that's the last time we've ever seen a
chocolate lab is when it was in our yard
and it ran off with a chicken okay we
didn't do anything to it we didn't hurt
it
we literally did what you're supposed to
do and called animal control okay
but he's convinced that we do we filed a
report with
a swing shift rpd officer on thursday
okay
i think it's them over there it was you
wasn't it that we made the report which
on thursday no
well there's another guy that similar
build in size and look on thursday's
swing shift we made a report too
so
i would appreciate it if you would talk
to my wife get her side of the story
he came in asking if
he could talk to me about his dog
i was working on a gun so i came out
saw that it was him my wife immediately
she's freaking out she goes it's him you
need to get him out of here now he's
already been aggressive yeah
so
i sent her behind the counter
and
i told him that he was trespassing and
needed to leave he wouldn't leave okay i
told him he was trespassing again he
said oh no you know it's fine we'll
leave and just stood at the door getting
all aggressive and crazy
but i'm not
i'm not at home i'm in a business i have
to be professional okay so it's not like
i can just tackle him
do anything stupid say anything stupid
shoot him because
i'm here and this is a business i have
to be professional
he thinks that i stole his dog and i
somehow kidnapped his dog
we don't even know what the [ __ ] this
guy is dude he just showed up a few days
ago okay
and he apparently lives in our
neighborhood because he says he's seen
us before and he the first time he went
in was claiming you know the first time
he showed up at our house and cornered
my wife
oh so he's saying that you guys stole
the dog at the house yeah okay what the
[ __ ] would i steal a dog for is your
wife inside yeah she is i specifically
asked for you a suit to talk to her okay
i'll go talk to her
you doing okay
what's going on i'm not walking you into
the deceptive i don't need the public
coming in during this okay
what's going on
uh this guy showed up at my house a
couple days ago okay um
very rude very belligerent very common
behind in your face
yelling and screaming and carrying on
about his dog
we found a police report the other night
because he showed up at my front door
it was like 5 30 p.m okay and he wanted
to talk to my husband about his dog
he showed up a couple minutes ago i
immediately called 9-1-1 and we had
customers in here and he was yelling and
screaming and carrying on he was totally
the premise is no less than three times
okay you are trespassing like our
property you're trespassing with our
property you need to leave now and it's
oh well we're recording you're gonna
hear from my lawyer and he would not
leave the premises okay even though he
was repeatedly told too
and this is the second incident in two
days and he is
he scares me yeah i'm
not the type he could easily shift out
but this is the second time in two days
he's showed up and been this way okay
i i don't want you do you have any clue
on what the heck he's talking about
he's he's claiming that his dog is lost
and it's gps tracking caller showed him
in our house okay we live in a huge
subdivision right are you guys familiar
with camelot
my thought on this
we have called animal control rodoso
animal control
between three and five times you guys
check the call log to
get the number but
we've specifically called because we
have these stray dogs runaway dogs
killed almost all of our chickens okay
so animal control has come out a handful
of times
the last time they came out
it was a chocolate lab okay
and the animal control guy
the officer that came thursday said he
was going to look into it further in the
reports animal control filed a report
then filed charges
on the owner okay
so was it this guy
we don't know okay we've never we have
no idea if it's even him but a chocolate
lab in the same neighborhood i'm gonna
put two and two together it might be is
that what he's saying it's a chocolate
lab yeah okay
so
his dog is out loss meandering whatever
this dog is doing
he claims that he saw me
driving in my neighborhood that's
exactly where i should be driving i
lived there
animal control when they filed charges
it was a uh like a classy misdemeanor
like some small ticket
and this person was gonna have to go to
municipal court and pay this fine
and we were like whatever like
i mean i don't care just i need
documentation that this dog is killing
my chickens
so that we could try to get retribution
payment whatever
and ends up that isn't going to happen
not new mexico okay
we were basically told that
the chickens
getting killed wasn't worth
any type of
you know someone filing a fine or
complaint so
it was essentially
whatever animal control was willing to
do is all that was going to happen so we
just kept calling animal control
cool and that's what they're there for
that's their job
no big deal
so the animal control guy
said that he made a report
hopefully you can find it
but he said hey you know i know where
the dog lives it's fine
if i find it i'll be taking it to the
pound they can pay the fee to pick up
the pound okay cool that's the last time
we've ever seen a chocolate lab is when
it was in our yard and it ran off with a
chicken okay we didn't do anything to it
we didn't hurt it
we literally did what you're supposed to
do and called animal control okay this
was a long time
six or eight months ago yeah oh okay
this was not like this is like in the
springtime okay
so now this dude
that we don't know who he
comes to our is
threatens my wife and gets all hostile
with her when she's alone with my kid
i'm not even there i was here working
all right
tells you that we're going to do this
[ __ ] the easy way or the hard way and
your husband better come up with my dog
blah blah blah and she's like and that
was last night two nights ago two nights
ago okay
so she's kind of in like what the [ __ ]
just happened mode grabs the kid my kid
gets in the truck comes here
comes inside and i'm like
that's weird like what's she doing here
like she's supposed to be at home
she doesn't say anything
until all of our customers are gone
okay what's the matter babe what's going
on
she breaks down worse than this she's
crying some dude [ __ ] corners are at
my house
so i'm all upset because at home it's a
lot different set of rules than in your
store you have a public image
and she's like yeah this guy and all
this stuff she's telling me all the
details that we have shared with you
i'm back there stripping off a base for
an optic to put on a gun for a guy who's
going to be here in an hour this dude
comes in and i can hear him because he's
being loud as [ __ ]
talking about how he wants her husband
right now and i want to know where my
dog's at blah blah blah
and i put my tools down and i walk out
and look around the corner and this
dude's standing there all [ __ ] smug
and being loud in front of
at least three maybe more customers
so now all these people are freaked out
and they're like oh
[ __ ] making it for the door
and
who the [ __ ] does this like
the second time in a row we have nothing
to do with this guy's dog oh why don't
you come outside and talk to me and
we'll [ __ ] handle this
what
right
so the options of me going outside is i
place him under a rest
i kill him or he shuts the [ __ ] up and
leaves no
like that's just standard use of force
i'm not going to fight that guy
i just got over kobe i'm a cop too
i have
explicit instructions from my management
that this type of [ __ ] going on i have
to give this [ __ ] to you
because they deem this a
a local pd issue
if i get involved then the fbi is going
to start showing up and i [ __ ] hate
the fbi
passionately
so
this [ __ ] guy is crazy we don't have
his dog i will take all three of you to
my house i will give you an unlimited
search and seizure and you can do
anything you want to look for this
[ __ ] dog this is my dog
y'all can look at him rob coleman
i'll say
that's my dog this is that's mine that's
her
i guess he kind of looks brown i don't
[ __ ] know
but he doesn't look like a lab he's a
king corso
do you guys want to go to my house i
will unlock everything and let you do
anything you want in my house let me let
me talk to this officer real quick and
then go talk with him as well and see uh
i'll try and pull some records to see
whatever happened with animal control
and uh and hopefully we can answer some
questions for him
i don't think she has
there's some uh
there's a [ __ ] facebook group and
it's like lincoln county lost pets
search it she's found more people's
[ __ ] dogs and gotten back home
what the [ __ ] would i kidnap a dog for
let me go talk to him and uh we'll see
what that's what i could figure out okay
yeah go for it i'll leave the door
unlocked okay
can we just figure it out
as easy as possible okay i'm saying that
okay and they have the video the audio
audio of it
okay oh please
well we don't have him i think he did
something so
all right guys
um have you guys number one let's talk
about the dog real quick have you guys
checked the pound or anything yeah we
didn't even everywhere and it's not it's
not showing up there posted all over
facebook shared okay
okay
i was telling the
officer
rodella
i have pictures
i have my dog had a gps tracker a collar
a collar it was at his house at the time
i didn't know that it was um we didn't
know we didn't even know they existed
before all of this okay so i just
when i was looking for my dog i was
going up warwick on camelot okay
and i was tracking the
caller
and it says that uh it said that uh it
was coming my way my direction
so i'm looking at the phone i'm looking
up i'm driving
and then all of a sudden there's this
car calling us right there at that 90.
so i looked up and looked down and by
the time he passed me
i mean i looked on my phone and the
caller asked me i was like oh
my dog is in that car okay by the time i
turn around
he was gone okay
so i was following the
the tracker and then uh it it said that
it was dead that it was at the travel
center okay so i took off over there i
was looking for the dog couldn't find
them
i stayed there for like an hour hour and
a half
it got dark
and i turned on the light the sound i
was able to find it underneath some um
flower bed okay and it was like hidden
like someone clicked over there it was
placed there okay so i got it
we did the report we called the we even
went to the security okay at the travel
center they told us that we needed to
call a via which we did
and then they told us we needed to call
um
okay which we did so we can see the
the videos because there's three cameras
right there
anyways uh officer wall
uh told us that
you might want to check with your
neighbors and see if they have
cameras okay
which i did
and one of my neighbors had a camera
okay that's when i plan find out that it
was this guy
because
that's her car his car too well the wife
yeah the forerunner and my neighbor sent
me pictures of that car
passing and it coincides at the same
time at the same time with the tracks
passing by okay so i have pictures of
him
right i have pictures of the tracker
when my dog was at his house
and i have a
pictures of when
he i think he went up on warwick turn
around
and hold us to
the travel center okay
so i we didn't say anything until
wednesday was it wednesday yeah yeah i
wanted to talk to uh
his wife no i think it was it was
thursday
it was wednesday it was wednesday and
thursday they didn't call us and yes
so i went and talked to his wife
and as soon as she heard about
we asked her hey you have seen a brown
lab around no i haven't
uh we saw
uh
we saw russell i don't know a little dog
okay i was like okay so
do you know where my dog is she's like
no i don't know what you're talking
about
i was like okay well
i have pictures i have proof that your
husband took my dog my dog was here
monday so right there she got mad okay
she started giving us attitude and she
just got married yeah okay so i was like
okay ma'am okay that's fine i just want
to talk to your husband
okay i want to do this the easiest way
just give me my dog back and that's it
you know
she's like wow you're gonna have to
you're gonna have to talk to him i was
like okay
she asked me for my number
which i gave her my phone number and
then my daughter has she asked her too
hey can we have your phone number as
well
she looked at my
daughter and she's like
no you already know where where we live
what do you want my phone number for but
she was mad okay
so right there i told my daughter let's
just leave i told her have your husband
call me
i will okay that was wednesday
no call
thursday not call friday
not call okay
so today i came in here to talk to him
wait until the customers were out of the
store yeah that was i i've been here for
we waited for like 30 minutes 40 minutes
okay waiting for everybody to leave in
the parking lot yeah
yeah because they had customers okay so
when they were by themselves i walked in
and i told the wife hey i'm here again
for my dog
she wanted and
got him he was at the office i guess in
the back
right away she he came out and he's like
you need to leave you're trespassing i
was like hold on i'm here to talk to you
about my dog
no you need to leave i'm going to put
you under arrest like for what
i'm just here because i want my dog i
know you have it
uh i have proof i have pictures i just
want my dog right i want to do this the
easiest way you want to do the hard way
let's go it's like go you need to leave
now so that's by the time i was already
at the door
so i just told them hey
then you want to go the hard way you'll
be hearing from from my lawyer okay
because
well
i didn't
like i know
where i'm walking in
does it
after we knew it was him
i didn't want to go to his house at
night yeah especially not at night yeah
because he's always carrying a gun
i don't care again i don't like dance
okay so
he's like on his social media he's a
violent person as well so that's exactly
why we avoided going to his house like
my dad said in the night
and that's why i it was my idea to come
here and talk to him okay my
understanding is you guys have audio yes
i do
do you mind if i listen to it is that of
today yes right now it's right now
before we walked in okay
is their husband here
hey how are you hey it's not bad you're
trespassing you need to leave now well i
need to talk to you no you're gonna
leave the store now okay i will i am i'm
just here to let you know that i have
proof that you took my dog
okay pictures and everything you'll be
you'll be hearing from my lawyer oh yeah
i'm gonna give
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i want to do this the easiest way you
don't want to that's fine all i'm asking
is for you to give me my dog back
if you don't want to do that
let's go the hard way it's up to you
you tell me what you want me to do
he is being aggressive and he will not
leave it's okay we're important yeah
that's right that's fine i don't see how
we're being okay that's fine that's fine
you'll be hearing from my lawyer
that's cool
okay
um
i'm gonna ask if i i mean
i think this says a whole lot um but he
does have video in there i'm gonna ask
if i can see the video um just to kind
of see um
actual
did you say that was
violent or yeah exactly what to say what
did he say that i was yes yeah he said
that you were not violent necessarily
but he did claim that you guys were not
necessarily you guys but that you were
being aggressive towards him and stuff
like that i think the video we'll see uh
or the audio right in and of itself kind
of disproves that but i want to see the
video as well just so i can say that i
saw that i saw that just tell him
um but i think he got something okay now
um as far as the i just want to make
sure i understand you obviously you were
tracking the dog and it was coming your
way and it passed you this vehicle left
or passed by you right and then you said
that your neighbor had video of this
particular car yes
so
that's a 534 that's their house right
there okay so my dog was coming
this way
at 534 536
so at 544
this is
the road right here okay so he i think
he'd drive up i'm pretty sure he did
with the dog or the collar
and change his mind
turn around
and
this 90 right here that's what he passed
me okay so
he came down cambridge
you can look at the time
544 okay
my neighbor's house is this one right
here okay
right here so
544 let me show you a picture of
that's it
five oops that's not it that's 5.45
that's him
and that's me behind him
but he was like three minutes so he
wasn't in he was in this and that one
right there okay
and do you have the time that's stamped
on this yeah
5 45.
okay and that's what i'm that's what i'm
saying
uh 544 he was coming he was driving down
with my with the collar
down in that cambridge way yes
so he went
that's
highway 70.
he went all the way to the
travel center that's right there okay
and that's where he plays that
he drove around where the semis parked
he drove like i guess he pulled in and
just did a circle whatever
and then uh
uh
he placed that gps collar underneath the
flower bed okay can can i see the
pictures again of the of the two
vehicles of your vehicle in his vehicle
that tastes okay can i zoom in on it
okay
and then let me see
the one of you shortly after
okay
and you can see the the time
um is that 5 45 so they text you this
right yes they text you that this is the
time stamp so 5 48 and then 5 45 yeah i
was i was there uh 5 40 so you were
three minutes behind yeah
by the time i i turned around
because like i said warwick is because
it's too it's a narrow narrow road okay
and there was a car behind me
so i stopped and she wouldn't go she
wouldn't go so i went around her and
turned around
came down
i came down on cambridge because i was
following my tracker okay so he passed
first and then i was right behind him
yeah when we got to the stop sign on
lancashire and
highway 70 yep i thought he uh my
daughter the little one she's like maybe
they took it to the town
we cruise over there
we didn't see any cars and then i looked
on my tracker again and it says that uh
it was at the travel center okay by the
time i got there like no one was there
okay
um i can obviously so you said officer
wall was the one that you guys reported
to yeah he's the one that
the biggest i mean that's good evidence
that you have right now as far as their
vehicle what i would need to be able to
hone that in a little bit more as a
license plate which i don't necessarily
think we're gonna have right now but the
biggest thing that we can have is going
to be the video from uh the travel
system
so i will i'm gonna i'm gonna get a hold
of the uh the travel center today uh
i'll call them whenever we leave here
and see if we can try and get video i'm
gonna i'll ask for a specific times and
a date from uh from you so i can give
that to them okay hopefully we can see
uh not only the vehicle the same vehicle
go through the parking lot but see who
got out of the car as well but like i
said the tracker was at third place yes
yes no i'm with you i think i'm going to
give you my card as well um so you can
maybe email me all this different stuff
okay um because i'm with you i mean i
think you you've done your research and
you know i think you've done exactly
what you should be doing and like my dad
said like we wouldn't be confronting
them if we didn't know for a fact yeah
we waited a few days before we
did anything like we wanted to make sure
not you know not start accusing you but
we came because we know we we believe we
have enough evidence
i think he didn't know what the gps was
or maybe he thought it was just a
color right but not a gps just the
caller right you know what i mean right
but he didn't know it was a gps tracker
right i don't know so i'm gonna and then
i'm gonna also ask him basically i'm
going to break down exactly what you
have told us
because i don't know if you've been able
to get express all this stuff to him
exactly to make him understand
right away so i'm going to go talk i'm
going to go talk with him explain what
you guys have um and then uh
we'll i'm gonna go to the travel center
or call the travel center and see if
they can get that video um because the
sooner we can get that the better
obviously we went to the travel center
like my dad said there was uh not only
one camera
after that or i'm going to also try and
look at this video just so i can see
the aggression or lack of aggression on
anybody's part you know what i mean um i
just want to see for my own self not
just not speculate on what's going on um
let me get some of your guys's
information okay i don't have give your
notebook i left mine at the tv let him
uh get phone numbers and then i'm gonna
go grab a card real quick and give it to
you so you can email me not only the
voice recording
but the pictures and everything that you
have okay
here's my card um hold on they're
talking about you
um so a couple things on what he number
one uh officer rodella is giving him a
trespass notice so he can't come back on
the property um so hopefully
we
we can explain
ten four they're wanting more specific
49.
ten four is that bia or is that uh the
travel center
ten four i'm being told that
bia already has the video if you can
maybe try talking to them
negative um
we don't right now i'll give i'll call
you whenever we're 98 here
um so
i explained the whole situation here uh
number one does your does your cameras
work in here yeah she's grabbing footage
right now okay perfect um
what he
is claiming is number one obviously that
you guys took his dog
um i guess that chocolate lab and the
reason they think that is because the
same chocolate lab that i don't know
that i don't know they checked with um
asking as you said that you were looking
up a report they checked with the travel
not the travel center the humane society
um and they don't have a
chocolate lab there so it's not like uh
animal control
took it recently and took it over
right so it's not there um i'll check
with our animal control to see if and
when he picked up a chocolate lab it may
not even be the right one the same one
well what i was referencing
when i was talking about animal control
was months back okay animal control was
months back okay
and i don't know that he ever caught the
dog okay he just made it specific that
he knew the dog
and that he was filing a report and he
was going to charge the owner we never
knew the owner okay we never saw we
never i mean that's not you guys
wouldn't ever tell
someone hey these are the people that
complained about you so we never knew
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who it is that we were making to
complain about we just knew chocolate
lab dog ate chickens okay i'm convinced
that it's probably them
and when they got that charge given to
them but
i have the mucus thing from kovitzart
when we filed that charge
animal control charge not you
pd
that they're bitter about that now their
dog's missing they
apparently are looking for their dog and
see me in my neighborhood and they're
convinced that i have the dog
i don't even know what day they're
talking about so let me explain what
they're claiming okay sure um he's
saying that he had this gps tracking
collar on the dog okay and so that he
his dog was missing so he went up um to
i guess your neighborhood because that's
where the dog was running in do they
live in our neighborhood they do um
somewhere somewhere in that area so he
went up to that neighborhood
and uh was trying to track the dog
um
that's not the guy that got out of that
van i don't think
hey guys we're closed right now yeah i'm
sorry about that
i saw another
no there's a chick in there now that's
probably done sorry
um it was just weird he's claiming that
uh so he's following this tracking
device seeing that it's running all over
the place and it gives gps and time on
it um he's noticing as he's driving in
the neighborhood he's noticing that the
tracker is now coming his way he's going
up the mountain and the tracker is
coming down the mountain
so he's looking at it and taking he can
i guess record it or take snapshots i
don't know how
but he basically intersects with it or
passes the tracker at the same time that
i guess your vehicle passes him okay um
the
black forerunner
yeah that's what i told officer
rodella
that because of kobe we were about three
weeks of just
home ridden couldn't go anywhere
we parked my truck the only vehicle we
drove for the last
two-ish and a half weeks somewhere in
there has just been her forerunner
completely believable that he saw me
driving a black four runner because i'm
the only one that left to get groceries
or go to walgreens right and so what
he's saying is that the same time he
passed your phone forerunner is the
exact same time that the app on his
phone
showed the gps track in his vehicle and
so he noticed that and so he does a
u-turn actually gets stuck behind a car
that's behind
possibly your vehicle
follows it can't figure out where where
it went he looks on his app again
and ends up seeing that the
caller is in the parking lot of the
travel center so he goes and it
pinpointed exactly where it was he
reached by a planner that's by the
gas prices sign
reached by a planner over there hey
folks we're closed right now i'm sorry
can i just lock the door really quick so
that this
sorry
did he give you a rough time frame like
a date or uh yeah he has a week he has
all of that so he's saying he wasn't let
me explain he tracked the uh
the caller or what he thought was the
dog to the travel center pinpointed
exactly an exact location he was able to
find it next to some planners
in the travel center parking lot
and so i guess he called officers that
day
because he thought his dog was stolen
the officer said why don't you check in
your neighborhood and see if anybody has
cameras in your neighborhood and so
that's what he did
and it shows
on that specific day at the specific
times that his gps shows the dog going
by a particular address they have a
camera it shows your vehicle or that
black vehicle what appears to be that
black vehicle driving down lancashire
and three minutes later him driving
behind you or that car
um and then only a few minutes after
that is when the caller was found so
that's why he believes that it has to do
with you guys is because your vehicle
was seen in the area at very specific
times okay so the only time i've been to
the travel center recently because i
don't gamble so there's it's not like i
would be there every day
one of them
one of my buddies who's
less intelligent than he should be for
his age
was intoxicated needed a ride
don't worry about it what time what time
was that at again do you remember
five something yeah almost almost six
seven afternoon almost six o'clock okay
but this is the only time i've been to
the travel center so that's why this
basically has to be that i don't go to
the travel center
i don't go to the end
i just i don't gamble so i don't go
there
so that's why he thinks it's you guys
what we're gonna do um officer wall he's
the one that handled the original call
okay for for him when he called
he went to the travel center requested
video and so we could hopefully see
who what oh where when you see me
driving the parking lot trying to find
my friend
hopefully i don't know maybe they tell
you guys to pound sand i don't know what
they're going to tell you
they're very cooperative with us they
bia goes with us
well all i know is it was at five
o'clock and it was when
roughly
what what day did you go to the travel
center i can look
i'll find out the day that i got asked
to come and pick him up
i'm going through text messages no
problem
approximately
four ish days ago but i'm going to give
you the exact day i just i have to look
it up okay so when i drove there
it was hey can you come pick me up i'm
at the travel center yeah yeah cool
don't worry about it i don't need him
getting arrested on the res
not that i have any ill feelings against
res cops but
i don't want to see a white dude get
arrested and then get like [ __ ] with
i drove there to go pick him up because
he's [ __ ] stupid and he's drunk
i didn't find him there
as i left because he wasn't in the
parking lot hey yeah i'm already walking
up the road and i'm like up what [ __ ]
road and where sit the [ __ ] down
because i don't need him to get a drunk
in public or anything else
he's on 70. i flew past him
that's where i picked him up
on the res but not like
not far but yeah i was at the travel
center okay absolutely was because
that's where he should have been do you
have the it's still the messages okay
well that's loading so
i did fill out the criminal trespass
notice so he knows he's not allowed to
come back to the egg agency here at
2814. can we extend that to the house
we can fill out one for the house as
well perfect i would like to do that
she's making plans on staying in a hotel
because of what he did today so now she
doesn't even want to go to our home
and i'm shutting down
i don't know when i made the call for
service 30 minutes ago
so i'm shutting down three hours early
because of this
and we've had
a handful of customers
what's the home address again
it won't load past wednesday hold on a
second
okay i can't load the message because it
won't populate back far enough okay so
either wednesday or tuesday of the week
that just happened
is when i got asked okay
i did
i don't want anyone drinking and driving
so
drove
he wasn't there
and when i got him i took him home okay
and i was gone for about
45 to 50ish minutes
in that area okay that's how long i was
gone from my home okay
god here he would
he refused to sign it no no it's still
valid regardless he understands that um
he'll print there sign there
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you do the same on the next one i'll
finish filling that one out
oh on the other sorry
i thought you meant the next sheet
that'll be the one
so the other part that's finished
concerning or complicating when we
talked to officer wall was what you said
his name was i don't know if that's who
you talk to that's who they reported
their stuff to was officer wall but i
don't know oh no i'm talking about the
guy that was here with us
yeah i don't know who that was he
claimed that he took a video image
from someone's security system
got our license plate got our names and
our address okay
and 16 years
i've never worked anywhere
where hey i have this video and it's uh
this video but i'd like you to give me
all of the information about the owner
who's who gave him that information
that's what he's claiming he's claiming
that somebody gave him
he's told my wife that he took the video
of me
driving
and that he got the information from the
cops okay the officer that came here
said absolutely not
i said you're right absolutely not
no one in law enforcement is just
dishing out
information about stuff that's not how
it works right if i call you and say hey
i just saw this red car license plate so
and so run over an old lady
you're not going to tell me who the
person is you're going to go out and
find them
so i'm concerned
at how he found our house and our
business
i don't the video doesn't show a license
plate so i don't believe that statement
no i'm i'm aware
but it it draws the concern of how did
he find us
so my prediction
and i really
i need you to look for that animal
control report
as mundane and frustrating as that might
be for you i understand you guys have
real cop stuff to do trust me
when animal control filed that report
there was a kid in a white lexus who
very reasonably could be their child
based on the age and the race of the
child
driving a white lexus up and down our
street
on the phone taking pictures of our
house etc etc
all we did was call animal control
animal control was in front of the house
and i was like
you ever seen this [ __ ] truck before
and he's like oh yeah man that's the kid
his parents on the dog
that's how i think
this all ties together so when i told
you that we had filed this charge
through animal control and we pissed off
the owners
now that his dog's gone
he thinks it's mean
and that's exactly how we knew where we
lived
because
possibly i don't know up and down the
street maybe the kid was being honest
maybe the kid was looking for the dog
i don't know
what he's claiming uh obviously that the
gps tracker showed the dog at your house
so he went to that house and asked did
you guys find a chocolate lab and that's
when your wife said no absolutely not
and that's when he recognized
your wife and you or your vehicles or
something as far as it than being here
to clarify it didn't go that smooth well
i don't know i don't know i wasn't there
and this is you know after the fact but
that's what he's claiming
um
so you know i can't prove what he's
saying is true or not um we're gonna get
out of here though real quick before we
do is there
how do i word it is there any reason why
the caller at the exact same time and
place
would show up at the travel center
as you
no clue dude okay
did any other cars show up on this
camera that caught me leaving the
neighborhood i'll have to look at that
at the camera footage there was your
vehicle
another vehicle and then this guy's
vehicle
according to him but i'll have to go
look at the video itself i saw he's
still following me why didn't he follow
me to the travel center it was three
minutes after the fact you went by at a
specific time three minutes later he
went by and it's on the video footage
so it's not that he was following you it
is kind of coincidental that the gps
tracker went from there to there you're
also saying that you're at the travel
center at the same time yeah i'm not i'm
so telling you i was there i'm not even
arguing that i was there yeah i'm just
saying i went to go
pick up a dumbass
my big issue is
people being on the road driving leading
going in this direction well all worse i
don't know who else
went
to the travel center all were basically
all were saying is there any reason that
the dog gps tracker showed up at the
exact same location as you at the exact
same time
no okay
not i do not know this is not a
me thing okay
to also
put this into perspective
at any point this guy could have asked
and talked and we probably would have
helped him find his dog
i don't know if you guys are married or
what your situation is
but that dude showing up and
right out of the gate
starting in on my wife cornering her in
the staircase between the stairs in the
truck
and scaring the [ __ ] out of her
just set that whole tone yeah there was
not going to be any he's not saying it
went that way though
according to him and i don't again i
don't know if you guys have cameras or
not but he's saying that's not the
instance um have cameras at the house
that's why it's and then i'll i will say
this they they did do audio recording in
here although obviously i can hear you
guys arguing um and you telling him to
get out
well not only that but it doesn't seem
like he's extremely
um
agitated anything like that let's see if
she has the footage okay yeah so that
you could
watch it yeah absolutely
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i know it's not going to change a whole
lot for you i know you're not just going
to watch this and walk out and do
anything but you guys want to see the
video yeah okay
how do you work this off
you probably want to pull the tv down
but i have it set at 52 and
you can see the female walking back and
forth in front of the store here
starting at like 53 something
okay so we'll all just watch it but
now i'm
all the mucus strange
this is
probably
the best angle
but we set this up so that if people
come in
and do like a smash and grab type thing
right you can see the faces okay
this one is angled
at the majority of the display and then
this one just catches a long image so
you'll see him clear here but then
you'll lose it for a second and you'll
get the bulk of it here i think
yeah we run a little too far sorry
how far did you rewind it baby like a
minute and a half on accident it's it's
you can't drag it and drop it you have
to fast forward your wings thank you
she walks past our doors this way and
then she stops behind the pillar and
mills around a little bit
is that her
could try fast forwarding a little bit
these guys want to leave soon
just whenever they come in let's hit
play then how about that
because i'm still out
i'm still out here working on the gun
she walked by that way she kneeled
around she walked by that way and here
they go
i didn't recognize is there audio
it's like an extra
literally like 1500 bucks okay
i can't spring for audio man yeah no i
get that
it's you guys probably heard very
accurate audio it's more
him me telling him to leave him not
leaving me telling him to leave again
never grabbed my gun never became
hostile
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left him the open avenue to escape he's
still not leaving
every time i'm pointing at the door is
me telling him that he needs to leave
okay
so i feel like the trespass paperwork
was
valid
mandy's on camera one with nine one one
somewhere in here i told him something
about
me not having his dog
and how i didn't appreciate him
the way that he's acting something to
that effect okay i'm sure you guys heard
that hopefully
then they leave
and he's talking about doing stuff the
easy way or the hard way
and he takes off to a car
so
the way
i think about cars is
cars have guns in them
that's why i walked out
very clearly did not pursue him i just
stood at the door
watched because if he got out with a gun
that was going to be it
because that
the way that i saw and perceived his
body language
he was just ready language
he was just ready to [ __ ] [ __ ] up okay
cool awesome i'm down too
i would have been down to have helped
him look for his [ __ ] dog
but he didn't want to do that he is
insistent that i have kidnapped his dog
somewhere in here is where i'm asking
for a soup
all the customers leave
does he ever come back inside no i
wasn't gonna let him back in okay and
does do you guys ever approach each
other again
no no no you're not missing anything
after this you're just i wanted you to
see what happened
i didn't i rate and do anything right
like
throwing my hands up yelling and [ __ ] i
was just on the phone with pd okay
are you willing to play mediator for
five seconds
as far as i'd like to talk to him
without his wife yeah it's probably not
a good idea um
because yeah it's just not a good idea i
don't think we'll do that he's already
trespassed from here there's no reason
for him to come here anymore there's no
reason he can't go here or to your house
and so i don't even know if they're
still here but no we won't do that
because i know it's not going to take
five seconds and i know somebody's going
to get angry
um
we're going to get out of here for now
you have my card um i'll get a hold of
you we have your number
i'll get a hold of you you know if
anything changes if he finds his dog or
figures out something else
if they do bad ass like
why have i called animal control all
these times
right so do you have any questions for
us right now
no just frustrated and that's not your
guys's problem right so okay
well if you please issue if you need
something let us know and then um i'll
keep in touch with you guys
okay stay in touch all right guys
sorry that you guys had to deal with us
no it's no problem
thank you so much you both have a good
shift though thank you i appreciate it
so they said they initially thought it
was a silver car
that they didn't know until they got
their superheroes from the house
and so
so they had a travel center looking up
um
for a silver car and they said that they
maybe they said they didn't have a
silver car
that they did they didn't see a silver
car okay
so at the travel center
but it may
but they did we're able to review the
cameras
um okay i explained everything to him um
i watched the video
and i agree um you
the call that we were dispatched to is
not actually what appears to have
happened
through your audio it wasn't yelling and
screaming and very threatening at all
watching the video there wasn't any
face-to-face contact uh throwing up
hands anything like that
so i would say that's a little bit of an
exaggeration um from here we're going to
try and do some follow-up with the
travel center see if we can get some
video um did you get the you got date
and time from when you found the
tracking device over there um so we can
go straight to that and we can go and
show you guys exactly where he was at so
whenever you guys are looking at the
surveillance because i mean you'll see
the the tracker anyway yeah but we can
like show you exactly what so whenever
you guys are looking at the surveillance
you know exactly what you're looking for
okay well i need to call them first um
actually i'll follow you guys over there
to the travel center so you can show me
exactly where and then i know exactly
what cameras
and then after that then i'll get a hold
of bia and the travel center so we can
start getting that video
okay i'll follow you guys over there
um
um
you need a bigger bag
well do you see
anything that we're going to collect yet
are you looking for
no any of it really but as long as it
says remington on there
on the end of it
take it but i don't think any of these
do
oh wait
these all say remington
go ahead
how many did you find
on the
uh three three magazines appear to be
fully loaded
i think
30 round
uh no i think those are going to be 20.
seth
there's no
556-223 in this house but there's
what yeah
yep unless
yeah yeah those i've found some cement
casings
in the drawer in the house
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yeah in the kitchen drawer spent
let me see
these are these are 223 warming yeah me
too
can you take these or no
i just put remington
uh you want to photograph the
head stamp on it
um
okay so uh
i guess there's some kind of gps system
in the vehicle
it's probably
oh
well
she's been cooperative but i don't know
that she'll give up her phone
so
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um
i even crawled in the attic
what it's safe she opened it
yeah
maybe that's uh
maybe we're seizing
where would it be
because brazier just pulled out his best
let me photograph
those
mend it
no we'll be good
okay
i just put
ammunition
is you can admit it for the safe
just photograph it and take down
okay
ask border patrol if we can take it
right
did
he told her not to talk either
i wonder
his board
check it out
he told her not to talk
okay
because i haven't got a hold of an
attorney yet
you give me a call yeah all right
we're probably about to wrap up here
we're probably about to wrap up here
okay
all right so we're going to take all the
ammo right
yeah
okay
you want them in individual bags or you
want them in the same bag the same bag
is good okay
just i guess we need to count them huh
count them down later
might as well count them down
yeah normally i load 28 in mine okay
i'm gonna need some more gloves
so while i've been doing this
almost two years
i have no training all my training's
been on the job watching you guys
you're
good we're gonna sing the training
oh yeah
tell him you want to go to las vegas
somewhere
yeah i tried that
out
they said no
this is
yep
six
three
28 in it
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i'm sitting right there
texas
i need to come in that's how i'm at the
building
what's going on
i'm here
okay
all right well
i'm assuming you're going with me
all right do you have your did they give
you your id or anything with you they at
least give your id back
just his new mexico id will work for me
i haven't met him yet so at least i'd
like to
should i just take out the badge and
creds and keep everything else
except it's up to you guys yeah
completely your call want to do that may
as well
because i don't know what they're going
to want
if you have cash if i best leave it here
and the reason being is that the jail
will give back to in a check and depends
on when you get out you might able to
get it when you get out so it's just
cash in there if i have any cash or not
well if you have substantial cash i'd
probably leave it somewhere here just to
be able to get it back i'm sure i'll
lock it up for you so i just got the
badge and credits out
where's your your second badge
this ride
in the junk drawer in my kitchen okay no
no no your walkie-talkie radios in your
ride though
and you can leave that with whoever you
want to leave it with
can i just leave 26 bugs
that can you grab your id for me
and you're going to take your phone with
you
yeah okay
that's sure
yeah we'll do it real quick in a little
bit
just if you want to do that right now
i'll confirm everything and then they
can
are you nights or days
yes
yeah called out
eight four three soccer
now you can sit down if you need to for
a little bit man we're not gonna leave
just yet
one second brother once again sorry
new mexico
hey it's somebody are you on eight yes
yeah i need no no if i get dr carmen
please
uh
hey carmen can you confirm or 79 for me
by olin
so
i'll be going to lincoln county jail
tonight
oh it's a 517. sorry 517 102. 598 told
me
that if i didn't murder someone that the
judge would release me they just don't
know if it'll be bombed or not
and i'm not going to lincoln i'm going
yes
should have a 79
okay can you confirm it please
and then i'll have him 10 15.
thank you ma'am
all right bye
oh actually
what's it for can you just tell me
all right thanks
they tell you what it was for okay
everything for this red
yeah we'll just fax it over here right
here because i'm having faxes straight
to the
streets of the jail we'll just go handle
everything over there
should have just told her that was on
the phone with her
or unless i can get it faxed over here
i can get back over here like to this
officer
hey lauren can you give me carmen back
real quick
hey carmen can you do me a favor can you
fax that over
to the border patrol station here
yes
no the the actual no the actual stage
the office
the main office
do you have the number for it
it's yeah yeah five seven five four
three four four three four five nine
three five nine three seven
and i'll go straight over here
all right thank you
yes ma'am thank you
calls you back huh
yeah cause all the guys are on that
fatal
that's right
they're almost done no i was out there
with them
does anybody let you know what's go what
whether it's four nil
no no
okay once i get the hard copy here i'll
tell you exactly what it's for okay
i don't i don't know either so
no no as much as i do and he probably
knows a little bit more
there's three counts that's three counts
i guess though
um tampering with evidence
and larceny
what's the worst of me exactly
i know i saw the front page of the the
more entirely degree that everything
that was actually
just
yeah i can't explain two of them myself
i have no idea how i'm being accused of
a theft
everything that's in it
now the only problem is it's just going
to be the warranty won't have anything
else with it
if it's from lincoln
yeah the county
warrant had all sorts of stuff in there
yeah social work is a little different
than an arrest warrant though they don't
have to include the probable cause
statement or anything like that it just
has to be the warrant so
most warrants that come from lincoln
county will just be the warrant that
says what you're going to be
charged with and didn't have the
probable cause statement so
so that but that's something like i said
uh i'm sure he's probably already told
you you get your attorney whatever you
need to do okay
yeah i just called her okay
i'll be out in the morning probably yeah
basically i have to go through this
so that i can explain everything in
court which
i don't understand why i had to go that
far but i didn't get to make that call
yeah me and whitlow got called back out
and i got called out because
the guys in lincoln county were
they have two 45s up there right now too
okay
full moon
and it's almost friday
so today list is friday nope
out of the okay no it's fine
yeah we wouldn't transport you up there
anyways
well more likely you'll you'll see the
judge over video conference
that's how they do it all now
before you would actually get
transported back to lincoln county and
see a judge in person now it's all over
video
this is much better it's so much faster
yes yeah you you'd probably actually be
out a little a little earlier than what
you would probably think
and then i'm sure your your bosses will
tell you what you need to do on this end
so
that's a
nice is
i think it's 11 o'clock for those
one
11 or 1
yeah
or how many are there
so
do i need to leave my belt
yeah they'll take it off you anyways you
can leave it if you want
you