It depicts Mr. Trump performing, you know, fellatio. Mr. Trump performing performing fellatio. Trump Trump fellatio. Hi. How you doing? Probably know why we're here to discuss. Yeah. Uh the banners, that's your constitutional right. You can post up anything you want. However, we're here to talk to you about displaying obscene material and what is determined as obscene. Okay? Yeah. I got my phone here. I'll be glad to pull up the narratives. Okay? You got to understand title 2 C's written by attorneys, okay? The state of New Jersey, the attorney general, and everything like that. All right? It depicts Mr. Trump performing, you know, fellatio. It does not. Huh? It does not. You got somebody's head in your lap, it can be portrayed any other way. He's standing in front of fully clothed. Okay. But with his head right between his crotch, that can be portrayed differently. Couldn't be. Could be. So, we're in agreement. You might not think it's obscene. He may think it's obscene. Mhm. Okay? Anybody can think it's obscene. But we do know and we can both agree upon what normally somebody's head between person's legs could portray. I didn't see the sign. Well, let me ask I thought about that. Let me ask you this question. I thought about that. If that was a woman sitting there with her legs open, okay? And somebody's head was between her legs, how would you portray that? If it was a head between the legs Yeah. Go ahead. Of a naked man? Not of a fully clothed man but in a suit. Sir, I would portray We can sit here and I can give you We can talk about this and I would love to sit here on the porch with you and have beers and talk about it and say hey this is what it can be. It doesn't necessarily have to be fully nude. Okay? Cuz we both know you don't have to fully disrobe. Well, let's take a further look at it. So, 2 years ago during that period Yeah, they were they were I know we That's your That's your taste. Okay? However It's not actually my taste. However That's not really considered a view it's a viewpoint. It's not really considered obscene. Yeah, that's the focus is just specifically this picture. People can be offended. They can be offended all they want. That's your freedom of speech if you're putting your posters up. However, if it's obscene Yes. that's where we step in. Okay. Okay? Now, taking a look at this gentleman obviously sitting in a chair. Okay? Okay? I can imagine He's not nude. He's not nude. Can I talk? Can I talk? I'll tell you what I will do. Can I Can I just talk? but I'll tell you what I will do. Okay, I'll listen to you. Cuz I'll cover his head. Go ahead. I will cover a piece of paper over his Let me take this phone. I will cover a piece of paper over his head. We appreciate freedom of speech and I I In fact, I live in town and I crack up half the time I pass your sign. You know what I mean? What do you know I do it primarily cuz it's fun. Of course, yeah. I I I see them on If I was political you know, you'd know me much more, but I'm I'm kind of a recluse and ride my bicycle most of the time. And I I appreciate that type person. I really do. Yeah, the only like people bring it to our attention and then we get jammed up for not going about it and and like technically it wasn't almost nothing offends me, but you know, you just People come by People will sit there and they'll be like it affects kids, or this, or that." And yeah. They throw eggs at the house. They scream at me. So, that's the thing. When they start throwing eggs at our house, we have to, you know, take a closer look. And only because of kind of clear-cut inference is the I mean, you know, It was a good one. It it Yeah, it's a joke. You know what I mean? It's a joke. It's just unfortunate it just has something on it that like people complain about. No, it it it it's humorous. Don't get me wrong. On the other side right now are the um conservatives shooting out pictures saying uh Bill Clinton is the isn't the first one that had his whistle blown. Right. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, so I mean, there there's both sides coming at it. For sure. For sure. This one This one just For sure. This one struck Yes. But But the intention, as you know, I no longer really pick on Donald. I pick on the Republican mentality Right. of of of of not paying attention to the environment. Not paying attention to the children. Not not paying attention. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because because they have gone wrong. As far as I'm concerned, they have gone wrong. I am a Republican. All right? I am a Republican. They've gone wrong. I knew Donald Trump. Did you? Yes. Jeez. I was in the furniture business in Manhattan before I retired. Oh, okay. That makes sense. at the very highest end of the furniture. The highest of the end. What uh what furniture company was that? Kind of custom. Okay. All right? They didn't buy regular Do you still work in New York anymore? You work I retired. Good for you. All right. Beautiful place to retire. Yes. I apologize. What um I'm sorry. Continue. I'm sorry. When he bought the Hotel, Ivanka wanted furniture for her office in there. They He ran me ragged for 6 months and probably spent $50,000 just getting things for her. He had the affair with Marla Maples, told Ivanka, "Fuck you." and bought her used furniture and I lost a fortune. And I tried to get some of my money back which they were supposed to pay and you know he just wiped my ass on the floor. So, I could see the frustration, for sure. But he shouldn't have been president. Real quick. I'm Sergeant Townsend, by the way. I'm David Sanders. David Sanders. Nice to meet you. This is Officer Fiorentino. Apologize. Okay, that was my lieutenant on the phone. He's been on the phone with the prosecutor. Okay? Uh we have sent the prosecutor photographs. Okay? Oh, I'm sure they've got it many places. They do. They do do the Okay? What we are going to do is we are going to photograph. We're going to take photographs. An investigation will be conducted. Okay? No charges are going to be filed at this time. All right? However, All right. However, we do ask you take it down. Well, hold on. I'm listening. If you are going to follow with the prosecutors, there's no benefit. Sir, sir, sir, sir, sir, sir. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Please. Listen to me. Listen. This is a fourth-degree charge. Felony or misdemeanor? It's a felony. Okay. Okay, we don't have what they call felonies and misdemeanors. What we have are called indictable and non-indictable crimes. This is an indictable crime. Fourth degree. Mhm. It's not persons and it's not a petty disorderly which is a non-indictable. Mhm. Okay? This is a fourth degree charge for displaying obscene material. Mhm. a major thoroughfare in the school bus Mhm. You have a lot of people coming down the street. You have people that I just saw kids driving by on their bicycles Mhm. on this street. You are displaying it, okay? You may not think that is obscene. Mhm. Okay? However, as per the law, this is obscene. I will be glad Well, you've already told told me that it's deemed a fourth degree. Yes. And that you were going to go ahead with prosecution. If If you don't take it down, we will take it down. That's from the lieutenant. Oh, then then we get lawyers? Mr. Stahler, I'm not trying to make this difficult. No, no, but No, no, no, no, no. Can you compromise? Can you work with us? I tried to compromise. Because listen, listen, I mean All the other signs All the other signs that have stayed up, we have done nothing because they weren't obscene. Mhm. Okay? Mhm. And if anybody were to come by here and carve this up, we would take a report for vandalism for you. Mhm. Mhm. Sir, okay? All we're asking for you is with this community and with the police department, can you cooperate? Can you take one one out of the What do you think you're up to? 50? Right now? How many signs have we posted? Can you take one down for us, Mhm. sir? Okay? Can you take one Do you understand Do you understand where the logjam is here? What is it? You told me that you've given it to the prosecutors and they are going to go ahead, investigate, and potentially We and potentially charge you. We are going to conduct an investigation. Yes. This report will go to the detective bureau. Yes. The photographs will go to the detective bureau. Yes. Then we run it to the prosecutor and explain to them that Yes. Okay? Yes. Okay? Just stand to my left, please. Yes. Yes. Yes. What are we discussing? Do you want to be prosecuted? No. I would like you to tell me if I take it down, everything is dead. Yes. I'm just going to get it on record. It's recorded here, sir. Everything is dead. You are not going to I want you to take I am going to be prosecuted. I am not going to Listen. An investigation report doesn't mean we're going to investigate you and we're going to come in here in the middle of the night and take you. An investigation report means we are documenting this incident. This is going on file. If you put up another poster Mhm. portraying portraying anything obscene Mhm. it's going to show a a pattern. We've already warned you the first time. Okay. No, no, no. I don't do absolutely Okay. Then if we do something a second time Then if we do something a second time Yes. Okay? Yes. Then it's it's full fledged. We warned you. Oh, yeah, yeah. Don't worry. Mr. Sam would you please take it down? Are you telling me you are guaranteeing me that this is dead? I gave you my word that it's dead and it will not It'll be dead in the water. If this comes down, listen. Listen. I like to be independent, okay? And sometimes I do vote for the lesser of two evils, okay? Do I support him a little? Yes, I do. Do I get in politics? I do, too. Listen. There's some things I think he's not good at. this this could be two random people. You know what I mean? It it has to be It's not even a political I don't want to get involved in I hate it, okay? All I want All right. All I You gave me You gave You gave me But I can't. Not the public. You're You're making me You're making me take my vest. My My six Some good content. This is I mean, this this You can't tell me you've gotten more likes with this one than any other one on Overheard in Asbury Well, it's not It's It's It's I'll tell you, it's not the likes. It's the fact that it drags the ones out of the woodwork that are crazy. But that Listen. I hate to say it, but sometimes my mind is in the gutter. Anything I've seen is funny and hilarious. So, you're telling me So, I'm not going to So, I'm going to take it down and and basically we're dead. If you cooperate and just, you know, It's not Not cuz we're offended. It's other people. a picture with you two and me and the banner? Oh, I can't. So that I can explain So that I can Even Even So that I can explain to everybody why it came down. Unfortunately, I can't. You can turn your You can turn your back. Hey, hold on. But if we have a picture and then that picture gets circulated and any other way that it gets distorted and it gets distorted in any other way as police officers, so Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Okay? Next Next thing. Again, the perception Let me just Let me just tell you this because this has For the For the year and a half that I stopped doing it, all right? You know I have an adopted black son. You know that. I've not met him, I don't believe. I I adopted a Southwest kid. How old is he? He's He's old enough now He graduated from college, criminal justice, and he wants to become an Asbury Park That's awesome. How old is he? He's 33 right now. Okay. I adopted him over He's got to get on this test coming up right now. He's got the test coming up right now. So, he's got another test coming up. the state police and he didn't pass the test and he aged out. Okay. All right. Yeah, 35 I think is the He is meant to be a cop. Okay. All right? We don't agree on this, but but is this going to affect him? No. Oh, okay. That's all I wanted to know. This is This is This is a much simpler than a No. What this is is just a documented incident that we have advised you. Um Here's the thing. Can I take a selfie with you in the background? No. Here's the thing. If the mother came out Oh, we're done. It's coming down. Well, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. If the mother came out and called and complained and she said this is a police matter, then we would have to write a citation for it. If she carried it further, then something can be carried further. Right now, this is just a puff. We're beating it to the No offense. Well, you have You have to. For a lot For a lot of reasons, there's a lot of powerful Republicans in this city and a powerful Republican Yeah. You got me cleaning up down here now. I always do. I've I've This has been bothering me. The The city takes care of my corner tremendously well. Oh, no. I know. It's just the Okay. Here we are with the Will you wait here and see what I'm putting on that. So, this is where they all go. Just that in there. Zito? The Zito? My brother found a dog similar to that one in the alleyway. This is a long time Did he follow the car? Yeah, I had my clown there. What happened to the clown? Oh, it rained. WHAT HAPPENED? OH, YOU WANT US TO COME IN? IS HE FRIENDLY? LOOK AT YOU. HI. Hey doggy. This is beautiful in here. Yeah, it is nice. It's not a lot lot, but lately just because of that there is a lot of turnover. And and in this town so much action that um that like when people get their retirement date a lot of times they actually retire as opposed to if they were in some other town where they're not doing a whole lot, maybe next door.