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um good morning this is daniel here with cop watch tv i just wanted to welcome everybody into the live stream we're going to go over some of the recent cases from this past week not just cases that involve police officers but some other interesting you know police officer related news so just like it seems like every week lately there was a lot that a lot that happened also some of the feedback that we got from last week some of the questions that were asked in the comments section i'm going to get to some of those as well so um i i just want to invite everyone in and thank everyone from going from coming in actual cactus says hey how's it going uh looks like we have some people from florida from colorado in here so if you wouldn't mind putting in the chat where everybody's coming from you know be curious to see if there's any different police cases news that comes out of the jurisdictions that everybody's in and also kind of while we're going through this one of the points is to if you have questions if you have comments if you have a super chat definitely put it in there because i want to interact and if i'm saying something that you agree with or disagree with or maybe you have a different take on it put it in the chat let's let's let's work out some of these issues and address it um again if you guys haven't already please make sure you subscribe to follow like copwatch tv both here and on tiktok also if you want to follow me again my name is daniel you can follow my channel at police law news over at youtube and tick tock as well where i do some daily content but today we're going to get into some of the most important stories that happened hey from oregon oh goodness oregon i think we have some stuff on portland later on today kansas texas it's nice to see everybody out there heather baldwin is from albuquerque new mexico that's a crazy place all right um okay so here we go today so the first case that i want to talk about it's from an older case that i'm sure everybody is familiar with but i will go over a little bit of the facts but mostly it's the legal updates that happened yesterday so the brianna taylor case this was in louisville i know i didn't say that right but this was in louisville kentucky in march of 2020 and the the short story when it comes to the facts of the brianna taylor case and this is one of the most famous or infamous police officer involved shootings over the last couple years it's one of the main incidents that kind of caused and helped to incite a lot of the riots in the summer of 2020 and it's one of those cases that people point to when they think about this is what's wrong with police departments today this is what's wrong with law enforcement is the brianna taylor case is one of the cases that they point to and there's actually a lot to this case it's pretty complicated so not all of it is police officers doing a bad job there is some of that but not all of it is officers just doing a bad job and not having an appropriate response so some of the facts of the brianna taylor case if you remember this was in reference to a drug investigation so briana taylor's ex-boyfriend was someone named jamarcus glover and brianna taylor they had an on and off again uh relationship and at the time they they were off again so brianna taylor was not currently dating mr glover however they still were in contact well mr glover was accused of drug trafficking and as part of that investigation there were there was accusations that briana taylor was somehow to some level involved in the drug case and during this one night there were four different either four or five different no knock warrants that were signed by judges that all were in reference to this one case and the reason why police officers might do that is because you can imagine a situation where there's a network of individuals who are trafficking drugs and if you say okay we have five houses that you know we think might be involved in this drug trafficking case so you know you can't hit one house on monday one house on tuesday that wouldn't make sense because you can imagine that they would talk to each other and any evidence that the police officers are trying to get from these raids you know wouldn't be there so it's common place for police departments to essentially execute all of these warrants for a single case especially in something like when there's drugs involved on the same day so i believe there were either four or five houses that were hit at the same time so all of them were signed as i'll get into the briana taylors in a second but all of them were signed as no knock worn so the first three or four that had nothing to do with brianna taylor that had to do with her but weren't at her specific residence all of those were no knock warrants and all of those went down essentially without a hitch there was no use of force and more importantly there were no officer involved shootings no police officers were injured and no civilians were injured in those cases when there were no knock warrants when it comes to brianna taylor's case and and you know we have to look at you know what's being said because some of the information i think it's fair to say we don't have all of the information or the information we're getting from the different parties might be conflicting but here's what we think is that police officers did have a no knock warrant for brianna taylor's apartment so they from the judge they could have gone in with a no knock warrant so for whatever reason though they decided not to execute a no knock ward so it's unknown if it was changed at the last minute from the judge or from the supervisors if you listen to some of the officers who were there i know one of them wrote a book and he's done podcasts and i've listened to some of those those podcasts and you know he basically talked about and he said something to the effect of you know we thought that we didn't think that it was going to be dangerous going into brianna's house we know that she didn't have a criminal record that she was going to be alone we essentially weren't there to arrest her we were there just for evidence in her house and they thought that she was going to be alone so they decided that's what the one of the sergeants said they decided in the moment to not do a no-knock warrant kick in the door and um wake her up like that in the middle of the night so they what's being said from the police officers is that they decided to issue a little bit of a courtesy by knocking so they did knock and then once no one came to the door that's when they kicked in the door and once inside the door i think after 12 seconds or so that's when the police officer was shot in the leg and that's when the officers returned fire so with that there's there's a couple things is that um kenneth walker who it was brianna taylor's boyfriend who was home at the time with her in his interview that he did with with the media and in all the statements that he's made to law enforcement and attorneys that are public at this point he says that the police officers knocked that they heard a loud knocking what he says that they didn't do is they didn't yell police so he admits that yes the police officers actually did knock loud enough to where they were they were woken up by it and they were able to hear it pretty loud and that it was concerning to them because it was loud knocking so the idea that police officers did conduct a no-knock warrant into brian taylor's house just isn't accurate because even kenneth walker admits that there was knocking now the argument from the other side is that well you know had the so by them knocking it woke up mr walker and brianna taylor and they were able to arm themselves with a gun because there's mr walker saying he thought it might have been um brianna taylor's ex-boyfriend this glover guy so the argument is that well had they just conducted a no knock warrant just like the other three or four houses that night that had no knock warrants where there weren't any issues at all because you catch police catch people by surprise had they done a no-knock warrant that probably would have saved brianna taylor's life because they probably would have gotten into the house quick before really the individuals knew what was going on which is the point of no knock warrant so all of this stuff to say that you know no knock warrants are are bad it's possible that they're bad but a no knock warrant isn't what happened in brianna taylor's specific case and actually if there was a no knock warrant it's likely the outcome might have been different okay so then there was the officer-involved shooting but what happened yesterday is the attorney general of the united states merrick garland so he charged four different police officers involved in this case with civil rights violations but it's not the officers who actually did the shooting he even went so far as to specifically say that the actions from the police officers who actually did the shooting except for one we'll get that in a second but the officers who shot who killed brianna taylor they aren't charged at all what the allegations are from these allegations have been out there for a while but the allegations from the attorney general and the department of justice are that two of the police officers who were involved on the detective side so the investigation side of writing up the search warrants for brianna taylor's house that there was some false information that there was a false affidavit that was signed that gave them so essentially when they were applying for the search warrant for brianna taylor's house that there was false information put in that search warrant and based on that information that is false that's what that the judge used that as part of probable cause to issue a search warrant and um then there's an allegation that there was also a cover-up that after the shooting that two of the allegations that two of the officers afterwards got together and essentially um tried to had a meeting to see if they could get their story straight because the shooting because the shooting occurred so that's what some of the two of the charges are and then there's a supervisor of the of the detective unit and he is also being charged with civil rights violation so there's three detectives who are so two two officers and a sergeant in a detective unit who are charged civil rights violations and then so the third the last officer is officer harkinson he was the officer who was actually charged with state charges for wanton in endangerment because what he did is he was kind of in a different area so he wasn't in the apartment when the shooting occurred but once the shooting occurred he said that he couldn't hear really where it was coming from and the allegation for lack of a better term is he shot wildly so he fired the allegation as he fired ten times and five of those times he fired through a door in a different apartment when he couldn't see what was on the other side so he was actually charged in state court with charges related to that he was acquitted of those charges but he is one of the officers who was just charged with civil rights violations for unconstant unconstitutional use of force even though his bullets didn't hit brianna taylor they actually didn't hit anybody but he was charged as well so um i think what's interesting i think what's interesting in this is that merrick garland so i think we have to separate and this is what i've been saying for a very long time on this case that the detectives who did the investigation are completely separate from the officers who executed and conducted the actual warrant and i think it's important to remember that because the i i think what happens a lot in the media because they have an incentive to not be honest about it is that they essentially say make it seem like the people who wrote the warrant and maybe either did a bad job were careless or worse case scenario lied in the warrant those are the same police officers who went to the house and did the actual warrant or they were all somehow related but merrick garland went out in a 13-minute statement he actually went out of his way to say that isn't the case he said that the end off the officers who conducted the warrant had no knowledge that there was any problem at all with the actual search warrant so i know that a lot of people might be thinking well isn't it their responsibility to know like what's in a warrant that they're conducting and that's a really good common sense question to ask but i just want you to think about it this way and if this is really common in mid-size and larger police departments that have a lot of officers so if you can imagine a situation this is what normally happens they have detective units who conduct surveillance they conduct interviews they talk to cis in informants they're the ones who write up warrants so one and then they get a they get approved by the district attorney and then a judge and then it goes to a different unit who just conducts the warrant so if you're one of those officers or the supervisor of the unit of who's conducting warrants you have a warrant signed from a judge so the idea that you don't have any idea maybe you get one two three of these a day a week who knows but the idea that you are going to go back and to do like a separate investigation on a complex drug investigation that took months for a main detective to do the idea that you're going to go back and do that doesn't make sense because you have from the perspective of the officer conducting the warrant you have a detective or an officer who wrote information in a probable cause statement that they're putting in there under oath that's approved by a police department supervisor then that goes to the district attorney's office for approval and then finally it goes to a judge so when you're the officer conducting and executing the warrant you have you know this process and you have it signed by a judge so at that point to go back and do any other investigation on it it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense and i just want people to realize that there is a definite distinction and two things can be true at a time the officers i'm not saying this happened because they haven't been convicted of anything but it's it's possible for officers who did the investigation did put some false information in an affidavit if they did that they should be charged absolutely if police officers lie under oath in order to get a search warrant there's no question they should be charged i don't think anybody has any sympathy for that because our civil rights are are extremely important and there's no room for that at all in policing but we can all imagine a situation where there's bad behavior on the detective side but then in the moment when the police officers are conducting the warrant they don't have the knowledge that it's a bad warrant they have good faith that they are doing what they are supposed to do and at the moment that they enter the apartment they take shots the one of the sergeants was shot in the leg and they returned fire that it's a reasonable use of force a reasonable officer-involved shooting so this is something that i've been saying for a very long time and merrick garland who has no reason to support or say anything positive about any of the police officers he specifically went out of his way to say that um that the police officers who executed the warrant had no knowledge of this so uh and if you watch any of the media reports on this at least for the last like last night and and and into this morning no one is making that that uh the the distinction there because the idea that the shooting itself was unjustified is still a narrative that a lot of people are playing into and the explaining it this way about how there's a separation between the two that was even called out by the attorney general and that is not something that you're going to hear a whole lot of so uh pl please put it please put in the comments if um if you have any comments or questions about that i did see someone um actually put in the title of the book i think it's called like 12 seconds in the dark or something to that effect i um i haven't read it yet but i have heard that sergeant on i have heard that sergeant on a couple different podcasts and he he was there that night he was the one who was i believe he was the one who was shot so he does have some he does have some interesting things to say so that's kind of an update on the on the brianna taylor case and and just one thing because these detectives haven't been charged or haven't been convicted yet that they've been charged and and like i said if there's there's definitely a difference between the detectives being lazy being incompetent and purposely lying and doing something that is dishonest and that would be criminal so you know when this goes to court we'll see if it's if it's detectives being lazy and they just didn't put the work in that they should have that's incompetence um if they did something criminal that's completely different and i don't think anyone um would have any issue at all with detectives who put in knowingly false information and lie under oath have any issue with them being charged with any crime whether it's in state court or in federal court so that's that's some of the of the brianna taylor case um also the the next case that i wanna the next case that i wanna talk about it's a really tragic case it happened on july 15 in hancock county georgia um the woman's name is brianna greer she was 28 years old so i mean this is this is an in-custody police officer death it's on body cam i think we're going to share a link to the actual body cam so you can definitely go back and watch it and i would encourage i'd encourage everyone to go back and watch the body camera for footage of it but let me just set this up a little bit it's one of the most tragic in custody police deaths that i've seen in a very long time so brianna grier is a 28 year old female and she suffers from schizophrenia and on this day she was having a mental health crisis she was in the middle of a crisis her mother is the one who called for police officers and her mother reported a couple things her mother reported that she was out of control and that she was threatening family members including her two young twin daughters so she called for police officers to get some help two deputies with the hancock county sheriff's office they arrived on scene where the body camera starts is brianna grier is on the ground and she is yelling so she's yelling something effective that she's not drunk that she's willing to take a breathalyzer test the police officers handcuff her and they do something interesting they handcuff her in the front so her hands are handcuffed in the front at this point there's a decision that she's going to be arrested for misdemeanor domestic battery charges so i'll get to in a minute but one of the questions i have is you know some jurisdictions when someone is in the middle of a mental health crisis and if they've shown to be a danger to themselves or others that's one of the ways that police officers can essentially lack a better term take someone's freedom away and make them go do a mental health evaluation what that does and a lot of times if there are only misdemeanor charges pending that's something that police officers by policy or just by police officers in the moment thinking this is the best thing for this individual that's something that a lot of police departments do so i questioned about whether or not that was even an option for these for these police officers there but what happened in this case is so they handcuff her in the front they ask her multiple times to get in the car well i think we all know what that's like when you have someone who just isn't in their right mind sometimes it's drugs sometimes it's alcohol but with brianna it's not something she did intentionally she suffers from schizophrenia okay so so i mean this isn't it's not her fault she didn't do anything to make herself behave like this so i think there's an added level of sympathy there is that um so essentially one of the sergeants or one of the officers picks her up and kind of you know kind of throws her in the car nothing unreasonable but you know they have to get her in the car so i don't have an issue with that now once she's in the car they close the door really tight um the officer who is driving there are two different cars the single officer cars the officer who is driving that car isn't the officer who threw her in then he gets into the driver's seat and before he does he asks the officer who threw her in who closed the door and says did you close the other side of the door or is the other door closed and the other officer says yes now if it's your police car you're responsible to know if there's doors open and closed and stuff like that but he gets in the car they start driving as on body cam i'm glad it's a good thing it's recorded they start driving away and she's in the in the passenger side they also don't put a seat belt on her so she has her hands in the front she has no seat belt on and she's she's sitting um on the uh or she's sitting or laying on the passenger side the rear passenger side of the back seat and and even in the body cam you can hear there's like a thump or a thud and she fell out of a moving car so they get out of the car um they they stop they say brianna brianna and they try to talk to her and it seems like she's she's not conscious but she's breathing at that point ems gets there she does go into a coma and she actually dies six days later so that this just has so many questions so many questions about what happened the first thing i want to know is how could this happen so i'm not a car expert i don't know if we have any car experts in here but if a door is close and so just one thing i should say is that the georgia bureau of investigation has conducted an investigation and isn't is conducting an investigation and and i read the last couple days on their website that that they said that the reason that this happened because at first it came out so at first it came out that maybe she had kicked the door she had kicked the door open which no one should be able to do anyways but that was some of the initial reports on it but what the georgia bureau of investigation found after going to the car and doing some tests and investigation into the actual vehicle in the door is that the door wasn't shut all the way so i'm still not clear if it wasn't shut at all or wasn't shut all the way now for it to not be shut at all like do it just wide open that doesn't make much sense because you would think that even in the driver's seat you'd be able to see that the door isn't open but so they weren't exactly clear there's no diagrams of exactly where it was now there was another officer on scene and at least as of now the body camera footage from his car or from his body camera it hasn't been released so we don't know if maybe it's captured on there to answer some of these questions but either way the door wasn't closed all the way and that's how she fell out so a couple things about that you know it's how is the door not closed all the way but and again i'm not a vehicle expert i don't know if anyone else is but even if you have a door that is closed if it's closed even if it's not all the way locked that isn't the kind of thing that typically just opens please in the comments correct me if i'm wrong it's not the kind of thing that just opens by itself and also like with most vehicles and especially in any police car that i've been in if one of your doors is open there's an indicator there's a light sensor sometimes there's a dinging that goes on sometimes the the dome light is on so there's also internal mechanisms inside the vehicle because is it possible that the door wasn't closed all the way and that's you know the officer as he's driving if he didn't have any indication that's one thing but if there was something ringing or dinging um or a light on that so that's good to know um on the body camera it doesn't appear that brianna is kicking and at least at least when it comes to what you can hear on the body camera there isn't anywhere that shows that um that you can see that's obvious that it was um that it was left let out um or that that any kind of an indication that the door was left was left open so that was a pretty tragic case now some of the questions that i have about that are some of them that i asked before so you know one of the ways to so they made a big deal about the seat belt because i'm sure it's part of their policy that you know when you transport someone you have to put them in the seat belt but she had her hands in the front so if your hands are in the front you if you want to you can seat belt yourself also you can take your seat belt off so if the officers had seat belted her with her hands in the front she could have taken that off of herself so um you know really do they have a policy there that when you arrest individuals they have to be placed in the back so what would that consist of if officers did that you know wanted to put the handcuffs behind her back and then if that's part of their policy well think about it this way so here she is they had to pretty much use some level of force maybe just low level control tactics but they had to use some force to actually get her in the car uh now she's in the car her hands are in the front okay um can you imagine a situation where they say oh you know what we really need her hands behind her back so what they would have to do is they would probably have to take her out of the car probably by force and then probably have to use some more force to unhook one of the handcuffs and get both hands behind her back and then they'd probably have to use force to get her in again well what if she is tased or injured during that whole transfer the criticism of police officers might be hey you had this lady in the car she was already in there and she's handcuffed in the front she's not going anywhere but you purposely went out of the way to drag her out of the car handcuffed behind her back and threw her back in and during that time of force was used so i could see there being criticism there but i'll be i would be curious to know is do does the hancock county sheriff's office have a policy about where they're supposed to handcuff people and if um if the individuals have to be placed in seat belts and um it's hard to say if this is you know was just so it's obvious that there was no intention from the police officers to kill brianna or to do anything to harm her like that we know that that wasn't the intention of the police officers so the question is going to be were the police officers just negligent enough to create a situation um uh to um read that comment second on were they just negligent enough to create a situation where she lost her life um so we have a comment from bruce blankenship i think you heard the thud of her falling out uh you would have heard her kicking it open if it wasn't partially lash it would take a good amount of force kick it open bruce those are my thoughts exactly so the body camera you cannot hear any kicking um also also yeah if it's partially latched it should you're 100 right if it's just partially latched then in order to get it open you would think it wouldn't just come open by itself that you would have to use some kind of significant force to get it open if it would even open at all and since there's no kicking that was heard that makes it seem like either that was just a huge malfunction with the lock of the door or maybe that door was just open was was not locked but open maybe by like an inch and that it was dark there's no street lights in this location and it looked like to the officer that it was closed maybe initially brianna so i mean typically we know that police officers put people in on the passenger side that's normally what police officers do so is it possible that the officer before the body cam started or before you know was released kind of opened the door just a little bit maybe an inch in the anticipation that brianna is going to get in there and then all of this happened and then they just forgot that it wasn't completely closed um so that's that's that's something that could happen and that's um uh yes uh blue pepper let's see most cops have children they would never transport them unbuckled so why drive an aggressive person without a seatbelt yeah and blue pepper that is a that is a great question and the thing is most police departments have policies that basically say that when you transport someone that you have to buckle them i guess my point about the individual being with the hands in the front so if you have someone whose handcuffs are behind their back which is typical and you seatbelt them in they're stuck there's not much they can do but i was just saying that if someone is handcuffed and the officer didn't buckle her in this time but if someone's handcuffs are in the front and you buckle them in well they could easily just just unbuckle that so i'm curious about for this police department if they had either of those policies or training for police officers about having to buckle people in and where the handcuffs have to be or should be when they are taking someone to jail um so another just another thing on this is that i kind of mentioned it before so because it was obvious that brianna was in a mental health crisis and the charges against her were only misdemeanor charges so did this police department have the option to take her for a mental health evaluation or was jail their only option maybe it's not the fault of the officers or the police department that maybe jail was the only place that she could possibly go but there are a lot of police departments and cities who do allow for individuals to be taken for mental health evaluations when this is the case if that's the case a lot of times police officers are able to call ambulances so it's just you know if we're thinking about how do we avoid something like this in the future what it's not just monday morning quarterbacking it's what could we have done so this doesn't happen to get happen again because what happened is worst case scenario for everyone involved so um i that that's the case that was just really sad um but when it comes to how police officers deal with and handle individuals who are in mental health crisis that is a that is a huge topic and i think this case highlights a lot of those of those issues that law enforcement and police departments can do better um absolutely um and someone commented a minute ago um again on the briana taylor case is that they said didn't her boyfriend shoot first yes so that is what happened so just really quick back on that one what kenneth walker said and it pretty much comports with what the police officer said is that once they entered the house once they entered the apartment kenneth walker said that he thought that someone was robbing them committing a burglary he thought it was somewhat what kenneth walker's saying that brianna's boyfriend is that he thought it was someone committing a crime or or threatening them in some manner he didn't know it was the police so he said that he fired a warning shot and those were his words he fired a warning shot now the shot didn't go in the ceiling it didn't go in the ground it went right into a police officer's leg so we'll never know what's inside of his head if he knew it was a police officer or not or if he was trying to fire a warning shot but yes but he shot one time he hit a sergeant in the leg the sergeant almost bled out and it was at that point that the police officers returned fire and that was the reason why the actual use of force deadly force by police officer in the brian taylor case was reasonable legal and justified tragic but it was reasonable for them to respond in the manner that they did now one of the thing about about mr walker is he didn't have a criminal history so it's not like he had a warrant where so i i guess i'm trying to say is that he has mr walker had no reason to shoot at police officers he didn't have unlike brandon's ex-boyfriend mr walker didn't have a criminal history he was a legal licensed gun owner so he had no reason at being you know 25 28 years old to say you know what today's the day i'm going to shoot at a police officer for absolutely no reason so i mean that to me that that seems to be an unreasonable thing um now it did happen late so what seems like happened it was a mistake effect on behalf of mr walker he shot the police officers but so he wasn't charged he wasn't prosecuted because the d.a believed his believed his story he knows the police officer but it was also reasonable for the police officers to return fire once one of them was shot that's it it just that's reasonable that's one of the times you can absolutely use deadly force is when someone is firing a gun at you um so that was brianna taylor and brianna grier um like i said for the brianna grier for the brianna greer case um i think we did post a link to the body cam so please go please go watch that i think it's an interesting case and i think there could be a lot that comes from it um also this isn't necessarily police related but it's an interesting story that i think a lot of people have opinions on it's the it's the brittany griner case so you know brittany griner uh you know she plays on the wnba basketball which i do not follow i like regular nba basketball but she plays she's one of the best players for in the wnba basketball apparently she plays overseas in russia and what happened is that you know she was about five or six months ago when she was entering russia she was stopped at the airport because she had vape pens with less than an ounce of cannabis oil in them it's completely legal here in the united states i believe it was prescribed by her doctor but severely illegal in russia so she was stopped detained arrested she went to whatever russia's version of a trial is which probably isn't much of a trial but she got nine years in prison uh the max penalty she could have gotten was ten years the prosecutor asked for nine and a half years so she got nine years in prison uh tyrone said uh lucky it wasn't saudi arabia they would have executed her and that's what i and that's the you're 100 right on that so that's what i wanted to to talk about there is that you know listening to and i i covered this on on my channel there were a lot of comments about people saying something to the effect of well if you do the crime you should do the time and i get it listen i'm a law and order guy i think that we need laws but we also need to be reasonable and we should criticize bad ideas so your your the comments about saudi arabia and that's exactly what i was going to say so so you know because you could get your head cut off in saudi arabia because you have less of an ounce of cannabis oil because you can get your head cut off of that for that in saudi arabia does that make it a good idea does that make it reasonable no so we should objectively be able to say yes we know these are the laws but this isn't a good idea and we should be able to question and criticize those bad ideas so something that's legal in the united states um that you can get anywhere there's there's there's vans that roll around in california new york that sell exactly what brittany griner was convicted of in russia so she did get nine years and i know they're trying to do a prisoner swap where she's essentially become a political prisoner had this been a dear had politics been different would her bag have even been checked probably not so yeah obviously this is a political prosecution with what's going on there um one of the people that they're also trying to get back is paul whalen he is a uh a citizen of the united states the uk and ireland he's a former marine he was given 16 years in prison in russia for espionage so i think we're trying to get him back as well also there's an individual named mark fogle who is a 60 year old teacher who has lived in russia with his family for a while teaching english and stuff there and he was convicted in uh uh 2021 for having just about an ounce of of cannabis as well or cannabis oil about a half an ounce of cannabis oil and he was sentenced to 14 years in prison for that so i think all of those people you know we're trying some type of prisoner exchange the people that russia wants back or some pretty um as trump would say bad hombres so um i know there's a lot of opinions going back and forth but and i know that brittany griner you know she was one of the people who was kneeling kneeling during the national anthem and and a lot of us don't like those politics but despite that we should be able to say you know anyone being sentenced to nine years in prison for something this silly is is a bad idea it is it is ridiculous in nature and we'll see what happens my prediction is that she will not do nine years in prison that there will be some type of prisoner swap that we're going to get her back and paul whalen maybe mark fogle and we're going to give russia a couple people who have actually committed some pretty terrible violent crime so um i don't know how fair that prisoner swap will be but that is that is my guess as to what will happen there um so do we have any do we have any any uh any comments let's see uh james says i don't like kneeling for the anthem i was in the military and have a bit more respect for traditions than that yeah james that's a really good that's a really good comment i think a lot of people feel that way um and you know i what i've seen at least a lot like listen to different talk shows and some of the comments and some of the stuff that i've done is that people comment you know we'll be you know you know maybe she'll appreciate america now well well great i i hope that she does i hope she appreciates our system of justice here because it's probably the best one in the entire world but just because she didn't have a full appreciation for it i don't wish anything bad for her and we shouldn't wish for people who might have different political ideas i mean she's still one of us she's still an american she's still on our team even if we don't like some of her ideas the best way to combat those ideas is to um have those ideas in public and put forth better ideas um that's the best way to combat that so um like i'm not sure about the whole prisoner swap thing but i'm anyone who has nine years in jail for that it's a it's a little silly and i don't wish that upon anyone even if i have different ideas on politics than her um and i know i touched on it uh let's see protests let's see oh goodness uh tyrone if you hate america these people should go to north korea or china for the freedom uh yeah there's not a whole lot of freedom in north korea or in or in uh china protests aren't supposed to make you comfortable no protests aren't supposed to make you feel comfortable it's important under the first amendment um you know i think a lot of us just say protest as much as you want don't burn down cities don't burn down private businesses um and do not block highways because it's really annoying but yeah say whatever you want sanitary corners protests i don't think anybody has a problem with that uh let's see uh okay yeah bruce uh taking a knee for the anthem of a country where you have the opportunity is quite a conundrum yeah i mean that's that's that's exactly correct is that you know we have the unlike other countries we have the freedom to take a knee or not um that freedom you know doesn't mean that people have to act in a certain way it's the idea that the idea that people are free to make those decisions that's what's valuable that's what's important that's what's great about the united states let's see um so i know i covered it a little bit last week the case of christopher police sergeant police i know it sounds like i'm saying police i'm not i'm not saying his name right the way you spell it is p-u-l-l-e-a-s-e i think we're going to post a link to the body camera video of this but i touched on it last week but it is in sunrise florida and an individual is and let me set this up a little bit even though we did post the body cam definitely go and check that out because it's pretty it's pretty astonishing body camera i think this happened last fall and essentially what happened here is that an individual is under arrest for all the news said is some type of violent felony who knows what it is but he's standing outside of a police car and he's giving the officers a hard time they're telling him sit in the car sit in the car and they go you can go round around with someone for an hour doing that he's not sitting in the car finally he sits in the car just about the time the individual sits in the police car sergeant police he rolls up on scene and he's coming in hot like this guy this guy is not he's not happy um and he even at this point he goes to the individual who's in the car and he starts screaming yelling at the guy now what probably happened is the and it doesn't show this on body camera but the officers on scene probably put out over the air or they called it or they just called their sergeant sergeant police that hey he's not getting in the car what do you want to do so because the sergeant went there in a really bad mood with this guy for some reason so my guess is you know he had some indication or was called there for some reason either way when he actually walked up to the car the guy was sitting down he was sitting down in the car what the sergeant does is he basically goes into the back seat of the car he leans in he starts screaming at the guy saying you know don't respect my officers he he takes out his oc his mace he threatens to mace the guy then he says something to the effect of you know if you ever disrespect my officers again i'm going to rip your soul from your body so as he's saying that and threatening to the mace the guy who's in handcuffs and complying at this point so all of this happens when the guy is complying maybe he's a bad guy he committed a felony he's given officers a hard time fine but at the time this happened he was complying so police officers have to treat the individual like there's someone who's complying just because someone was a jerk five minutes ago you cannot take it out on them in the moment so as he's doing this there's a three or four other officers standing around then there's a uh a female police officer who's probably about a third of the size of the sergeant as he's screaming and yelling at the guy threatening to mace him she does him a favor she grabs him from the the gun belt in the back and pulls him away he immediately turns around he takes his hand and he puts it on her neck and he pushes her back and um no one else steps in to do anything then he goes back just to get get in one more word and he screams and yells at the guy in the police car one more time and then he yells at her he says i'll see you in my office in a few minutes and then he tells everyone on scene to turn off your body cameras now so that's maybe not the first problem we see with this but anytime that something controversial happens or you're in the moment in something when a police officers give turn off their body cameras in a situation like this and especially when a supervisor orders to um someone to turn up the officers to trump their body camera or something like this like it's never a good look it is it is completely opposite of transparency and what we want from police departments um so the good news is that he was charged he was charged so really right after this happened he was put on admin leave and a outside agency conducted the investigation sergeant police was charged with four four charges two of them felonies battery on a police officer assault on a police officer and also tampering with evidence i think for you know telling the other officers and uh to turn off their body camera so so i did do this on on on my channel i talked about this and a lot of questions came about so i just want to kind of go into this because a lot of these cases aren't just about the facts of the case but the issues that come up come are systematic and they come up in a lot of different cases so if you uh let's see uh james says i think police needs to go easy on the steroids yeah the so everyone watch the body camera footage but you know if you've ever seen breaking bad he looks like hank from breaking bad only you know about a foot taller 100 pounds heavier and on steroids so that's who this guy this guy looks like um but you know a lot of these cases they touch on issues that are bigger than just the individual case and and in some of the comments you know when when i covered the story that's what it went into here is about police officers and body cameras so some of the comments and i really explored this a lot this week is some of the comments is like well you know police officers shouldn't be able to turn off their body cameras why is there even an off button so that's what a lot of people are saying so i just want to go into that a little bit and i'd be really interested to see what anyone here in the chat has to say about that so do you think police officers should be able to turn off their body cameras and even more extreme should body cameras even have an off button so so think about what you're going to say there i'm really curious to see what people's thoughts are um or a mute button that's a really good question a mute button yes we can get into that but one of the things that i think is important to know is that most police departments have body cameras have a policy that covers when police officers have to use their cameras now maybe five ten years ago it was well you know you record if you think something is going to happen but you know we all know situations where someone is being reasonable being cool and then all of a sudden it flips and you know in the moment the police officer thinks they're having a nice contact something happens or someone else rolls up that they don't know is coming and there's a use of force and it's not on camera and you know because it happened quickly it's not the police officer's fault and there wasn't really any violation of policy because it happened so quick so now with a lot of more modern and progressive police departments are doing i think it's actually a good deal essentially the policy reads something to the effect of all citizen contact has to be recorded so if you're on a call if you're on a traffic stop you don't just record if you think something's going to happen or you think you're gonna make an arrest no if you're having citizen contact on a call now if you go into a gas station and you buy a coke or a monster now you don't have to record that but if you're on any kind of official law enforcement duty you record and that's pretty much easy you know if you're going to a call for service the policy says start your camera before you exit the car so these are probably at least from the management of a police department side that's probably the best thing for them to do um anyway so so but so i think that's a way to fix this and if officers violate that policy you can go ahead and deal with that but to say they shouldn't have an off button doesn't make a lot of sense so just think about it this way so police officers police officers they have to use the bathroom they get a lunch break so what if they're working out on a lunch break and they're at the subposition at the gym you want them to record the whole time that they're working out how about if they're in between calls and they're right and they're writing a police report um that doesn't seem reasonable also this is the very practical aspect of how much data for the servers would they be if every police officer recorded every minute of a shift so it just it just wouldn't make sense for taxpayers to pay for all of that data and storage so it probably wouldn't even be possible but if you think about it this way too in in an era where it's so hard to recruit police officers and i know i said we're talking about portland but really it's about seattle so right now seattle police officers if anyone wants to go be a seattle cop i think they're offering incentives up to thirty thousand dollars to be just an incentive just to get on hired at seattle police department so everywhere even good not that isn't a good police department but you know places where people want to work are having a difficult time recruiting and retaining good qualified reasonable police officers so now it's competitive all these agencies want the same you know good decent officers imagine one of these departments says hey all day long your whole shift you have to record if you could be in between a call writing a report maybe your husband or wife calls calls for a few minutes all of the all of that's recorded when you're in the bathroom when you're at the gym so can you imagine any reasonable police officer who has the option to to work another place who would work in an environment like that pretty much nobody nobody reasonable would and it's not that you want to hide anything you can still have policies that say record all citizen contact but the idea that if i'm in between calls and i'm writing a report and my buddy's sitting next to me that i have to record our entire conversa like again this isn't if you're trying to if there were thousands of people who wanted a few cop jobs yeah you can have all the unreasonable policies you want people to take those jobs that isn't the reality now so so i just from a recruitment and a retention standpoint for police officers that doesn't make a whole lot of sense uh let's see um let's see if we got some other comments on that i'm sure people have said a lot of things yeah james agrees uh data storage yes um uh yeah data storage is definitely definitely an issue uh serial killer that's a great name uh i would never want to be a cop this day and age yeah i think that's what that's what a lot of a lot of people say is that it's a it's a difficult time to be a police officer um but doing things like having a body camera make sure that you run your body camera while you're having citizen contact all of that stuff can definitely help protect you as a police officer uh ego 10 okay unless they're on our tax dollars they're on film and being held accountable okay i'm not sure exactly let's see they need to require more train more and get paid way more i agree okay so i like where the ego 10 i like where that's going so that's what people say you know we need better cops we need more educated police officers they need more training they need this they need this i agree but a lot of times and obviously ego 10 doesn't think that which is good but a lot of times they say and we have to they criticize the police of all these things and we have to defund the police okay well that doesn't make any sense all of these things you're asking for to make police departments and police officers better things that we all agree with yes we all want this they all cost money they all cost more money so better police officers better training better equipment crisis intervention units uh that can go out to these calls so the crazy uh cases like brianna grier maybe agree or maybe don't happen yes all of that is more expensive so we need more funding for reasonable things to make police departments uh better james ortiz i'd be a cop the pay is good starting at 40k yeah um starting at 40k yeah you know what i um i mean there's a lot of police like i said so seattle police if you want to go be a seattle cop they'll give you a 30 000 bonus and without overtime i know the cost living there is high i get it but you know you'll probably start out somewhere around 80 000 a year i have one of my good friends i went to law school with is a police he's actually an assistant police chief in a small town in texas and he makes less than twenty dollars an hour so um you know police department salaries um they they vary widely um uh depending upon where you go so those are really the the the cases that i wanted to talk about this week that i thought that were important um there are a couple other cases that i know i asked last week hey if you have a case put it put it in the chat so i just wanted to um only cops um if you guys don't follow the only cops channel please please go do that they are they are put out awesome content the only cop says you can make 40 000 working the warehouse at costco without all the that makes sense yes you probably can i don't know yeah uh yes that's that's a that's a very reasonable very reasonable comment you absolutely absolutely can um but i know that i put in the i um someone put in the comments there's a case um police officer by the last name of cox c-o-x and i can't remember what state it was in but there was a shooting the officer went there and detained the individual outside of a bar so i can't remember who said it i told him i would look into that case and i am there's been some conflicting information on that and the body camera just came out so i am looking into that one i will have that one for you next week with some some some reasonable um information opinions on it so if you have any other um things that cases that you want us to talk about put it in the chat because it's something that we definitely look at and if it's an interesting case it's definitely something that we want to get out to you uh let's see uh egoten can we talk about a border patrol agent uh let's see uh border patrol agent who murdered his neighbor's dog um so i remember hearing about that in the news but i haven't done a deep dive on that so yeah let me let me look into that for for next week blue pepper says what amazes me most the u.s has body cameras europe has none three years of education and has uh no police violence uh so i wouldn't say they have no i don't i don't like the term police violence um i can get into that different day but you know a use of force by by police officers so there definitely is use of force by police officers in europe um i'm most familiar with some of the stuff that's going on in britain um in in the united kingdom you know they those officers only certain officers carry guns not all of them carry guns i think they have tasers i just saw a case recently in britain where there was an individual who was having a mental health crisis and they tried to tase him the taser didn't work and as they were trying to it did work finally the taser actually did work and while the individual was under power they didn't handcuff him right away after the five second jolt from the taser he got up and he went and he jumped off a bridge and killed himself so so there are issues with with police in in other places but um um you have to look at it this way is that the violence and the murder rate in a lot of these countries and the access to citizens having firearms and use those firearms against police officers aren't the same so that the danger isn't isn't as great um let's see uh james ortiz 40 years ago they paid cost minimum wage seven dollars an hour yeah i don't know who would do that do that now but uh but yes absolutely absolutely uh yeah and knife attacks are on the rise in europe so they have they do have that they do have that problem there um so again so those are the cases that i thought were interesting that i wanted to talk about this week um if you have any other questions and comments put it in there and like i said you know definitely let us know if there are any interesting cases throughout the week that you want to um put in there um and and again some of the case we talked about today we did put the body cams out there so go and watch for yourself and you know if you have questions we can readdress them next week otherwise i do want to tell everyone to have a nice weekend have a nice and safe weekend please subscribe to the copwatch tv channel and so you know exactly when we're doing this we do this every friday and you can go follow me at police law news and that's it have a good night you
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