I can't tell you who I'm with. I can't tell you who I'm with. Cuz you're not with anybody. You get screwed over? Nope. Never have. Never have. Never have written an officer in my career. Never have arrested one. You do that to someone who's basically your brother? My brothers don't get terminated and let go from so many agencies. It's ridiculous. State certified agency. Well, then sir, if you would just turn around and put your hands up on the wall. This is for your protection, sir. Good afternoon. Corporal Lowe, Doraville PD. Didn't see the school bus stopped on the side of the road? Didn't see it not at all. Cuz I just passed a 41 that was down here. And I was focused on those officers. No courtesy? No, I've written a thousand tickets myself. Are you with somebody? Uh, right now? Yeah. Yeah. Who? Why would I exchange that information? Well, then I'll write you a ticket. If you won't tell me who you're with, I'll write you the ticket. Okay. I'll be back with you in just a minute. I didn't see the bus. Okay. If you don't want to tell me who you're with, that's fine. I'll issue the citation. I didn't confess guilt to what I did cuz I didn't see it. have to confess guilt. You want to tell me who you're with or not? That's fine. I'll just write the ticket. Show the officer your driver's license, please. Lowe, appreciate you, man. You on the job somewhere? I can't tell you, sir. I can't tell you. Okay. I'll get my supervisor on the way if you won't talk to me. Okay. don't need to talk to him. Okay. I mean, what's that difference? What what difference does it make? almost 29 years of policing and post Yeah, and I've got 27. Okay. But after 27 years I've never had someone treat me like that. Treat you like what? Yeah, like you're treating me. I've never had anybody not say sir. Be a nice guy. I say sir to you. so and so. No, I don't say that. Okay. That's not how I operate. Even when I ask you who you're with? Yeah, I can't tell you. Okay. Okay, I can't tell you. Okay. So, sir, I'm not going to tell you. That's fine. You know who I am. No, I don't. my driver's license. Yeah. Does GCIC return and tell me that you're a po-po? No. No. It will not. It doesn't. But you're riding with your blue hat on. Got my hat on. But if you don't want anybody to know who you are, wouldn't wear the hat. Coordinates May 1st, 2017. Have a good day. I didn't see a bus. It's on the side of the road. It's all on HD video. We can go down right now. I'll show it to you. I can't. I have to have a second unit here, so his video is on. Yeah, he's coming. Okay, just just hang tight in the car. He'll be here in just a minute. If you don't mind, I'd just like to stand. Okay. You're not armed, are you? Okay. And I wouldn't harm another officer for my life. Well, I don't know that you're another officer. You never run into an impostor in your 27 years, have you? You can't tell when you're talking to another officer? Yeah, then I ask them. Are you with somebody? And they say, "Yeah, I'm with when that SO. I'm with Hall. I'm SO." Then I can't tell you. That's all. He wants to look at the video. He's He won't tell me who he's with, but he says he's SO both. Yeah, I just said I'll look at it in the car. It's fine. He said second officer needed to be here. He won't tell me who he's with. Says I'm supposed to know. You didn't see a what? I didn't see the bus. He's talking about, so I would just like to see the video on that. Okay. Well, he doesn't have to show you the video right now. You know that. No, I'm offering. I'm offering. He asked as a courtesy. Okay. And I told him I didn't see the video. I mean, I didn't see the bus cuz there was a 41 down the road, and I was focused on that, and when he stopped me, I I told him I'm post certified. I'm not No, you No, you didn't, sir. You said I just passed the 41, and you said, "Do I get any courtesy?" I said, "Are you with somebody?" Well, well, yeah. Number one, I don't want to announce my department on tape, on video. I don't I don't do that. You know you don't have to. Just slide your ID to me. Yeah. Cuz I was already on top of moving. I got you. I mean, that's that's what it was. He was He just came to a stop when I was rolling by. I was at full speed. Well, now, the the car in the middle lane stopped. I mean, My speed was probably what? 40? 45? And speed limit is 35. Well, whatever. was Yeah, I mean, honestly, I didn't see him and that kind of figures to me why I didn't see the bus cuz it cuz he had just come to a stop when I was literally passing, so He even gave me a salute. My my my bad. I mean, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding that everything is Look, I've never written a cop in 29 years. Your attitude is what's got you. And I still don't even know if you're a cop. Let me see my identification in here, okay? No certification. I need to know who YOU'RE WITH. REALLY? YEAH. CUZ ANYBODY CAN BE certified and have been have lost their damn job. Well, I haven't LOST MY JOB. WELL, I'm very employed. Dude, I I don't think your approach is really helping me. My approach? Please remember that everything is on to him later. I'm sorry. All right. I'm out. Good luck to you. Take care of your girlfriend. I'll take care of this I'll take care of that. No problem. How you doing, Mr. Schultz? Yeah, how are you? Can I talk to you about that ticket? You don't have to worry about it cuz I have a warrant for your arrest for impersonating a police officer. Step away Step away. Step away and place your hands on the car. I'm POST certified. I got my credentials in the car. Place your hands on the hood, please, sir. Turn around. Please, do not do this. Warrant's already been signed by the judge. My fiance is inside. I would like to communicate with her. Would you escort me inside so I can tell her what's going on? No, we're not going back in the house, sir. It's operational safety. Can I Can you do it, sir? Um Please? You won't I can go in as a courtesy. Dude, I'm POST certified police officer. I've saved lives. I've I've You want to let her know we'll be there in a you're doing this to me. Did to yourself. I turned everything over to my captain figuring you might file a complaint. No, I'm He started looking into it and he had my post instructor look into it, and he said go sign those warrants. So, step back here, sir. Can you please let me resolve this what I'm in the middle of? No, sir. We have to go down with you. Come on, man. Why do you have to treat me that way? Seriously, why do you have to treat me like this? Because you misrepresented yourself. Look, I'm a Georgia certified peace officer. But I can't tell you what department I'm with. Have a seat in the car. you I cannot tell you. Cuz there is none. Have a seat. I've got your post history right here, bro. Look, have a seat in the car. Have a seat in the car, sir. All right. I'm going to give you your information. the window for me, please? Can you please adjust the cuffs? They're already on, and I've already locked them down. Look, bro. Go back and forth. You think I'm going to hurt you? No, I'm going to make sure you're not. Just have a seat in the car. can you adjust the cuffs so I can sit right? Just have a seat in the car. Dude, get in the car. We're going to put you in the car. Man. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. My Harley's sitting in the garage right now. With a dead battery. It's been there for months. I don't even have a garage or a Harley. I did get to go to the Harley museum last November up in Milwaukee. That would have been pretty cool. Oh, it's awesome. Looks like she's not answering. Appreciate y'all coming out so as quick. Sir, here's my card. She's not answering. He'll be transferred over to DeKalb County uh jail tonight or in the morning, and he'll have his first appearance either tonight or in the morning. Okay? Thank you. Thank you. Well, I didn't Do what, sir? I need my eyeglasses. Where are they at? They should be with the car. Okay. Thanks. Where am I going to? To the Doraville and then we'll transfer you over to the Cab County for your first appearance. These cuffs are extremely uncomfortable cuz my hands are backwards. Okay. Well, I don't know, sir. My policy does not allow that. So, is there something on my pulse record that I'm not certified police officer in the state of Georgia? No, sir. Just shows you're not currently with an agency as a police officer. Well, when there's certain points in the case that you made on video that convinced the judge that you were good enough for probable cause on the warrant, so. Is this a Doraville judge? No, sir. DeKalb County. No straight quickest It is. Yes, sir. Okay. Head northeast on Smyrna Powder Springs Road southeast to I-285 way southeast. You are on the fastest route despite usual traffic. You will arrive at 5:08 p.m. No, no, another way. I'm going to go by GPS. I'm I know you know better. I'm just You turn right up here. It's right up South Cobb. I assume you're trying to get back to 285, right? Yeah. Driving north. South Cobb Drive. Timothy Swain Did you ever let anybody make a phone call while you were driving? mobile No. Okay. Need to hang up then. When you can, can you send report number 138 back so I can adjust it for the arrest. 10-4. 25 East at the 141. Lady red and white and blue school bus in the third lane. 10-18 mobile Yes, sir. 10-38 clear What happened to you, man? Why would you would do this to someone who's who's life as an officer like you're doing. Why would you do that? Cuz you lied. Sir, what happened? Nothing. Why would you do that to someone who's basically your brother? My brothers don't get terminated and let go from so many agencies. It's ridiculous. So, you're assuming because of the termination on my background I have several, but yeah. that is a cause to arrest me? No, sir. So, why you say that? I told you because you lied about being with the department. I didn't tell you I was with the department. Yes, you did. I'm not I'm not going to discuss it, okay? I'm just not going to discuss it. Well, what I said is already on recording, so it's not even a a point. And I never said that, so we all know that part. But what I'm asking you is why would you do this to someone who has been a police officer for long as I have and serve. When was the last time you were an active duty police officer? Well, I'm I'm 27. On the job, not certified, on the job. 10 years ago? law enforcement about Eight, nine years ago. About 12. 2007. Right? Yeah, about right. 12 give or take. 12 give or take, I guess. I don't remember the actual year. So, is that is that like cuz you read that on my my closed to arrest record, does that mean I'm a No. No, sir. The investigators looked into it after I forwarded everything to the captain. And uh the way you represented yourself was wrong. Well, I don't think so. I'm a peace officer. You just want me to be full-time game playing employed in some agency. And I didn't tell you I was. I told you I'm not going to I'm not going to tell you I'm with an agency. I think my words are I can't. I can't tell you who I'm with. I can't tell you who I'm with. Cuz you're not with anybody. That's what I said. No, you didn't. Even if I was working with someone, I wouldn't tell you on recording. Then you get the ticket. So, that's the way it goes. I understand that. That's your discretionary call. It's not mine. But I just don't know what happened to you that it's in your heart to do this to someone who did what I did in my career. What happened to you? Nothing. Did you get screwed over? Nope. Never have, never have, never have written an officer in my career. Never have arrested one. Never. Because I go by the whole don't pee in somebody else's pond thing. So, whenever I get stopped, I'm very respectful. Let them know, "Sir, I've got a service weapon with me and this is my departmental ID." If I get a ticket, I get a ticket. And it's been that way with everybody I've stopped for almost 29 years. So, that's have a weapon with me to announce. I put my hands on the All you All you had to say was, "I'm not with anybody, but I'm a certified officer." I would have worked a deal out with you at court. All you had to say. I work deals all the time for people. People that aren't even in law enforcement. Yes, sergeant. Hey, sir. I already uh I've already done the report. Okay. Well, Just pulling it up on your system. Give it a minute. Okay. Got you. Okay, just add a sup or just add it on to as is and resubmit. Okay, we'll do. We'll do. It's going to be 412, yeah. 412 on my case numbers for today. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Have a good one. I mean, I don't know, man. I don't know what happened to you. sorry. Whatever it was happened to you. Yeah. But, even when I was working as an officer, I did not, you know, improperly handcuff them. And if they're uncomfortable, I made them comfortable. I had backup, I did it. And I asked you nicely. And you didn't want to do that. You wanted to leave my hands hurting. I can't speak to that. But, that's on you. That's not on me. And I'm not a threat. You know that. You know from my record, from my background. Everybody I come in contact with is a threat. Well, though that's true, but guess what? You had sufficient backup. You know I have zero history of any violence in my record. I've never hurt anybody. On or off the job. Whatever makes you comfortable. I suppose you disagree with that. Doing What? What I just said. 1041 south. No. I I've never seen your Reason you couldn't readjust my handcuffs. Policy. Your policy says you can't Yes, sir. Yes, sir, it does. State certified agency. We kind of got a thing where we try to go by the policy. That's why you're seatbelted in. That's why the audio and video is all running. Yeah. And when you're sitting there, OH, COME ON. LET ME LET'S Let's resolve this. Let's resolve this. My job is to get you in cuffs on a felony warrant. Officer, I gave you my hands. There was no resistance. Didn't say there was. I dropping my head in disbelief to what you were doing to me. That's it. I know I know this is not a negotiation. I understand Right, it's in the DA's hand now. No, I get that. I get that. And I'll have to deal with that, too. All right. All I asked you was to please adjust my cuffs so I have some degree of comfort. We got to make it comfortable. Okay. It's not working. I'm taking people to jail as well and I let them communicate with their family members on the way. That's not very safe. Well, when you have three officers standing there, what am I going to do to you? Yeah, we just don't allow phone calls in transport because of operational safety. Well, you just That's what you just brought up. No, I'm talking about telling my family safe. I knocked on the door and she didn't answer. I knocked twice. She is downstairs, right? I'm not going to go walking in your house. What? I could have easily sent my neighbor right here. You know, there's there's there was an option to do that. I told Larry to go tell her what's going on. He wanted to keep working on the car. I've been looking at I looked at your video of my violation. Mhm. It wasn't even a reasonable ticket to issue. Okay. It wasn't. Okay. I didn't have sufficient time to react to the bus becoming to a stop. So, Georgia law says that the as long as you got time, you should stop. No, it doesn't. to stop. And I was dealing with a pedestrian crossing the road. And you know that. And I told you that. Yeah. It's okay. It's all good. Everybody has their opinion, I guess, about how the law is, but it's supposed to be based on reasonableness. And I never lied to you. I told you I didn't see the bus. That's not a defense, and you know that. No, it's not a defense. But it's reasonable because of my proximity to the bus when it actually did stop. So, if you run over a kid, as long as it's reasonable that you didn't see the bus, they need to be time to activate a warning sign other than the flashing lights, which I read the code section is sufficient. I get it. But we didn't have time to open the stop sign or open the door. Because I was past the bus in under 2 seconds from it actually coming to a stop. As I said, my my attentions were somewhere else because there's a person I'm just saying it's not a reasonable ticket. Well, it's not a ticket anymore. It's a warrant. I don't get it. You know, I just don't understand what's in your heart to do this to me. Your your your case is not even about the case. You charged me with a felony because you don't like me. That's true. That's not it. Charged you with a felony because my captain, my assistant chief, and the training lieutenant all watched the video and said you need to go forward and press charges on this. We'll do. What are they saying now? Yeah, they did. I didn't come in and investigate this. I guess I guess someone's in the wrong here. It's obviously me by your standards, so that's fine. We'll just say that pants down. That's pretty good. That's a pretty unreasonable charge. Very. You like Star Wars? Yep. I have a life-size R2-D2 in my house. Huh. Uh my wife won't let me have all that stuff. Huh? My wife won't have let me have a We got a small house, so a lot of my stuff's packed up. Yeah, it'd have been better if we could at least been cordial to each other. If we could have been Yeah, cuz I just came off as such a dick. Whatever. You have a different belief. And your gut's got to tell you you're doing something wrong here. Nope. If it's not, you need to find yourself. On my way to 200 now. 1123 12 We have 233 subject. He actually 2 Legacy old department of the highway. 12 11 K 12 What do you have to do with me at your station? You'll be booked in at Doraville. And then this evening I'm going to what I'm going to do is instead of waiting tomorrow I'm going to see if morning watch can go ahead and get you over to DeKalb County for your first appearance so you can go ahead and make bond instead of putting it off till tomorrow. I appreciate that. Yes, sir. When do they hold that hearing? 10-15-6 Do what, sir? When do they hold that hearing? Uh they do through the evening. They can set it up tonight. We got a couple of rookies on morning watch that need the experience. I'm actually insulin diabetic. Okay. And uh I didn't think to mention it to you when you were detaining me. But I uh don't have my meds with me. Okay. What you can do is normally we don't allow phone calls until you're booked. But if you want to go ahead and make arrangements to get that stuff to you, you can do so. I'll let you make that call. Get it down here because if you you end up having to be a med call, you'll end up going to Grady. Okay. What do we need to show them tonight? Okay. The deputy chief for the city of Atlanta jail is on his way over there. What is his name again? 906. 906. Let me check. Let me check. Let me check his name on the board. Okay, sir. How long have you been working in the city? All my years. Almost 29 J.D. Cannon? Yep. I have to add him. I haven't talked to him in years, but he's a friend. We worked together. I'll never forget when I went to EVOC before they even welcomed us to the class. They said, "Who in the world is driving that ugly baby blue police car?" Luckily, we switched over about that time, too. Our shirts used to be that color, too. Well, we had a budget cut in 2011 and I was in an admin position. So, in order to come back to the road, I had to take a uh lowering, but it kept me in the business, kept me doing the job I love, so. The city back in 2011 was in a lot of financial trouble. We lost 12 people in one swoop. What do you think they're trying to send you to jail? Hey Cap. Just stand right here for me. Can you hold my phone for me? Yeah, here you go. Sir, if you would just step over there by that door, I'll be with you in a second. Yes, sir. Thank you. Mr. Shelton, right here by the We'll take those cuffs off real quick. Here's his phone. Huh? I've been driving since I don't know how long. I'll do one in just a second. So, just take everything out of your pockets. Your hat, shoes, belt, anything in your pockets, and just put them in the uh in there. As soon as we get done with pat down, he needs to make a call to try to get some medicine. You could do that for me. Thank you. Do I keep my glasses or what? Yeah, you can keep your glasses. You want my belt and my shoes, right? Your belt and shoes, yes, sir. And your necklace. You want me to have the bag? This right here, the two There's the red dots are the originals. And then all this paperwork goes in. There's a copy of the warrant here. There's a ticket, too, that's been voided. So, I'll just write void on so you don't get confused. Let me have the one that's not a red dot. Cuz they should be on the bottom. Is there one or just one more? No, there's two. Traffic violation and then the other one. I think the originals go down, right? They go when you're on the yellow, yes. Okay. So, if you were just to put your hands up on the wall, spread your legs just a little bit, please. Lift your foot. Okay. Okay, we're going to do it one more time. She was a witness on a a parole and sex offender register is innocent message with her screen name. The sexual offender's name is Jeremy Dewitt. Do you think it's Jennifer Burton? I think it's Jennifer Burton. I know who that is. That makes sense. Miss Barbara said I'm head of case back when she was sex crimes with Miss Burton and she said I understand Jennifer Burton is I don't want to say crazy but she's crazy and that she is delusional and that she makes things up.