that's why
it comes on of course they're on
to film this
you could no it is good this guy's a
[ __ ] weirdo sir sure we're not gonna
ask you anything right now
negative you got my weapon make sure you
chamber it
because it is still chambered
anybody else here
this is your house this is my house I
just I'm just asking you these questions
trying to make the scene
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if I was going to cut it off I had a
couple of cones so this is your house
this is my house that's your truck
that's not my truck that's not I don't
know who him or that truck is okay he
can't threatening my life I gave him a
warning don't don't okay I won't say
[ __ ] don't say [ __ ] anyway let me uh
I'll just I'll just wait for a lawyer
how's that that's up to you sir
I'm not I'm not I know we we the only
the only questions the only questions I
asked sir all right if this is your
house
and if that's your car
and nobody else is here no one okay I
got my wife
read him his rights
um
and then we'll secure
yeah
you're not being arrested what are the
rights being read for though that's a
little backwards to protect you okay
and nobody else is here okay
what am I being arrested
so this is because anybody's going to
ask you questions we have to remind you
of your rights
questions
let me let me read this to you first and
then yeah okay
what is your name Joseph Gonzalez you
have the right to remain silent anything
you say Canon will be used against you
in a court of law you have the right to
talk to an attorney for advice before we
ask you any questions and to have an
attorney with you during questioning
if you cannot afford to an attorney one
will be appointed to you by the state of
New Mexico free of charge before any
questioning if you wish if you decide to
answer questions now without an attorney
present you will still have the right to
stop answering at any time you also have
the right to stop answering at any time
to talk to an attorney
do you want to talk to me today
if you have questions
I don't have any questions or I mean I
have a million questions I do too I
don't know who this guy have a million
this has just happened to me too so
believe it I called you guys
thank you for for being so cooperative
82 me yeah I was I was going to stay in
the house I knew you guys gonna do this
[ __ ] I could have waited till the
detectors if I went out on the gate lock
but I was out and greeted you and I get
put in the car
sorry I'm gonna put my foot against your
tire and stretch my hand all right don't
worry about it it's better than the curb
no I was [ __ ] pulling a hamstring
[ __ ] in there dude this [ __ ] suck
did you hear me I was trying to stretch
it out
thank you [ __ ]
ing early for this [ __ ]
we had an earlier call did you guys yeah
this is I mean I feel bad for someone to
end your life I've got so many pets it's
on [ __ ] real
I'm not gonna take that chance ever
again
we uh they're almost here and like I
said once they determine stuff
they're like that why shouldn't be put
in here I don't mind hanging out with
you guys in class but [ __ ] to be in the
back of a car can I can you ask yourself
I stand back here but back to your car
not looking at anything would that be
all right as long as I could stand well
he's actually the one I told us too
that's what I'm saying I said ask him I
know what he told you but if I stood
back here with you guys would that be
okay or he told us to keep you here in
the car that's really awesome
Lindsay is he LT on his way he should be
can you call him say I'm calling him
yeah I'll ask my sergeant yeah
okay
you're the one telling her to do all
this won't you tell me
what she's about to explain to me you
won't call your LT I saw you tell her no
I want your LT here I don't want to talk
to you you're biased towards me dude
you've been since I met you so you came
here and you're fatigued at one time
acting like a badass I remember you dude
for what I'm a victim that's all I'm I'm
not mad at you I just want to talk to
you I know it's not procedure I'm a
victim someone came and threatened my
life you put me in the back of a car
with handcuffs you're a dick dude you
are bro so give them to my wife they're
my wife's Keys okay if you give them to
my wife I'll you you're gonna go take
them to her
yeah we'll go just go take a tour those
ain't house keys those are not house
keys oh we need the house I don't have
house keys oh okay does she have the
house this is it's a great model to it
there's no there's no lock on there
those are those are the trucks without
you
all right
that's her keys that's her vehicle those
are her keys I'm telling you okay those
aren't my keys
toilet truck that's in there silver
Truck those are her keys those are the
keys for the truck there's no house keys
on it okay that's what if you see the
keys a little key that that little deck
yeah these are the Chevy those are for
all the the trailer like blocks that I
have okay okay
no just for the trailer oh the truck
it's almost the truck keys that's only
truck keys for God
and then how much longer do I got to
step back here sergeant
I'm just saying I could stand out here
with you guys dude I'm not being a dick
I've been Cooperative I could have
stayed in my house and waited I made a
bigger deal but I did it I greeted you
guys and you're treating me like a damn
[ __ ] that's not right bro man I have
not done you didn't ask me one question
you turned me around and put cuss on me
you didn't even press me when I pulled
my phone out to put in my front pocket
she took it from me none of you first me
and took my phone out why
why don't you just I uh I was calm you
guys pissed me off let me answer your
question
all right you should be getting
interviewed pretty soon
all right but it takes time I know but
it sucks I feel like I don't mind
sitting back here sorry we want to have
him watch me if you give me that thought
I'm cool bro I shouldn't be in the back
book I feel like a damn freaking we're
not trying to make you feel that way I'm
telling you how I feel I know I
understand I just got my life threatened
yeah there's a gentleman laying dead and
it's very serious but you guys aren't
treating it serious you treated me like
I'm a dick and I'm not bro these guys
keep coming over here
we are not cheating remember when I told
you that when you had your
I'm just saying this not today this was
this was months ago when you came
I had talked to you before
no dude yeah
how long have you been with them what
the sheriff's department for my 15 years
exactly you were here I have videos here
I got your videos
different bro sorry my bad and he didn't
do snuff either okay all right I get it
no he's the other I've I've been
respected man I have too and I told you
that you don't want to say too much
right now because I'm not saying nothing
I just said this guy came threatened my
life this is what happened I understand
and you guys need to know that but you
guys didn't ask what happened you said
turn around because we're just that's
procedure sir I'm being honest with you
I understand but for someone let's see
how you treat a victim like this every
victim gets
cut anybody who's standing in front of a
body that is not alive anymore standing
in front of him I greeted you guys I
opened my game came out when you guys
pulled down the street okay you saw that
well maybe you didn't I didn't but
that's what happened I'm telling you I
waited for I called you we've been cool
with you that's why you're standing here
I know dude that's what I'm saying I
just sucks because I did get a cramping
I'm not trying to like if I'm going to
jail take this shot you're not going to
jail right you know what I'm saying I'd
rather do that if I could sit you're
gonna have to be interviewed but
everybody has to get interviewed I got
you but I'm just not being a dick this
is a serious you're not no but I'm
telling you these guys are [ __ ] weird
man I don't know who these guys are I
don't know I don't know that's what I'm
saying can I ask you a question it's not
it's not like a criminal question go
ahead what I'm asking is just just for
seeing preservation what did anything
else happen other than right in front of
your house nothing went into my house
everything was outside of my house
nothing there's no warrant that should
be because this all helped in on County
property
what I'm saying is anything on the
street
anywhere but right here
is there going to be evidence anywhere
else on the street
how would there be if just everything
happened right because I wasn't here man
I showed you where the shells you did
you did There's you could see we're all
okay so that answers it it's enough no
okay perfect the only thing everything
will answer every one of your questions
so I'll give you that video
that's awesome that's because I'm not
being sick I'm being honest dude like I
don't know this guy I even
I don't let me tell you this if someone
comes to any right this is just hearsay
I'm not I'm not saying the same on
record this ain't if someone concentrate
in your life all right
what are you gonna do
let's say you give them a learning shot
and he sits there and says I'm gonna
[ __ ] kill you what are you gonna do
after a warning shot you're a trained
Sergeant I've been trained eight years
in the military I'm an infantry man
you're talking an infantry man so we're
talking we're just talking infantry well
thank you for your service well thank
you
I appreciate the support this great
support
hey I got you I'm not mad and I don't
mind policy but what would you do this
is not this oh this isn't outside of
this outside all this yeah personally it
is it is your right to defend your
yourself and your property thank you
you're right thank you that's all I
wanted to hear because that's what I do
that's all I do all right
this ain't like some
this is this is just as weird to you as
it is to me it just happened I called
you guys I'm I don't know this
gentleman's name I don't know who the
[ __ ] he is I don't know where he came
from I don't know why he was training me
all right
he just did it and then when I call you
guys
for help yeah I get tough to put in the
back of a car no it's not not every
victim gets treated like you know they
don't though not everything what was
that teacher if I was Sabrina if you
guys wouldn't have I don't know who that
is Serena no Sabrina oh she would
absolutely be cuffed she would you we
can't trust anybody we don't you know
that oh my God I tell her take it you
know oh absolutely you've been pretty
damn cooperative and I was gonna [ __ ]
I was gonna Zone it out because I know
it's a crime scene but you guys got here
pretty quick I'm glad you didn't because
we got to do that you know well I'm glad
I didn't tell us just waiting for you
guys to get here that's the perfect
thing and you called us and that was the
perfect thing to do man you know what I
know
if it was me not
it makes it for somebody else it's okay
but it makes it a lot less suspicious
that you called us that you were
Cooperative that so it should be an
interview man I think there's nothing
special
exactly
there's it's not too it's very simple I
don't know this gentleman
I gave him a warning shot he went back
to his truck to get God knows what he
probably shouldn't talk sir not right
now I don't know I just don't know what
he's doing I don't know what he's doing
in that truck I get it
I don't either I I couldn't tell you I
don't know either of you I know yeah
exactly I don't know I know a couple of
your officers but I don't know you
personally you know yeah
you buy some property
you got to deal with a lot of things
I never thought you'd have to deal with
[ __ ] thank you
I wish that he could get a hold of his
name for that video
we will
call and I'll be interrupted to the
Criminal video
talking
yeah
five dollars gets wrapped up what's
happened after the initial detective
meeting all that other stuff that we do
more do you choose
um unless there's questions about it you
know what I mean it raises
yeah if they do or they forgot to ask if
something else evidence doesn't match up
with what's saying
whatever but I mean like you said it
seems pretty simple
um
this is you guys have paperwork once you
leave and if I go to jail whatever the
case is my kids my grandkids my wife's
still here
I understand you know and where's their
protection then
we're 24 7. so
still took you guys five mics to get
here
you know what I'm saying is what
happened within seconds
like you get what I'm saying yes I do
you know I'm not I'm not I'm not being a
dick I know I know I'll pick it up yeah
you're talking to a trained man do you
know what I mean yeah I understand and
then seconds that's what happens no
second split seconds I know
so what happens if I'm not here protect
them again and then another one of these
weirdos come on
well so you got a nice nice fence here I
know I need to put a cement fence
I'm gonna you know my our old house me
and my wife's desert I'm gonna go down
in each way all right okay they try to
kill us so many times
let my house on fire just documented
them just because of my little brother
who he was yeah we got we got [ __ ]
ridiculed for for the [ __ ] that the
media put out and I had to pay where me
and my wife had to pay for it every
[ __ ] day
they took me to the court tried to say I
was some [ __ ] dangerous person now
look this is just going to solidify what
the da said
what um
what was your name Joseph Joseph what's
on this you know what Victoria Martin's
case Fabian that's where I met you
that's what I'm telling you at the court
yes that's what I meant but we had like
an hour conversation that's it I
mistaked you from the other guy because
he was you should I have the video I'll
show you you'll see why
and you probably know the dude you know
his attitude when you see him you'll be
like God damn it I wouldn't I wouldn't
you wouldn't
gig me for coming at you the way I did
no if you saw who he was and you
probably know the way he is now now I
remember that when we talked yes yes now
yeah that's where I met you from the
courthouse yes yeah you were doing
chicken yeah I was working some overtime
yeah you were doing overtime I do
remember that's me now now you see
you see how this trickles over from that
[ __ ] no I'm telling you this is all from
that [ __ ] you think so
I don't know I don't know my house on
mass desert different property that's
why I moved here because I could put a
fence and keep us safe yeah on an HOA
it's open you and anyone could walk in
so my house they drove by with shotguns
lit it all up my son used to sleep in
the front room
so then if I could shot that he wasn't
staying there at the time he was in Cali
they lit my house on fire twice while we
were inside it 4 am in the morning
crazy
no it happened it's it's documented it's
wild
I had this guy over here they scaled
some he got on just land
he'll have paper right next to me and
he's already threatened my life multiple
detention
because I was building a fence
I think what it is is I just threw a
monkey wrench in their little outfit
yeah I do remember you now should I you
would probably feel like an [ __ ] dude
sorry dude it happens
I just you know a little heightened
emotions I get it I'm getting cuffed I'm
like dude I [ __ ] got threatened I
know I'm not the I'm the one breathing
still but [ __ ] I'm not I'm not the bad
guy I know man but I'm telling you if it
was your wife or anybody else we'd have
to do that's just
it's definitely not getting better right
now that's [ __ ] like this happens this
world is getting nutty and I'm telling
you this is just all this did is make
just I'm in fear
now why don't I mean just a question bro
because we're shooting uh why do you
live here dude like why don't you move I
know that's hard easier said than done
right
I don't okay I'm gonna answer that but
I'm gonna ask you one question that I'll
answer
where did you grow up brother
Albuquerque what part of town just
Albuquerque Albuquerque is a good
regardless where you grew up but I mean
no it I'm telling you there's some rough
places but I grew up by the City
Fairgrounds Southeast
you've seen a lot of running as well all
right yeah I grew up here
ride myself that way I grew up right
down Biola okay right down the road my
wife grew up on belly
we bought this is right between where we
met bro
I don't want to run is your question I
could around I I had plenty I could make
500 000 on this property I paid 1564. I
have more than every reason to run
but what does that show my grandkids or
kids that you run from every little
situation
that's where I'm that's that's my battle
that's your question that's I'm battling
it too brother I should already have
been gone in that case after I testified
I had I already had buyers for this
house I was selling everything
and then I had to sit there and think
and then my grandkids were coming they
were having fun on the property it's
[ __ ] tears me up bro it does it tears
me up because what do I do run and show
them that their grandpa runs or their
father runs
my oldest son's a marine going to Japan
been serving for six years my
grandfather was a [ __ ] World War II
vet I'm a vet my son's a paramedic with
AMR right now I got an 11 year old in
school right now do I show them how to
run
what is it is it running is it I've been
it's hard don't tell you don't know
until you put in that position I'm
telling you you just don't know it's
hard right
because these are things that you
once you're put with that [ __ ]
decision it's a lot harder to [ __ ]
overcome the natural thing I'm sure but
is it worth it this isn't working now
I'm thinking like maybe we should just
[ __ ] put foreign
that's what's gonna happen you know
where I am
scared I'll be laying there or someone
else
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the stupid ones that are easy
whoa
whoa whoa
who who
are I think
teenagers
oh
yeah I heard the temples on the radio
I don't know what he had in that shirt
like I said I don't know what's in there
it's like a brown bag and stuff in there
I don't know what he's reaching for
whoa whoa
oh
Jackson
go lay down
Jackson go lay down boy you ain't doing
nothing wrong dude
should I wear skin or what's up what'd
you guys call trying to call him too I
heard I'm trying to get a hold of Tom
Skinner I wish he was
his son's a charity in the sheriff's
department really
you know what Skinner
I know Elvis
yeah yeah
well his pop lives over here that's his
problem his mommy okay he gets his
typhoon with Mama
no Skinner's a good
day
ask him about he'll tell you about the
vandalizing my house over there yeah I'm
telling you right now if he didn't do
[ __ ] and Manny did he put his detectives
on for me
[ __ ] and they had all kinds of cameras
and they wouldn't give none of the
footage
so we moved then but this is this is
already scary because look it's
happening again
I have a buffer but it's not that far
that's 20 feet of a buffer from that
house you know
a few of them
dude they're just waiting for a judge
we all know what's going on but
well I mean I think they're gonna
eventually have to
do a couple search Once
just policy no yeah nothing went on over
there
for the for the footage
oh horns for these guys but I mean so
for this part it didn't happen another
property but right there everything
happened there because there's video
proven it yeah you gotta see that video
man I'll call Sal once I get my phone
he'd be more than happy to get in the
video yeah oh he's a good dude that's
good
I'm gonna get something to cover that
day
no
that's how these guys are done yeah
because either way we got to make sure
you know
fire Squad here
I ain't got a platoon back there bro
it was just me
actually that's even her phone too I
don't know my name
that was another thing I was going to
tour at home she paid the phone again
so after all this case man I just wanted
to just go fishing
please it's
clear your head you gotta recenter dude
you got him man and then with [ __ ] like
this it just never stops
everything is louder down here
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thank you
hi
oh nothing how are you
oh you're good
for century 21.
thank you
one of these come on
um yeah I spoke to your wife she told me
about them too once they um
right now
if there's one available
between the parents and students from
them
254 is correct and you can stack me that
21st
I wish it was that easy
ninja
they wrote the numbers
which one this one I guess
there we go all right oh you want to get
these now or um I'm gonna wait for him
and then once he gets here
he said he was close though so
oh
sorry didn't know you were right there
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I apologize for that man I'm sorry it
took me a second to get here
what's up I saw you hiding in that
corner no not hardly I can't tell you if
you waited for me to talk to her I saw
you okay it's okay let's get this over
here
all right what's your name
my name is no you're fine no don't even
worry about it
so I'm not the primary Keys
um
no it's it's to the officers discretion
and that's well not necessarily
people they have to be again that's just
the issue once they're in the back they
have to be in handcuffs
multiple terms to get reports I've never
been here with handcuffs when we're
transporting people
I've talked with detectives not once
have I came in here okay this is the
first man who came in here to talk to
the detectives with us okay I know I'm
not equivalent
to me I was threatened someone during my
life that's why we're here I shouldn't
be treated like we're going on very very
pissed about that no and I can see that
I can see that you're okay that's the
only reason I'm pissed off no that's
understandable those other than that an
issue that happened we can square that
away that's a simple issue someone
threat my life and I have the right to
protect myself bottom line other than
that can I get some water please yeah of
course yes
when you're cool you don't need a
bathroom or anything I might need it
here in a bit Yeah okay no sleep no I
get it man
um just because I know it's gonna be a
couple hours you guys want to watch this
yeah
whatever you guys want to plan or to do
what you want to do let's get it done of
course why waste that I apprecially fire
my friend so let me uh get some more
yeah let me get you some water let me
get everything squared away let me get
in contact with the primary occasions
to proceed from here okay appreciate you
appreciate you man thank you for your
patience
yeah let me see what the