know. And she was like, "The pool is 8 ft and it also doesn't have pool lights. So, then that means that we're not going to be able to swim because when we come back from Disney, it's going to be dark." When we got there it was dark. Okay. granted. So, they only had one set of tiles as well. So, it was like many little things that my friend was like, "Oh, no, you got to write this in a review because I don't understand how they got a fivestar review because this is not a fivestar property." And I had agreed with her. But then we get a message from the host. And the message was like, and I'm going to say it's like a guilt. It was like, "Hey, we're a small business. We rely on these reviews. We hope everything is great. We hope you can give us a five star review when I tell you follow your first mind." Because I wasn't. I literally was going to give them like a three and a half. I was going to say cuz to me in my mind three and a half like this is a okay place to stay. You know here you're going to need to have more towels. You know it wasn't particularly it wasn't dirty but it it looked like it had been a minute since somebody had stayed there. Now I don't know. Now the crazy part about it was I was going to extend my stay one more day anyway because we were going to go to another theme park which was uh Knottberry Farm. And I was like since we're only here to sleep it's not a big deal. We we came with our own blankets and stuff anyway. Not saying their blankets were not clean. I'm not going to lie to you. It was like, "Okay, it was a okay property." You know, I'm but I'm like a fanatic with cleanliness anyway, so it doesn't matter. Even if it was super clean, I would still have my own blankets, my own sheets, my own pillowcases. That's just how I am. So, um, we go we go to Disney, we do what we came to do. Before we leave, we pack up all the garbage, you know, clean up all the stuff, whatever. She said, "Don't um don't put the don't take the sheets off the bed. The cleaners will do that." Okay, we leave. A week later, a week later, we're gone. I get this message from her saying or him or John or whatever his name is saying basically like this is how we survive off reviews. I feel bad. I'm like, "Okay, I don't want to go and mess up their perfect rating because maybe I'm over the top and too picky." Okay, cuz I am very picky. So, I write them a good review. I do say little things like, "Hey, you're going to need extra towels. Hey, there's a pool there. Make sure your kids have life vests. They can't swim. It's 8 ft. Like, there's no pool lights." Like I I give I don't know what the right words is, but clues because I don't want to be to the one to mess up their their five star rating. A week later, literally just a we've been gone from there about almost two weeks. I get a request for $180. Remember when I told you when we walked in there, it was that paint chipping on the floor that we thought to myself like, "Dang, they ain't even clean this up." But it wasn't a big enough deal. Why they're trying to say we did it? Mind you, we never even went over in that area. The area was under like um it was against a wall like near the breakfast bar. Literally, not one of us went in that area. It was there when we got there. So then I'm like, "No." I'm like, "We didn't make no damage to the property. If we made damage to the property, I'm like, "Why would we?" I'm like, "Ask to extend a day." Like, "I'm not going to damage a property and stay there extra day." I'm like, "That was there." And mind you, when we wanted to extend a day, they said that someone else was going to be checking in the property on Friday, which was the day we wanted to extend. So, we couldn't stay there. So, I had we left and went and got another property. So, help me understand how a week later if you had another reservation for Friday, how like how the cleaner said it was there after you. We did not make any damage to that property. First of all, the house is not even nicer than mine. Come on. I don't have to come to someone's literally it was $672 for a night or two nights or something like that. I don't have to come to any property in especially not something so minute. And then it was like the paint speckles $180. Please go to hell. You putty on that and paint it. But we didn't do it. So why would I do that? But I wish I would have followed my first mind because I would have really wrote the real review. And I feel like this is what this is like a common denominator where hosts are trying to get like extra money because I communicated. They went over and beyond saying like this is how we make our money. We don't have a lot of money. We're a small business. I'm going to share the messages so you could see. And I felt bad instead of just following my first mind. So then they they get Airbnb involved. Does Airbnb side with them and say, "Please pay the reimbursement or submit an appeal. Please go to hell cuz I ain't paying nothing." And mind you, it's only a 80 $180. I literally right now would spend that in Walmart. Probably more now. I go to I'm not playing every day to Walmart. I probably spend like two two50 maybe. So if we had really did it, I would have no problem with paying it. Like it's not going to kill me. 180 bucks. My child's cheer is $200 just for the uniform. So, it's not that we did not we genuinely did not do it and I feel like that the host knew it was there and was using us as a opportunity to get some money. This how I feel. And I know this is a rant, but I'm feeling some type of way. But I'm going to tell you right now, I don't know if you've ever stayed at this property. If you have, let me know what type of experience you had. if you saw anything. But when I go into a property that has like great reviews and I see like spiderw webs and stuff like that, I know that those reviews I know that most of those people probably um put those reviews there cuz they the same thing they did to me they doing to other people. They're like soliciting five star reviews by a guilt method. It's crazy. Boy, I tell you the Airbnb scam. Another reason I am probably out. So, Airbnbs and hotels will have great reviews, and sometimes it's a lie. The difference is that with hotels, you can go to third-party websites and check the reviews to make sure the hotels aren't just leaving up favorable reviews. So, that's the benefit of that. Airbnb, you're kind of at the mercy of what reviews are left on the Airbnb. Then, you come to find out they're soliciting five star and it's a very much, you know, pull on the heartstrings. were a small business, which I love supporting small businesses, but you have to also be a good small business. So, that sucks that they did that. And then to say that a guest that didn't make the damage is getting charged for the damage. And then I'm like, how many times have they shown that picture? Did they Hopefully Airbnb maybe would track that. Like, you can't show this chip paint again and say another guest did it, too. But $180, I'm glad for her that's not a lot to, you know, break the bank. But that would really break a lot of people. And this recently happened to my friend where they were blamed for damage that they did not cause. And they're very meticulous. And I just I hate that because it's like they're taking advantage. They're making it harder for the next Airbnb host as well cuz you you know how it is. Your mind starts thinking like most Airbnb hosts are going to be like this and maybe they're not. You just run into the bad ones. But I'll take my chances with the hotels and just go to third party websites to see what condition is the hotel actually in versus what you know they'll show the fancy pictures on their website. But yeah, the risk of now I'm getting fined for something that I didn't do. No thank you. My host on Airbnb faked messages of me threatening them to get a three star review taken down. Let me paint the picture. At the end of last month, we stayed in an Airbnb in Virginia for 13 days. This property had nice reviews and the hosts also had a lot of good reviews. >> Well, when we get there, the house is a little messy. Nothing crazy, but we had to clean everything before we could use it. We had to vacuum before we could let our kids like hang out on the floor, and we had to wash every single dish before we used it because there was crusty food on everything, [snorts] the pans, everything. So, when the management company contacted me after our first day, we got in kind of late um and just asked how everything was, I said, you know, it's not super clean. It's not like trash um but it's not super clean. Then we just left it at that. Well, as we went on through the week, we discovered more and more gross stuff and also stuff that wasn't really safe. For instance, there was a nail sticking out of the stairs. We found screws and sewing pins all in the carpet. Like it wasn't a huge deal. It was just a little annoying. This place was listed as a familyfriendly property, so we expected it to be family friendly. Fast forward to checkout. We vacuum everything. We cleaned everything up. All the dishes are clean. We left it in way better condition than we found it. And the management company leaves us a nice like guest review. But I left a three star review. Not that three stars is bad, like there wasn't anything bad about the property. It just wasn't exceptional. And I think five stars is exceptional. So I gave him three stars and posted this in the quote. Pause to read it. Fast forward again to this morning and I get a message saying that my review has been taken down because it violates community policy. Basically they reported my review saying that it wasn't fair. And then it also had Airbnb's name in it. Um so I think that had something to do with it as well. [laughter] So I contact customer support and I ask what violates what? because the article is really vague and she won't provide me with any answers. And then she says that the company has provided them evidence that I was threatening them with a bad review if they didn't give me a refund, which I absolutely did not do. We did request a refund 10 days before our trip before we ever checked in because we took 2 days off our reservation. So, after asking multiple times for this proof, she provides me some fuzzy screenshot and then she closes out my case. So, I don't even have a chance to respond. But now I know why this company has great reviews. Because if they get anything below four stars, they make fake photos of threatening clients and submit them to get reviews taken down. >> Well, they [ __ ] with the wrong mom today. And I gain absolutely nothing from disputing this, but you bet your ass I'm going to take them down. That is so frustrating. She was my first one that I've heard that now the host will post fake correspondence so they can get your three-st star review removed. I don't know if everyone would agree with her for leaving the three stars, but she left what she felt. It's just like on sometimes when I see Amazon and I see somebody give a product three stars, but it's because they couldn't figure out how to assemble the product and so it's three stars, but not because the product didn't work. So, some people may feel like she was harsh with the three stars. Some people may understand her giving three stars, but either way, she felt like she she had a three star experience. to fake correspondence and then say that someone violated a policy is crazy. And Airbnb sounds like YouTube where they have a vague explanation of how you violated a policy. I get where she's coming from. Stand on your principles. Hopefully it goes okay for you because you know the host will keep getting guests. But you're out well at least she's not out more money. That's the good thing. This is one that she was not out more money but still stand on principle. Okay. [music] I keep deleting this video because it's too long. No one's going to watch if it's too long. No one's going to watch regardless, but like less people are going to watch if it's 5 minutes. So, I'm going to try to keep it short. I need [music] your help. Do you work at Airbnb? Does your friend work at Airbnb? Are you Airbnb? Are you looking for Airbnb related videos? Somebody help me. Basically, I'm [music] being scammed by a host. Airbnb is siding with the host. I have been denied due process rights. Nobody is showing me evidence of this claim that he has. So, basically, we just spent 3 weeks traveling in Europe, stayed mostly in Airbnbs. I know there's like ethical [music] stuff there. That's another video. Um, it's just so convenient with families. And we stayed at this Airbnb in London, which when we booked had no reviews. It was brand [music] new. You know, I checked reviews before we stayed. It looked fine. And it was fine. It was like a corporateowned sterile, soulless apartment near Oxford Street. Um, that totally served what we needed and it was great, but like it wasn't perfect. And you know, there was like not coffee pods and like [music] not toilet paper and um most importantly like we asked for a crib and they didn't give it to us until day three. And by that point, like forget it. You know, safe sleep was out the window. My four-month-old [music] slept on an unsafe bed situation. But, you know, neither here nor there. The point is, I think that the host was mad because I wrote a four-star review and it was a four-star stay. Honestly, it was not perfect. It was not personalized. Um there were no amenities. uh when [music] you would message them like somebody else would message you back the same question cuz it was clearly like AI or like a corporateowned whatever that wasn't reading the previous messages like what time do you arrive I told them three different times like fine not that's not alone were four stars but like all these things added up to like not a perfect stay and I thought they could [music] improve so I don't know if you know but Airbnb like doesn't let you see the review until you reviewed so like he reviewed me the day we left it and gave me five stars and said we'd love to welcome her back so like [music] that's relevant because then 2 weeks later he claim claims with no supporting evidence that we [music] caused a stain that cost $300 to clean. Um, in from what I could see on my end in the Airbnb app was like a grainy far away photo. Now, if I like knew how to work, [music] you know, Tik Tok, I could like show the screenshots. Maybe I'll do that in like a reply video. Um, a grainy photo of like a couch with like a circle, but like you can't see any stain. And then like an invoice from a cleaning lady that may or may not be [music] fake, right? Um, and I appealed it and I was like, "No, first of all, I didn't cause a stain. Second of all, I have no evidence to prove that because he didn't take a photo and video of every piece of furniture before we left because there was no reason to. [music] And third of all, like the burden should be on him to prove it, right?" So, long story short, they denied my appeal. They sided with him. I tried to reach out to customer service. They are wholly unhelpful. I can't talk to a human that will like explain to me like what the evidence is to show that I both caused the damage and that damage was caused in [music] the time frame that like it had to have been which was like you know from the time I checked in to the time the next guest checked in. Um instead 2 weeks later he like backdates some invoice anyway. So Airbnb can you help me? It's $133 which like it's a drop in the bucket but I just can't like morally pay that and feel okay about it and ever use the platform again. So like help us a strut. I know Tik Tok is like there's much more interesting things happening, but you know, I'm just a mom of two trying to trying to find some justice in this world. Thank you for your attention. Another one scammed by the host if we go according to her story. So, no evidence of their claim. I guess she was right that they were soulless if they're sitting here lying about that. And that's crazy that they did it because they were not happy with her fourst star review. Four stars are great. When I filter my things on Amazon, I filter four stars and above. I'll take a four star. And then to be charged $300 for a stain with no supporting evidence, you can't see the stain in the photo. According to her, this is too tedious for me because now I don't even know what portions of the house dwelling I should take pictures of in case you get mad at me and say, "I broke something that was already like that when I first stayed there." This is too much work. This is again why I'm here for the hotels. Hopefully she gets the help that she is seeking. $300 is a lot of money. This one, the text says, "Airbnb scammed me. I booked a house in Buckhead, not Bankhead. I know you effing lying." They put cameras inside of those Airbnb units. Be careful because they are putting cameras inside of some of those Airbnb units. Not everybody, but some people do. And I'm telling y'all this from experience because I used to be a Airbnb cleaner. We used to clean Airbnbs for a very short period of time because of this experience. And I'm letting you guys know from experience that they do put cameras inside of those units. I found out that they had cameras inside of their unit because I took the smoke detector down because one of them was beeping. And my client called me immediately immediately and was like, "Why'd you take the smoke detector down?" And I was like, "How did you know I took the smoke detector down?" Like, "I'm inside the unit." I know they have cameras normally on the outside of the units, but I'm like, "I'm inside the unit. How would you know I smoke detector down?" And my client got quiet and I'm like, "It's a camera in it's a camera inside here." So, it was a camera inside of one of the other smoke detectors. And my client let me know that because they seen me and kind of told me that they seen me and I left. I stopped servicing that client. I'm like, "Yo, y'all know that this is against privacy guidelines. Like Airbnb states that you cannot have units and you cannot have cameras inside of these units." So again, I'm letting y'all know from experience that some of these Airbnb hosts be putting cameras inside of these units. So be careful. That's why I do not stay in Airbnbs. I am very selective. I'm I will get me a luxury five-star hotel before I stay in an Airbnb any day nowadays. >> Unfortunately, hidden cameras can be everywhere, even in hotel rooms. But Airbnb hosts, they have more control of, you know, their properties and they can go undetected when they're moving around, tinkering with things because someone would be more suspicious if like a coworker saw another person that's not maintenance or something in a hotel room and they're sitting there tinkering with devices or touching appliances and things that has nothing to do with them, they're more likely to at least possibly be reported. But if you're just doing this in the Airbnb you own, you've got all day. No one's watching you. Be careful. But I also am going to put a clip at the end of two things. One of police finding hidden cameras in an Airbnb and another one of tips on how to detect hidden cameras. >> I'm not sure why we're still having this debate, but hotels are just better than Airbnbs. I know when it comes to Airbnbs, there seems to be like a lot of uh controversy with the the the added fees that they give you and just the uncleanliness and you get where I'm going with this, but you don't have these issues when it comes to hotels for the most part. Now, I do agree if I'm going with a large group of people and we want to be in the same general space. For the most part, it can be a lot more affordable to stay in Airbnb in that case. But for the most part, there's no other situation in my opinion uh that a Airbnb is not the better way to go. Now, let me know. I may be out of touch with this, but I've stayed in a few Airbnbs and I just don't see the appeal. I mean, the again the one time I did stay, the few times I stayed, it's always been like me, my wife, and then two other people, like another couple. So, it's four people, but I'm just like, well, could you get a joint hotel room that has a living space in between the rooms? And I think that's better. It still depends for me on Airbnb. Even if I'm with a large group, it just seems like at this point the bad outweighs the good. And it would take a lot for me to do an Airbnb. It probably have to be that I went on a girls trip, someone that I really trust that is so organized and detail oriented and they love to do their research and they've probably used the host before or just it it would take so many factors for me to be like, "Okay, I'll be at the Airbnb." Because the way this is going, I'm good. [laughter] >> I would never stay in an Airbnb as a guest. Whenever I get a booking, I could see what the guest is paying when they book my house, and then I could see what I'm receiving as the host. And there's always a huge discrepancy. I've seen guests pay four almost $5,000 to stay in my house for like 1 2 months, and I'm getting maybe 2 3,000 for that. So like half of that is going to fees. I've stayed in Airbnbs and I've noticed that if you stay in an Airbnb that's not owned by an individual and it's like a company, they're usually horribly decorated. The hosts are horrible. It's just not a good experience at this point with the prices and how badly decorated most of these Airbnbs are. It's a better idea to just stay in a hotel and get a guaranteed experience. And that's why >> now I don't know if he was just trying to use reverse psychology because he's a Airbnb host saying he would not be an Airbnb guest because he sees how much the host charge versus what the host gets back in their fees versus what the guest pays. That seems like doing business backwards to me. But I'm still listening and I'm with you. I don't want to pay all those fees. So you're right. I would rather not be an Airbnb guest. still trying to figure out his angle as being an Airbnb host and putting it out there like that. But I appreciate the truth. >> I'm [ __ ] done with Airbnbs. They're so expensive and they have so many rules. So, I book an Airbnb. Check-in time isn't until 5:00 p.m. And then there's a late fee if I check in after 8:00 p.m. And then there's not even selfcheck-in. So, then I have to meet the host for them to give me a keys and to make small talk with me after I've been traveling all day long. And then they remind me to shut up the air conditioning when I go out so when I come back it's sweltering hot in the apartment. And then they give me a laundry list of cleaning items to do before I leave. Like, baby, what is that $150 cleaning fee for? And then you give me a 10 a.m. checkout time. Like, I can't even make my [ __ ] coffee in that time. Can I at least brush my teeth? Well, he makes great points to me. Hotels, they usually allow you to check in between 2 to 3:00 p.m. Then, many of them will allow you to do early check-in, so you don't even have to wait till the 2:00 p.m. time frame. I didn't know there was a late fee for checking in um at Airbnb after 8:00 p.m. or whatever the time the host sets. then he's right. There's the social burden of let's make small talk, but I just want to get settled in. I've been traveling. I just want to be in my room. I don't want to do small talk while I'm waiting on you to stop holding my key hostage and stuff like that. Yeah. And then what? You can't keep the AC on. Thankfully, I've never been through that yet. But I I run cold. I want to be able to keep the heat on if I need the heat or the AC on if I need the AC. That's too much. I don't want to deal with that. >> I prefer a hotel to an Airbnb. That's just my vibe. But my son hit me. He like, "Yo, we're going to LA." He's like, "Yo, let's let's stay at a B&B." I'm like, "All right, send it over. Modern Hollywood charm. Beautiful gowns. Beautiful. Very fair price of $383 a night. Three bedrooms." Now, it is actually cheaper and fiscally more responsible to stay at a B&B. So, I'm on board. I'm like, "All right, [ __ ] it. Let's do it." Then I changed my mind. So, the price 383 a night for three nights is 1,150. I'm like, "All right, calm. Cool." Cleaning fee $380 Airbnb service fee $216 taxes $223.50 bringing the grand total to $1,970 cash. We're talking damn near $900 in fees. Father, we're straying. Father, we're straying. Please bring us back on this path. Now, I already don't like B&Bs like that. I just feel I don't It's not my thing. Somebody tell me how that makes sense. B&B, logically speaking, how do we go from something that's 300 something a night that should be around 900 to a band? How the [ __ ] do we end up at $2,000? He is right. Beautiful gowns. But no, those fees were crazy. What is an Airbnb service fee? And why was it $200? Why did all the fees add up to $900? No. No. And see, that's what I'm talking about. I guarantee you, they still would have had to do chores even though that cleaning fee was $300 and some dollars. No. No. These are the reasons I'm out. >> When Airbnbs try to act like their hotels, it throws me off because why is check-in time at 4:00? Like, if I'm renting a house, why would I be checking into the house at 4? like it just makes no sense. For hotels, I get it. You have time to clean up like these backtoback room bookings, but for Airbnbs, people are typically booking them for the weekend. So, if I book it on a Thursday or Friday, ideally, no one is in the house before beforehand. Um or you at least got the house clean by that morning. So, like it just throws me off sometimes. And so, it's like be Airbnb. stop trying to be a hotel. Like, and then trying to charge a fee to check in early at Airbnb, like even like an hour or two early, it just still throws me off because I paid all the money. Why am I being charged extra? And it's like, was the house not clean? Like, what is this extra fee going to? Just give me the access code early. Very simple. probably have little canvases. >> Well, so some of our uh some agencies have like a detector where they can like find cameras. I'm not sure if we have one. That'd be something I have to ask a detective about that off that. >> Okay. >> Um Okay. Is there Is this unlock? I don't think so. And it says in the book in I mean I know you're not have cameras in bathrooms or anything. There's one there's camera out back upstairs and downstairs, you know, whatever. That's fine. But inside we were like >> Yeah. No, that's that's No, >> we were kind of like clear out. >> No, I mean I I completely understand. I completely understand. We was kind of like iffy on, you know, even calling. We're like, man, I don't But >> no, just call. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> And there's just so much jacked up stuff on this world. And that's just it needs to be stopped. >> Yeah, it's bad. >> I don't care if they see my little naked or whatever, but my son and you know, you know how you understand. >> Oh, I completely understand that. Yep. >> Oh, were you already looking at it? >> I looked. There's another room like that, but it's locked again. So, >> I said I think this was supposed to be locked, but it was like barely cracked. >> Whoever was cleaning it didn't >> with >> I don't know. When you looked this, did it say like there was laundry? Cuz there's they got washer and dryer in here. Like, was it included? >> I don't think so. yellow. >> Um, I mean, it is a legit camera in there. >> Okay. Um, I've already got photos of it. No one's getting a statement form from them. Um, yeah, an extension cord was running from the laundry room, which they said they think was probably supposed to be locked, but someone left unlocked. So, they looked in there. It's got an extension cord going up through the ceiling, through the drop ceiling, you know, running across over top of the wall over where the camera is. Um, it's like a little ribbon camera. Yes. Um, they told me they had already like messed with it some, but they showed me where the hole is in the which there is a little hole in the corner where he said the lens was. >> Um, and then it goes to this little black box with an antenna running off of it. They said it was flashing green, but they unplugged it. And there's electrical tape up there holding it. Break it, but don't skin to the center. You stand on the outer edge of it. That's where I'm strongest. You never done this before? >> No, cuz I know I'd get my ass beat. >> Yeah. I mean, I don't see another one right there in that proximity. >> But you have clothes. I do gloves. Oh, yeah. That one's locked. We can check everything that's reason. What the heck? Nothing weirder than the fact that this is >> I've never seen a camera like that ever. >> No doubt, man. >> Ever. >> Pretty crazy. You usually >> Dave's supposed to be actually heading here. >> Okay. Dave's coming. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> So, one of the detectives is on his way. >> All righty. >> If you guys could just wait for him to show up. I mean, he'll probably be like 15 to 20 minutes. No worries. >> She's got a office. >> We ain't never She's She's a little freaked out. >> No, I get it. I >> be all right. Whatever we got to do, get her taken care of. >> There's no way it don't happen again. >> Detectives later searched the residence after obtaining a search warrant and said no other devices were found inside the home. Moments later, a supervisor arrives to assess the situation. That green extension cord there is the one I was mentioning to you. See? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. over here. So, like I said, they pulled it out. That ribbon there is not the camera. The lens was poking through that corner right there. There was a hole there. They said it was kind of angled to the way been pointing at the shower, but you can see the I stood on that. It's sturdy enough. You can see the extension cord running over from the wall over to here. See the plug there? They unplugged it. >> Yeah. >> Um, yeah. You see all the antenna? There's box there. They said splashing green. And then the wire was running out over there. There's a piece of electric tape there, too. And that's where it's hooking out. >> Yeah. >> Did uh any of y'all use that bathroom? >> Yeah, >> we did. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> See in there? >> Yep. >> Yes. >> It determines the >> There's >> A, B, C, and D sections of voyerism. And if there's a minor involved, >> that bumps it up quite a bit. >> In there. And then I changed in there two, three times. Yeah. Used the bathroom. He went in there and used the bathroom. >> I when he changed his clothes, he was out here. >> Sink. Yeah, he still peeing in there. >> He walked in there and peed. >> Was it just you guys? >> Yeah, >> you heard that right. The woman tells police all three of them, including their young child, had used the restroom prior to the discovery. Once outside, >> police note two other exterior cameras with one seemingly pointed toward the hot tub and another near the front door. I wonder if there's one on the other side. >> I mean, I can see having one of those. >> Yeah, that's a simple thing. All right. Yeah, I'm gonna go back to the office. >> Okay. What's creep you out, but when I was looking I was on the website trying to find out who the owners were. >> One second. Anyhow, I was looking up. It was like hogills.com or something like that, but I was trying to figure out which rental cabin it was. We do round cabinets a lot, but it >> was like the I noticed in the bathroom where that drop down small cutout is, it was tilted. >> Yeah. >> Yep. There. Or half off. >> Yeah. >> However you want to say it, but creepy. >> Yeah, very creepy. >> They never >> No, that's why I said you've seen this proper movies. You don't never in a million years. I mean, doing what I do, I'm kind of >> Jason was taken into custody and booked for video voyerism and illegal use of a minor in nudity oriented material. Online records show the 39-year-old later accepted a deal and pleaded no contest to felony illegal use of a minor in nudity oriented material. A judge later sentenced Jason to 6 to9 years behind bars and he will be required to register as a sex offender for the next 25 years. They're not allowed in here at all until we ask you >> that to you on his little listing. Remind you guys a $500 fine if you tamper with his cameras. Like, oh, did you mention all the freaking cameras you got up in here? >> So, here's how to spot hidden cameras in an Airbnb or hotel. Now, the first thing you're going to want to look for is devices that are conveniently placed where a creeper would want to look. Take this fire alarm for instance. It's placed right above the bed. Now, one way to see if a device is a camera is to shine a bright light at it. If you hit a camera lens, it's going to give a bluish reflection. Now, you can test this by shining a light at your phone and seeing how the camera looks when placed under a flashlight. Now, this clock is mirrored, but if we shine a bright light at it, we can see through the glass and see there's a camera there. Now, this technique can also work on two-way mirrors. So, the camera is USB powered, and the wall charger it's plugged into is actually also a camera. If we shine the light on it, you can see that little pin hole in the middle with the blue reflection. That is the camera lens. Night vision cameras use infrared LEDs to see. And if we turn off the lights and use the front-facing phone camera, we can actually see these LEDs. Now, the front-facing camera is the only one that tends to work cuz the backfacing one has an IR filter. Now, you can sort of see the infrared LEDs on this clock already, but if we cover up the main LED, we can actually see them a lot better. Now, I wouldn't rely on this method because people usually don't shower in the dark. So, if they're placing cameras in the bathroom, then they're probably not going to bother with night vision. So, these camera lenses are very small, as you can see here. So, they can be hidden in anything, even a hole in the wall. So, you're going to want to check any suspicious devices or holes that are facing the shower, dressing area, or the