We need to finish. >> How you doing? Name >> is also Smith Akan Police Department. You have an ID on you by chance, man. >> Yes, please. You put this window down for me. >> What's up, man? You got an ID on you? >> You say what? >> You got you on you? Okay. I appreciate you, man. Officer, the reason I stopped you, you use your turn signal right at the turn. You have to use 100 ft prior. >> And the reason for that? Everything okay? >> Yeah, I just turned right. >> What's that? I didn't hear you. >> Huh? >> What's that? I didn't hear you. I'm sorry. >> No, I just said I just turned right for no reason. I thought I turned I thought I put my blinkers on. >> But you said I turned it too early. >> No, you did it right at the at the turn. Like you have to do it before the intersection. 100 ft. I always It's 100 ft prior. I give people a little bit of leeway, but you can't do it right at the turn. You know what I mean? It gives drivers a chance to know what you're about to do before you do it. Okay. >> Um, uh, where you coming from? >> Uh, store. >> Which store? >> Coming from Derek. >> Derek. >> Derek. All right. Where you heading to? >> Drop the ball. >> Fair enough. All right. All right. I'm just going to check to make sure everything's good. And I asked uh cuz of the new constitution carry laws in Ohio, are there any weapons in the vehicle? >> No. >> No guns? >> No, >> sir. There's no guns, nothing like that. >> No guns. Nothing like that. All right. H What's in that cool black case? >> No, nothing. This is my bad. >> Is it like an instrument? You play any play? >> Ain't nothing in it. >> No. I used to I had uh I used to play trumpet in high school. It looks exactly like it. Hold on. >> But not sounded like an instrument. I was going to ask to play. Okay. I'll be right back with you guys. Okay. >> Sure. >> You say it's your dad's. What is it? >> I don't know. >> Is it a gun case? >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> Looks like an FN case. Is there a firearm in there? No. You want me to You want me to grab it? >> Could you? I'd appreciate it. Yeah. >> Seven. >> You say there's no firearms in the vehicle. >> All right. I'll be right back with you guys. Okay. We'll tell you. Would you Would you care if we make make sure take a look make sure there's not no weapons in the vehicle? >> No. That case, the case is making me a bit nervous. The fact it's right there. >> I understand that. But the case right there, the way it is, there's a lot of you in here. >> The way that you're looping. >> No, it's not. >> It just make you a bit too nervous. I just want to make sure that I'm safe. Okay. So, I'm >> You're safe. I'm not on >> Well, I'm just going to have you guys step out. Okay. >> Come on. >> Go ahead. Take the seat belt off. >> We'll just We'll just do one at a time. >> Can you Could you leave your bag in the car, though? >> This is my bag in there. >> This? >> Yeah. Go ahead. Face away. I'm not I'm not supposed to be. >> Hey, no, you stay back. Step on the back. Yeah, back here, bud. >> Here. Yeah. Yep. You sit on the bumper right there. 11 got FN yet. >> No, it's not. No, I just No, it's not. No, it's not my car. This is my mom. >> Oh, okay. The only time you got >> No, just in a safe. Okay, >> I just No, I just cleared No, listen. I just cleared out my trunk and I It was my back seat. I didn't like it. I was curious. >> I just Okay. How you like New York? >> It's all right. >> Yeah. How far are you from the city? It's 8 hours like in the city. >> I just got back. I just got back yesterday. Play basketball. >> Think about the shirt. >> How' you guys do this year? >> What'd you go to high school? >> Uh I went to Firestone High School. >> All right. What' you How old are you? >> I'm uh 19. >> Oh, so you just graduated? Yeah. >> Well, graduated a while back, obviously. >> You freshman or sophomore then in college? So, I'm a freshman. >> Okay. How you like it? >> It's decent. I mean, it's all right. I'll just >> adjust probably from high school basketball. More of like business type like work kind of thing or >> Yeah. >> My cousin, he played uh he played football. He went to Boulder Wallace and like the business aspect of it just kind of ruined it for him. He said it's like more like a job than anything else. talking barbecue. Good. >> You loosen up a little bit though. >> Uh, yeah. Let me just get you back the car. Okay. I'll fix them for you. >> You've been cool with me, so I'll make sure they're comfortable. As comfortable as it could be. >> I want to fix them before you get in. You look over your hands. >> No. Yeah. >> I just want to make sure they're not on your bone. That's going to make it really uncomfortable. >> Yeah. You see my shirt? >> Yeah. You have the right to remain silent. >> It's okay if I talk to you. >> Uh yeah. >> Um >> you said you told me for the uh late late. >> You did. >> No, listen. Right. Right. when I seen you guys or when I seen you guys like um I turn right cuz I usually all the things going on I just get nervous when cops get behind me so I just that's why I put my turn signal I thought y'all seen it >> well so so so let me explain to you kind of the sequence of events here okay so I see a pull out onto Maple right here >> which is obviously fine right and then not even like a block later you make a right >> yeah cuz I just get nervous when y >> so you're trying to you know you just don't you don't like the fact cop behind which I get it to a certain point. All right. >> And I see you come up and around and back out in the same direction again. So we go back to like So you're trying to like avoid me, which is fine. All right. >> No, I was trying cuz when y'all turned with me, I was like, "Okay, maybe we just made the same turn." So I turned left and I still on me. I'm like, "Oh, he about to pull me over." So that's why I just turned back on and then uh came back to the street. That's all. That's all it was. >> Okay. >> But I I made sure I took my turn signal. That's why I was kind of confused on you. So I did it later. >> So you have to do 100 ft prior to the turn. You did it right at like when I say at the turn, you're at the stop sign and then turn it on. That's what I mean by that. >> You have to do 100 ft prior. Okay. All right. >> Now, what's up with the gun underneath your seat? >> My gun? >> Yeah. >> I don't know. This not my This like not my I don't know the drivers that drive my car. I don't I don't really know. >> Well, you said it's it's your car, right? >> Yeah, it's my car. But like I just got here from college, so >> Okay. You're you're in college? >> Yeah. Okay. Um, how old are you? >> I just turned 19. >> Okay. All right. Um. All right. And you said who's the case is your dad's? >> Yeah, I think so. Yeah. >> You think so? >> I don't know what mine tell me. I don't know, but I think so. That's all I guess. >> Okay. >> All right. Um, is there anything else in the vehicle I know about? >> No, it's not so. Okay. All right. I'll talk more in a second, okay? But I just want to make sure there's nothing else dangerous in there. All right. >> Yeah, I get it. >> But I'm I'm going to treat you right. I'm not going to treat you badly. You've been respectful of me. I'm going to be respectful you. Okay. Just go with 30 ft up inside and I'll talk to you in a second. >> All right, guys. So, I already found a gun in there. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, I need you to be straight up with me. Is there something I'm I'm going to be looking? >> There's nothing else in there. Okay. >> Not that I know. >> I'm not that. >> All right. Cuz I'm I'm This is your opportunity. I'm going to try and work with you guys, but >> All right. Fair enough. Uh yeah, until until I get a picture of it and we secure it. Just like leave it where it lay. It's under the driver's seat. >> Coins, you hear that? >> What? >> Just leave the gun lay where it is. Like don't clear it or anything that >> it's under the driver's seat. Just leave it right there. Don't touch it. >> Hello. You've reached. Please leave your name, number, and time you called. Have currently either had a meeting or an appointment. I will get back with you as soon as possible. Thank you so much for your call and have a blessed day. >> Hello, sir. This is Officer Stack Police Department. I'm calling about your son. Um, we ran into some issues today. I I very much need to speak with you urgently. Um, he is fine. He's not hurt at all. Um, but I need going to need to talk to you. So, I'm going to give you another call here about 5 minutes. Please pick up and uh we'll go from there. Thank you. forcing me to get there. They might be more likely to answer if you're calling. I called her once, but is this FaceTime? Wow. Hey man, this is Officer Snater Akan Police Department. >> Hey. >> Hey. How you doing? Um, >> yeah. >> He's fine. I just want you to know he's fine. He's okay. He's not hurt or nothing like that. All right. Um, he uh So, number are there any firearms in your home? >> No. No. Yes. Yes. Mercy. I have my concealed carry. >> What? What do you carry? I know this is going to sound so unfortunate, but I have two um I don't know what Smith and Wessons. >> My husband My husband's Can you hear Can you see me? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. My husband has a game that's he's doing an official he's officiating at I think St. Vincent St. Vincent. >> Okay. >> And I don't know what our our our fire armors are called. Well, what what do they look like? >> Maybe about maybe about this big. I don't know if they're considered like a 38 or a 9 mm. They're not big. >> Oh, not big. >> No. >> And that's it. That's the only gun. >> I think we just have the two or the two or three cuz I inherited one with my my grandmother passed. It was like a revolver. >> Okay. They still have. >> Okay. But none of them are like none of them are big. >> What's going on, officer? >> What's I'm sorry. What's What did you say? >> What's wrong? >> Um, so your son was stopped today for a minor traffic violation. When I stopped him, um, it he admitted to me afterwards that he was trying to avoid me, which is fine. And I mean some people, you know, some people nervous around the police. That's I get nervous when I'm around the police, too. You know, I don't want to stop and get a ticket or anything like that. But, you know, I'm talking with them and when I'm talking with him, I see a gun case in the back. >> Okay. >> And you know, he he shows me the case. It's empty. He seems to be getting he got a little bit nervous when I asked about it. Um, >> so just for my safety, a number of factors. I saw this vehicle had been involved in a shooting in the past. >> Like it had been he had been Has your son been shot at in the past? >> The guy that was in the car with him. Yes, >> he was being shot at. >> Yeah, the car was It was >> the August. >> Yeah. >> July or August. >> Yeah. So due due to that and other factors, I was just I was nervous. I don't want to get hurt on the job. My partner doesn't want to get hurt. So we, you know, we just asked him to step out just to make just to sweep the vehicle, make sure there's no weapons, and we found um a loaded pistol under your son's seat. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, he is going to be charged with it. Um >> Okay. Not allowed to have one. >> He's 19 years old. You can't have a loaded gun in his possession. >> Okay. Where are Can I come to where you guys are? >> Um, we're we're about to move most like Well, so here's my other question before we do that. Are you able to come get the car? >> Yeah, but he has the key. I don't have the extra key with me. >> His father or he does? is that is working. Where where is he going to be? >> Well, he's he's going to be taken to jail. >> Are you serious? >> Mhm. It's a ser it's it's a felony offense. >> Okay. Hold on. >> I'd prefer I would prefer to not have to tow the vehicle. >> No, I don't want to tow it. >> So, if you guys at Where are you at now? We're at Maple and Bulch. >> Oh, okay. >> You know where that is? >> Yes. >> Where are you at? >> I can be to you in 10 minutes. >> Okay. We'll be here about 10 minutes. I'll talk to you more then. Okay. >> And his father's at work. >> His father's at work. old anyways. >> Hey, please >> please don't and and please don't get here in such a speed where you're like I don't want you to get hurt. So, just please don't speed. Okay. I don't want you to get I don't want you to get hurt. Okay. It's going to be all right. He's safe. He's not hurt. Okay. Um could you could you call his father and let him know to accept a private a private phone call? because I've been trying to call him and he hasn't been answering. >> No, he's worried he can't pick up. He won't be able to pick up until >> Okay. All right. >> Okay. >> Well, thank thank you. >> I I'll speak I don't >> see if it's Well, you know, um I'm going to get off here. I don't want you to be distracted and driving, so I'll talk to you when we get here. Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. What's your name? >> Officer Snater. later. Okay, thank you. >> I'll talk to you in a bit. >> You guys are free to go. >> Oh, we are. Have we got the information? >> Uh, I did not. I didn't know if you did. I can do that. >> Hey, brother. So, so here's the deal, man. And I'm I'm not I'm not judging you. I don't you seem like like a respectful guy >> and I'm not just saying that postmuck being serious. >> Um I think it's it's it's time to be honest about the gun man. I I talked to your mom. They they don't have you guys your dad doesn't have no gun like an FN5 57. So let's listen let's >> I seriously don't know. I seriously don't know. I seriously >> So here's here's the thing, man. Did you ever So we send all guns now to get tested for DNA. So if you you touched it, we're going to tell So, did you see it? Maybe like maybe you saw you saw it beforehand, didn't know what to do with it. Maybe you touched it, put it in there, like you got nervous, like what? >> Yeah, I >> work with me, man. >> Probably test it, but like I don't know whose gun it is, though. So, >> okay. You don't know who's >> Yeah. I don't never really trip about people having my car cuz like you like you said, like it's it's legal in Ohio and I don't smoke or drink. So, >> it's legal in Ohio under certain factors. Yeah, I I understand what you're saying. So, like >> I ain't never really care about people having guns in my car cuz I got pulled over. I never had to step out the car >> or know nothing. So, >> well, there is some there is some factors that was making me just nervous for my safety and my partners and cuz you know, you understand I don't want to get hurt out here and I I know that I know that now like talking to you and dealing with you that you aren't the type to try and hurt me or else but I don't know that like I'm out here. I'm dealing with people I don't know. Um, I'm not trying to get hurt out here and [ __ ] up or shot, you know, >> and I don't I don't know what kind of guy is going to do that until he does it. You know what I mean? >> I'm afraid of times. That's why that's why I turned a right and a left. I was just I seen what happened to Jaylen Walker and stuff and I every time like one of the guys behind me, I just get nervous cuz last time I pulled over, I took my tent off cuz, you know, cop told me that it was just it wasn't that big of a deal for him to stop me. He stopped me and he was holding his gun and stuff. So, I ain't want that to happen again. So, I just >> Well, you didn't you didn't see me pull my gun out or nothing like that. I never got crazy with you, right? >> I understand. That's why I just pulled over. So, you guys follow me. I knew I just pulled over. >> Well, it's night. I respect the fact that you've been respectful and you haven't given me no problems. You didn't you didn't try and run. You didn't try and fight us. I mean, you that kind of stuff can lead to me getting hurt and you getting hurt. So, I I appreciate you doing that. Okay. Um, so I'm going to do you the favor. As long as she's here within a reasonable amount of time, I'll try and hold you from the wagon leaving with you until your mom gets here and she can talk to you. Okay. I'll try and do you that favor. All right. What What all do you want to go with you to to count it? You want your phone? >> Yeah. >> You want your a wallet and all that? >> Uh, yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. >> My keys. >> Your keys? >> My piece got to go with my phone, right? >> Yeah. Your keys have to go. At least the vehicle keys. I don't know if you have house keys. >> Yeah. All my vehicle keys. Okay, I'll I'll take off the vehicle key and I'll let you keep the rest of it. Okay. >> No, you might as well just give her the whole thing. >> Everything. Even your phone? >> Yeah, cuz she said she about Did she say she's going to follow me there? No, >> she's not going to follow you there. >> But she's she's going to be here. Like, I'm not going to What I'm saying is I'm going to make sure as long as she doesn't take forever for uh her to talk to you before you actually leave. Okay. Um but I'm going to I'm going to go ahead and transfer you now. Okay. Go ahead. Step on out. over here. Step on back the property, sir. >> Uh he's given everything to his mom. If you don't mind, uh >> county or district >> counting. He's 19. >> Um if if you don't mind, as long as it's not an unreasonable amount of time. I told his mom I would I would wait for >> what's his name? >> I would wait for his mom to get here to talk to him before he left. So, if you don't mind holding just for a second. >> Okay, fair enough. >> Oh, perfect. If you just want to let us do this business, can you >> Oh, >> yep. Can you stay with me? >> Okay. So, I won't be able to get the car until I get my daughter off of work. >> That's fine. As long as we get it I just as long as we get it off the road so it doesn't get hit. >> Oh, yeah. Cuz you guys have the key. >> Yeah, we'll we'll we'll get we'll get that for you. Okay. So, um he says he wants you to have everything. Um so, he's going to be he's going to receiving two charges today for they're essentially for the same thing. for having carrying a concealed weapon and for having improperly transporting it in a vehicle >> cuz it has to be >> it has to be on one part and the ammunition has to >> it has to be out of his control because he's 19. He has to be 21 in order to legally carry a gun. So that's constitutional carry. Um that's for 21 year olds. >> They have to write this down. This is so overwhelming. >> Yeah. Um has he ever been arrested before? >> Never. >> Okay. He's never been in trouble except for detention at school, maybe a suspension. >> Yeah, he's been he's been respectful with us. I he he won't directly say it's his. He said he touched it. Um he kind of alluded to the fact that he told me that someone I just to be honest with you, he was carrying a loaded gun. I don't know for what purpose. And the reason I'm telling you this is not to be nosy. I just want you as a mother to be aware of this stuff because typically when people >> young people are carrying guns it's for a reason. >> Yeah. >> Like yes there is a little bit of that like you know I want to look cool and have a gun and look you know all that kind of stuff but a lot of times when people are carrying guns it's because they have enemies and they're trying to protect themselves. >> So I'm concerned that maybe he's up to more than what he's led you on to. >> Yeah. And I want you and a mother, you as a mother to be prepared for that and to try and do take corrective actions because there's only so much uh I'm not going to I'm under no kind of uh illusion that the the juvenile justice system is not what it could be all the time. A lot of the the real work is going to happen at home with you guys. And I can I can tell just based off of everything that he has a good support system. It's not a it's not a matter of having bad parents cuz I can tell you, you know, just in the way he talks and presents himself that >> he has a good uh home life. >> Yeah. >> At least good parents. >> Yeah. >> It's just he he just >> for one reason or another, I can't tell you what. I'm not a psychologist. He's just decided to enter down onto the wrong road. And I I I pray and hope that we're able to get him on the right path because >> I think this might be quite honest with you. Sometimes they have to um get a hard lesson. >> Yeah. You know how you teach them and you tell them this, you tell them that, they have to learn it. >> Yes. >> So, what are the charges? Cuz I want to make sure I write it down. >> Yeah. So, uh cons uh carrying concealed weapon. >> Okay. >> And improper handling of a firearm in a motor vehicle. No, son. You have to when you get there, they're going to keep keep him overnight, possibly through the weekend, right? We don't know when you'll meet with the judge. >> You'll need to probably ask for a public defender. >> Okay. Amen. That's all I can say that I have your ID. I'm going to put your car over there and take it home. So, when we get home, >> I want to say this as your mom's here, and you don't have to say anything. You don't have to like affirm what I'm saying, deny what I'm saying. I just want you to listen to me, okay? And I know you're saying that the gun isn't yours, but but please listen to this and take this to heart, okay? I've been doing this for a long time. I've seen what happens when young men with promising futures like you go down the wrong path. They hang with the wrong people. They've gotten themselves in trouble. They get enemies. They start carrying guns. And I've been there when they die. I've I have seen their last breaths as in providing aid to them. I do not want that to be you. >> Whatever you have gotten yourself into, we need to choose a different path or you're you're not going to make it very long. I promise you. Okay. >> You have a lot more there's a lot more for you in life than any of the crap around here. Okay? I can tell that you know I'm I can't say for certain your home life. only you can say that it's your life, but I can tell you have two parents who care about you. You You have the possibility to make some great decisions. Don't don't ruin it by acting a fool. Okay, man. Please, I'm I'm not I'm saying that as a cop and I'm saying that as a human being. Please, you need to choose a better path, okay? Please let this let this be the wake up call and let this be the be the last time you're ever playing. Okay? All right. >> Love you, Mom. >> Love you, too. >> No problem. >> He was charged with carrying a concealed weapon and improperly handling firearms in a vehicle. Thanks for watching. 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