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just so you get the the structure down
it's a little bit of a road map we're
going to go over some of the most
important and interesting police and
crime stories from the last week some of
them are some updates but really we had
a bunch of interesting things happen
this week so I'm going to go through
some of those stories give some of my
thoughts and takes and opinions on those
stories but even more important than
what I think about these cases I'm
really interested like always what our
viewers are in think about these cases
maybe I'm saying something where you
think that there is something I'm
getting wrong or maybe you live locally
in the area where one of these incidents
occurred and you have some information
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ground so as I'm going through these
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Sergeant George hello from California so
Sergeant George is one of our are one of
our regulars here haven't seen you in a
couple weeks so glad that you are back
with us uh let's see we've got uh yes
Sergeant George Happy Valentine's Day we
got some people in from College Station
Texas and uh hello from
we got some funny people in here today
all right and uh here we go so the first
case that we're going to talk about is
it's it's something that it so earlier
in the year later in the year late in
the the last show that we did in 2022 I
went through what I thought was the most
important cases of the year not just
when it comes to you know the most
people died but you know really when I
talk about an important case it's what
kind of impact does that case have so
important a lot of cases are interesting
but important police cases have effects
and really do more
uh affect more than just the individual
case so here's what I mean by that and
here's what I mean by that and it's when
it comes to the officer Christopher sure
shooting this is the shooting of Patrick
Loyola that happened in April of 2022.
this was the case where Patrick Loyola
in Grand Rapids Michigan he ran after a
traffic stop he took the officers or had
possession of the officer's taser there
was an officer involved shooting that
officer Christopher sure is now charged
with second-degree murder so at the our
last show of 2022 I said this was the
most important case um going forward
into 2023 because for a couple different
reasons and there was a there was a
recent update on this case that's kind
of why I'm rehashing this a little bit
the reason why this case is important
and why police officers really all
around the country either do or should
care about this officer-involved
shooting when officers typically don't
care about every officer involved
shooting because think about it there
are approximately 1 000 deadly
officer-involved shootings every year in
the United States it would be impossible
for every police officer to really be
concerned but when police officers are
are at coffee shops or in briefing the
cases that they talk about and are
concerned about typically have a couple
of elements the first of those elements
is that it has to be something that's
objectively reasonable that at least is
in the ballpark of officers thinking
yeah okay I see what the officer was
doing and then the officer has to be
prosecuted so it's when those two
elements that's when you get the
attention of police officers and then a
lot of different groups that are aligned
with police officers and support police
because you have to have police officers
say you know if I was in that situation
I would have done the same thing and
then sitting back and them realizing
that doing the same thing would land
them decades in prison so that's where I
talk about the Christopher sure shooting
I'm not going to get into all the facts
of it this was absolutely 100 lawful and
Justified case I've gone through in
detail before but there was a motion
hearing today so Christopher share is
charged with second-degree murder the
motion hearing today was essentially
motions filed by the the defense of
Christopher Scherer essentially trying
to get the case dismissed the judge
already found that there was probable
cause but the the defense attorney found
uh filed a couple other motions in order
to so really what the motion hearing was
about today was just to try to figure
out what law are we going by and you
know I'm going to break it down as
simply as possible the argument from the
prosecutor is that police officers in
Michigan per the law do not have any
other rights responsibilities or
authority to use deadly force than a
regular citizen now that should that
should seem absolutely crazy because
police officers clearly have more rights
responsibilities and Authority than a
normal citizen otherwise it seems like
the prosecutor is saying that they
support vigilance in the state of New
Mexico or not in Mexico in the state of
Michigan or why would anyone call 9-1-1
why would you call a police officer if
any citizen just has the ability to use
deadly force against someone who's
committed editing committing a felony so
we know that isn't the case and the the
defense attorney from Christopher sure
he was basically trying to get the court
to rule on motion that um he's trying to
get The Cordial one to dismiss the case
but if not to at least set the law
because and and the judge basically said
no it was a really quick hearing it was
irritating because they wouldn't allow
any streaming in there so um we're kind
of just getting secondhand reports and
hearing from the attorneys about what
happened but essentially the judge said
that the elements were there for
second-degree murder the only question
the only thing outstanding is was this
self-defense from officer sure and the
judge said and this part is probably
correct that self-defense it's just what
it sounds like it's a defense so you
know the the appropriate people to weigh
that defense based on the evidence and
the charges are the jury so if they're
not going to dismiss the case on
probable cause which is where I think
the case should be dismissed I
understand the judge
um not making a ruling on self-defense
and leaving the fact-finding to the jury
which is is the jury's job so I
understand that when it comes to the
legal process but there was a hearing
today it did not go the way that the
good guys wanted because the case was
not dismissed it should go to trial it
should go to trial in uh it's scheduled
for March 23rd however if uh officer
sure's attorney appeals and if the
appeal is going to be heard by the next
highest court that court date could
absolutely uh that that
um that's absolutely could
um uh get it pushed back so I just kind
of wanted to update everyone on this and
um you know because uh because yeah I
should say this that you know when it
comes to police and self-defense there's
a lot of there's a lot of really
interesting and strange things so
there's actually a case in New Mexico
where a state police officer had a
shooting and the suspect claimed
self-defense
um and that was in federal court um the
case ended up being a mistrial uh the
feds are retrying it um but we do have
the body camera footage on this channel
So Def definitely watched that it was a
strange thing for for a defense to stay
um uh that they were trying to defend
themselves from a police officer when
they were the ones who were being
violent in the first place so um we'll
definitely put the body camera in there
too because a lot of these cases are
kind of related when it comes to the
facts so back to the Christopher
showcase so if you're interested in this
case um whether or not you think
Christopher sure did did the right thing
or not the right thing or if you just
want to learn more about the case I'm
going to direct you to a Facebook group
it's called Stand with sure uh Facebook
group if you want to go ahead and um uh
that's where there is a lot of
information about this case let's see if
we have any comments about this uh let's
see uh Tammy says hello how are you from
California love everything you do well
uh Tammy um hope that you are doing well
Sharon from uh North Carolina Welcome in
as well Sergeant George says at first I
didn't want to believe what Joe Biden
said when he was mentioning about how
police officers need to be retrained but
after I saw the evidence it all began to
make sense okay we'll get to that here
in uh in a second uh Joe John Van handle
talks about fat cops he's mentioned that
a couple times today okay
um great
um fantastic so it sounds like John
wants to fund the police departments so
that police officers can get more rest
maybe help them pay for their pay for
good food and gym membership so seems
like John wants to put more funding into
police departments for that kind of
stuff John I agree with you 100 Sergeant
George for the more deadly force can
also be used if the lies of other people
are in danger I I agree a hundred
percent uh lucid dream says when cops
are held to higher standards than the
citizens then I will begin respecting
them okay well I guess you would have to
give me an example so when lucid dream
when you say something like that here's
what I'm looking for when it comes to
honest criticism say here's the standard
that normal people are set to here's the
standard that police officers are set to
and here's my objective evidence of why
the police officers aren't held to a
higher standard so if you actually take
it a couple steps further and break it
down uh Mr or Mrs lucid dream you will
see that police officers are are held to
a higher standard and they absolutely
should be okay so if you want to go
ahead and uh there's definitely more
information about the Christopher
showcase um I think I mentioned a couple
weeks ago so last week I recorded an
interview uh with law enforcement uh
today radio and uh that goes to radio
and podcasts I did an interview I think
it's going to come out this week where I
talk about the Christopher showcase
there in a little bit more detail so um
you know definitely go ahead and look
for it there the other case well real so
really the next case that I want to talk
about and so the video of The Tyree
Nichols case in Memphis the video
between Tyree Nichols and the Memphis
five that hit pretty much right
um right after we did the show last week
so we did the show around lunchtime and
the video came out uh last Friday
evening at about six o'clock Memphis
time so we didn't get to talk about the
video now we had a pretty good idea um
to note that video was put on Vimeo
um it was too violent for YouTube
um but you know you can definitely find
the videos there there's four different
videos um cut three are body camera
footage and then one is a pole camera
it's essentially a camera that's on top
of a street light that is run by the
city of Memphis so um we kind of knew
what was going to be on the video and
the reason that we knew is because the
chief of police the D.A and then of
course the attorneys um for Mr Nichols
family like Ben Crump who I absolutely
don't trust when they say things but
when the things that Ben Crump was
saying were confirmed by the District
Attorney's Office who's going to have to
prove charges and courts and from the
police department who fired the officers
so when it's kind of confirmed by them
when all three are saying the same thing
you know it would be really and they say
we're going not not doing a Paul Pelosi
hide the video but they're saying we are
going to release the video this day and
this time it would be I I said it last
week it'd be really strange if the video
shows something other than what
everybody has said right so we think we
knew what was going to be on it and um
everyone who's wanted to watch it again
I just gave you the instructions on how
to do it everyone one who wants to
everyone who wants to wash it can is
absolutely horrific uh the charges
against the five police officers who
beat Tyree Nichols my opinion those
charges are are valid from what I could
see now of course we have incidents in
this case where you know is it possible
that all five police officers aren't as
guilty as each other sure I'll be honest
I haven't gone through this is what this
officer did I just watched the videos
you know I can't tell which officer is
which because I don't know that I don't
know them personally and you know the
best videos from that poll camera and
you can't really see the officer's faces
so it's difficult to tell exactly who
did what unless you know these people
like on a on a personal level but you
know certainly the officer who is
kicking Tyree Nichols in the face and
the officer who is uh smashing him in
the head with uh uh but baton um
certainly they would be more comfortable
more more culpable than officers who are
maybe just standing around not stopping
now I'm not excusing that and there were
actually three officers in the George
Floyd case that were convicted of lesser
crime times for not stopping Derek
Chauvin but the difference was Derek
Chauvin got 22 years in prison the other
officers all got between two to three so
could that be the case here where the
officers who were actually beating Mr
Nichols in the head and in the face when
he was under control are they more
culpable than the officers who weren't
doing that but were on scene sure I
think that's probably reasonable to say
but having charges filed against all
five who were there I'm completely good
with that um so just to talk about it a
little bit to break this down just a
little bit again I'm really curious what
you all think so put your comments in
the chat I will I will try to get to
those so um the here's what's strange so
the traffic stop was essentially this is
a street crimes unit that was called
Scorpion and I think I said it last week
that you know when and it's just a bad
idea to have a law enforcement unit a
police unit named after a violent
Predator like that's probably a bad idea
and that shouldn't be a controversial
thing to say but the Scorpion unit is
essentially a street crimes unit which
in general is a good thing is needed you
know how having officers on the street
level who are doing some undercover
stuff some responding to calls being
proactive being proactive
uh and again yeah I mean what they what
this is not so we're trying to do like
actual community policing by having
these Street crimes groups um this isn't
like WWE community policing like that's
not what we're trying to do here but it
seems like that's what they were doing
so these Street crimes units are
important because they're a lot of times
they're not in marked cars but they do
have lights so they can't do traffic
stops um they do some undercover stuff
they respond to calls and they try to
stop crime in the moment like the idea
of that is absolutely a great thing for
cities to do to combat violent crime if
you're trying to save lives now if that
that's not your goal then no police
departments shouldn't do that kind of
thing but putting these type of
proactive units into high crime areas
absolutely makes 100 sense but obviously
because these units have more leeway
they have they're not just sitting at a
radio having a dispatcher saying you
need to go to First Street for this call
like they have more they have more range
more ability more freedom to kind of do
what they want so that means there has
to be a pretty strict level of
supervision didn't seem like that was
happening so let's talk about the
traffic stop so the the what the option
I I don't necessarily believe anything
the officer said and we'll get that in a
second because what they put in their
police report about how the use of force
occurred yeah that doesn't match what's
on the video so anything I say this is
coming from the police officers I'm
taking it with a grain of salt not
because I don't trust police officers I
generally do trust police officers but
when I have objective evidence that
these police officers lied it's
reasonable to say yeah I'm not just
going to blindly trust what they say so
what they are saying the police officers
is that they pulled over Mr Nichols for
reckless driving so reckless driving is
a traffic offense typically it's a
traffic ticket so when a police officer
stops a car for reckless driving and
they contact the driver usually you ask
for the driver's license and
registration now during this personal
contact while they're at the car if a
police officer develops probable cause
or Reasonable Suspicion of other crimes
then they can go ahead and investigate
those crimes here's what I mean so they
stop him for reckless driving and this
is a situation that happens all the time
when them where I'm going with this they
stop him for reckless driving as they're
having contact with him they see signs
of intoxication maybe there's bloodshot
watery eyes there's slurred speech
there's an odor of an alcoholic beverage
maybe they can see an open container I'm
not saying this happened here I'm just
saying that in general this is how
police officers are able to expand
investigations from a traffic stop to
something else is you know you have what
was there on the traffic stop the
reckless driving and during this
personal contact you develop extra or
other Reasonable Suspicion of a
different crime well then police
officers can go ahead and investigate
that crime so my question is in this
case how do we go from reckless driving
which is a traffic stop a traffic ticket
to having him on the ground and being
yelled commands in order to get on the
ground so what happened there that's a
really important thing that's an
important piece of this and that's
missing in the body camera footage so at
this point we don't know if the officers
and this wouldn't surprise me if the
officer who did the initial traffic stop
if they just didn't have their body
camera rolling or maybe the body the
camera footage is so bad like there
literally is no reason to have him exit
the vehicle and and you know tell him to
get on the ground you know maybe that's
just so bad Memphis hasn't released it
so but I kind of doubt that second one
the reason why is because they already
gave us all the bad like all the
bad stuff about him being hit with the
hit with the Baton and the like literal
like awful um excessive force they've
given us all that so why they wouldn't
why would they be trying to hide like
the initial contact of the traffic stop
would be a strange thing to do so and I
can't say what the motivations from
Memphis are maybe they just wanted to
get out the foremost most important
videos but the reason why this one from
a normal traffic stop which cops do tens
of thousands of times a day across the
country with no issues how do we go from
that to trying to get him out of the car
for what seemed to be something that
maybe he would get a traffic ticket for
also when Mr Nichols is on the ground so
police officers and everything they do
especially when it comes to use of force
there has to be a lawful objective
meaning the lawful reason behind what
the police officer is doing that how has
to be it the lawful objective would be
this individual is I think he's driving
drunk so I'm gonna do field sobriety
tests my lawful objective is to do field
sobriety tests to maybe make a DWI
arrest okay that's a lawful objective
um and then you have to use force in
order to achieve that lawful objective
so let's say Mr Nichols had committed a
crime that these officers were going to
arrest him for and I'm not saying that's
what happened but let's say that that's
the case well then the law of then what
they would try to do is to get him into
handcuffs well that would be a lawful
objective here's someone there's
probable cause to arrest and then we're
trying to get him into handcuffs which
is the next step and yes if the
individual resists arrests we can use
necessary reasonable and proportional
force that is objectively reasonable to
get him into handcuffs so what I saw on
that video and again body camera isn't
perfect because it doesn't see what the
officer saw but it's like having an
eyewitness and us being able to see what
one eyewitness saw okay body Cam's not
perfect but it gives us a sense of what
happened so what I see on the body
camera footage and when Mr Nichols is on
the ground next to the driver's side of
his car the police officers were not
trying to get him into custody they were
trying to use Force they were just
trying to beat him up that's what it
seemed like because at no point did I
see an officer these officers all
probably outweighed him look at these
pictures of These Guys these guys are
huge one of them was on the football
team I believe at the West Virginia I
know one of them played division one
football but what what I'm what I'm
saying is that it's not like each
officer grabbed an arm and were trying
to get it behind his back that's not
what they were doing they were using
pepper spray one of them used a taser as
he's running away which is strange and
which is strange to to begin with but it
didn't seem like their objective was to
get his handcuffs hands behind his back
and handcuff him it seemed like their
objective was to kick his ass that's not
a lawful objective that's excessive
force just right there is absolutely
criminal then Tyree Nichols runs and
listen I'm never on the side of someone
who runs from police I have a pretty
strong history and I think of people who
watch me on this channel for the last
year know that I always say comply with
the police officers do not run do not
fight because if you don't run and you
don't fight your chances of being harmed
by police are really Slim I never say
zero because nothing's zero okay because
the Memphis five is always going to be
out there but it it it just
statistically it reduces your chances of
being harmed by police if you comply but
Tyree Nichols did run what I see on the
video he wasn't running because he was
trying to get away from something or he
just committed a crime and he was
flinging the scene it seemed like he was
running for his life so this is
literally the first time and I've been
involved in law enforcement you know
through school and then policing in law
school for over 20 years now this is
literally the first time where I said I
get why he ran from the cops and that
was probably the best decision in the
moment and I have never said that before
but I honestly think that's the case
please please put in the comments and
let me know if you think I'm right track
wrong track on that then when they catch
him this is the part we have to talk
about least because it's the most
obvious five officers basically beat him
to death it's horrible
um the Medics get there uh one of them
addicts the the Bosh she doesn't even
get out of the car they don't address
him right away so five officers have
been fired and charged with murder and
kidnapping and aggravated assault and
official misconduct uh two other police
officers are on leave right now
um uh we don't really know why we know
one of the officers used a taser but he
wasn't involved in the actual beating
um how much did he know at the time of
the tasing I don't know um so I'm you
know he's not been fired he's just on
leave so um for that to be investigated
I think is reasonable
um but
um it's it's and then three of the three
of the Medics have been fired for not uh
for not following protocol and not
rendering Aid correctly and here's some
of my thoughts and opinions on this case
it's here's what's problematic these
five officers who did this they either
didn't realize what they were doing was
wrong or they knew it was wrong but they
just didn't think that they would be
held accountable both are problematic
here's what they didn't think they
didn't think that a bunch of serious
people including us here over at cops
and con TV they didn't think that
serious people educated people from all
over the country were going to scour
through their body cam video and the
evidence I mean what they must have
thought is that just an unserious use of
forced investigation that they could
just their way through that
must be what they were accustomed to so
that tells me because they were so
comfortable on camera that tells me that
they weren't just they weren't just that
this wasn't the first time this happened
that they um they this seems like a
pattern and because of that this is a
bigger systematic problem with Memphis
now word of advice okay here's a word of
advice if you are a good decent normal
Memphis cop get out now find another
police job it's not worth it do not go
down with this sinking ship the
Department of Justice is going to be in
Memphis and based on what we see like
that's and I never say this again about
the doj like it's probably reasonable
that the doj goes in there because the
problems are unbelievably systematic in
this Police Department if you're a
normal regular cop in Memphis get out
now this is a sinking ship the next
decade the feds are going to be up
everybody's ass it's not going to be a
good place to work find another
department all right let's see what some
of the comments are here a gorgeous junk
hello this is the there's no excuse but
I heard that Tyree was messing around
with one of the cops ex-girlfriends and
his baby mama who he was apparently okay
um thank you for bringing this up
gorgeous junk I was gonna mention this I
I was I was on the fence or not whether
whether I was going to talk about it or
not but there was a rumor that started
on the internets
um that um the reason this happened is
that Tyree Nichols was messing around
with one of the wives of the police
officer so there is no evidence of that
um and I'm I'm an Evidence guy so you
show me the evidence let's go ahead and
talk about the evidence and we can
evaluate it and stuff like that
um there is no objective evidence of
this um Tyree Nichols family who um
again it's not Ben Crump it's his
stepfather came out and said yeah this
is it's absolutely not true so
um I'm gonna lean on that side that this
is a rumor started on the internet and
it's already been debunked no one
serious has made this claim and um uh
like I said the uh
uh Tyree Nichols stepfather
um specifically came out and said that
it wasn't true
um I'm not a psychic I don't have any
other information besides that but what
we're looking at now my guess is that
it's not true um it's just a rumor but
again stranger things have happened but
I would say probably not true let's say
uh Moto Jack 744 that was my old call
that was my old call sign motor Jack was
744. let's see I can't honestly say
there's no use of force training that
involves the officers holding someone up
and the third officer throwing Haymakers
to his face and head Moto Jack 744
um you have that call sign and you're
unbelievably smart I'm glad that they
gave it to you um because it's
absolutely crazy um that anyone would do
this um this is not how policing is done
so um you're 100 right uh let's see
Jason the scary part is they did all of
this knowing they had their cameras on
exactly Jason that is exactly correct
100 they did they were so comfortable
doing this on their own body camera I
mean think about it this is this is this
crazy and as wild as like Scott Peterson
taking a picture of Lacey's body before
he did dumps it into the bay like this
is nuts that they would record this
themselves of what they were doing uh
Talina Taylor as this case goes on is
going to be interesting to see if the
five officers knew Mr Nichols personally
yeah I agree it's going to be
interesting um but again I I don't I
don't think that's that's part of it uh
motor Jack uh let's see uh I would not
be surprised if evidence is produced
that shows these officers had some sort
of History so motor Jack oh you know I'm
gonna disagree because from what we know
Tyree Nichols doesn't have a criminal
history
um so again unless the unless the really
strange rumors about him working at
FedEx with one of the one of the cops
wives um I don't I don't know um but
from what we know Tyree Nichols
literally does not have a criminal
history so a street crimes unit working
in an unbelievably violent city probably
wouldn't be worried about someone like
Mr Nichols who literally has no criminal
history so uh let's see uh Sergeant
George or better yet go find another way
line of work if you're in Memphis better
line of work different state um at least
where I'm at we've had a bunch of police
a bunch of people leave our state in the
last couple years they've gone to Texas
they've gone to Florida and they've gone
to Idaho
um I
can't say uh can't vouch specifically
for those States but I've known a lot of
people who have gone to those three
states and um haven't heard any
complaints so uh let's see officer blue
gun even if that were the case why would
four other cops throw their careers away
for that officer blue gun why are you
asking such good questions yeah that's
that's 100 correct so the last thing I'm
going to say about this rumor about
Tyree Nichols and one of one of the cops
wives is let's say this was the case
like this doesn't if if anything it
makes it worse which but so so here's
why I think this started because most of
us look at this and you know we go okay
uh we can see okay if someone resisted
they did this but the Beating For What
Tyree Nichols did you know it seems like
the beating was just like the two don't
match so there's something has to be in
the middle and people are trying to fill
that middle with rumors and or maybe
people are just thinking out loud
um but if this is true this actually
makes this worse so um it actually makes
this worse that it was it was like a
personal kidnapping and beating and if
anything the charges should be enhanced
um I don't want to go down this Rabbit
Hole too far but could it would be that
one officer had this personal personal
Vendetta started it and then the
officers just did this just followed
along because this is just how they act
there this is this is how this is how
they conduct themselves I don't know um
okay that's all I'm gonna say about that
case um obviously we're gonna be
following this case for the next couple
years this is the um uh worse than the
George Floyd case in my mind and I'm
glad that there weren't riots and that
most people's businesses and homes were
pretty safe okay next case I want to
talk about so this is the Anthony Lowe
so this is the case that I thought was
interesting and again put in the
comments if you think that I'm right
track wrong track on this because
um I had a couple different
conversations about this case um so
Anthony Lowe Huntington California
um so I I again I don't understand the
controversy of this case it's it's my
opinion and I'm gonna stick with this
opinion that the facts of a specific
case are just more important than the
victim status of any of the participants
in a particular case and here's why I
make that statement about this case is
because Anthony Lowe is a double amputee
so he had both legs amputated above the
knee which is called a transformal a
trans trans femoral amputation Mr Lowe
uses a wheelchair however he can still
move around pretty quickly on his
residual limbs um so he had a couple
different he had amputations on legs
above the knee but he is still able to I
guess kind of walk
um on his residual limbs what he has
left um so that's kind of what we're
going with this so there was a call for
service um in in Huntington California
that an individual was stabbed um here's
what the police knew going into this is
that the victim told police officers
that they were stabbed by someone the
description they gave is someone in a
wheelchair got out of a wheelchair was
armed with a 12-inch butcher knife
approached them stabbed them for no
reason then got back on the wheelchair
and left the scene now again just
because that's what the initial caller
says or the information police have
certainly that doesn't mean that that is
a hundred percent true otherwise cases
wouldn't be investigated and police
would just listen to whatever the
original 9-1-1 caller said but that was
with the information police had so now
the the job of the police is still you
know surprisingly to a lot of people to
apprehend people who commit violent
felonies right that's still a thing
police do so police officers get unseen
now they have a description of the
subject so if they describe me a 40 year
old white guy who has really really
gray hair I mean you know there
could be a lot of people depending where
you are who look like me but in this
situation there's not a whole lot of
people who are in a wheelchair holding a
12-inch butcher knife you know there's
not a lot of neighborhoods in the
country where that combination is going
to be a thing so police officers get
unseen you know within a block or so of
where the stabbing happened they found
Mr Mr Lowe who is in a wheelchair armed
with a giant knife so it's reasonable
the police officers at least meets
Reasonable Suspicion to detain him for
this crime hope we don't have any
disagreement there so police officers
tried to contact him they give him
commands he hops off his wheelchair and
that's why I said you know even though
he has residual limbs he can still move
pretty quickly on them I mean someone
earlier today made a comment about fat
cops you know I could line up five fat
cops I know who cannot move as fast as
Mr Lowe did um and the reason we know
this is because there was a witness who
had like a cell phone video it's not
great quality but there is some video of
this where again who knows how long he
can move quick for but I'll be honest uh
Mr Lowe moved quicker at least in a
short distance that we can see on the
video than I expected him to be able to
so um the the the the police so the
police officer they give him commands he
doesn't listen
um he hopped off the wheelchair he
starts kind of I'm using the word
running he's he kind of is running away
um yeah I should also say that there is
a a wrestling champ
um uh that he he fights in the MMA and
he's he's actually um an amputee as well
so
um yeah I mean we see this we see this
where um you know just just because
someone someone has that uh has just
because as someone
um has that the transformoral amputation
doesn't mean that they are prohibited or
you shouldn't take them as a threat if
they're armed with a knife right so
anyway so it's um so police officers
contact with him there's a progression
of force they give him commands he
doesn't listen he hops off the
wheelchair he's still armed with this
Giant Knife right then he starts running
away from the police officers they then
try to use a Taser which is reasonable
he's running away with a knife he's
committed a violent felony they try to
use a Taser I got reasonable use of
force well the taser doesn't work then
and this is what we don't know because
we don't see it because yes this caught
on video
um by a cell phone video but when the
actual shooting happens the the Mr Lowe
and the officers kind of run behind a
kind of go behind a vehicle that's
blocking the way and we don't have the
body camera footage yet so
um if what the police officers are
saying is true here's what the officer
is saying the officers are saying that
um and as he was running he stopped he
turns towards the officers he either
Advanced towards the officers with the
knife or he tried to throw it at them so
I'm gonna go on record to say that if
either of those are true so and that we
don't know because we don't have the
body camera footage yet but if the
account from the police is true that he
either charged at them with a knife or
looked like or tried to or was in the
motion of throwing the knife at the
police officers yeah deadly force is 100
True
um I mean deadly force is 100 a
reasonable thing for police officers to
do um because I mean it's it's Mr Lowe
was missing his legs not his arms um he
could still throw a knife um again so if
the body camera confirms the account of
police 100 Justified but obviously
people are going crazy about this in
California and um it's kind of like the
Micaiah Bryant case like like you know
the Makai Brian case is the 15 year old
who was killed by the police officer as
she was in the act of stabbing um
another 15 year old girl the police
officer shot and killed her um you know
that's one of those cases where I was
where there was immediate riots and
riots and protests about it so the
police department put out the body
camera footage and then everyone was
like oh okay what the cop said is true I
guess he kind of had to shoot around
there were no riots or protests after
that you know so this is the kind of
case that if the what the cops say is
true they need to release this body
camera really quickly
um because you know because he's an
amputee and because uh uh so he could be
a sympathetic victim you know um if if
if this wasn't a lawful Justified
officer involved shooting so I hope they
release the body camera footage quick
because it seems like it's a reasonable
shooting uh let's see
um officer okay uh let's see if Sergeant
Georgia how can a sort of handicapped
man who is barely able to move around
the place hold the knife to begin with
that's the only thing I wanted to answer
yeah Sergeant George I don't know if
you've seen the video um like I said
cell phone video it's not great cell
phone videos I don't know if this person
had like a flip phone or something but I
would encourage you to go to go watch uh
the short video and um yeah he hops off
the wheelchair and he he moves kind of
like runs jogs quicker than a lot of
cops uh uh that I know would be able to
so he actually moved a lot faster than
he did um officer blue gun uh yeah
tasers have a 40 percent failure rate
yeah officer blue gun thank you for
saying that that's something I've talked
about um a bunch of different times um
there's something called um uh a it's
three acronyms and then the word reports
a something something reports I can't
remember exactly I don't think it's ACM
reports they did a study on tasers um
using the Los Angeles Police Department
I believe statistics from like 2015-2018
and they found that 40 of the time that
tasers did not have the desired effect
for one reason or another officer blue
gun I know that you know this but for
other people you know because it's you
know when you fire a taser it's too
different it's it's essentially two
different um prongs that that come out
of the device both have to strike the
subject if it's too close together
they're not gonna they're not gonna have
the desired effect for the neuromuscular
incapacitation
um also if someone is wearing heavy
clothes
um you know it's possible that the the
effect of a taser isn't going to be
there um so yeah for one or you the
officer hits with one probe and misses
with the other one um anyway so yeah so
um for one reason or another do not have
the desired effect 40 of the time
meaning and I hope this is where officer
blue got APM reports thank you so much I
knew I had uh officer blue I know I had
the the it was a three it was three
three letters hey the first one was a in
reports APM reports all right so um yeah
so it's like so imagine a situation like
this where you know if you have someone
who's bearing down on you with a knife
you have a taser and you know there's a
40 chance this is gonna miss and then if
that happens I'm not gonna be able to
transition fast enough and this guy's
gonna stab me in the throat so it's
reasonable police officers would want to
avoid that what I mean by that is if
someone has a knife and they're running
away I get using a taser they turn
around they they square off and they
either move towards you or gonna throw
it that's no longer a situation for a
taser it's absolutely not a situation
for a taser um that's a deadly four
situation 100 Jeremiah Osborne less than
60 yeah I would say that's probably the
probably correct uh let's say uh
Jeremiah Osborne what's the hit range
for cops uh shooting bullets um I don't
have that research in front of me
Jeremiah that's a really good question I
have looked at it before and um and
maybe someone like officer blue gun
knows those stats but here's what I
remember from the research I've seen on
that Jeremiah is that in close quarters
combat shooting with officers like in
less than 10 feet police officers miss
about half the time so it's not great
and the reason why is because police
officers are normal people and we know
especially from the research that like
force science has done that the human
body doesn't perform great under stress
human beings aren't great under stress
and an officer involved shooting is
literally the most stressful time in
someone's life most likely most officers
go a 20 30 career with never getting
into a shooting so the 28 seconds that
someone is in a shooting probably the
most stressful 28 seconds of someone's
entire life the the the the idea or the
expectation that they're going to
perform well under that stress is isn't
a realistic performance of a human body
and we know from research that that's
just not a thing so yeah in close
quarters combat less than 10 feet I
think cops miss about half the time
um yeah so hang on so uh 2006 analysis
which is examine a number of major
Metropolitan Police Department shootings
through the 80s and 90s found that hits
rarely exceed 50 percent
um okay so uh yeah we just uh we our
producers here just looked that up and
um what I remember about the research is
correct and I didn't know the I didn't
know the exact number uh let's see um
uh let's see James Echo after all these
uh let's see okay uh all right okay so
next case Okay so that was the last uh
okay the next thing I want to talk about
it's not a not a use of force case this
case is actually
um this this this this case is actually
um actually terrible um we had a police
officer who died in the line of duty and
um the circumstances around these you
know sometimes they're it's always it's
always tragic when that's it's always
tragic when a police officer loses their
life um but you know it when the officer
doesn't even have a chance um or Anne
Bush um a lot of us take that you know
even like you're not even given the guy
or girl a fair fight so um this happened
in Selma California a couple days ago
officer Gonzalo Carrasco
um he's 24 years old police officer he
was on his he had two years on the
department
um on his way to being being a father he
was shot and killed this week um uh some
of the some of the information that we
have so far is that essentially he was
on patrol
um in the city Tuesday
um on day shift I think it was around
lunch time a woman flagged him down um
he did what a good police officer should
do is someone Flags you down you stop
you know a lot of times a lot of police
officers someone will flag them down and
as they're going by they'll wave they'll
be like I don't want to deal with
whatever their problem is but um officer
uh Carrasco is a good officer and he did
the right thing he got out contact the
woman the woman said hey there's someone
suspicious who's in my in my cartilage
area in my house in in my in my front
yard
um uh so she requested police assistance
um he decided to help her out which
again is absolutely what police officers
should do so um he essentially um exited
his vehicle as he exited his vehicle he
started to walk over to the individual
who was on the woman's property and
without warning without notice the
person took out a gunshot and killed him
um officer Costco didn't even have a
time to draw out and fire any return
shots this was essentially an ambush the
woman who called police
um I mean I there's no indication from
what I said that she was involved or
anything like that so um this was
absolutely uh absolutely a um uh an
ambush it was it was horrific
um suspect was arrest tested a short
time later he faces multiple charges
such as murder felon in possession of a
firearm as well as a probation violation
so our hearts go out to the family of
officer crossco and um yeah if anyone
has earned a Memphis style beating it's
a it's it's that guy uh last thing I'm
going to talk about today is uh uh a
little more on Memphis so I I mentioned
the I mentioned the George Floyd case
earlier today this case is in in my
opinion this is this is like Daniel
shaver-esque um this is Randall uh War
Chester type stuff where this is just an
unnecessary uh um use of force by police
officers and you know it's easy to just
blame the police officers and when it
comes to criminal charges we should as I
said a couple times say the criminal
charges are absolutely appropriate but
when something like this happens and
when it seems like the officers are just
so comfortable doing it it screams that
there's something more systematic about
it so not taking the blame from the
police officer again they absolutely
should be charged no issue there I think
they should be charged and fit and face
the max whatever it is because this was
absolutely horrific but there's probably
other things going on in that City and
if the Department of Justice comes in
this is the kind of things that they're
going to look at so let's let's look at
Memphis just a little bit so Memphis so
earlier this year I wrote an article I
talked about some of the most violent
cities in America and in my research in
my research I I found that Memphis was
one of the top most violent cities in
the country and that's something that I
didn't realize this was I think I did
that I wrote the article back in early
October and this is something I hadn't I
hadn't realized I didn't know that
Memphis was such a violent city you know
I've been studying criminal justice
related issues and bachelor's degree
being a police officer Masters in law
school for again over 20 years and I
just didn't realize that Memphis was one
of these really violent cities um so
let's let's let's put some of the
violence in context right so in 2022
Memphis had 302 homicides um and again
was that a lot or a little you know it's
like the thing in Seinfeld where the
where the the chicken runs and Kramer
goes though the the the the chicken ran
from my house to Newman's house in 18
seconds and Jerry goes is that good and
Kramer goes I don't know so it's like
without context it doesn't make a whole
lot of sense so um in in Memphis you
know 302 murders Memphis has
approximately 600 000 residents okay so
let's compare that to other cities
um that also have around 600 000
residents not nice reasonable cities
let's take Albuquerque New Mexico so I
always talk about Albuquerque if you
watch Breaking Bad that's about right
Albuquerque New Mexico is almost always
one of the top 10 most violent
metropolitan areas in the country
Albuquerque has around 550 000 people so
Albuquerque New Mexico is about the same
size as Memphis last year Albuquerque
New Mexico set a record set a record
with how many homicides they had and
they had 120 120. Memphis had 302 last
year so again Albuquerque one of the top
10 most violent cities set a record with
120 last year Memphis had two and a half
times more homicides so when I say it's
unbelievably unbelievably violent
um and when I say it's unbelievably
violent um so I think okay so you know
what I okay so the uh it was actually so
if we take the City of Albuquerque it
was 120 but if we take the county and
kind of the metro area
um and other shootings that are ruled
Justified it was about 173 in
Albuquerque but at least with the City
of Albuquerque is reporting which again
isn't may not be correct but mostly
going by what the city of Memphis is
reporting so 120 versus 302. so um again
a similar sized violent city you can see
how violent Memphis is in comparison
um the other way I'm going to put this
into context is New York City is 14
times when it comes to population New
York City is 14 times larger than
Memphis they only had 418 murders last
year there were 14 New York City is 14
times bigger than Memphis they only had
110 more murders I mean so the the
violence in Memphis is absolutely crazy
so so I just want to leave people with
this thought is it any surprise that
Memphis Police who are tasked with
fighting this violence this unnecessary
violence are using unnecessary violence
um as a way to achieve their objective
and stopping violent crime not saying
it's Justified it's not but the fact
that Memphis is so violent I think that
breeds a place where police officers
feel like sometimes that they have to
use violence as well so again it's not
justified it's criminal but um you
wouldn't expect police officers in
really nice areas that have no crime to
to act like this so there's something
more systematic and Sinister going on in
Memphis and my guess is the doj is going
to be there very soon to figure it all
out and more so if you are a reasonable
police officer in Memphis it's time to
start looking for other jobs
um and you know that's going to be our
show today so um that we I know we did
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