was last time you were on youtube is that your account is that you that's me that's my account i said those things i posted words like that over the past couple days i intend to kill american women at the market you type that yes sir i intend to kill american children at as they play did you type that also yes and then i need to kill muslims as they pray you type that yes and then i love to kill yes sir what was your intentions with all that those are basically adapted lyrics when's the last time you fantasized about hurting somebody well here's the thing [Music] yeah yeah i'll do all that we're going to do all that in a second you'll just have a seat there and i'll get back emcee be right back bro you can't get your water or anything that would be nice okay all right so any clue of why we while we're here i mean obviously we called you prior to we came out to your house you've been very cooperative and we appreciate that um i know that there's some some history with some a baker act in the prior in the past about some stuff that happened i guess while you were in the military well um last year before thanksgiving there was a baker act basically what happened last year was i was on instagram just doing my own thing wasn't trying to be political i was just like but last year um i was on instagram and i had posted a video just simply recounting some of my experiences in the military including you know some of the things that i wasn't just dealing with my team leaders and uh these people came on my instagram and they were like you're a liar that's totally untrue you're making all that uh you're probably a drug addict and they started putting this hashtag on me stolen valor and oh man i got i did get pretty upset i will tell you um i did get pretty upset you are honorably discharged i was honorably distorted yes and you were in the army yes sir what years oh gosh that's that's really hard i think it was uh i was 21 in basic training and then i was in rear detachment i think i got out either late like actual discharge from rear detachment late 2009 or late 2010. okay might have been 2008 that i went in also do you uh going back to social media do you have a uh some type of youtube account i do have a youtube account okay what's that under you know um just under an email hugs from nurgle what's that hu hugs from um n-u-r okay and then uh black flame yeah and that's an alternate one okay so how do you what's the general when you're using instagram or using youtube or using mobile phone are you using a home computer you use a computer at all um the phone is like 99 all right so mainly your phone and who's that with that show pcs what's your phone number and that's the phone that i have that that was taken out of your back pocket yes sir okay and when was the when was the last time that you were on twitter earlier today today earlier today and that was from that phone yes sir well i can't help but be a little nervous no no i understand i understand um and then when was the last time you were on youtube or posted a video on youtube possibly was it yesterday in the past couple days i'm sorry i can't remember exactly all right so i want to take you back to a youtube that was posted about um it was two days ago about you wanting to sing a song about killing about killing killing people killing ladies killing and was you saying that you wanted to sing that is that you recall the video i'm talking about yes sir okay did you post that video yes sir okay all right and then what was your intentions with that video in your words because i i want to give you the opportunity to talk and understand i mean i care about your well-being you know we care about the community and we want to we want to we're trying to really do like a threat assessment to see if you're a threat to the community with the stuff that you're saying because you understand what perception and reality is as far as the perception could be you're a mass murderer maybe reality is is that you're just frustrated and upset about what people say about you on on these social media sites no this this whole twitter campaign and a couple related youtube videos is i do actually have a purpose i know it's kind of it's ridiculous that it's crazy and it's probably the wrong way but i just feel like it's the only way this i literally feel like during the trump presidencies the only opportunity i have to make these appeals because i don't trust the the process after hearing about all these fake voting fraud things going on and about hearing how viciously they want to uh impeach them but at the same time i've been hearing about how people have been coming out with information you know what i'm saying and trump is really making change and uh sorry i'm losing my train of thought a little bit that's all right um well take your time do you want some water you know some more okay we're not going to get a little like no i don't know that's why i'm trying to give you your space man i don't want to i don't want you to feel tightened in over there so all this is behind you feel like you just want to get your message out while trump's in office is what you're telling what you're saying i feel like he's the only one who can who has the power and the initiative okay i just don't i don't trust because you were talking in there about killing president's kids i know i know i just went on the most extreme level because i just feel like the only way i can be heard is if i just bang on the door you know what i mean you feel like you banged on the door yes i i and and i hate for i hate for you to to feel this way and we we ultimately i'd like for you to have you thought about getting any kind of counseling or any kind of medication or have you already went down that road or you're currently going down that road well here's the thing about here's the thing about medication they did the ritalin when i was a kid right then they did the adderall right then they did different medications at different times i can't remember all of them right and what is the result what is the accumulated effect of all these different chemicals that they don't even have definitive medical document that it actually helps a significant amount amount enough of people i know it may help some you know what i'm saying right um but uh i don't think i have an in a medical issue that i need some type of mood well i mean i do have some physiological issues like if i get stressed then i'll like start shaking or i might be compelled to like yell you know yeah worst case scenario i've come pretty close to like throwing a dish across the kitchen at work you know what i'm saying right um but i've never made any attempt to acquire a weapon um and here's the thing about that what i was saying about killing the prisoner's children this is why i use those words and i did i am a little bit disassociated from this so at the same time it's like i kind of knew this was going to happen but at the same time it was just like i i just got a reason it needed to be just got to risk it okay because i was taught a cadence in the military and here's the thing they intentionally use stress you know what i'm saying they're pushing you with stress screaming in your face roaring in your face additionally you have your your own peers threatening you peers used to threaten me all the time that's part of basic training toughen everybody up you know what i'm saying people threaten to kick my ass all the time nearly every single day some different college wrestler or high school boxer or whatever right here is this is this your is that your account and is that you that's me that's my account i said those things okay you typed all these out and this was this was posted today is that true uh i posted words like that over the past couple days okay what do you have it says i intend to kill american women at the market yes sir you type that yes sir okay and then it says i intend to kill american children at as they play did you did you type that off yes and then i need to kill muslims as they pray you type that yes okay and then i love to kill yes sir what was your intentions with all that those are basically adapted lyrics to the song so i didn't literally express intention those are adapted lyrics to a song that the united states government used taxpayer dollar funded time to train me to sing those are your words that you made that you created for the song are for a cadence well the actual cadence goes i went to the market where all the women shot pulled out my k-bar machete and um i began to chop singing left right left right left right kill left right left right we all look to kill and then it goes on to say i went to the playground where all the children play i pulled out my uzi and i began to spray singing left right left right and then it proceeds to say went to the moss skill muscles so your intent here was to bring attention to the cadences in the military and not to express uh absolutely and i believe that trump is the only person who could actually have the power and care enough to be like stop this you know what i'm saying anywhere nothing in this is this been redacted at all any anywhere in here to say does this does it say in here that it's that you were there was a cadence from a song or anything like that so the average reader that pulls this up and sees this what are they to think about this well i i guess i should have associated with the video i've been expressing i learned this cadence on military funded taxpayer time taught by drill sergeants taught me this yeah so in the video i'm expressing i should have put a disclaimer something like these are song lyrics adapted from a cadence so i want you to real can you read this any person who writes or composes also sends or procures the sending of any letter inscribed communication or electronic communication whether such a lot of communication center anonymous to any person containing threat including a bottleneck to himself that would allow another person to be committed to a felony if the secondary punishment is provided yes sir okay that's that's the state that's strictly that's straight from the state statute that's 836.10 okay so taking taking everything well you haven't no there's no disclaimer anything like that if an average person looks at this post does it meet that statute well it is associated with things that i was saying in the video so this the text and what i was expressing the video were one right so this isn't distinguished from what i was saying and right in my message right but it doesn't say anywhere in here refer back to my youtube video there's nothing if the average user that doesn't have access to your youtube and sees this post on twitter what are they to think independently there's a video associated with these words right now i understand that i've already listened to it i posted no no i know what you're saying but i'm saying take that video away from it take the video their way there is a dynamic of people who upon looking merely at that would say that is a violation of felony law yeah exactly and that's ultimately why we're here yes sir so at the whatever happens out of this the you have to you have to you have to use some some restraint and control on your if you're gonna stay with the twitter if you're gonna keep your instagram or keep your your videos you need to you need to show some restraint i mean there is you do have the right first amendment rights but when you start making threats to kill the american people take it serious because of all the in light of everything that's going on in the us right now i'm i'm afraid trump is going to be impeached i'm afraid he's going to be impeached nicholas what prompted you to to post these videos now about experiences you had 10 years ago what happened in your life that made you post these videos when you did recently well i just feel like i was saying before you know you had and i'm not necessarily on the on the train that thinks kavanaugh was an actual rapist but i know there are people coming out and exposing things exposing about things i feel like now is a thin window of opportunity where things can be changed where things are changing and i had felt just hopelessness throughout my whole life i felt scared i felt like if i speak about my platoon mates or try and name them that they might possibly these were gang members they might possibly try and hunt me down and kill me and so literally to even so much as speak about this i had to summon up like this hyper aggressive thing just to fight against the possibility of my platoon mates coming and killing me all right were you smoking marijuana when you made this yes sir well i mean i smoked recently with what i'm trying to find out when you smoke marijuana real water does it make you want to post these things is that when your creative thoughts or the thoughts of your injustices from your past is that when they service when you smoke marijuana yeah does marijuana help well i know i use the marijuana like a crutch and i would actually like to get off of it um but i do at the same time feel like i kind of need it and here's why because i feel like it has a medicative effect on the issues that i have and here's why because i experience like swellings of emotion sometimes and so what what marijuana does two things for me it helps me to kind of disconnect from my emotions so i don't have to like be controlled by my emotions i don't have to feel like like it literally kind of like separates me from them kind of so they're not like hyper compelling and at the same time it gives me the ability to like kind of think and like process from a neutral point but you wanted to change the algorithm where you change the algorithm you've got attention my question is is that the healthiest thing do you have any real relationships other than social media through social media like buddies you hang out with or anything my father um i've been trying to make connections with co-workers and where are you working at mama's pizza okay where's that at um pay meadows road and south side boulevard you drive and everything i'm a delivery driver driver okay but but you haven't been successful with establishing relationships well i mean i just haven't tried to establish a lot of relationships there there were different friends i've had since i've been down here but some strange i met some some strange people and they just you know they're just yeah there's a lot of people addicted to cocaine that i've booked with co-workers and whatnot and oftentimes i've i've been friend people who are my co-workers yeah and i you know i don't do the cocaine stuff or like hard hardcore stuff or their when's the last time you fantasized about hurting somebody well here's the thing um i have had fantasies with hurting people but it's been specific people in times in my past um i haven't had any fantasized fantasies about murdering anyone recently um what's reason let me say this i have been like on a really focused like state of mind to try and compose i've actually composed a lot of stuff on twitter not just threats and stuff and so it is somewhat difficult for me to like stretch back and and articulate everything but your everything you have is is open right your all your your twitter is wide like anybody can see it right yes that doesn't concern you at all knowing what you know now with reading the the florida state statute does that concern you about what you say like like is there anything that we're going to learn out of this as far as you know what you say on social media or you just don't care you want your message out that's the point of the videos right you thought about writing a blog as opposed to a video that perhaps you could go back and maybe edit or put disclaimers or maybe when you're not smoking marijuana you could look at before you post it because the videos that you post make you look like a mass murderer or attempting want to be a mass murderer yeah that's ultimately that's that's why we're here and i to be perfectly frank you probably need to go back and revisit a mental health professional and whether it's some kind of cognitive techniques that they can help you with to to to work through the how you express yourself and building relationships not just social media stuff but real relationships or whether there's a medication that's been developed in the last 10 years that might actually work for you i don't know but i don't see a person that's got real relationships i think you're having some family problems i think you probably put a lot of strain with your father's relationship in your relationship right well i mean we don't argue or well i mean just in terms of the things you do on instagram and the attention it draws sometimes that sort of thing and then just worrying about you right so because you know i mean you know his problem i'm sure his friends or your other family members are all seeing everything you're posting so they're all worried about you and this is the second time right because i talked to you i don't know how long ago now it's probably six months or eight months over the instagram thing i was i was afraid trump was going to be impeached and there would and there nothing would ever get changed i was afraid that subsequent people what would this do to help excuse me because i don't think you're uh to be honest with you i know that you're going through some things in your head but but like overall i think you're a pretty smart dude i think you're calculated i mean i think you know i think you know what you're saying i think it's you just you have a cause and you don't know how to you don't know how to express it i don't know how to express that excuse me i've had that sorry that's right and i do want to say this please understand this yeah um when i get sick like when i get like flu type sick i get delirious and i have been delirious probably for the past four days um i don't think it's associated with the middle thing i think it's directly associated with the flu not feeling well yeah i'm just letting y'all know i feel no no i understand it's associated but um here's i don't believe that putting me in a gown and removing me from sunlight and putting me around a bunch of drug addicts and prostitutes i don't think that's going to help me i don't think it's going to help you either but what you need to understand is society is not going to put up with what you're putting on instagram what you're putting on on twitter that's what i want you to understand out of what happens tonight you understand that that's what i'm not i'm i'm i'm not saying that that's going to help you you need mental health and i agree with that but what you need to understand and be able to wrap your head around this is that you can't just put whatever you want and think that it's okay because it's not because society because society christine blasey ford accused judge kavanagh being a gang rapist i understand i understand but you understand that you understand all the mass shootings that we've had everything that's led up to it your everything that you're typing in there is all like precursors to society and society season that's why these statutes were that's why statutes were created was a way of being able to get you the help you need do you think that this expression on youtube is associated with a mental illness honestly i don't know i mean or just not good judgment because of marijuana i don't know either um but i will tell you this i've expressed to you guys like i feel like he's going to get impeached soon and i feel like he can change these things i have no intention to actually do any of those things and don't put that shit on social media i'll deactivate my account at the end of all this i yes i absolutely would but the thing is is everything you put out there is all out there and everybody can see it that's what you need to understand make your message make it you you know i think that if you want a message that you want to get out there make it a more positive message not about who you're going to kill or any of that make it a more positive message because your word will be heard okay that's we know social media is a strong thing but it can be it can hurt you in the end if you say the wrong things okay right you're right so that's where we're at right now a few minutes and then i'll come back in and talk to you okay yes sir is there any way i could use the restroom yeah give me just a second i'll walk you out there [Music] real quick oh make something so i'll tell you guys something else i've been really worried about and i tried to mention this to you in some of my videos yeah is the well it's called meme magic meme magic yeah it's basically i know this sounds crazy real name nicholas james but it's basically black magic adapted into political memes you go you're about nick or just nick nicholas what's your address again that's where you live currently yeah but you got all these people in these political spheres and they are intentionally trying to trigger each other what's your final number 904 but it's like the political atmosphere has become so toxic both sides the left and the right i mean your email address gmail.com i almost feel like the political atmosphere is such that each side is trying to push the other one at gmail that's right until somebody does do something extreme like kill someone that way they can be like look see the republicans see a republican did it yeah you said mama's pizza that's correct m-o-m-m-a and a-m-a question you know your driver's license power not my number sorry what's your date of birth 1986 where were you born savannah georgia what county is that in chatham county pretty sure i was just thinking about that who's that cha cha tt chat ham chatham i don't know if we should hammer chat him yeah the whole relationship mean i'll tell you i was homeschooled and then that's all six four how much you were probably like 160 by these by now these days i was homeschooled and then i joined the infantry when i was 21. i killed brown that's correct hair color black dog brown but i just got us i accept i'm just different from other people who went to public school different from normal civilians that's what i can do nothing you can do about it you just have to find a universally adaptive expression you could help just this never that's correct what's that mean oh man i was on medication and rare detachment and uh started amplifying what i was feeling and i've never done this in my life i feel ashamed of this but i started cutting myself and so after i got back home i asked my cousin to put a tattoo over the scar so nobody could freaking see it i was looking ashamed that's why i'm a little worried about that medication stuff because i never had no impulse to do that right i'm hurting my cutting myself like that i mean i thought about like leaving the earth because i'm depressed at how wicked it is right was the last school you attended oh i'm sorry i was a homeschool uh like college yeah um art institute of atlanta you're in harpsichord yeah i was trying to get into uh music stuff probably would have been the guy who plugs wires into soundboards or something not too late yeah but see i sh i jumped right in there instead of going to like a basic school and doing basic classes and transferring somewhere plus it's kind of impractical i need if i go back i'm going to do something practical like a train right matter of fact i've been trying to kind of get myself back on the track because this delivery driver stuff just didn't cutting it but i feel like delivery drivers just about the only thing i could do kind of just that you're doing your own thing yeah because i'm on the road driving so i'm not in the shop all the time in a confined space yeah you know and i interact with customers but i don't have to hear the complaint right and i get tipped by them right and this area actually tips pretty good i'll tell you what you know almost have a wild hair like i wonder if it could be possible because i know there's like massive changes in the fbi wonder if it's even possible probably not now what if it's even like a hair and chance possible i could ever like join the fbi because i'm sure they need a ton of people by now clearing up the swamp in the deep state and all that stuff yeah i thought that what's your what's your home address i know it's just a freaking wild fantasy but you never know man i mean you definitely got to get your emotions in in check you know there's there's there's just there's ways that doesn't have to be medication that you know can help you deal with when you start to feel that way you know what i mean yeah that's true i can't even play video games anymore all the freaking likes super highly competitive fast-paced like my i get heart palpitations i used to be able to sit down and play video games for like two hours which is nothing these days be playing video games eight hours a day nine hours a day now all right but tell me what kind of phone that was the samsung lg are you all confiscated i'm gonna put it in the property room you might be able to get it back that's oh dang i actually will need it for work tomorrow though gps it's my gps access i got you let me see let's see where it's at okay otherwise you know so all right nicholas you're going to be arrested tonight okay we're making threats all right okay you'll go up you'll go walk you over to the jail you'll have your first appearance tomorrow they'll give you you'll be able to post bond and all that good stuff okay go ahead and stand up for me and turn around put your hands on your feet put your hands together with your brain well what am i being charged with uh the do you remember the stat that's the exact statue okay [Music] [Music] [Music] do 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