[Music] hi there we are uh hey john can you hear me all right i can hear you just fine all right um you all thank you for for joining me here i'm john bryan uh west virginia civil rights civil rights lawyer civil rights lawyer.com and this is episode number 57 of freedom is scary a lot of people have been asking me to hurry up and talk about some of the federal gun control stuff after about what a week ago joe biden said what he said so i finally got john crump back on here from the goa the gun owners of america and i appreciate you joining us john thank you so much i'm i'm glad to be here um you know i i i thought i'd start off with a you know and with a quote here and there's there's a lot of of gun rights or firearms quotes from our founding fathers and this is just one that i picked out the other day and get a chance to use but i think it it it pertains to what i talked about on monday and that is you know the danger of getting too much power in the hands of one person especially somebody like joe biden and that here's the quote from one of my favorite founding fathers john adams 1772 there's danger from all men the only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty now that that's john adams uh from 1772 and i don't know john if you saw if you saw uh my last video but i did a really a talk that i sort of recited that i heard from dr robert george on saturday it was fantastic and it and it really put an emphasis on not just the bill of rights we shouldn't just depend on the bill of rights because you know we we have these rights naturally you know before the bill of rights was was enacted or was ratified but the the design of the constitution itself is designed to create somebody like joe biden from doing something like joe biden's trying to do with gun control oh yeah i mean the thing is executive orders i believe are unconstitutional but i also believe that executive actions are actually worse than executive orders because they really have no place uh there's not really a constitutional even like case law for executive actions there's a lot less restrictions on executive actions because they're not really you know challenged that much or done yeah there's i mean there's i mean really you don't even really understand the we depend on the supreme court now you know all right the supreme court will save our second amendment the supreme court will save our first amendment and so on and we completely forget about i mean those are amendments to the constitution the constitution itself is the ingenious design that protects against tyrants and that is the the design itself a separation of powers both vertically and horizontally to keeping the all legislative power in the hands of congress and then giving no legislative power therefore to the executive branch and now up is down and down is up and and and just in time for a wonderful intelligent um president like joe biden now he has you know it seems like the majority of the the legislative power that congress is supposed to have under under the design of our constitution yeah exactly there's definitely should be a separation of powers uh and i i believe executive orders and i believe executive actions both or violate that separation of powers because you're basically legislating and now he's telling the atf to use their regulatory powers um to basically pass the fact of laws kind of what they did with the bump stocks where they rolled bump stocks or a machine gun when they weren't and a lot of people back then i fought really really hard against that and a lot of people were like it's just a piece of plastic what does it matter well now we're seeing why it mattered now for those of you that don't know if you haven't seen any of the other times we've talked before on these videos john crump is with the goa or the gun owners of america and in my opinion they've sort of they've taken the place where the the nra used to fill of really fighting hard for for our our second amendment for our gun rights for our our liberty period and they've been fighting in the front lines a lot of these a lot of these battles in court and particularly they've been smart enough where the the nra hasn't really done this in the past to recognize that you have to fight for for other rights you know other like fourth amendment rights because a lot if not most of our gun rights are under the fourth amendment and so john is with the goa and that's if you didn't know who he was that's that's why that's why i'm wanting to have him on so absolutely like red flag laws is definitely a violation of like fourth and fifth amendment rights um like there's lots of overlap with the second amendment and the fourth amendment for example and a lot of a lot of that gets lost in translation because people only care about the second amendment but a lot of these a lot of these things violate more than just the second amendment like you can even look at like 3d printing for example in code because code is free speech and a lot of people say okay well you know they're banning 3d printed file files that's a violation of the second amendment but that is also a violation of the first amendment because they've in a lot of cases they've already ruled that code is free speech and those files are are free speech in their code but they're trying to ban them so not only are they taking attacking the second amendment on 3d printed files they're also attacking the first amendment um here's here's what i want to do let me just play a clip of of kind of some of what joe biden said here six six or seven days ago and let me get you your thoughts on it and then maybe then we'll just get briefly into kind of what people know as far as what what their what their second amendment rights are so far according to the supreme court and then uh and then you know what the goa is doing so let me let me see if i can bring in joe biden there we go let me know if you can't hear this nothing nothing i'm about to recommend in any way impinges on the second amendment they're phony arguments suggesting that these are second amendment rights at stake for what we're talking about but no amendment no amendment to the constitution is absolute gun violence in this country is an epidemic and it's an international embarrassment i asked the attorney general and his team to identify for me immediate concrete actions i could take now without having to go through the congress and today i'm announcing several initial steps my administration is taking to curb this epidemic of gun violence much more need be done but the first first i want to reign in the proliferation of so-called ghost guns these are guns that are homemade during my campaign for president i wanted to make it easier for states to adopt extreme risk protection order laws they're also called red flag laws these laws allow a police or family member to petition a court in their jurisdiction and say i want you to temporarily move from the following people any firearm they may possess to close the charr with somebody known as the charleston loophole like people here i spent time down at that church in charleston if the fbi hasn't come didn't complete the background check within three days there's a process it wasn't done in three days according to charleston loophole you get to buy the gun they bought the gun and killed a hell of a lot of innocent people reauthorized the violence campsun act which in so-called clothes the boyfriend and stalking loopholes to keep guns out of the hands of people found by a court to be an abuser and continuing threat the idea that we have so many people dying every single day from gun violence in america is a blemish on our character as a nation i am under no illusions about how hard it is all right well good thing good thing that guy's not on the supreme court first of all absolutely um yeah i mean what were he talked about a couple different things there uh you know the thing that sticked out to me the most stuck out to me the most was when he said you know no no amendment no constitutional amendment is absolute i don't know what um and i can get to that but what were your thoughts after you you heard that mess the the first thought i had was when is he going to push the fbi atf whoever to prosecute his son for lying on the 4473 that's the first thing i want i wondered because his son did lie in the 4473 i mean that there's no doubt about that if you don't know he bought a gun while he was abusing drugs and he marked that he was not uh an illegal user of drugs and he was using drugs at the time so when is he going to push the sun his the prosecution of his son the second thing that that i thought of was a lot of people on like the far left which i consider the people controlling him to be on the far left because this is coming from other people not just him they have this thought that the constitution is a living breathing document that can be changed at any time without actually changing it just by saying oh we need to adapt it to the times so we're going to consider this that or whatnot which i don't think is actually very smart and i don't think there is anything in history that says that's the way it should be viewed we always hear them say when the constitution was written people only had muskets and it brings up two points first when the constitution was written there was more than muskets but that's beyond the point muskets wore a weapon of war and they're trying to ban weapons of war well at the time the weapons of war was what everyone had second if it only applies to stuff that was around during the founding of the constitution that means anything written on the typewriter or anything else is not covered by free speech you know it definitely that's a great that's a great point to some of these some of these so-called journalists that all right all right let's point out your double standard if if we're only allowed to have flint locks because that was what was around in 1789 and 1790 then you're only allowed to have what you know you uh the the the printing presses that take up like this entire room with the big block letters and quill pins and you know ink that you have to import from europe i mean that you know if if the second amendment is limited to that then your you know the first amendment's going to be limited to that as well which which it obviously isn't so that you know and they don't they don't have any good come back from that yeah exactly they don't and they usually try to skip over a bunch of stuff like the weapons of war question when you point out hey well you know the second amendment was guaranteeing the people rights that have so-called weapons of war because muskets is what they have not only that um there was um a the case of the semi-automatic shock not some automatic shotgun sorry the sawed-off shotgun from right after uh the nfa went into effect where somebody tried to sue because they wanted to have a like a 2 inch shotgun or something crazy like that and the courts rolled because that had no no um no use in actual combat that it wasn't covered under the second amendment and now we go from that to you know weapons that are like have combat proficiency or weapons that can be used in combat are not covered under the second amendment i don't get it you know the you know so for those of you who don't know really our our second amendment has only been really given to us or extended to us by the supreme court in the case of district of columbia versus heller from 2008. now the heller case is really i mean you have to read the heller case if you're going to understand what second amendment law is at this point and heller actually went into you know a lot of these things some of some of what you're talking about you know here's here's what you know scalia wrote wrote heller and he he mentioned what you're talking about that yeah the people had what were used as weapons of war at the time the constitution was ratified or at the time the second amendment was drafted but it's but they didn't have these technological weapons of war he he drew a distinction between what the citizens possessed at that time and the type of weapons that the citizens possess now so i i don't this i don't agree with that i mean be because the you know under scalia's reasoning because the people possessed flintlock rifles and flintlock muskets in 1789 you know those were that just happened to be used as weapons of war um so but but they already had them in their possession whereas now the regular folks out there don't have fully automatic m16s for instance in their in their widespread possession and those are weapons of four but they don't have them in their possess and in their possessions so you know he sort of drew a difference of well back then our our military capabilities were just bringing the people together and forming them into a militia and they were already armed with these weapons they already had therefore the second amendment applies to those weapons that they already had um but we can't say now all the citizens are entitled to use any automatic rifle that the military uses because although they are you know they are arms to be beared as the second amendment meant they're not in widespread common ownership and usage by the general public that that's the dichotomy that he drew that that really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me but that that's what he said well even if you go by what scalia said um about i like common and widespread use they want to ban like ar-15s and stuff and there's 20 million ar-15s in the united states there's i think 320 million american adults so there's um basically a huge percentage of american adults that own ar-15s and if you look at the number of ar-15s in circulation compared to the number of adults you you have to consider them common they're more common than a hunting rifle at this point if you if you actually read the text of heller it makes it makes a wonderful case for extending the second amendment to us being able to own according to supreme court ar-15 style rifles he makes he sets that up and that obviously wasn't at issue in heller and that's gonna that that needs to happen but he sets it up he sets it up and i have i have some excerpts of of of heller but you know it it just shows you anytime you hear a politician such as joe manchin has done this are our fud rhino governor jim justice has done this these idiots equate the second amendment with hunting they just do that that's it with hunting and when they do that you know it's like jim justice i have a video somewhere of him talking about well i support the second amendment you know my bird dog lady birds i love that dog i love that dog but you know you know just to say that anybody should be able to go go get a gun i don't agree with that and you hear something like that and you know that this man has never read the most important case and firearms rights history from the supreme court or most important case ever handed down by the supreme court and that's dc versus heller you know he hasn't read that case because it says nothing about bird dogs it implies nothing about bird dogs or hunting i've never hunted in my life for example and and you know if if these people would just read this opinion dc versus heller 2008 they would learn so much and you know i have some excerpts here well here here's the thing it's not that they don't read it it's just that they choose to ignore it in a lot of cases could debit agree with what they think well you know you're in virginia not west virginia so you you haven't been subjected to the the uh coveted updates that that we get over here from from our governor so i think you'd disagree with me i i can guarantee you i would bet a million dollars that he has not read it absolutely yeah his lawyers have read it for sure but he's not talking about just him i'm talking about a lot of people on the anti-gun side yeah they just don't care um before i get to specific excerpts from heller that i think are important let me show you i was looking at an auction website one of the big firearms auctions uh places that not just antiques but also they they auction all sorts of modern firearms class three stuff a lot of interesting things being auctioned right now you know for instance people think you can't own an m60 or a fully automatic belt fed you know mg 42 german machine gun and people are buying and selling these things for ginormous amounts of money as we speak pretty much but there's also some interesting historic firearms being auctioned right now that i just took a couple screenshots because you know i think it's interesting you know you you have heller that that states that you know if it was a firearm that was of common type of ownership at the at the time of the second amendment that that it's protected or that it it uh you know invokes the second amendment protections now i don't know that that they completely understand you people have people think that they were just single shot you know flintlocks around and that's just not the case the other thing that even courts such as the ninth circuit said the other day in their young versus hawaii case is that you know it wasn't meant to protect people carrying firearms with them concealed or otherwise and that's just a bunch of crap i think that's a terrible terrible decision and hopefully uh it will get appealed and one on a pill let me show you just a couple of the interesting things that i saw take a look at this look at that a uh a volley gun there's a flintlock 18th century what is it one two three four five six seven shot hey if you want to have seven shots in the 18th century there's an easy solution to that you just have seven different barrels so there's a seven seven barrel 18th century assault rifle that any peasant could own if he had enough money to own um from from the 18th century here is you know you go into the 19th century and you see all sorts of crazy stuff because we you know we we civilians private companies were inventing things like crazy trying to make guns that shot faster and reloaded uh more quickly and look at this you have all these gatlin-type guns you know from the united states from the 1800s starting in like the 1850s through like the 1880s yep and check out that one i hadn't seen that before gardner mechanical rapid fire two-barrel gun i mean we talked about we have first pro first world problems now we didn't have first world problems initially we had real problems that required actual firepower and we had inventors that would come up with this stuff and there was no there was no prohibition ever until like what 1934 on any any american citizen buying any kind of military developed firearms that were on the market although you can still get gatling guns and they and they don't fall under um the nfa with machine guns which a lot of people don't realize because the 1954 ruling which um from what i hear is one of the i actually wrote an article about it is one of the things that uh david chipman who is biden's atf director and nominee wants to go after trigger cranks and stuff like that and wants to reverse the rolling the 1954 ruling uh about galilee goods yeah that that's a pressing problem right now we really need to you know we really need to to do that how many how many crimes have been committed with a trigger crank or a gatling gun you know well that depends if you include video games or not because i've seen my 13 year old son you know absolutely you know commit crimes against humanity and and red dead redemption too if you know that video game yes you know where you're in the wild west and if when he gets a hold of a gatling gun in that game i mean he talk about a domestic terrorist he i mean he absolutely terrorizes the wild west but it's you know outside of video games i'm not aware of one happening and if you like gatling guns in this one of these auctions i was looking at and this is i think rock island auctions they have all sorts of amazing machine guns and and then stuff going back to the 1600s that they're selling you know i think coming up in in may and some of their auctions but uh there was a there's different kinds of gatling guns i showed you some of those some of those different styles but there was like a gatling gun gatling gun like like you like you're used to seeing like you pictured like you or at least i pictured when i was a kid i had a little mini gatling gun that my father had bought me at a gun show but there's one for sale and so that's great if you you don't have to buy a 200 tax stamp and and wait to buy it you can just buy it now and not have to worry about the aft but you know it's only like 75 000 that that's it so you know if you've got 75 000 and you want to get around the the nfa rules well you can buy one right now yeah that would be nice um yeah i mean i don't know have you ever shot one of the have you ever shot a gatling gun yeah crank gun yeah yeah i have i have shot it uh they're incredibly fun you've got to get the rhythm down just two and turn at the same rhythm and it's a lot of fun i did that on vegas do you think it was was do you think it would have been at least for the time completely unpractical and practical to roll around with a gatling gun i mean to use i guess to you to use in warfare you know warfare of the time i mean i guess you've got to get it there with a horse but i mean it was an hour let me ask you it was i mean could you actually hit with your aim or are you just throwing lead oh i mean it was like it was like at 20 yards at that point you're gonna hit you're gonna hit it i didn't try it at any type of uh distance but i believe it you probably would be able to cut down um some people or at least break the lines going back to to heller just just briefly the you know i mean some there's a lot of of really great excerpts that that can be used out of there i mean here's here's a couple of them that i pulled out and again this is from scalia putting all these ex textual elements together we find that they guarantee the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation so not hunting confrontation this meaning is strongly confirmed by the historical background of the second amendment we look to this because it has always been widely understood that the second amendment like the first and fourth amendments codified a pre-existing right the very text of the second amendment implicitly recognized the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it shall not be infringed so that that's another another thing that the politicians completely ignore or don't understand is that the second amendment didn't create this new right for us to be able to bear arms to possess firearms that we didn't already have it just protected it against this new federal government that these states were creating and agreeing to yeah i i call the bill of rights uh document of negative liberties not because it's negative liberty for uri but it's a document of negative liberty for the federal government it's saying don't you dare uh infringe on this right because you didn't get this right and you don't have the ability to infringe on the freight because this right is not from you you know and again in that you have to and scalia did this you have to look at the second amendment in the context of of of the time and originally it only applied to congress only applied to congress and that's because you already had these 13 sovereign colonies these these sovereign states that they had won their independence and they didn't have to they didn't have to agree on anything you know they could have just been their own any of them been their own country they didn't have to agree to create this united states and one of the worries was of of the the founding fathers and their respective colonies was that look if we agree to join this united states what happens if congress disarms our people and then they're helpless at the mercy of this new federal government that we've created and scalia says in heller he recognizes this he says that in the tumultuous decades of the 1760s and the 1770s that the crown the english crown began to disarm the inhabitants of the most rebellious areas and that provoked polemical reactions by americans invoking their rights as englishmen to keep arms a new york article of april 1769 said that it's a natural right which the people have reserved to themselves confirmed by the bill of rights to keep for their own defense and that the fact is is that where i lost it there the uh anti-federalists specifically were worried the anti-federalists feared that the federal government would disarm the people in order to disable the citizens right to be able to form this these militias and that would enable a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule the country the response to get these states these these colonies to join this united states was to restrict or deny congress the power to abridge this ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms so that this ideal of a citizen's militia would be preserved so that's right out of heller pages 22 all the way through pages 28. yeah it definitely is it definitely is um so the right to keep and bear arms not only it wasn't created by the second amendment this is as per heller it wasn't created by the second amendment we already had it it was a natural right that that we had even before so you know while it memorializes or codifies this right the whole point was restricting congress from what they can't do they didn't think to restrict the the president because the president wasn't supposed to be doing this yeah it looks like the executive branch over the years have grown in power a lot more power than i think it should have there should be an equal balance of power and right now i don't think that we have an equal balance of power and with i in with a biden's executive actions not only on guns but on other things as well it appears that he decided that he has more power than what the constitution grants them yeah sharkey says m208 law rocket 50 caliber m16a1 i m60 i do have a place called uh swamp armory that is building me a uh restoring me like an m2 nice so yeah that's gonna be a nice machine gun um bubba smith america's just run by mandates now might as well just have a president and governors we don't need the rest of them well you know as i explained on monday you know i mean really at this point we'd be better off if we had a monarchy because then at least we we had some chance that we had a king or queen that was better than what we have now and and would would would you know protect our rights more than than than they're currently being protected but but uh they're not being protected at all no no no absolutely not and i mean here's all right so going back to biden's speech he says that no amendment is what did he say that that no amendment is is absolute yeah all right no amendment is absolute now i don't know if he was reading a teleprompter or what i think what he meant to say or what his people wrote for him was that no constitutional right is absolute i mean no no uh i mean the amendment absolutely is absolute i mean unless the amendment is is uh is changed or or revoked i mean it's there so what he meant is what he meant to say and and heller went into the basic exceptions of of what they said the second amendment were even as of the date of of the founding the drafting of the second amendment and that's the basic uh where is it so there seems let's see all right this is the language i think he was his people were pointing him to this is from heller scalia wrote there seems to be no doubt on the basis of both text and history that the second amendment conferred an individual right to keep and bear arms of course the right was not unlimited so i don't i think he i think that's what he meant to say no right is is is unlimited not no amendment not the amendment is not not absolute i don't think he knows what he meant to say no no you know the sailors might have meant to say that but i don't think he does yeah you know the you know the thing you know the thing you know yeah the thing but um just real quickly going back to scalia what he wrote he wrote of course the right was not unlimited just as the first amendment's right of free speech was not see united states versus williams and everyone likes to say the the the yelling fire in a theater case thus we do not read the second amendment to protect the right of citizens to carry arms for any sort of confrontation just as we do not read the first amendment to protect the right of citizens to speak for any purpose now the so there can be restrictions on the the right to keep and bear arms according to scalia and heller and the the basic ones come up and i think is specifically what he said although we do not undertake an exhaustive historical analysis today of the full scope of the second amendment nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on the long-standing prohibitions on the possession of fire firearms by felons and the mentally ill or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms now the the where that leads us to is as of today in 2021 for a long time we already have plenty of federal gun control it already exists in fact under federal law alone there are numerous restrictions on gun possession we have felons those who have been adjudicated as mentally defective or who have been committed to a mental institution unlawful drug users or addicts persons who have been dishonorably discharged from the armed forces illegal aliens and others it's and as you pointed out with hunter biden the president's own son it's a crime to knowingly receive a firearm well he didn't do this that i know of but it's a it's a crime to knowingly receive a firearm with an obliterated or altered serial number a crime to possess a machine gun unless you have the the adequate paperwork in place a crime for a minor to possess a firearm except under limited conditions violent crimes or drug traffic trafficking crimes committed with a firearm are subject to enhanced punishments and there are other restrictions on possessions possession use of gun gun laws under state laws right now i mean we have all sorts uh we have so much gun control that already exists that one person can hardly keep track of at all yeah as of march 31st there's a little over 27 million people that are not eligible to own firearms over the age of 18 in the united states going and again going back to hunter biden and uh what i what i meant to point out was that you know when you buy a gun you mentioned the what form 4473 4473 the one he lied on right is a felony so if you if you've ever bought a gun you know from uh from a gun shop from a gun store from a an ffl a federal firearms license holder you have to fill out a form and it says you know or have you ever been convicted of a felony blah blah blah you have to check all the boxes and a couple of those boxes were actually applicable to hunter biden yeah and he lied on that forum right yeah well uh one said are you a an unlawful user of drugs and at the time he was smoking crack so yes he was an unlawful user of drugs so he lied and there's a rapper his name uh escapes me right now but he was busted for uh marijuana shortly after he had a gun and they prosecuted him as a felony for lying on the 4473 um because they said hey you lied on the 4473. i cannot remember what his name is hank strange did a video on him but the other biden smokes crack and you know they don't do any they just sweep it under the rug yeah i mean who know i mean um who knew who knew i mean that i mean heck i didn't know that that you can't smoke crack and then and then go buy a firearm from a gun shop i mean heck i could have been in trouble for that many different times i mean i mean the funny thing is when he's like i cannot i cannot say for sure if those pictures of the person smoking crack is me or not and i'm thinking myself like you know somebody said we got a picture of you smoking crack up and laugh because like no you don't you know i wouldn't be i wouldn't say i'm not really sure if that would be me or not yeah i mean yeah i'm not sure kind of looks like me but i don't remember that crack pipe you know this exactly i would i i know i wouldn't buy a purple crack pipe i know that uh so i mean that's the joke with this whole thing and not that it's a joke because these people know they're not really trying to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals people who would who would commit mass murder or go out and and you know sell drugs or or shoot police officers whatever i mean that if they're going to break the law those things that they're doing are already against numerous laws so they they're obviously not they've demonstrated by virtue of the fact that they're in the process of committing a crime that they don't follow the laws they don't care if it's against the law they're going to do it and they know that it's it's really about disarming i think at this point disarming their political opposition yeah i did see a question out there somebody asked me if i think they're going to come after binary triggers i think that is on the list but that's tor and if the i think it's on the top 10 list of things they want to do um that they that they are thinking about using regulatory powers to go after but i think there's about seven other things that are a little bit higher on that list that they're going to try to use regulatory powers yeah there it is so explain what are binary and similar triggers okay a machine gun is basically you pull a trigger and it fires multiple rounds with a single action pulling trigger back that single action a binary trigger like the ones made by franklin armory fostech and a few others uh digital trigger when you pull the trigger it fires one shot and when you release the trigger it fires another so that is two separate actions so it didn't qualify as a machine gun but it does speed up the rate of fire they're fun so so the the way that it's supposed to be done is if if the democrats want to outlaw a certain kind of trigger what do they do they're supposed to to do it through congress to enact legislation yeah but i think they're going to go after it with regulatory powers but like i said there's about seven other things that they want to go after david shipman in 2018 wrote a piece for giffords he used to work for giffords or still to have worked for giffords or whatever but he was talking about how magazines speed up like re detachable magazines speed up the rate of fire therefore should be classified as machine guns basically and i'm not even making that up well part of the problem is these people i mean you have you have i mean i think it's like the difference you know it's like the difference difference between blue areas or blue states or blue counties and red counties and that kind of comes down to urban versus rural and a lot of this these ruling class types who become supreme court justices federal judges head of the fbi president united states these people they're all maybe they weren't born in in a blue district or in an urban area or a suburban area like northern virginia or whatnot but that's the crowd that they've that's the bubble that they've been in much much of their lives maybe they they ride on the metro they or their the subways and they they go up and down elevators and these tall buildings they live a much different life than maybe those of us who live in the rural areas of the country and who who actually you know use guns that shoot guns for fun or familiar with guns have been hunting or not been hunting just been target shooting whatever these people that's not even a part of their life it hasn't been a part of their life for instance do you remember when james comey is testifying before congress and somebody asks him well you know is it true some i'm paraphrasing is it true that you can buy guns on the internet and he's like well you know i i don't know that's a good question and he basically demonstrated that he had no idea that you couldn't just order a gun as a regular person off the internet which you should be able to do and have it delivered to your house yeah you could buy a gun off the internet but then it goes to a gun dealer and then you got to go to that gun dealer and you got to fill out that form that hunter biden light on and you got to get your fbi background check and all that so yeah you're buying a gun off the internet but what the hell difference does that make because you're still ending up at the gun dealer he didn't know that because he'd never bought a gun very clearly he's just a different world than much of the country that does exercise the right to keep and bear arms and and does have live a life where guns are uh or incon you know is a common a common part of their life like like life used to be in 1789 yeah i i i'm born and raised in northern virginia and northern virginia has not always been like that so i resent that comment well well i can argue with you about it because my wife is from northern virginia where in northern virginia are you i was born in arlington i live in loudoun okay i'm not i'm not super familiar with it but my wife is from fairfax county and she has like umpteen brothers five brothers one of whom is is worked for the government and is amazing with guns was a was a really one of the foremost experts on using handguns in combat specifically like clock 19 and and he he's taught me you know a lot as far as shooting and i've never seen anybody shoot like that but he explained to me like look in the you know where i grew up my neighborhood and all that you know nobody taught us anything about you know we didn't we weren't around guns and it wasn't until he went into that as a career that he really learned to love guns and and and uh and learn about them how to shoot them and and all that i mean it just wasn't a part of life as like somebody who's in suburban washington dc and everyone works for the government i mean because you're in dc you don't have any right to be around guns or you hadn't in the past um but you know regardless of of your your experience i think a lot of a lot of these people they just they really have had no exposure to firearms among many other things that we do in rural america well uh yeah i mean a lot of well growing up i didn't i well my mom used when we lived in fairfax she did use a 38 special to defend us from a home invader another baby and one of the reasons why i'm so pro 2a but yeah um a lot of my friends uh parents and i mean i really didn't grow up around guns and my friends really didn't grow up around guns either so i can see that but northern virginia took a hard left probably within the last 20 years like a very hard left within the last 20 years yeah see i had the i had the complete opposite experience i mean i grew up in florida i mean held a county that i grew up and probably had six six hundred or seven hundred thousand people in it but you know the all of the population is just condensed on each coast in florida and then and then in inland florida you have it's just very rural very much like west virginia in many places and i grew up on the coast in brevard county but literally behind my house was nothing but swamp i had an airboat in my backyard i'd get in my airboat when i was in high school and and drive right out of my backyard so i could also shoot guns and all that but but but growing up my my father was a was a class three um you know had a class three uh license with the the federal government whatever you call it where he could he could buy and sell machine guns and he he got into to collecting machine guns and i got to shoot all sorts of crazy stuff when i was still a kid you know stoners stoner 63s you know thompson submachine guns um minimi belt feds also you know you know all sorts of world war ii era belt fed guns i got to shoot a lot of things um i got to go in i don't know i was probably i was probably like 11 or 12 in the early early 90s i got to go and read knight's gun room in vero beach florida and hang out with him and my dad and that was i think the the most fabulous moment of my life still today at you know over 40 years of age i can look back whatever whatever day that was in the 90s where i got to go in that room with machine guns everywhere and the most awesome thing i had seen up to that point probably since which was the handheld mini gun from the movie predator and so i i had in the opposite experience i guess where i was exposed to to firearms i mean you know it was i was taught from a young age how to use them safely and and trusted with the ability to to pick up a machine gun by myself load it and you know try to write my name in a giant dirt pile you know with it doing a mag dump and you know i that was just that was that's the perspective that i was i was coming from but you know if i encounter somebody else that had a different perspective you know they they don't they don't know anything about i mean they they there's there's a knowledge gap there they know nothing about firearms they're scared of them it's like media you know the media they think everything's an ak-47 or an ar-15 they know nothing absolutely nothing about them and that's not the way our country was at the time the second amendment was drafted i mean every household if they could afford them not only had guns but was commanded by law to have guns i mean that was a part of being american for for many many years especially at the beginning and we've gotten so far away from that yeah vero beach that that's exactly where that was in vero beach i'm sorry i'm i'm ranting here but oh no but yeah i mean it it uh anyway i'm not sure what we were talking about but i did get to go and read knight's gun room once as a kid and you know what we were what i got to see there is like every early every early armalite in cult like he had them all lined up in sequential order for serial number he had like the very first serial numbers and people don't realize that you know ar in ar-15 stands for armalite on assault rifle and the very first ar-15s were fully automatic oh yeah so uh you know now they're not obviously oh yeah yeah um the history of the ar-15 is very very um unique and it's very interesting i highly recommend anyone look into it if you want to read a good story about ar-15s and why they were created and the oppositions to the ar-15s and how they developed over the years it's it's very very eye-opening um eugene stoner was uh was a genius and when he first created i'm a historian when it comes to firearms but when he first created it and and showed it off the air force was the first uh military to actually adopt it and a lot of the army and guys and marine guys they're like over those look like space guns because they're all like plastic and stuff like that didn't the air force have some with like the blue plastic stocks or am i no no no no no you're right you're right um i don't think they've ever made it into actual combat or anything like that what was what was the what was the book you were talking about no um there's no book i just said if if you have if you have some free time start looking up the history of the ar-15 yeah do you have you uh do you have a copy of the what's it called the black rifle the black rifle book yeah yeah when i was a kid my dad was going to write a i don't know if it was like a a sequel to that and this was just this was i mean he was a he was a surgeon this is just his hobby really he just enjoyed it but he went he flew out to california and he toured the remnants of the building that was the very the headquarters where armalite had designed the ar-15 and the related prototypes and he went out and interviewed people and he took pictures of the facility and i think we still have all that somewhere then he never he never ended up following through with it and hey maybe if he's listening maybe now's a good time to do that but but uh i i remember he he compiled a bunch of different copies of of the black rifle and that that is a good book if you can find one i don't know if it's still in print but it has all this yeah all the history of it and the different little you know different little types of m16s that they came out with i don't think it's in print anymore but you can always find copies on ebay yeah so i highly recommend that book and it's sort of a picture book so even joe biden could read that book it's called the black rifle i don't know who who wrote it but it everything you wanted to know pretty much about the development of the the m16 the ar-15 who who ironically these journalists like they think we've all we've seen the video of the journalists like shooting the ar-15 for the first time and it's like this traumatic event for him and he's like oh but it it actually the beauty of of the design is is that it doesn't kick at all well that's one of the reasons or why the why stoner designed it the way he designed it and the round that he chose is is the kick and everything else yeah i mean you can give it to i mean maybe not a full fully automatic but you can give it to a child or or a small woman to shoot and i mean they can put rounds on target with it i mean there's there's i mean as opposed to like a 30 odd 6 or something like that i mean that really does have some kick to it or hell as opposed to a flintlock that you can see in my you know in my my intro and extra video that has a hell of can have a hell of a kick to it and also have a small explosion next to your eyeball yeah my friend roger when that when that reporter came out with the whole thing uh he cut a video it's probably still floating out there of the reporter like shooting and crying and talking about how much it kicked then another picture of his nine-year-old daughter firing at art yeah somewhere i have a picture of of my my daughter when she was young like like loading loading pmags or something but yeah absolutely little kids can shoot it now fully automatic i mean it it it can it's not accurate at all i mean it's just kind of kind of all over the place yeah you gotta you gotta learn how to control the rise and muzzle rise yeah now as opposed to that i can recall my father i think it bought an mg42 and that was if you don't know i mean i know you know but the yeah that's what they called hitler's chainsaw or something like that i mean it's a it's a large it's a it's a high power round a very very fast rate of fire and i can remember as a kid like shooting that for the first time that was brutal it was like brutal or even an m60 an m60 is like you're not gonna put a a a woman on that m60 and let them hold it and and fire it very easily i mean they're going to have to be pretty strong a bigger person you definitely don't want a kid doing it i mean it's it really is a brutal a uh a lot of a lot of kick to it heavy in the m16 i mean m16 ar15 it's just so it was just so kind of petite and and and and small caliber and and you can i mean very accurate yeah uh well one of the things about the old m16s is their twist twist rate i think we're like very high i think they're like one in 14 or 16 or something like that and so the bullet would tumble a lot so even even though that they were a lot smaller caliber they were tumbling so they would do a lot a lot of damage later on they went down to like 111 and less than that even yeah when i when i was a kid in the in the earlier 90s i used to go deer hunting with an ar-15 just for the sole reason that it was cool and the the really what you could buy back then are those colt sp1s from like the 70s and the 80s and that's what they were is that what like 1 in 12 or 1 in 14 twist barrels and they i mean you had to shoot like 55 grain really small rounds out of it and and i think a little like japanese cult 3x scope on it and i i'd kill deer with that and hell that was in the that was in the early 90s before they came out with all these great accessories and the things you have available now but you know now they seem to have like a one to seven one to eight twist something like that yeah most of them are one one this a one eleven a one to 11 is like i don't know high but yeah i think they were like one and 12 is the the the sp ones if i'm not most taken but they used to be up like really high i think they were like 1 and 14 when they originally came out to to and it was actually to make the bullet tumble my kids were shooting 12 gauges 10 years old full auto m16 had no problem uh mark miller love black powder not effective or anything just be beautiful yeah i mean i love i love shooting black powder there's two things really i found that are really fun to shoot one is machine guns and then the other is black powder like especially flintlocks i i get really equal fun out of shooting both of those things and flintlocks like you you know like biden hasn't tried to you know call the aft down on flintlocks just yet probably it's coming though i'm sure yeah the favorite gun i've ever fired is also my favorite gun of all time is the uh the the mp44 or also known as the stg44 i got to fire one a lot out in vegas i was out there uh with rifle dynamics and the owner of whiteboard dynamics was like hey what's your favorite gun i was like at mp44 he was like oh i have one like no you don't and he brought it out and uh he and the bullets on that are really expensive the rounds are really expensive because they're not really used or anything anymore so um we went ahead and fired like a like a full magazine pull and i was like thank you so much and he's like load it up again so i'll load it up again and down by the end of the day i put like a thousand rounds of really expensive ammo down range through my favorite gun so it will always be one of my favorite gun memories is is is that the same thing as the the storm viewer yeah yeah it's uh it's it's basically what the uh the ak is based on uh if it's if you look at it it looks like an ak if i look if you look at this most recent auction that i'm talking about that's up right now at rock island auction they have i think one or two of those and they also have this super futuristic look looking assault rifle that the not that the the germans came up with in world war ii i think maybe towards the end of the war and there's one for sale and i've actually seen this gun in person i've seen this gun in person i didn't hold it but i looked at it in person and it is it is so cool and you'll you'll immediately identify it it'll it will look familiar to you and that's because it looks just like the laser gun that the stormtroopers have at star wars it was actually designed after a nazi assault rifle and i never i never realized that there's one for sale in this auction right now and it's only like a half a million dollars yeah i think i felt like the the scga 44 would go for like a hundred grand if they're all like if they're all original um klashnikov says he didn't rip when he was alive he said he didn't rip off the sdg-44 he had no idea that it existed but if you look at the two rifles it's like yeah um he ripped it off i know he says that he based the ak on the m1 go pick up uh go shoot a original ak-47 from like the 40s and shoot at sgg44 or mp44 whatever you want to call it you're going to be like yeah kalashnikov had a lot he just influenced him a lot there's no way you can tell me that he he wasn't influenced by it speaking of that gun i i think i can i ha i saved a screenshot of it as well i didn't put it on the stream yard where i could show you but i think i have a way to do that let's see because this this is just really cool all right now 375 000 that was close there we go check that out yep now what's that called the interesting thing um why where you look at all the information um not only did a star wars uh use that um if you also notice the han solo's gun is also based on another german gun fg-42 that's what it's called fg-42 so george lucas took a lot of a lot of um inspiration from like german guns yeah there we go fg-42 intended to be a weapon to replace all prior categories enough suppressive power to replace the machine gun agile enough to replace the submachine gun so there it is only uh only like 375 thousand dollars estimate not exactly the lightest though well i don't see how that would yeah well you know trial and error i guess yeah fortunately from writing i get to fire a lot of really rare guns what's the i mean have you already told us the story as far as the i mean was the gatling gun that you shot was that the coolest gun that you've ever gotten to shoot or or is there something more awesome than that uh the stg44 is always going to be my favorite the gatling gum is cool don't get me wrong the gatling gun was cold but you know you basically line it up and then you crank and it just fires you know you stick you slip the stick on top and you fire it so that i mean that was cool but i don't know it just doesn't feel as cool as actually handling the gun especially when you have someone lining it up on the target for you and everything yeah somebody just turn it the gun i really wanted to shoot was a mark 19 you know automatic grenade launcher which i i i've never i've never actually gotten to shoot one but a a friend of mine who was in the military was was he's like oh i can set that up like like i'm gonna call my commanding officer or whatever and i'll get you out there to shoot it so he had this thing all set up and and i was like yeah right and uh he's like no we're gonna do it and i was like well hell i want to shoot i want to shoot one of those fully automatic grenade launchers i'll be awesome and yeah it fell through yeah in the end i wasn't allowed to do it but other than that i think my favorite gun to shoot has been an m60 just belt fed m60 i mean it when you when you let loose uh one of my intro videos i have i have me just going through a belt the with m60 it it just i mean it it's just it's just awesome especially growing up in the generation of rambo yeah i think that that's been my favorite i've never shot an m60 i've shot at m249 and yeah and i've never shot one of those yeah i've i've shot a lot of guns with the one gun i want to shoot and a lot of people don't understand why is a gun called the liberator which was dropped over occupied france which was like a single shot gun um it's probably not the safest gun to shoot because chances are it's gonna blow up in your hand because they're not exactly the most well-built guns but i just think it would be cool to shoot one well i know what you're talking about i haven't shot one but i have seen one i've only seen one in my life but the same guy that had the the star wars fg42 also happened to have among other things a liberator and i don't know if it's also in in that auction but i did uh i did somewhere snap a picture of it i don't know whatever i did with it but but yeah those are those are those are pretty cool and and we may end up going back to those those eventually i mean if biden's able to actually end up confiscating our real firearms we'll be back to having to manufacture some sort of liberator out of out of sheet metal i think 3d printing is going to be the new the new way to go but yeah uh the liberators are really cool because uh just because the whole entire purpose of a liberator is you're supposed to find it take it go walk up to your nearest nazi shoot him and take his gun oh it's definitely an interesting gun let's see and and it's only i don't know i know it's only one shot i don't know if you can load more ammo into it or if it's just literally disposable like one shot one and done no they you would have extra rounds and like to handle but they dropped them by the thousands over france and not a lot survived because people thought they were junk so there's got to be there we go yeah that's it a little handle with a little pull down thing yeah i forgot i i'd held one that that's my grimy fingers right there holding one yeah but there are so many of them that were made uh yeah one shot 45. you gotta love it there's so many that were made but not many survived you can still pick them up for a few grand but not many people are firing them because they have a tendency to like pull off your hand you know another speaking of uh ammo that's expensive i got to see one time a there's a guy in pennsylvania that had all sorts of great world war one stuff and among the items that he had was a i forgot what the the actual name of it is but it's a tank viewer you know this and this german anti-tank bolt-action rifle yeah yeah huge like huge barrel huge caliber somewhere i have a picture of that that i took but they shot that thing they were telling me in order to do it they had to have the ammo custom made and so it was like some huge amount of money per round that they shot this thing but i mean obviously that that was worth doing they also had a german field gun that they they had ammo made for as well yeah i mean there's some um there there's some people who will custom produce ammunition uh you have to be worried you have to be wary not to run a foul of the uh atf because if there if it's over if it's over like 50 cal or whatever then you know they consider it a destructive device in fact chipman wants to mark 50 cal's destructive devices because he says you can shoot down helicopters with 50 cal guns but you can shoot down a helicopter with any type of gun really and the thing is he's he claimed that in waco they did shoot down two next texas national guard helicopters with barrett 50 cows which never happened well it's sort of like the federal judge the other day when i was arguing in the walker case that you know said well isn't there any any ar-15 basically selectable to be fully automatic isn't is it isn't you know shouldn't every ar-15 be viewed by law enforcement to be fully automatic i mean this is just when you have people not that we're supposed to have the judiciary legislating and not that you're supposed to have bureaucrats and presidents legislating but in the in the 2021 that we live in they do and some of these people have no idea what the hell they're talking about that is correct that is definitely correct they don't they don't and a lot of people don't understand firearms and most politicians don't understand firearms and speaking of courts misunderstanding let me let me uh share this real quick this is the decision from the ninth circuit in young versus hawaii that came out the other day and that just was really a awful decision these federal judges from the the liberal ninth circuit out in california really went through the history since heller says that you know we have to look to the history of what firearms were in common ownership at the time of the second amendment and that is gonna tell us whether or not the their second amendment protection they they really went through some bad history and they named like every english gun control all that they could find and i did a video on this back when it happened but they this is so easily disprovable that they they make the point that there was no pre-existing right to bear arms outside your house that you weren't there was no right to yeah maybe you could have one in your home because that's what scalia wrote in heller but we had no pre-existing right or natural right to to carry handguns concealed or out why we travel and that's just so wrong these are some of the things that i've highlighted from the decision where they say that you know common weapons uh you know uh you know people couldn't carry arms around them if they're uncommon or they they terrified other people that the public public carry was was not threatening only if done by wealthy people the desire for self-defense was not a good enough reason to go armed openly and that a man cannot excuse the wearing of such armor in public by alleging that somebody had threatened him and that for his safety he wants to carry a gun they go through all this really bad law you know early american colonists brought to the new world english sensibilities over the carrying of arms in public the colonists shared the english concern that the mere presence of firearms in the public square presented a danger to the community in new jersey acted first in 1686 the colony passed an act against the wearing of swords in in public and massachusetts bay then outlawed afraid writing and disturbing and breaching the peace then new hampshire then then of course virginia required people to wear arms publicly but they go through all this law this this false history that they say suggests that colonists brought with us this english acquiescence to firearm limitations that was outlawed outlined in the statute of northampton from like the 1300s in england i mean it's just complete malarkey complete bs and actually i mean there's i think in reality the english led the way in coming up with new ways of being better armed in public and having firearms that were more concealable and i have i mean so many of these 18th century guns just little flintlock pistols that were designed to be put in your pocket you know for instance i have one here like this is just a little one shot flintlock pistol you see how big my hands are i mean you could stick the thing in your pocket and that's what you did you had it in your pocket and if you had a problem you stuck it right in somebody's gut or chest and pulled the trigger it wasn't for hunting wasn't for anything else and these were widespread these were just your one shot that you had at self-defense to save your life and and i mean they're just they were widespread you could get them in any design that you wanted in fact many designs and this goes back early 18th century like 1720s and 30s you know they had i mean this was this was the style and they would even put these gargoyle faces on the butt cap and they had really elaborate designs and these were a lot of these were english made and then we started making them here and as history progressed we came up with just better and better ways at it being better armed when we're out on the road than in public we came out with like i've shown this before these pepper boxes again if you you know just make more barrels and that's how you know history firearms history progressed and how does the sixth or the ninth circuit explain that they can't because american history and even english history before that was about being armed when you're out on the road because you know life was dangerous there were all these highway men and all that so that's a battle i think we're gonna have to have to extend the second amendment outside the home because heller again heller only says that you have a right to have a handgun for self-defense inside the home and it implies or scalia implies that well it's not the issue isn't before us but you you're gonna have to have a right to to bear arms which in public you know outside your home but that issue wasn't yet before the court and now the ninth circuit is has gone against that and said that you know there is no right to bear arms you know when you're traveling somewhere or outside your house that's that's basically what it says but young versus state of hawaii i'm sure you read it but people should read this stuff to see kind of what what we're up against oh yeah and the other great case that came out that i also talked about was the case that the the goa the gun owners of america litigated and that was out of the sixth circuit uh the lump stock case the bump stock case yeah um i i assume that you had been following that case yeah uh one of my best friends was actually the guy who litigated it was that uh robert olson yeah rob rob is that like he's if not my best friend is one of my best friends well i'll tell you what he's he is a he's a fantastic lawyer i mean yeah that's one of the reasons i say if you want to donate to the cause if you want if you want to donate some money to this fight against in this big fight that we're facing now donate it to the gun owners of america because they i mean they are fighting this fight and they have people like rob olson that know what you're doing who's not in it for the money he's in it because he is a 100 true believer see let me bring up i have that decision up here as well yeah there it is so you know for example this is one of the great things that the goa does is fight these fights in the courts and you can see right here look at the look at the headline gun owners of america gunners of america versus merrick b garland and this is the bump stock case you know and as you might remember trump threw bump stocks under the bus under the bus and the goa fought for them and why did they fight for him because it's always a slippery slope i mean if you let him come after bump stocks like like trump was willing to do to sacrifice them to save the other rights well we know that the the leftists they want to completely disarm us as they're admitting now and confiscate our guns literally they're not going to stop with bump stocks if you allow them to take bump stocks they're going to continue on um but basically the this is a great opinion to read in the sixth circuit case it just came out a couple weeks ago and that's where the eight this is really this is the the fight right now because the atf part of the executive branch had been creating legislation essentially and that's what they did in this case is they said you know what as you have new technologies like these bump stocks we we're gonna we can change our mind we can just say well you know what we think they're machine guns and therefore um illegal for for citizens to own without jumping through certain hoops and that's what they did after you know a bunch of people had owned these things and it wasn't congress that said all right well we're gonna outlaw bump stocks no it was originally president trump who directed the executive branch to do something about bump stocks after that shooting during the country music concert and this is what they did they outlawed bump stocks just by you know changing their own interpretation of the definition do i have that about right yeah you have that exactly about right oh it's been nice talking to you but my uh son is a little bit sick i've been trying to send you a message yourself oh sorry i always i always tell john john and any other guests like look when you need to go i'll keep talking about this stuff for hours no no my son's just a little bit sick to to uh to his stomach well you you go for it john i i really appreciate having you on i probably should have utilized the time better rather than just bsing about guns but but don't come back again soon please and keep up the good work and and tell uh you know rob that you know we we're really really grateful for for everything that he's doing and if there's anything that the civil rights lawyer can do yeah just only i'm a phone call away yeah he knows who you are he watches you but i i try to get him on your show but he's like he's like i'm not good at interviews and i don't do anything oh please you're right yeah talk him into it yeah he kind of avoids all interviews he doesn't like being in the spotlight like rob you got to get out there man i don't think people have people seen your name on these cases he's like yeah but half the battle now is you know big tech and is not going to and especially not the media they're not going to let the real information get out there you know they're suppressing the truth the censoring the truth so yeah it's you know half the battle now is just really is uh you know informing the public yeah i'll i'll keep i'll come into it i'll keep on working on them all right john well i i appreciate it and thank you and thank you everyone out there for watching yeah com come back soon please oh yeah whenever whenever you need me man i'm back all right we'll definitely do it all right thank you all right all right well you know again thanks for for you know i'm glad that john came i always like like having him on and if you're just joining us you know john is uh part of the goa the gun owners of america and he's i think he runs the the the virginia part of it specifically and i had asked him the other day well you know who is is who's uh i mean they're sort of the up-and-coming really organization you know after the nras really dropped the ball and i said well who is you know who's who's running the west virginia i i need to talk to this person we have we have things to talk about here you know work to do in west virginia and i think that somebody they they've they've they're getting somebody in position in west virginia specifically and that that'll be great because west virginia is is going to be a great bastion of firearm rights that are that are you know dropping off the the the end of the world and other states that just aren't going to exist but we still have to protect west virginia and our other kind of second amendment sanctuaries from what the federal government is doing and i believe specifically here in west virginia we just had a great bill and thankfully we've had the west virginia citizens defense league just on the state level doing great work here in west virginia and they got their sort of a second amendment sanctuary bill passed through the west virginia legislature and it may be one of the only good things that the the west virginia legislature did this session you know as as my friend daniel horowitz says that you know what is it about gun rights you know it's it's it's it's like the only thing that these legislators will stand up for like yeah i'm you know defending your second amendment defending gun rights yet at the same time they've allowed our governor to rule our state as a dictator and to criminalize the breadth of our children and to restrict you know every other liberty that that possibly could exist but not gun rights you know because they they they stand up for the second amendment and the reason the reason is is because that's the one thing that we've done a good job at as far as grassroots is is lobbying for ourselves for our gun rights because they're you know we've seen especially in recent years how important that is and i think it's always been important in west virginia but look just just now we're starting up again with this summer of rioting and the the crazy thing that we saw last year was all these police departments standing down and taking a knee and all this stuff while these well these hooligans burn private businesses you know belonging to people of all colors and all ethnicities and so it was proven to us last year that we cannot depend on the police to protect us you know or we might be able to but who knows it's been proven several times just last year that really a 17 year old kid can come you know protect you but the police won't and then look what they do to the kid so then they'll protect the police if they do anything but they won't protect private citizens who are forced to take the law into their own hands per se um jay dunbar thanks for the uh the super chat there and i appreciate you guys you guys watching no fourth amendment left and i don't know if i said this but one of the great things about the goa the gun owners of america is that they recognize that the fourth amendment is so important to gun rights i call it sort of like a white knight to the second amendment because as of now of all the supreme court jurisprudence that we have from the beginning to the end all the supreme court has been willing to give to us peasants is just a handgun in the home they haven't given us an ar-15 in the home they haven't given us a handgun outside the home they've given us almost no second amendment rights yet they've just implied that they will someday or they might in reality most of the actual gun rights that we have are just more general fourth amendment rights you know the the right to not have the the the police stop us and disarm us and run a background check to see if we have sufficient papers to be able to possess a firearm you know the u.s versus black from 2013 that sort of thing you know what rights do you have when the the the police pull you over in your car or or you're open carrying as a bystander these are all fourth amendment cases that are very important indirectly to gun rights you know they they they also protect you know whatever lawful behavior you're engaging in but the goa has recognized that and they've helped to litigate this or they have litigated those cases and helped to litigate those cases and i think they they well i know they filed an amicus brief and that the case that was recently argued before the supreme court on whether or not there should be a so-called community caretaking exception to where police can enter your house without a warrant and that's really scary and if you haven't listened to supreme court arguments before you know they say never meet your heroes well go listen to really any judicial case on gun rights but listen to the supreme court arguments which you can find online i've i've posted them on the website before and listen to the questions that the the justices are asking the lawyers in that in that case what is that called uh coniglieri or something like that it was just recently argued and it's like oh man this doesn't sound good this doesn't i mean it doesn't sound like the supreme court is going to stop the police from coming in our house without a warrant based on the so-called community caretaking exception which had never existed before if you listen to the the concerns of the justices they're like well what if there's an elderly person inside that's fallen you know shouldn't they be allowed to go inside and they're just completely missing the point and so it i don't know it all goes back to we shouldn't have to depend on the supreme court because that our founders designed our constitution in such a way as to protect us from tyrants separation of powers so that no one person or small group of people can get enough power to act as a tyrant because they will they always will and then also giving the states these federalist principles that also separates power in a different way and keeps like west virginia a sovereign state with the general plenary powers and police powers that the feds cannot cannot take away from us and that's exactly what's happening right now with joe biden issuing these executive orders that there's not even support for in congress and mind you that is held by the democrats pretty much in both houses and there's not even the political capital there to pass this gun control that he wants so instead he's going to do it by executive order using the atf now fortunately fortunately going back to that case we just looked at that sixth circuit case that the goa got for us that is exactly what they were fighting against fighting against agencies these nameless faceless bureaucracies in the bowels of washington dc being able to declare certain things or accessories unlawful no the constitution says in article one paragraph one sentence one word one that all legislative power resides in congress therefore no legislative power resides in the president or any part of the executive branch they just enforce the laws that congress pass and we've gotten that backwards so now the atf gets to do its own thing when the president tells them to and yet who are we to complain to talk about no taxation without representation we don't have representation for anything anymore it's just the executive branch with some nameless person that we've never elected we don't know who they are creating new laws absolutely creating new laws and now we're getting even more even more conditioned to it in the age of i don't even know if i should say it because they'll probably flag the video now if they had well if they hadn't flagged it already i mean hell we had pictures of nazi machine guns already but you know the covid restrictions the covid fascism were being conditioned to the rule of of an executive branch for instance in in in west virginia you know we're told that all right even using the principles of federalism that states have general police powers and that therefore governors have these just broad emergency powers and so yet i ask well where does that come from where does that come from we have a state constitution and it says nothing about emergency powers the contrary it says this state constitution will never be suspended not it it remains in effect the like in a time of peace or a time of war mentions nothing about being suspended under any circumstances it mentions nothing about emergency powers or pandemics or anything like that the only authorization our governor i'm not speaking for other states but i think they're pretty much the same the only authorization they have is not some broad police power it is a statute enacted by your your state legislature called the emergency power statute and so the governor can only exercise the powers that the emergency power statute says that they can exercise however no legislature whether on a state level or in regards to congress can delegate its core powers away congress because congress wants to they can't delegate any legislative power to a president that would violate the constitution that's what the supreme court supposed to be doing it's striking stuff like that down the state legislature with separation of powers and their constitutions such as west virginia can delegate their legislative power and there was actually a case here in west virginia for the west virginia supreme court struck down a a program or a statute that the west virginia legislature voluntarily passed that gave like the board of pharmacy the ability to create new criminal misdemeanors having to do with prescription drugs and this the west virginia supreme court said no no no no no even if our idiot legislation legislature wants to give their powers away to the executive branch they're not allowed to do it that violates the state constitution that has expressed separation of powers so we need to get back to on the state level and the federal level just following the basic rules that we were given by our founders our state founders and our federal founders and it's the inherent structure there that keeps power from amassing in in the one individual or group of individuals but we've ignored that and and that's what we have now is joe biden going after whatever the cause celeb is for the gun control advocates whether it's bump stocks or whether it's pistol braces or binary triggers and the one thing you can be sure of if they're allowed to do it whatever they're going after today whether binary triggers or whatever it's going to be something else tomorrow they're never going to stop they're never going to stop um just here for the banjo yeah i i i probably i i heard that robert george the constitutional law guru and law professor that i was talking about on monday did a live video today somebody emailed me and that he was playing the banjo so i think that is a sign i think that is a sign that that we must have something in common laziest no amendment is absolute shall not be infringed seems pretty absolute to me the bible administration is tyrannical now it's true that no amendment is you know there forever necessarily in the context that well amendments can be changed we could have a convention of states we could strike down amendments we could change amendments so yeah without following the process they're pretty they're they are absolute there's no other way of getting rid of them without following the process you can't have a supreme court say that oh the second amendment violates the constitution because it is the constitution the only way of changing the constitution and this is a great point the only way the only constitutional way of changing the constitution for instance getting rid of the second amendment for those who are against the second amendment is to follow the process that our founders gave us i think it is article 5 of the constitution of calling a convention of the states and revoking rescinding whatever you call it the second amendment or changing it in some way that's how it's done that's the process and and all of our states are supposed to be involved because that was the deal when we agreed to to join the union but now they're trying to do it through other means either through the supreme court or through congress or through the executive branch all of those would be constitutional unconstitutional but they can't even get it through congress and they haven't they haven't been able to get it through through the supreme court it's heading slowly slowly in the other direction so they've they've taken the only thing that they have where they can attack the second amendment and try to do it through executive orders and through the the atf and really it just looks like persecution they're persecuting their political enemies they're trying to disarm their their political enemies say gunny not even desantis would stop local governments from enacting mask rules let alone anything else everyone passes the buck to disguise broken promises and isn't that the same reason that trump was not able to get any traction in the courts following what was obviously a very very problematic election regardless of what side you're on there were all sorts of issues not the least of which was separation of powers or lack thereof where you had secretaries of state and executive branches changing what it was only the province of the legislatures of changing and that is the election loss but because it was coveted in a state of emergency then it just had to be done and how many months after the state of emergency was that that these election laws were changed and how many months are we now afterwards 13 months or so how can you have a state of emergency by definition that lasts 13 months even through a legislative session it absolutely is is the very definition of tyranny it's what our founders warned against letting one man or one small group of men or women amass this power they as our founders warned us they will always become tyrants uh mobile mechanics i don't think morrissey knew we had a constitution until biden started talking about guns he's talking about our our attorney general in west virginia well you know he just demonstrates or illustrates rather the problem with any of our politicians you know they want to be strong on the second amendment and that's great they should be but how i don't understand it how can you be strong on the second amendment but not strong on every other amendment or the constitution itself i mean the second amendment is is an amendment article one of the constitution is article one of the constitution and it says all legislative power is in congress alone well i mean why would you support the second amendment but you support the executive branch at any level issuing legislation all it says to me is that they they're telling they're picking an issue that they know is popular with the people and easy to defend but yet they're avoiding the the very tough job and the real responsibility that is on their shoulders of of protecting our our way of life or our our government itself they've just they've thrown the entire document into the lake what can the west virginia governor not do now not just this governor but any other governor unless he stopped what can he not do to us what can he do that we could say no he can't do that till only the legislature can do that nothing he can do anything he wants anywhere he wants in the state at any time he wants and there's nothing anybody is going to do about it because we've set a precedent we've allowed it to happen bootlicker sometimes i wish i didn't know all this should have taken the blue pill and stayed in the matrix well you know that we can look back to history i i think there there were a lot of people that it was easier for them to just keep their mouth shut when you look at europe 1930s it was not just easier but life-saving probably to just keep your mouth shut and watch what was going on and you know after a certain point there's there's no stopping it without risking your life and the lives of your families and look at where we are now in just 13 months time where will we be in another 13 months where could we be depending just on the mere whim of some of the ruling class some of the governors metal mocha that's a pretty sweet name constitution only has meaning if we the people back it may require sacrifice and many people just fold abby's daddy they keep adding to the paper if you love the paper love it all and as i said on monday you know the soviet union on paper had a wonderful constitution that sounded great it had all sorts of rights but it was just paper it meant nothing because in practice it you know they didn't follow it it wasn't enforceable it was a joke and we're we're pretty quickly heading to that we need to talk about sandy hook documentary not on google gunny look how the officer won't be charged with the murder of ashley babbitt yeah ashley babbitt was the female um trump supporter that was in the capital that was shot to death really the only casualty the violence of the so-called insurrection was an unarmed middle-aged blonde woman i don't remember if she if she was uh if she had any kids but she was married i mean obviously i mean it it it's it's disgraceful and she's been ignored and you know whether or not she she deserves some form form of punishment for what she did do you know anyone who no one could say honestly that she deserved what happened to her so the same people that are calling for the heads of any police officer that shoots shoots any black person in this country are the same people that support the murder of ashley babin so you can't you can't say that you you you want freedom for some people and not for some other group of people i mean that that is guaranteeing that there's freedom for no group of people a constitution can only end in despotism when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government being incapable of the other and that is sort of what i had talked about on monday that professor or dr george had said is that you know our founding fathers at the very beginning they chose a republic and that was a difficult choice because up to that point in history the history of republics was was not a good one you know all of the republics really that had been tried had failed disastrously you know they'd ended up in a really really despotic you know tyrannies dictatorships basically it was much more stable to go with some sort of monarchy like england and france had and george washington would have been an ideal candidate for that and there was there was real uh that a lot of people were were wanting to go that route but our our founders decided to try this experiment and the whole the the whole structure of our government was to make the experiment less likely to fail by just spreading the power out very loosely with separation of powers between the branches and and the principles of federalism with all the states and we've completely allowed that to to just go away i saw multiple videos the ashley babbitt shooting shooting was justified anyone in the same position as the officer would have done the same thing i mean i don't think that i don't think that any shooting i mean you'd you'd be hard-pressed to prove to me that shooting any unarmed person was justified you know up until that point i mean you had people armed with with flags and signs that came in there so the the only justification for shooting her would have been would have been the preservation of property there was nobody's life that was in jeopardy from ashley babbitt maybe property so you know they were destroying property i don't know what she specifically did or did not do but that was a shooting to protect property now us peasants are not allowed to do that except in texas under some circumstances from my understanding at night you know we're not allowed to if we see a guy breaking into our car here in west virginia in the middle of the night we're not allowed to stick our ar out the window and shoot the person the electric company is not allowed to leave a electric line that's in disuse electrified for the sole purpose of electrocuting a a robber that is a basic principle of of our law and pretty much every state in the country that you can't use deadly force to protect property and that is pretty much in my opinion what happened with ashley babbitt so if you could prove to me that somebody's life was in danger either the shooter or some other person then yeah i can see some circumstance where you have a mob of people coming after you say kyle rittenhouse say you have a mob of people coming at you and it's reasonable belief to you that they are going to kill you or seriously injure you based on what you have observed or seen them do to other people uh i can see that happening i don't equate what happened to ashley babbitt is that sort of situation you know it was more of i mean it just wasn't they they they hadn't from what anything i've seen really attacked anybody inside the capitol it was all destruction of property or just people who had walked in now if they were trying to force their way into the senate chamber which i believe is maybe where that took place you know all they had to do was just leave the senate chamber and there are other ways of of you know remedying that situation i i don't it's it's it's a tough it's a tough situation definitely is but we would be judged by the standards of whether there was a reasonable apprehension of death or great bodily injury when we pulled the trigger this guy you know i don't know what he said i haven't seen the words of what the shooter said but i i can't imagine it how about you keep your hands out where we can see them and get out of the car while you're strapped in with a seat belt which one you want to try yeah i did that video already um i've argued with quite a few cops on on the internet about that one as well lion watched documentaries about tyranny philosophies of noam chomsky his conformity and collectivism is sickening all right here's your argument the officer had no way of knowing that she was unarmed because she was wearing a loose hoodie well it was that reasonable under the circumstances to think that that she may have been armed you know she's wearing a loose hoodie okay so under the same analysis that police officers are judged and that citizens are judged it has to be reasonable so the analysis they have for police officers are the grand factors so the severity of the crime that the person is suspected to have committed before i.e the dangerousness what do they know about the person the only thing i believe he would have known about ashley babbitt is that she was one of the protesters who came into the capital and and he would have believed that she entered unlawfully other than that specifically i don't it was he able to say that he saw her committing any violence if he was then then maybe maybe it would be reasonable for him to assume that she might she might be armed in her loose hoodie um also the the standards that we we judge police officers with the grand factors all right severity of crime that's the dangerousness factor we have uh the one i always forget whether they're actively evading or resisting arrest that doesn't really apply to that sort of a situation so was she under arrest and actively resisting um being arrested i think she was on the other side of the door right so there was no arrest in progress maybe he would say that that she was disobeying orders to to stop or to to turn around something like that and uh it really comes down to the last factor which i think was the important factor in the other video um jim that you're talking about the norfolk one from the other day and that comes down to whether there was an immediate threat of somebody's physical safety that's what it's going to come down to it's what it should come down to was there a reasonable belief that the officer who was the shooter or somebody else was an immediate threat physical safety and that was sufficient to justify the application of deadly force and for the reasons already said i don't think so i mean they they uh they you know it's not their house it's not like they have a castle doctrine or stand your ground law i mean they could have just left that room you know did they have somebody in that room that they believed their life was in danger they couldn't just leave like they did in the house chamber like pelosi did or whatever they did with with the vice president no no they i mean they drew a line on the sand i think and they shot somebody to death to stop them from coming in that house or the uh that chamber so i don't think that that would you know if if that if those are the facts that you have with a police officer shooting in any blue state in the country or any blue city in the country i think we'd have riots and politicians virtue signaling but because it was a trump supporter and the capital it's a different standard janet hello fred johnson when issues of unconstitutionality are not challenged for long enough it is though consent to proceed in that manner as expressly implied and fred do you know what what precedent they've relied on for all of this this covid fascism you know what it is it's it's the jacobsen case from the early 1900s vaccine case that's what they relied on there was really no there was no precedent for it isn't that scary that that's what they used to really just boom to take all this power and then take the freedom away from people and once it's gone it's gone and now they have all sorts of other precedents of that in turn relied on jacobson and the funny thing is is that i read a 2008 study that was co-authored by my favorite doctor dr fauci where he discusses the pandemic of spanish flu in 1918 and then the one that happened in like the the 40s and 60s 1968 i think it was and they're planning for how to deal with the next pandemic in the united could be done in states and do you know what was not mentioned a single time in that article again for 2008 they didn't mention masks at all wasn't even mentioned to the contrary they they mentioned that they had dug up these soldiers that were killed in the spanish flu and they ran some tests on them and they realized that they didn't actually die from the virus they died from secondary bacterial infection now we know that the spanish flu is really the only pandemic from the 20th century where masks were in widespread use now they didn't state that you're not allowed to even ask the question now but did the fact that they were making these homemade masks that were probably as dirty as our max masks are now did that have something to do with the the bacterial infect infections developing in people's throats and going into their lungs which was which was killing them i don't know you know hopefully we don't find out one day that a lot of the covid deaths were due to bacterial infection caused by forcing people to wear these dirty masks they got off the floor of their car or off their their rear view mirror you know and and unlike the the spanish flu you know we were conditioned and forced to wear them but you know that's not that's not really what this video is about um bible prophecy news thanks for thanks for joining if randy weaver would have just complied then his family would still be alive today karen's so true many are learning now not all gone still written senator mike lee is trying to save our hearing by loosening suppressor transfer red tape absolutely the the funny thing is getting back on the gun rights subject is there are places in europe where like you can go into a store and just buy a suppressor whereas in the united states it's this big deal and the fact is is that it you know it yeah it's like a safety device it it it could save people's hearing i mean how many people have tinnitus due to fire you know being in the military or just firing a lot of firearms and i have just ringing in my ears constantly suppressors could have fixed that back to ashley babbitt many people stopped trying to break in after the cop issued orders the cop couldn't see them because of his cover he could only see her and she decided to start climbing in so he shot her well if that was his explanation then you know i think he he proved the the the case against him that he acted unreasonably you know one of the one of the rules that everybody knows that they're they're taught from the time of of childhood around firearms is that you don't you don't fire at what you can't see and not only do you have to know what your target is that you're shooting at you got to know what's behind your target every kid that's taken hunting has taught this lesson you don't shoot at a noise in in the bush that you think might be a deer and so it sounds like this guy was shooting at a deer bush and he didn't even know what was behind his deer bush and there have been cops who have done this before and i have a video out there you can watch of a police officer shooting my client through his front door and it you know the fact is is it's pretty tough to claim that somebody is a a threat an immediate threat when you can't see them when you can't see them now if he had some indication that that somebody had a firearm and they were shooting through i mean that's different if they're shooting at you through the wall or the window that's different but nobody was shooting nobody was shooting i don't know of even any guns that were involved in that whatsoever so i mean i think that's i think that's a tough road to hoe and it's just the fact that it was an insurrectionist trump supporter that was killed and that it happened in the capitol that is what is is getting him out of trouble all right read back what what you said let me see well i think i read what you said said she was breaking down the door with about six other people she helped smash the window all right i missed this one she helped smash the window the cop had his gun out was barking orders but was in cover many people stopped trying to break in after the cop issued orders and i'm not excusing her breaking the window if that's what she did you know we have a punishment on the books for breaking windows in the capitol okay she could have been arrested and prosecuted but the fact is is she was executed on site and she wasn't a threat to anybody's in life at all i mean she just wasn't and i mean without without some sort of safety threat to this officer or somebody else that's substantial that's just not that's just not a good shoot in my opinion and so the people that are arguing that that was a good shoot do you think that they are supportive of joe biden's executive orders to try to enable gun confiscation from our homes to try to disarm us do you think that they celebrate that this off this officer had you know a second amendment right a natural right of self-defense the fact that the fact that he was armed no i i don't think so tabby's daddy just ask the native americans what they think about paper well you know the the weird thing is you think that that would be a great example of what happens when a government disarms their people but some of the native americans that i know are like some of the most left-wing progressive gun grabbers that you've ever met why i don't know it's the same it's the same thing with you know how many how many jewish americans are die-hard you know left-wing progressives you would think that the the lessons of history have taught them the importance of of the self uh second amendment and and the right of self-defense and and the importance of freedom but for some reason you you i mean you're overwhelmingly uh democrat or or progressive i i don't know why it the only explanation is you know a guy that i used to listen on the radio when i lived in north carolina what was his name michael savage what is it that he used to say don't don't try to understand it because the only this is the answer liberalism is a mental disorder that's it that's the only explanation for it um appreciate you guys watching it's about that time several people have asked for for uh banjo i guess i could get the banjo going as i as i bring this thing to a close and yeah i appreciate you coming this good discussion i always like discussing gun stuff and i wish in hindsight that i had used our time more wisely with john crump and gotten into more of a strategy of what the goa is doing but he'll be back again soon i hope and you know it would be great if he'd bring rob olson with him because that guy is that guy's fantastic lawyer and he is a re one of the reasons why if you're going to donate to the gun rights fight you know don't send your money to the nra and there's probably other good groups out there but the goa i mean they are on the front lines and proof is in the pudding look at that six six circuit bump stock case that has the language that not only defeats the atf with bump stocks but it defeats them also with everything biden is asking them to do to go around congress to try to outlaw certain things that congress hasn't outlawed i can't play a whole lot anymore because of my my arthritis until my hands get warmed up enough but probably play uh [ __ ] creek [Music] [Music] so [Music] [Music] [Music] i oh [Music] all right wasn't that bad i guess so that's about it it's a 8 39 here on wednesday and appreciate you guys here uh talking with me and and uh you know stay tuned i've got a big case getting ready to file and i think i'll well i anticipate doing a video on this and again like i said on monday no one's heard about this case and it has well i'll just leave it at that so make sure you're subscribed to see you know the new video that's going to be coming out it won't be a live video i don't think but until then thanks for hanging out and uh i'll see you live again um if the creeks don't rise on monday you