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How you doing? >> How's it going? >> Hey, Jared Flynn. What's your name? >> Uh, Mr. Miller. >> Here. How you doing today? >> Well, it depends. >> To be determined. So, look. So, I come to talk to you and ask you a few questions. All right. >> All right. Do you have any idea why I'd be here? >> No, not really. >> No idea? >> No. >> None whatsoever. >> All right. Hey puppy. >> I come to ask you a couple questions. I'm going ask you a few questions. I'm going to read you your rights. All right. Do you have any weapons or knives on you? Guns, anything like that? Nothing on you? Good to go. >> All right. So, here's something I'm going to read. >> What's this about first? >> Well, he's going to explain it, but he's got to read you your rights so you understand them. >> All right. I'm just going to start with this. That way, we're on the clear. All right. >> Okay. Make a phone call. >> No, >> not right now. We're going to talk to you first. >> We're going to talk to you first. All right. All right. All right. So, you have the right to remain silent right attorney question attorney for questions. >> With these rights in mind, do you wish to speak to me now? >> I said I don't know what y'all are here for. >> Okay. So, like I said, I you know, there's no reason why you think I'd be here. >> No. >> Okay. Um, so I'm a fishing I'm in >> I know y'all are >> I'm fishing wildlife. All right, cool. So, basically, I'm gonna ask you a few questions. All right. I know the answer already. I just want I'm just going to be upfront and honest with you. I want you to be up front and honest with me back. All right. >> Okay. Make sense? >> Okay. >> All right. Here's the deal. How many alligators do you have in your swimming pool? >> I don't have none. My ex-girlfriend's friend put two of them in there. I've been trying to get a hold of y'all and I keep getting different numbers to call. >> So, there's two alligators in your swimming pool right now. >> I did not put them in there. I can give you the person's name who put them in there. You >> want to go take a look at them? >> Yeah. >> Well, we'll follow you. I didn't put them in there. I've been trying to get a hold of you all for >> Is there anybody else home right now in the house? >> No, the only friend moved out. >> That's okay. >> And her friend Dylan Dylan Anderson put him in there. >> Okay. >> I don't know where he was living at. >> I kicked him out. I found out what he done. >> Okay. Get in trouble for this. >> And by find out what he done, what do you mean by that? >> When he when I walked back here to my pool and seen what was in there. >> Okay. How long have they been in here for? >> Yeah, I kicked them out probably about two and a half months ago. >> Every time I call you all, try to get a hold of you guys. There's one down there. Every time I try to get a hold of you guys, it keeps giving me different numbers to call. Every time I call the numbers, I leave messages and can't get nowhere. >> Okay, >> there's another one in here somewhere. I don't know where it went, but there's two of them in here. >> All right, so how long have they been in here? There's the other one. They've been in here probably about two and a half, three months. Every time I call, I leave messages trying to get a hold of you guys and can't get nowhere beyond that. Nobody called me back. >> So, when did a puppy? So, when Okay, I see them both now. >> Yeah, they're both >> So, when did these get put into your They've been here. They've been in here two and a half, three months. >> Yes, somewhere around there. Yes. >> Okay. And then how long And you said who put them in here? >> Uh, a guy named Dylan. And you said that was how is he related to you? >> He's a friend of my ex-girlfriends >> that was staying here when I got out of jail. >> Okay. So, how long does she live here now? >> No, she does not. She got moved out and everything like that already. >> So, >> she lives in town somewhere. >> Gotcha. Um, >> last I knew Dylan was somewhere around Ocala. He came from uh his cousin's house that was out here off of 314. right there behind Newbie's Corner. >> So, how long has she been moved out for? >> She's been moved out for about January. She was already gone in January. >> So, you've had these alligators here since January. >> That I don't know. I know about two and a half, three months that I know of cuz that's when he was here and she came out for a couple months about a month to visit because I got out and we've been trying to work on how to get her son back. >> Okay. How are these alligators still alive? Because it is August now. >> I don't >> I'm not >> I don't want nothing to do with them. Like I said, I've been trying to get a hold of your owner's office and they keep giving me a different number and every time I call, I leave a message trying to get somebody to return back. >> You've been calling us multiple times. Why did you not know that why we were here? >> Yeah. >> I don't know why y'all are here. Just I just totally slipped my mind up about them being in here. >> Okay. So, you do know that these are illegal to have in your pool. >> Yeah, that's why I've been trying to call you all to come out here because I don't want to get in trouble for this. >> You have any proof that you're following us like on phone? Maybe miss like calls that we can back up to? >> Yeah. Call records or anything like that? >> It'll help you out if you have. >> Most of my stuff I always go through and wipe out because I got my own business. Okay. >> So, I'm always getting phone calls coming in and out. >> So, who would have a record that you called us? What number have you been calling? the uh whatever I found there online for the FWC. >> You don't just step back one foot so you don't drop your phone in the pool, man. >> I didn't worry about that. Okay. >> You'd be surprised. I've I've seen people do sillier things. Don't want you to drop your phone, especially if that's got the numbers you were calling on it. >> Would you mind searching the phone number that you've called to see if one pops up? Like I said, I'm just trying to help you out at this point. >> Right. And now I understand now I'm about to go to jail for something that I didn't do. >> No. No one No one ever said you're going to jail. I I know how this works. That's why we're here. >> Look, we're trying to I've been >> I started right up front. >> I don't want to go to jail for I didn't do I can give you the person's Facebook profile and everything. >> I I mean, I started right up front with you. Is if you're telling me the truth, we can sort this out. We can figure this out, >> sir. >> If that is the truth. >> I'm telling you the truth 100%. >> It is not certain that you're going to jail, by the way. Just don't don't get caught up on that. Like I said, I can give you the person's Facebook page and everything that stuck them in here. >> It's one of the reasons why he got kicked out. >> How long ago? How long have they been in this pool? >> About two and a half, three months that I know of. >> Do you feed them? >> No, I don't want nothing to do with them. >> Nobody feeds them? >> I don't know. There is a couple little fish that's swimming in here, but that's about it. I don't want nothing to do with them. I don't feed them. I don't even come back to this pool. I've been trying to get a hold of you guys to come out. Well, that that's >> I'll just be 100% off. Like I said, I'm being 100% honest with you. >> 100% honest, too, sir. >> So, >> I have nothing to lie about. I I don't want nothing to do with I don't want them in my pool. I want to fix my pool back up. >> I hear you. >> I had a turtle in here at one time, but I wound up taking him out and that's why the logs are in here because I had a turtle in here at one time. >> Gotcha. >> Cuz that was before I went to jail. >> Gotcha. >> Back in January. I just we respond to several calls a day, right, >> of people call us for you name it, we've gotten called for it. Bag of trash in the woods, people building on a lot of goss. Everyone seems to find a way to get a hold of us. >> So, >> and I've been trying I've called several times, buff messages cuz here's the person that put them in there. >> Okay. Do you have anything that shows that he took them and put them in there? Any text message conversations? Anything? Why are these alligators in my pond? >> No, I don't talk to him on Facebook. >> Any pictures? >> How do you How do you talk to him? >> I don't. >> This is a friend of my ex-girlfriend. >> So, have you ever asked >> I can I can contact him? Yes. >> Have you ever asked anybody to get these alligators out of your pond? >> I asked him several times to take them out >> via in person while he was here. >> Does he live? Where does he live? He lives uh last I knew he was staying somewhere at his cousin's house off 314 over there behind Newbie's Corner. >> Okay. Are y'all are you friends with him >> somewhat? >> Can you get him on the phone? So that that being >> What did you say his name was? >> Dylan. >> He probably ain't going to say nothing. He's go act dumb cuz he's been in jail for a while. He's in and out. >> All you have to do is ask him say, "Hey man, when are you going to come get these gators?" on speaker phone and then if he does say he put them in there, right, we can we can work through this. It's hitting the red button on you, >> right? I got you. Who else would know who you have? No pictures, no text message conversations, no nothing about, hey, get the alligator out of my pool. >> No, cuz he was here when I was telling to get him out. Then I finally kicked the out because I got tired of them coming in here with drugs and like that. >> Okay. >> I'm trying to get my kids back cuz right now my kids are at my mom's house because of everything that happened back in January. >> So is there anything you can show me today that shows anything that you can show me like proof that you've tried to contact us or that you did not put these out? >> Like I said, I keep deleting all my stuff because I own my own business. I rebuild hydraulics. >> Okay. Soy clear my phone out because >> hydraulic lines or rams? >> Both. >> Both. I got a hydraulic >> shot. Gotcha. Um, let me see that name real quick. >> Dylan, >> like I said, last I know he lived over off was staying at his cousins over there off of a 314. Okay. >> Right there behind Newbie's corner. >> And then now, do you care if we walk around and just look around while we're here? Is that fine with you? >> Do you have any other critters other than the I saw the turtles in the pond out there, but >> turtles out front? >> Any other alligators? baby ones. >> I don't even want these in here. I want my pull back. >> Okay, we can go and look down by your pond. We can look around. That's fine with you. I got it. >> Okay. >> I'm going to push back on you a little bit though, bud. I I think you're >> Yes. Um the first thing out of your mouth when he asked you if you know why we're here, if you would have been being honest with us, you would have said you're probably here about the alligators. >> They They're not even in my mind cuz I don't pay I don't want nothing to do with them. They're not mine. I don't want them. I don't want to get in trouble for something I didn't do. >> But when >> you understand Do you understand where I'm coming from? When a when a fish and wildlife officer knocks on your door >> and you have alligators in your pool, you should have made that connection. And I know you did. So, you were you were deceiving us a little bit there. >> No, sir. I tried not to mess with you all because I know how you all are. I always deal with FWC whenever I'm out fishing and stuff like that. I'm up front and honest that yes, it just slipped my mind on why you over here >> because I don't want nothing to do with them. I have no I don't even walk around that thing >> because I know they're in there. I don't want to get attacked. >> Well, listen, man. We've got to connect the dots here. We need to know >> who pulled these alligators and when. It's not the crime of the century, you know what I mean? But we have a job to do. We need to explain where they came from and who's responsible for it. They >> probably came out of this lake back here. because this is the only lake really around. >> No, that sounds believable, man. Because that looks exactly most likely like what happened. Um >> that was I cleaned up the beach and everything when I had a bobcat here not that long ago. >> But the way the way things stand right now, >> you are the only one that we have that's in possession of them. So, >> we need you to help us >> get him here. >> Get him on the phone. Get him here. >> I can try to get him here. I don't know if I can get one of y'all's cards to where I can call you back when I can have him here and arrange him to be here >> because he just seen I just tried calling him and he >> I can go probably my ex to see about having >> Do we have his info >> his uh >> he might have give his phone number >> or his address? >> I got his Facebook message. >> Robert, can I be honest with you about something? Like I told you, man. When when this officer asked you why do you think we're here stop playing on your phone for just a second because I want to be sure you're listening to me please when he asked you why do you think we're here FWC Fish and Wildlife officers in your front yard you know you have two alligators in your pool in your backyard >> that was an opportunity for you to show us good faith and be honest with us right >> like I said I don't pay no attention to them >> I understand no I don't think you do >> yes sir I understand you're right I should have said hey maybe because of these my point. Let me make my point. Like you you miss an opportunity to show us that you can be trusted and that you're going to be honest with us. >> Okay? Whether it was deliberate or it slipped your mind, right? So, here's a second opportunity with that not so long ago killed alligator sitting in your front yard. I don't buy for a second that you don't know how that got there or how that alligator died. So, please person that had that put them two in there. Remember, he said he came here knowing answers to questions and it was your opportunity to be honest. >> So, help us help you because here's here's the deal, dude. You can either get put in handcuffs and go to jail tonight or you can help us and be honest with us a little bit. And I promise you, it goes a long way. It goes a long way cuz we I know you've had a rough road and you're trying to get your life back on track. >> Don't let that derail it. You know what I mean? So, how did that alligator die? I don't know. I don't. I'm being 100% honest. >> You're not. No, you're not. >> Yes, I am. >> How How How is there an If there was an alligator head in my yard, I would know how I got there. >> The same person that put them in there. >> Smell it. >> When When's How long ago was he here? I think you said it's been a couple months. >> I kicked him out. He put them in there probably about two or three months ago. >> I just kicked him out maybe >> last month. The month before. >> Location is terrible. Hey, >> skin is still floppy on it. It's not even hard and dried. >> Well, listen. Even if Let me back up. I think you might have the wrong idea. Even if you killed it, >> that can be understood. You've got little dogs. You live on a lake. Gator tail tastes good. I just need >> I just need some honesty from you, dude. cuz I don't buy for a second that you've got two alligators in your pool, forgot they were there, and now you have a dead alligator in your backyard and have no idea how it got here. >> So, you're you are tempting us to just stop talking to you and take you to jail. I'm us standing here talking to you with you not in handcuffs is us being nice. >> Okay. Now, let me ask one question. >> If I did kill that one because of my dogs and my 20 cats, what would that happen? Am I going to jail? >> It would mean that you're being honest with me, which goes a long way. >> Am I going to go to jail? Then >> I need you to be honest with me. We'll make that determination there cuz we're still doing an investigation, buddy. If we if we came came here with our minds made up that you were going to jail, which before we ever stepped foot in your yard, we had enough to take you to jail. If our minds listen to me, if our minds were made up, >> you would be in handcuffs right now. The fact that you're not means that we're trying to do business with you, but we need you to be honest with us and give us something. Okay. >> I'm sorry. Yes, I did kill. I do got a dog and I got 20 cats in this yard. That love going down my leg. >> Have you ever lost a dog or a cat to an alligator? Yes. That sucks. That's a natural part of Florida. It does suck. >> I know. >> Dogs or cats? >> Oh, cats. >> Really? >> He's the only dog that I got. >> Yeah. And he's prime gator bait sides, >> right? >> Um, how do you know you lost cats? Did you see it happen or you just saw it? >> That's really >> Wow. They get down close to the water and alligator >> they love going down that water. >> But cats are quick, man. >> I can see a dog getting got, but >> cats are usually the ones hunting, but alligators are pretty sneaky. Um, so tell me how you how you came to kill that alligator. Was he one you pulled out of the lake or one that was in the >> No, he was down here in the lake. >> How did you catch him? >> Uh, piece of rope >> with a hook or >> No, the rope that's down kind of >> lassoed. >> Lassoed him and pulled him in. So he let you get close to him, huh? >> Yeah. Yeah, he came he come right up to you. >> About how big was that alligator? >> Probably about 7 foot. >> 7 foot. Yeah, it's about the same size as those in the pool, isn't it? >> No, them are smaller in the pool a little bit, ain't >> five or six foot. >> That one there, he come right up to you. Even if I was down there, he walked come right up to you. >> Yeah, that means somebody around >> somebody's been feeding him >> because there are several people on this lake that I have seen out there before. >> And that's an opportunity, man, because nobody needs any gators. No, the one guy a couple houses down >> had him come all the way up to him while he was out there trying to get water out of the lake for his pull. >> You're worried about your pets. You have an alligator who's obviously not afraid of people who will come up to you without opening a law book. What do you think the right thing to do would have been? >> Probably call you all for a nuisance gator. >> So you know that. Yeah, absolutely. Man, we have we fully recognize that nuisance alligators are a real thing. because sometimes they get ruined by people feeding them and then they are naturally attracted to small animals. So even if somebody hasn't been feeding them, um the fact that he's not afraid of you and he's coming up close to your animals, >> our our snap program would come out here and remove him like that. But you're not allowed to do what you did. >> How did you How did you kill him? >> Uh to hit him in the back of the head. >> What? >> Did you use a gun? It's okay. I don't have no gun. I'm a fellow. >> So, how'd you kill him? >> Not coming back the head. >> That's not going to kill an alligator. >> Pickaxe. I mean, like I said, I know it was wrong. I shouldn't have done it. >> Okay. Where's your pickaxe? >> Cuz listen, here's the thing, man. If once you start once you start the tangled web, as you're learning, we keep pulling on threads and stuff. So, it's you tell me you did with a pickaxe, I'm going to ask you to see your pickaxe. And then I'm going to go look at the skull on the alligator and it better have a hole in it that matches. You know what I mean? So don't make this more complicated than it needs to be. Just this is the time to just >> It's only ahead. Where's the rest of them at? >> Buried. >> Buried where? >> Right there. >> Right there. >> Yeah. >> You got a shovel. >> So how did you kill him? >> How deep? Have a look. Want me dig it? LT. >> How deep is he? Okay. >> Now that you're telling the truth, um, do you want to revise the story on how these two got in your pool? >> You want to change? >> I did not put them in there. I did. >> Can I tell you something? Whether you put them in there or not, >> I know it's my responsibility because I'm the homeowner. I'm the one that's going to get charged for So, the the potential consequences of those alligators being in your pool are the same whether you put them there or somebody else put them there. You got me? Because right now, you're the one that's in possession. So, it's not going to hurt you to tell us the truth. And in fact, like I've emphasized to you, it helps us help you a little bit when we get cooperation. And then if you if you end up standing before a judge, >> it goes a long way. Instead of him seeing in our report that you deceived us and you deceived us and you deceived us and you deceived us, he sees that >> it's in his fridge. Although I just got a whiff. I don't know if it's from that head though. How long ago did you kill him? probably been a month and a half maybe >> 109 Thank you for being off on that one. I didn't want to dig a hole and not find anything. I'll take responsibility for that one. I did kill that one because of my two in there. I did not put in 100%. >> I know. Like you said, I should have called and had y'all come out here and trap it. I mean, that's my own stupidity. >> Well, >> now it just cost me going back to jail. >> This is going to be a learning object experience for you. 32. >> You're fine right now, man. >> I already know what's going to happen, sir. >> No, just just relax, dude. Relax. I'm not dumb. I already know what's going to happen. Over that right there alone is just going to get me right here. >> What? What's your little dog's name? >> Say it again. >> Q. Like Q ball. >> Q-tip. >> Q-tip. >> Turn that lizard. >> Stinky. >> You cut out. I'm guessing. >> All right. You see that? >> Okay. So, that's his lasso there. Let's get Oh, is it? I think this was the lasso. >> Last unit. >> The jaw is right there behind you. There's no hole in it. All right, Mr. Williams. You see him? All right, turn right back. Robert, do you since you don't know the guy's number, do you know somebody who does know him that we could maybe call because we want to talk to him to try to solve and that that's going to help you a little bit if we can hold him accountable for putting him in your pool. >> The only person would be my ex and I doubt she's even going to talk to him. >> Will she talk to us? >> I don't know. She even still got the same phone number. She to be honest. >> What's your ex's name? >> Shelby. >> Yes. You need me to write that down? >> And now you cannot produce anything that shows that you called us. >> No, sir. >> And nothing about you can't show anything that you told them to get those alligators out of your pool. >> No, sir. Like I said, I don't talk to him except for in person when he was here. >> Okay. You see the spot I'm in, right? >> I just want to know this is where I'm at. >> I already knew where I was going. >> All right. >> Um >> Hello. >> Come over here and get the dog to lock my house up in my gate, please. >> Why? Okay, >> cuz I'm going to jail. >> For what? >> Cuz I an alligator and there's two gators that Dylan put in pool. >> All right, we'll be over there in a couple minutes. >> All right. >> Bye. >> Bye. >> She just lives right down the road. >> Okay. And you said don't put him in your pool. >> Yes. >> And then how long has it been since he has been around? >> About a month and a half. Come on, puppy dog. >> You got to walk in the house. Dana, >> why did you do this? >> What am I supposed to do now? Dad's up there in the VA hospital. I've got nobody here to help me. >> Why? Walk in the house. You got to go to the back door. Pull the front door shut and slide that. >> The you kill a gator for a dog and the cat. Got a couple of them. Ma'am, >> meanwhile, I've got a husband sending up to the pick of VA. They could possibly lose his foot. Your brother's not here, >> ma'am. >> And now I got nobody. >> Ma'am, what what's your name? >> Thelma. >> Thelma. I'm Swain with FWC. I hate that we're meeting like this. Can I ask you something a favor, please? >> Sure. I know you're going through a lot and I know this is very inconvenient, but I I was letting you come down here to help him as a courtesy to him. So, I I I need you to try to I'm not telling you don't be upset, but I don't want you to escalate this and make him upset, too, cuz he cares about you. He said that when you hung up the phone earlier. >> No, I've got nobody here to help me. >> Hopefully. It's going to be November before dad can go back to work. I can't >> judge in the morning. >> I can't bail you out. I don't have the money. And what charge does this carry? >> He can tell you. What's uh >> Well, are we looking at prison time for this? >> Ma'am, I I don't have the answer for you. All we have is the charges that we have. We have to do our job today. That's all going to be determined in the back end by court. So, I don't have the answer for that right now. >> And what's going to happen to Dylan? >> Probably nothing because I can't get a hold of him. We're going to we're still going to talk to Dylan. don't know where is that >> investigation. So, we have to now meet up with him. >> We're having a hard time connecting some dots to Dylan so that we can go talk to him. But, we're working on that. But whether with or without Dylan, this is a a business decision that that we had to do. >> We can just return them. >> I mean, I don't know how it works here down south and have to contact Captive Wildlife, determine how long they've been in captivity, and then they would come out and remove them. But here, everything's different here, so I can't tell. >> No. Well, how long have they been in there? >> You said some are recent, but the big ones been in there for >> Yeah, the big ones. I had the big one for a long time. >> Okay. >> Cuz I can just take that net down there and get rid of them. Okay. So, if you want to explain that to him, I'll grab that charge of little turtles, too. >> Well, we got to that's not the best place for him now. We got to uh relieve you of that responsibility, I think. And we are >> you have a turtle apparently. >> And we are getting the alligators out of your pool. >> I'd say we let the family 98. >> Mhm. >> And then put him in the truck and then figure out the rest of it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Let him let her feed the dogs. >> Um Robert, do you need them to take care of anything else other than lock up the house and feed the animals right now? >> Nope. >> Okay. I'm sorry, >> Miss Thelma. Do you mind collecting the young lady whenever she's uh I guess she's feeding the cats right now. >> Get the dog food. >> Okay. Come here, puppy. Q-tip. Come here, Q. >> Come here. >> It's a sweet little dog. Come here, Q. Come on. Back over here. Come on. Come >> go to Dana. Look, is there anything else you need to talk with them about? >> So, look, um, is there anything you want to talk with them before I put you in the cage? I can open the door. You can say whatever you need to go. I'm just saying I'm giving you the opportunity to do anything you need to do. >> Your friend down there will take them chickens. >> Chicken. >> Mom knows who I'm talking about. >> I still reading Hey, hey, hey, hey. >> Nothing in your pockets. >> Nope. Nothing over there. I have it in my phone. >> We're in the bedroom. >> All right. Is there anything else you need? >> Anything else you need to tell them? Nothing. >> Watch your left. >> Hang on a second. I need this. >> Get towards me. I'm getting cranked up. All right. He was charged with two counts of illegal possession of alligators, taking alligators without a trapping license, and possession of soft shell turtles. He was sentenced to 90 days in jail. Thanks for watching. Be sure to subscribe for more videos like this.
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