I just pulled up on this. >> I didn't hear I I was on the phone. I don't know why they didn't hold this for me, but that's fine. >> They paid for uh service at Mercedes and 5 minutes later actual credit card. Okay. >> Hold her. >> Who do you want to talk to? >> Hello. She's She's got the one with the questions. They don't make look I don't know what she did. I will show you my bail payment to her which I bailed her the other day cuz when she gave me the car it was rag you know was messed up. So I told her like anytime something go wrong with this car you got to pay for it. So I gave her my portion of it cuz we decided to go half this time cuz I dropped my car off before. Okay, >> you know and something was wrong with it and she paid for it. But this time, you know, I couldn't say if it was me or her as far as a tire problem. So, I went half of her semi 750 and I dropped it off. They gave me a rental and that was it. So, what she did, I don't know. I will call her, but that didn't have nothing to do with me. You know, they have her name and information. When I dropped it off, they know that. But they could have just told me that. You know, they calling the police and stuff. This I could have figured this out on I think I think it might depend on how the car got declined. Sometimes those show up as just a decline charge, like your car doesn't have money on it. And sometimes it shows up as >> You should have just saved that. >> I know. But sometimes it shows up as fraud, which they won't tell you that cuz if someone's trying to defraud them, they're not going to tell you. >> Okay. >> Right. Like that's why we I take calls here all the time for these. >> Oh, really? >> But you can't like still they're still out money. So you can't take the car. We got to we got to resolve this. Otherwise, you're taking a car without paying for it. There'd be a theft of service. You paid somebody else. The business is out money right now. So I >> I believe I believe you. Right. >> Well, she told me she she showed me a screenshot. >> I know. I know, right? But they they are still out money right now. So if you are leaving, it's like a theft of a service. I believe that you sent them the money. We can probably resolve that. But there's no way. >> Send me a screenshot showing that it was paid for. >> Okay. Then we need to Let's Let's take a look at that. Let's go back to the dealership. Let's look at the screenshot. We'll compare it to the card and everything that was on there. And then we There's probably a quick answer to it. >> Like there there really is. And that's another thing actually just said that they don't even make >> I I agree with you. It might >> they call you. >> I I've taken four fraud reports from the car dealerships over the past week cuz I work in this area. They're very skittish about it. Especially if someone were to show up cuz usually the frauds happen online. So like the exact same thing that happened where she made an online payment and then it declined. It's like cookie cutter fraud. It It's what they do all the time. So it's probably just a mixup, right? But let's go back. Let's take a look at the screenshot. >> See that? It was >> right there. Let me here. Show me. Go ahead and show me that. Well, look. >> Hey, want me to call her on the phone? >> I The problem is is that I don't see >> Do you see Do you see the number? Do you remember the number that they had? That was >> I literally just pulled up. He's like, "That's okay. I They We don't even have the information from them yet because when they saw you driving away, that's why we scooped. That's why I flipped on you and and knocked >> you on us. Let's do this." I know. Look, and I there's probably a very easy answer to it. Either she put in the wrong wrong card or her card was in a credit limit or something like that or because of the distance and time sometimes banks just like cuz where's she at? Where is she staying? >> She lives in like 10 points, Illinois, something like that. >> So, it's far away, right? Like like sometimes the credit card companies I I just bought a new car. Like I was getting phone calls from my creditors all the time because they wanted to know why my accounts were pros all sorts of stuff. So, >> let's go let's go back so we can see that. compare it to what they have. >> What's that? >> You can, but it'll be like we need to go back and see their documents, too, to make sure that that one matches up with the same one. >> Okay. >> So, here's what I'm going to do. >> What's your Do you have an idea on your What's your first name? >> So, let's do this. >> I have to get to work. So, how fast is it? >> The quickest way is going to go back there, too. Cuz what I don't want to see happen is that if you were to drive off with the car under the understanding of payment, then they start looking at this. It's like a theft of services because they still don't have any money. >> I think it could have the money. >> No, but that what they're telling us is that that transaction once it went through and she goes, "Hey, payment made." >> They got they got the notice that it was declined. >> So, it went through, but then the credit card company called and said, "Hey, we're not going to authorize that payment." So, I think something's up with her card. >> That would be my guess. >> Well, let's guess from I'm not going to lie. From here, if they whatever they don't figure out, I will pay for it. But, I'm going to need my card. This is my card. Okay. >> If you wanted to pay if you wanted to pay for the whole thing and then get square with her later, you can do that, too. That's actually probably the quickest way to get out of here. >> Or if it's quick for her, >> cuz she told me it's paid for it. So, I'm going to turn around. >> We're going to compare that. We'll figure out what the differential is and why there was a problem. And then if there's a way to solve it with either you paying for the whole thing or her calling back and using another car, whatever it is, I'm giving you the options cuz they're going to have no problem as long as they get their money and how how it squares away. What time you got to get to? >> I was supposed to be there at 2:30 and they was taking all day and they were acting a little weird. >> Okay, >> but they could have just waited saying, "Hey, blah blah blah." I would have said, "You know what? I don't know." You know, they sent me the link. I sent it to her because I sent her my money. >> All right. >> Hold on. Is she going to do a U-turn? >> Yeah. >> Hey, let me call you back. She I'll stop the other Yeah. So, they got a call from North Carolina from a woman saying, "My card is fraudulently used at your dealership." Like, what is going on? >> Oh, there might be more to this thing. Okay. >> So, can you tell me what's going on? So, we got uh a credit card dispute for fraud fraudulent charge on Friday. >> Okay. >> For customer whose car was actually in for service. >> Okay. >> As of now. >> Okay. >> Um so I was working through that car owner claimed fraud. Names didn't match that whole whole shebang. this morning she paid online and it wasn't 5 minutes later we got a call from a lady in North Carolina saying hey you just hit my credit card for 1534.92 or whatever it was live in North Carolina never been in Illinois none of this jives so we went looking the invoice dollar amount and the payment match that invoice for that same client again >> so >> so she was in in June that credit card got disputed as fraud So her car. Okay. So she's essentially using she's done this twice now where it's been >> second time where it's it appears to be stolen credit cards. >> Credit cards to pay for service for her actual vehicle. >> Correct. Correct. It's her vehicle. Okay. >> But there the name like the one in June the name didn't match. >> Uh the one today I won't I won't see the name till it batches at night. >> Okay. >> But the lady called from North Carolina gave me phone number name. So if you need anything feel free to call me. I'll dispute it when it posts but I got to wait till it post. >> Sure. Do you have the information from the last one? Has that been um reported? Like did you guys get report to us for that? >> No, I I just got that one today and I was waiting. >> I'll send it off to my office. They dispute it with Chase >> and then Chase, you know, does their thing and then I'll I'll shoot it back. >> So, I haven't gotten back to Chase yet, but I've got the original fraud like the Chase the Chase Pay Tech. Hey, somebody's claiming it. Do you have the invoice >> for what was done for the car and all that stuff? >> Okay. >> But she pulled off like so she had paid it went through and then she pulled away. >> It paid online. So she did it from like home or whatever. >> Gotcha. >> It's an online pen. >> Okay. And then she just picked up her car. >> We slow played pulling her car up cuz I was waiting for the other officer show up. as soon as she saw like turned her head and saw the [ __ ] but she was acting like she had hands in her pants, you know. As soon as she pulled in it was I need my car. I need my car. I need my car. I need my car. >> Um so this is today's invoice for actually have a customer copy. >> Okay. >> Her name is Skyler. >> That is her name. >> Camp Point Illinois. >> I don't know where the hell that is. If you do, I'd be really impressed. >> Okay. Um, this is the customer or not the customer but the the today's credit card owner. That's her phone number. That's her name. >> And she's in North Carolina, but that hit her Apple card today. >> All right, cool. >> I'm guy right here cuz I'm this >> we got to go inside and compare this to the paperwork unless you want me to take your phone and everything with you. >> So, let's let's go. Let's go in here. What you can't give permission to park it because I need to see it. >> Why you can't just I can't just park >> in the handicap spot. That's fine. So, if anything, we'll just come through because she's saying her sister paid online. I don't really know how that works. I don't know if her sister has a or however that works. Um, and yeah, because it sounds like the sister got somehow fraudulently got this card number and paid online. >> It's either simpler than it seems or it's more complicated, but >> I'm not sure where we're at yet. So, >> I know you have a you have a transaction declined or what was the what was the >> So, it never got declined. It went through online as an online bill pay. >> Okay. And then >> it was an Apple card. >> It was an Apple card. Late called from North Carolina saying, "When my family got it at your store, I live in North Carolina. Never been to Illinois in my life. This is the bottle now." >> Okay. >> Supposedly, >> does it? >> Yes. >> Skyler's sister. >> I guess if it wasn't declined, what would do you have the card for the transaction then? The one that's got Does it have any parts of the card on it? She's showing me a receipt that's on her phone. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, she's going to have the >> I know, but I'm trying to see what it is. I'm trying to see even the card match or what she I don't know what she's showing me right now. >> I just want to bang it. I just balance it out with this. >> She's saying >> she's going to she's going to have the receipt. She cart. >> I know. I don't even know me though. She could be just pulling up a random one. I have no idea what the dollar I haven't seen anything. >> Her name is >> Yes. Last thing >> last. >> That's the dispute from the previous one. >> This one a previous one. >> Stay there. >> Like you mean the one that just happened? >> No, this one from June. >> I'm in my office. >> Hey, don't let her >> Oh, okay. All right. All right. She's not She is >> She is >> She's being detained so she can call her boss right there. >> My sister paid for this. >> I know. >> I don't understand the problem. Why wouldn't y'all run this past me before call? I don't know what's going on either. >> We're trying to figure this out. >> You know this. Just say something to me about it. What? >> He did not leave us right now. >> Are you off the phone with work? This is a longer conversation, so we might want to go inside. I'm just being I'm being honest with you. >> I'm having to get some work. Why y'all can't call her? >> I know. No, Jasmine, you're the one that's here with this. We need we need to talk. >> I don't I look, I got to get to work. I'm not sitting here dealing with that. I'm not going to lie. I don't have nothing to do with Jasmine. I'm I'm telling you right now, if you if you drive away, I promise there's going to be a criminal charge against you. >> For what? >> Because I'm looking at the documents that they have and they're showing me it's way more complicated than what you were explaining to me. >> So, let's come back. >> Come on. No. >> I don't want to shout across you. >> No. I thought I thought Somebody >> I thought nobody has called them. We need to make sure we call them first to find out what to do with >> this one. What's your sister's name? >> We don't have that information. >> Who is Who is Sherah Willard? >> That's my teacher. >> Who is it? >> Is she the one who made the payment then? >> I think she was my auntie. >> Okay. That's Does your auntie know? >> Here. Let me I'm going to tell you exactly what happened. Okay. Like this is just moment by moment. You come here for the service. >> You You have your sister come and pay for the card. This card gets used and then if Cara will your auntie. >> Yeah. >> She calls here and then says my card was just used here. I don't know why. >> Oh, she must tell. >> So she said this is a fraudulent transaction. She called here right away. >> I'm not right now. I'm telling you, you're not free to go until we resolve this. >> She said I am. They want to do whatever they want to do. That's fine. >> No, I'm telling you right now, you're not free. She did not know what I knew. I'm telling you right now. >> So, what what that what does it have to do? >> Because you're the one here that was getting service on your car, taking a car that's rightfully theirs to hold until it's paid for. >> It's not right. This is right. >> No, not not when you drop it off for payment. It' be a theft of service if you were to drive away from here right now. >> I'm telling you right now, Jasmine, if you were to drive away from here before I could resolve this, and I think I'm getting some answers to this, right? If this is your auntie's card and it was declined or they didn't tell her what she was being used, then that's easy to fix and then everybody gets to go. But it's not fixed if you drive if you drive away in this car right now, I'm just going to get a warrant for theft of services. It doesn't matter who is paying for what. >> Why get a warrant on my >> because you because when you drop the car off, I don't care who's paying it online. If I if I drop my car off at the Honda dealership and my dad's like, "I'll hook you up and I'll pay." And then my dad doesn't do it and I take away the car. I just stole services from them even though he said he's be good. I'm going to have a conversation with them about that. I'm going to get upset, right? There's going to be a way to resolve this. But right now, this is the this is the problem for this. >> Okay. >> Well, I don't I can't give them $1,500. I'm not saying that you have to do that, but then you need to start. We need to go inside because right now they don't know that she is possibly related to this. >> I'm taking your word right now at this part and then I'm going to verify that. >> I'm not understanding that's what's going on. >> Can you hang on just a second? >> Hello. >> Is this Cara? This is Officer Christensen with the neighborhood police. >> Is this Cara? >> Hi. I'm calling cuz I I'm I'm here at the Mercedes-Benz dealership in our town here in Neighborville and I I think we're trying to work through like a credit card issue here right now. Um Okay. Did you get anything further clarified from your bank at all? Your It was an Apple Pay card >> the dispute, but it'd be 21 days um before it could be processed, I guess, because you're still like investigating it. >> Okay. the car. I So, we're we're here at the dealership. The car was used for someone that was actually picking up a vehicle. Do you know anyone in Illinois at all? >> I No, I don't know anybody. And it's so it's kind of weird. Apple cards don't have Apple. So, it's like you have a physical card. It doesn't have a card number on it or anything. And you have to have like that person's access to their Apple ID and everything. So, it's kind of weird that the charge was used in person and not online. >> Well, it was it it was an online purchase, but it was someone who was making their payment online. They said that a family member was making a payment. That's why that's why I'm trying to put all this together. >> Oh, yeah. Someone would have had to got my online my virtual corn that is through Apple. They would have had to get that information. I haven't made a purchase on that card in a little while. >> All right, Cara. So, it sounds like you're going to probably obviously you need to make the report with your local department as well if you needed to, but you're kind of involved in this police report too at the same time right now. How do you spell your last name? >> Um, >> and also they um because I had to reset my uncle ID, all of my information, Apple, and they um >> so they also changed my card number, everything because of all this so it's not used again. >> No, no, no. That that makes sense and that they're pretty that that sounds like normal procedure for your bank. I handle a lot of cases like this. So, um yeah. So, just to be very clear, does does the name Skyler mean anything to you? >> No. >> Uh how about anybody named Jasmine? >> No. >> No. Not at all. >> No. >> All right. Um and you said this is the best I'm going to reach yet. >> It is. >> I think that's the only question that I have for you right now. I might call and follow up later. I'm still kind of dealing with this in progress, but I wanted to reach out with you and just to make sure some of that stuff. >> Okay. And I'm I'm pretty available at any time. >> Okay, sounds good. The the number I called you on is my department cell phone. So, if you have any questions, you can call that back. If I don't answer, it could be because I'm on another call or maybe I'm like it's my day off or something like that. But, um I'll try and double back with you one way or the other. >> Okay, sounds good. >> Thank you so much. The driver's license that I'm looking at a copy of yours is Camp Point, Illinois. We're seeing told maybe out by Quincy. >> She's supposed to get her on the phone. At this point, her financial coming out. >> They're coming out. >> So, what's going on? >> Well, so I had uh I called the number that reported it as fraud. >> It is not your sister or your auntie. >> That's her. I just probably back here. >> No, we're going to go back here. We're We're here to try to work out some of the insurance stuff. What's going on, too? So, I'm just going to I'm going to be with you guys while we're try to figure all this out. >> Yeah. So, why didn't you just tell me that that was going on? >> Now, Jasmine, what I what I told you out there is absolutely true. I'm I'm I'm just You can I'm going to repeat it back as I understand it. So, you said that this is Skyler's car. >> My sister. Exactly. >> Okay. Your sister. >> Where is she at right now? She lives in Quincy. >> Okay. Is this her? Is this her driver's license? >> Okay. How come there's no record of that? >> I I ran this driver's license. There's no record on her license at all. I can't I can't even find a name. Well, look, >> you're driving her car because >> this is the way it involves you, too. So, okay. How do you And you pay her? >> No, I don't pay her. I have like a app that I pay through the current like five something a month. >> Where's Where's Where's Cara live? >> Who? >> Where's Cara? >> Cara? That's her auntie. I don't know. She just I called her in front of the other officer. I said >> I think I think we might be having some crosswires because I don't think who I talked to on the phone that reported their card. >> And that's what I'm saying. I think she's lying to me. >> Who? >> Skyler. Because I asked her like, "So when I tell you the money, who car did you use? Yours or your boyfriend?" Or what did you do, Skylar? Don't lie to me cuz the police is here looking at me like I'm crazy. >> You're in the house right now. >> And I'm in the hospital. Yeah. And you don't And I'm grown. Don't lie to me about nothing cuz it's not that serious. You like I swear I use TTK blah blah. I said, "So, why are they saying that it's a lie?" >> So, the car I'm I'm telling you exactly what it is. The car >> I believe you >> the car that was run the car that was run was another woman's Apple card, their ID card. I was like, "Their Apple Pay." >> Oh, I don't know. >> And that's how it came in. So, they she called the dealership cuz she goes, "I've never been to Illinois. I don't know anybody in Illinois. And now my car's being run." >> Listen, sir. I'm going to be 100% honest with you. I put my card, my driver's license and everything on file. Before I walked out with my car, I told the guy, "Charge my card for the gas cuz I didn't get up filling the loaner card." >> My card. You know, I I would have gave them my card if I felt like, you know, she was doing I don't know what she >> Do you know? Do you know where Skyler bought the car? Is she buying her? >> Oh, no. I don't think so. >> She not from >> Okay. >> Yeah. And is this from their record when they made that purchase? That's what they did. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Yeah, it was scanning the deal. >> All right. So, do you have questions for him? Cuz I'm trying to work out I'm trying to work out the financial side of this. >> Well, the financial side is I got a job. I work at Rush Hospital. You know, I can pay for the car. I'm pissed off cuz I gave her this the thing. When I got the car from her, there was a lot of stuff wrong with it. So I told her from here on out with me paying this note if something come up you're going to have to help me. So by this tire issue I was kind of being fair with her like well I don't know if I did something with you so let's go have >> she's like cool just me the 750 and I'll just take care of it. So I the 750 and that was that. She called to make sure it was done. She told me a little weird but you know I'm not thinking nothing of it. I'm just like okay maybe that's just boring or something. I don't know. So when I just caught her, I'm like, why are they saying this is fraudulent? I don't play that. You know, I have a good job. I have three kids. You know what I'm saying? I don't got time for this mix up. >> My only problem was y'all could have just said something to me and we could have wor something out as far as payment cuz I can I don't want you to be upset at him. >> I'm not upset. No, I'm not upset. >> But I told I told you why they're not going to tell you that. >> Because they think you're dealing with a criminal at this point. So because the call came in as a stolen card. So they're not going to tell you that. Okay. >> They never tell you that. That's why they called us. >> Hell yeah. Cuz now I got to call my mom and say, "What the is Skyler doing?" You know, she got me in the police pulling me over and I don't have time for that. You know, I'm on my third strike at work cuz I was supposed to be there at 2:30. Now it's this stuff, you know. So I'm kind of mad. Anyway though, I get paid Friday. I don't mind paying for the car, but I need a transportation. I have two kids. I can't just, you know, not get around >> here. I can't give you a car, though. >> He just told me that I was supposed to get a loaner. >> Yeah, but the car's done. And I'm not going to let you take a loner car with the situation that we're in. Because not only do we have this invoice, we have another invoice. >> Who got another invoice >> for this car? >> I don't have another invoice for this car. What invoice? >> There's an invoice when the car was in here in June. That is now an issue, too. >> What do you mean? >> When the car was in here in June. when that'll have nothing to do with who brought who brought it in for service that day. >> We both came. I remember that that's when it was her car. Yeah. >> Right. But do you see that? I know I'm not saying that you're responsible for that, but I'm saying you don't >> they're not going to give you a loan or car because you can't pay for the service that gets done. If you're paying for service getting done, they're going to hook you up in the meantime and be able to give you a vehicle. >> But just because the financials aren't working out is not a good enough reason for any >> financial is working out. She's going to have to I mean, right now it's not. Right now it's not. I've got I've got a woman out of North Carolina telling me that I've got a stolen card. >> I've got >> this qu I've got two invoices here now that are having issues with the payment, >> right? >> So, like this is like we we both the dealership and the police need answers for this, >> right? I mean, I can only give you what I know as far as me dropping my car off them telling me 1,500 or something like that. Yeah, >> like I said, I can come pay that Friday, but y'all going to have to do that other with her >> here. At the end of the day, car's been released. I'm not putting on a payment plan. That's not That's not how that flies. >> What you mean? The car has been released? >> Yeah, you have the car. >> No, no, no, no. Hold on. The >> the car the car is the car is done with its work. But right now, because of the the >> So, are you giving me my car >> right now? I'm pretty sure the police are going to be holding on to the car until we can get it resolved because right now like >> well if they're willing to our financial crimes unit is coming out here to look at this cuz this has now gone past what I've got. >> Fine. But if they give me my car, why can't I keep my car? >> Because right now I have no idea about I'm telling you right now. I don't know who I don't know who Skyler is. >> Okay, >> cuz she doesn't have a valid driver's license. So I have no idea where that comes from. I don't know where it's registered to. I don't know where the insurance is coming back to on it. And then and then right now like as you're driving it like all of this is connected to this other financial side of things that ends up being very very complicated. >> What you mean? >> There's a stolen card that was used to pay for your work today. >> You're the one in the car. >> Car. There's a stolen card. Stolen account information that was used to pay for your work today. And going like this is not an excuse. I mean, >> you can't just say, "I guess it's up to somebody else." >> It's not an excuse, but I mean, how do you expect me to know what she did? They have my card, you know? I want to just >> by being in the car and you picking it up, you have a responsibility to know what's going on with it. >> I do. But this is the thing. >> If you borrow somebody's car and there's a brick of cocaine in the back, guess what? That's not your brick of cocaine in the back. >> Yeah, you're right about that. >> You have to be responsible for what's in it, who's in it, how you're handling it, and then the finances that are related to it. But if he's not holding my car, I don't understand why y'all holding my car. >> Right now, the best I can figure out is your car is registered to somebody who doesn't exist because I don't have Skyler here. Skyler's driver's license that she provided when she paid for the car in the first place isn't coming back to anybody. >> Okay. >> So, I have no idea who that is. So, this is why I'm kind of asking you. You're you're pointing to people that I can't talk to. >> I just had her on the phone. >> I know, but I don't know who I'm talking to on the phone. >> What you mean? I just >> She come here. She can come to the police department and try to explain it if she wants to. >> You want her to come all the way from Quincy? I mean, I will tell her to when that >> if it's her car and she's responsible for the payments. Yeah, that is going to be the request at some point. >> Okay. >> I don't want I don't want to put the cart before the horse on that, right? So, I'm going to wait to talk to some of the other detectives. >> So, who's taking my car? >> Uh, right now that's undecided. I'll let you know, though. Right now, >> because if he's not right now, just like I told you, >> this is my car. I done paid almost $2,000. >> It's not your car. It's register. >> Yeah, but I done paid the car. I done gave her 750. I done got two new back. This is my car. >> From a legal perspective, it's not. It's Skyler's car cuz that's who it's registered to. >> Yeah, but if it's mine because I didn't paid for it. >> Okay. Skyler can tell me that when it comes down to show it because I actually don't have any idea who Skyler is. I have no idea who >> But what does that have to do with >> Because you're here with the car. You >> I paid her for it. Not only did I just pay all that stuff, I gave her the $1,500 payment. >> I don't care. Do you do you have any questions for him about the >> I mean, he said that it's released. So now that was the reason on why you're not getting a loaner because it's done for its service. That's what he means by release. Is that correct? Correct. >> That doesn't mean that you're free to go and take it because we're still connected to all these other things that I'm investigating that we're looking into. >> Okay. >> So the quicker if you have answers to this, the quicker we get to them, the quicker we can find. >> What is not answered? >> What's answered is who paid for it? Where did that card come from? Who's Skyler? Where is it? No, Skyler didn't pay for it. >> She did pay for >> No, that's what she told me. Look, like Jasmine, she didn't car, which is not her auntie. I just talked with her on the phone. I just talked with her. It's not >> And listen, I don't know. I know I sailed my payment. How whatever she did, I have absolutely no clue on how >> And who' you sell? >> Huh? Skyler. >> Who is Skyler? Cuz I'm telling you, I'm running Skyler's driver's license and it's not coming back. I don't have to lie to you about that. >> Get her on the phone. Skyler, what is going on? Cuz they trying to say that here you you're on speaker phone with the police right now. Neighborville police. Is this Skyler? >> Yes. >> Skyler, what's your last name? >> What's going on? >> Skyler, what's your last name? >> Girl, tell them your last. >> How do you spell it? >> Tell them your birthday and tell them what's going on. I'm trying to figure out what's going on. >> No, because Skyler Skyler right now the question is what's your birthday? >> What year? >> Skyler, what >> Christensen? You're here with Detective Maldonado as well. Your sister's here at the car dealership cuz she was trying to pick up a car. She is here because you told her that it was getting paid for it, right, Jasmine? >> Yeah, she did. >> And the payment was then called in by somebody else saying that my card was used here and that person doesn't live in this state. So, right now, your sister's sitting in the hot seat for this and she's pointing to you. >> So, what did you do? Did you What What What is it that you did? Just you want me to take your speaker? My my boyfriend I use my boyfriend card. I don't know. I What's the problem? >> The problem name? What? What's your boyfriend's name? >> Skyler, I don't have time for this. You about to have me in trouble for some stuff you did. I sent you the 750 and I trusted you with my money. If I knew you was going to do some crazy stuff, I wouldn't even did all that. So, just tell what's going on. Just Just say it. I mean, I I don't You got me looking crazy. I don't have time for this. Look, what did you do? Who car did you use? >> I'm telling. Okay, I use my boyfriend card. >> You didn't use your boyfriend, >> Skyl. Skyler, you didn't use your boyfriend's card. I know that. Or your boyfriend didn't use his own card. So, let's let's let's come clean on this cuz Jasmine's sitting here right now dangerously close to having to come with me to the police department. And if there's an answer to this, I know you don't want to do that to her. >> She did give me her money. I'm not as honest. She did my her money and I paid. >> I have no I have no doubt about that either. She showed me the zel stuff, but that doesn't mean that the money actually got to the car dealership, which is the problem here. >> You know what? I'mma call I'mma call mama. >> Hold on. Let's talk. I want Skyler. Skyler, tell me what's going on right now. >> Andre. >> Andre. Is it a A N D R E? >> A N D R E. Yeah. >> What's his last name? I So who who bought this car originally? >> I paid it for my sister. My sister asked me. >> No, I mean when the car was Skyler when the when the car was originally bought. >> See, as is it your car or not? That's basically what you're saying. >> Yeah, it's my car. >> Where'd you buy it? >> What? What is going on? [Music] >> Because basically they trying to figure out what's why did you use Sky, let's let's let's reset one more time here, too. Cuz when I I'm telling you right now, I'm looking at a copy of a driver's license that looks like you looks like it's yours, and I don't have any record of it in the law enforcement system. So, where do you currently have a driver's license at? >> Jack. >> What was that? I'm sorry. >> In Quincy. >> In Quincy. What's your birthday for real? I'll tell you her birthday. >> Well, I' I'd really like to have you come in and talk about it further more than anything else. >> See if mama See if mama can send you a plane ticket and I'll pick you up from the station cuz you going to have to come get this figured out. >> I thought you said you lived in Quincy. >> I said a plane and I'm playing train tickets. >> Oh, I said plane. >> I probably did. >> No, I mean the train tickets. Call her and I'mma work. >> Okay. Hey, when you get off, call her and see cuz I'll pick I will pick you up tonight. You need to get this figured out cuz this is too much. I don't have time for this. >> Okay. >> So, you need to call her. Huh? >> Just so you know, until she's here, you're not taking part. Okay? >> And they not going to give it to me till you get here. So, call me. >> Figure that out and call me back. >> Okay. Um, also the phone number that's on the file, she claims as her sister Skyler, that phone number is on it in the trunk. Um, that is under her name, Jasmine Blank. Uh, >> so that phone number she gave me this phone number. >> Is this even a real press? >> Where's your phone? Um, >> do you have your phone with you? >> Can you pull it out? I want to see the number that's on it. >> Didn't you have a pink case? >> Yeah, I'll take it off. I got two phones. That's my work phone. >> Oh, >> what you want to see? >> I want to see the number that go to your profile. See the Apple ID and everything else. Go to the phone number information. >> Okay. >> For both phones. >> Okay. [Music] Who is this? >> My phone is in his my phone is in his name. That's why I >> Okay. How about How about the other phone? >> How about your your work? >> Yeah. >> For the coal. I think he said it comes back to her. >> It's probably not going to pop back. >> There's no info in there. >> This my work phone. I just >> What happens if you call somebody? Where did it show up as? >> What you want me to call you? >> I this my work phone. I can't disclose. >> Okay, that's fine. 331. Call me so see what number it comes up as. >> No, you did star 67. It's not going to show up. That's why Come on. You got to tell me what number it is. >> I can't give you I cannot give you this number. >> I'm not going to I'm the police. I'm not calling your employer. >> Okay. 815. I can't >> I will explain it to your employer. >> I can't do that. >> Then I'll have to go to your employer to get what that number is. >> That's fine. Okay. And then they're going to want to know what all this stuff is on top of this. >> That's fine, but I can't I That's just part of HIPPA. I can't do that. >> It's not HIPPA. I have to I have to live by HIPPA. HIPPA is when you're sharing medical information back and forth. That's not part of You're not sharing any medical information, anything that's my contact number. Okay, look. >> I can't do that. >> Jasmine, here. I'm telling you what the alternative is. Because of all of this stuff being connected, I take your phones and they become part of a subpoena. >> What do you mean? I absolutely can. You're in possession of it. I can take it. I absolutely can. >> What are you doing? I don't understand this. >> Call me. Call me. I need to know that that's the number on that phone. >> I can't do that. >> Okay, then hand me the phone right now. It's going to become part of the evidence for this case. >> Why? >> Because it's part of the evidence case. I I don't have to tell you that. I'm telling you right now. >> Jasmine, call me. Call me. >> Hey, Jasmine. What's the phone? It's the phone you're using. What's >> I'm not comfortable giving him my work phone. I'm not. >> I just need the number. I don't need your phone. >> That is your work phone number. >> That's your work phone that you called your sister on. >> I called on both phones. So, >> what are like I don't get where >> All right, Scott. We're getting a little weird here because like >> I don't cuz I don't want to give him my phone. >> Well, yeah, that is kind of weird. >> I'm calling it right now and it's not dialing to you. >> What? >> That's not the number for this phone. >> It's not. Okay. Yeah, I'll just give you a number. It's the 815. >> Okay, >> here you go. >> But don't be getting my job. >> I won't I won't I won't get down. [Music] >> And now what's next? Cuz he told me I can get my stuff and go. I have to get to work. >> We're not leaving yet. We're not leaving yet. I'm telling you the truth. I'll tell you when we can. >> That's it. >> Hey, real quick. This was just bought from >> It's bought from Toyota Liberty. >> It was never here outside of getting serviced. Never. It was But there was no paperwork for it to get bought here. >> Correct. >> So, hey, >> by the way, so Skyler said that she bought it from here. >> Dude, I'm No, >> no. Yeah. >> Whoever Whoever I'm talking to, >> Skyler never said that. You were in the room, right? I asked where she bought the phone. She never got to that point. She just told me on the phone right now. I'm >> talking to her. Whoever that is. Whoever I'm talking to you right now, >> I know that's what I'm saying. I know >> the number like why why are they involving me in this so much? >> This actually comes back. Let me run to figure out if we can. You're also you're in possession of the car. So that would also be like if you are offer what I'm saying is like if you're in possession >> let's talk in the office so we're not >> really pissed me off. I mean I look I'd be I'd be pissed off too if I thought I was being told the truth about it too. Do you want him in here? >> Yeah, that's fine. >> Okay, that's fine. You can come in if you want. >> What do you want me to do? Here, >> you can come in. >> Yep. >> Look, you're you're not the number that you just called on your work phone is the number on all of the paperwork for Skyler from the >> Yes, because they have to call me to pick up the car and he knows that. >> Why in the world would that be there, too? >> They got both numbers. What do you mean? >> Skyler coming back to anything else, too. So, all right. >> So, what do you mean? >> This is the depth of it. >> What do you mean this is the depth? They have to call me to pick up the car. So they have two numbers on file. I don't have to lie about that. What do you mean? She just said >> the number just out of curiosity. The number that you just gave me before you told me the real number on that phone just called me back. Who is that? >> Who is who? That's Skyler. The 779 number. >> No, no, no. The 815. The one that you gave me before. Or no, the uh Yeah, the one that you gave me before before. >> Oh, I just was giving you a random number. >> Just make up a random number. cuz I don't want to get my job involved this with this phone. That's all it is. >> Where's your job? Where's your job? West Oakland. >> You're using You're using that phone for your car payment and everything up. >> I never used it for the car payment. >> They're calling. You said it's on here for the ID for all of the all of the work cuz they have to call. So why why would you use your >> That's a secondary number. What do you mean? They have two numbers. What do you I can tell you that. Same >> ones. That it should be two numbers. This should be seven and then this number is my work phone just in case. I don't have to You can't tie that to me just because the numbers don't a lot of ways that it can be tied to you right now. >> Ma'am, I wouldn't lie to y'all about no payment stuff. I I honestly don't know what she did. I talked to them. It's I don't know what what further do you want me to do about it. I'm not lying to you about it. I >> computer the car real quick. >> We don't know where that car actually belongs to. You're telling me you're telling me it's your sister? >> Yeah. >> But the person that bought the car looks eerily similar to you. >> That's not my bad for her. >> Listen. >> Oh, I was >> Is your sister your twin? >> She not my twin, but we sisters. You know what I'm saying? >> I can take a picture next to my brother and be like, "All right, they're brothers, but they're not the same person, >> right? That's that car don't got nothing to do." >> Do you know where like what dealership that car was buying? >> No, I don't know. >> I never asked for all that. I just asked for the payment amount. Go ahead, babe. And I sent you the code. >> Where is he at? I mean, charger. >> It's in the car. I was just charging my phone, but they end up coming out here. Go have a Uber home, too. Um, >> this whole situation with this car, we're trying to figure something out. >> Uh-huh. >> Do I think that Skyler bought the car? Sure. I don't think that Skyler your sister. Who's Maya? >> Maya. >> Maya. There is no Maya. My mom's last name. >> Chancellor. Do you know Maya? >> Maya. >> Maya? >> No. Not my mama last name, but her name is Sheree. >> So, do you have a cousin name? Do you have a cousin named Maya? >> Cardier in the car. >> What do you need out of the car, man? >> Oh, he was showing me. You showing you what? He was trying to show me that this >> I'll be honest with you. >> Who does that look like? You're probably going to say your sister. >> That's her >> to like and I'm not sisters. >> When I'm looking at this, I see you. >> I don't know why you see me. We sisters, but [ __ ] I'm I'm chunkier than her. That's skinny girl. >> Skyler is this big. >> Listen, Jazz work. Something's going. >> She's that big. Why is she Why is she weigh more than you on her driver's license? >> I don't know. This the thing. I like I told him, she done did something and she not telling me. >> I can't help it over here. The other thing that adds into this is that none of the birth dates that you or Skyler gave to me come back to anybody. >> I never gave you. >> What do you mean I gave you my birthday? >> Oh, when she was No, Skyler. Skyler's birthday. >> Listen, I just like I told >> you told Skyler to give me the real birthday on the phone. You said it out loud what it was. It's the one that's on her driver's license. It was used when we bought the car. >> No, I don't know. I her birthday a couple days after mine. Sir, I'm not trying to give y'all no problem. What she done did with her car before it was mine. I don't know what she done did. That has nothing to do with me. I just know I paid her. I came to drop it off because I done messed up the tire or she messed it up. >> I got I just tell you like they are pulling every bit of financial out of here. They're pulling everything from where the car was >> 1500. I'm not paying for nothing else. >> We're past that. We're past that. >> So then what is it? I didn't do anything as far as what she got going on with this car. This is not my >> I'm telling you right now. I'm telling you right now, >> if there's if there is stuff about this that is fabricated or false or whatever it is, the it's going to collapse. It's going to collapse when they get this off. >> Listen, and that's on her. You hear me? That is on completely on her. I don't have nothing to do with that. I'm mad. I'm mad about me paying her 750. >> Skyler should be worried cuz she's driving without a valid driver's license right now because I can't find one anymore. >> I don't know what she doing. Can I finish talking? >> Oh, but Skyler's really driving. >> What? No chance. everything that's going on with your phone, your whole car situation. I think we've all had enough of it. With you getting the text link for the payment, >> the foreign car, >> whether you forwarded it or not, that's why you whether you forwarded it or not, there's enough information on there to show that you got the payment that even even if you for my fault. I never paid or used nobody's stuff. >> Can you face that way for me, please, Jazz? Yes, but can you tell me why I wore jail? >> We'll we'll talk more in the jail. I told you right now. >> But what am I going to jail for? >> For at this point, well, the key, credit card fraud, possibly identity theft. We don't know what's going on with that car at this. >> So, why am I going to jail? That's not my car. >> Okay. Well, then we're going to figure that out. >> We are going to jail. Can you take me to the bathroom first? That's fine. I'll be >> We'll be in our jail pretty quick. >> No, I got to pee now. I'm pregnant. I got to pee now. I can't wait till we get to jail. >> It's going to be like 2 minutes down the road. >> Just take me there, please. Please. Cuz I'm not lying. I don't know why you taking me to jail. >> We're not We're not doing that to her. That's not even made sense. Y'all talking to me. I didn't even make a payment. >> You said you made a payment though. >> I to her. I never paid nothing to them. >> You said you payment to uh Toyota financial my car. Yeah. Not car to go grab all that paperwork. Oh, you good. >> Yeah. Okay. All right. You're going to be audio and video recorded while you're in my car. Okay. >> All right. >> She was charged with driving on a suspended license, retail theft, and theft with intent to control property. Thanks for watching. Be sure to subscribe for more videos like this.