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What's going on? >> Not sure yet. >> Oh, okay. Oh, that's why she looked at me. >> Hello. >> Hi. >> How's it going? >> Good. >> You mind having a seat for me? >> So, what's going on today? >> Nothing. You brought in a check. >> Yes. >> And the check's not good. >> It's not. >> That's what I'm That's what I'm hearing. >> Well, the check was written to me >> by who? >> By the person who who wrote the check. >> And who is that? >> That's the people that I'm working did some work for. >> And what what work did you do? >> I I just do any kind of work that they asked me to do. Roofing, any kind. >> Okay. What work did you do for the money? >> I did some roofing work. I did some subcontracting work that involves some roofing repair. >> Okay. And they paid you by writing a check. >> That's correct. >> Okay. And so why wouldn't the check be good? >> I don't have any idea. Okay. >> All right. Do you have any weapons or anything on you? >> Of course not. >> Do you mind standing up for me just patch down? Make sure you got nothing. >> Cigarettes. >> Yeah. >> All right. Can I have a seat for me? >> So what's what's wrong with the check? >> It's counterfeit. It's kind of >> I went into my bank's office, called another branch officer who called the officer and it is >> okay. What do you mean by that? >> H like how is it counterfeit? >> Thank you. >> The person who is the signer has no clue who this gentler is. >> Gotcha. Okay. >> Don't get back to Carol's desk. Okay. >> Okay. And that's not his normal job. Gotcha. >> Anything to say about that? >> No, I I didn't really hear everything, but >> Yeah. So, the this check, the person that they contacted that has the check has never heard of you. >> Okay. I mean, I look, the first people wrote me the check. I came to check it. >> Gotcha. Okay. So, who who is it that you work for? >> I I've accept contract. I know, but who who was it that you did the work for? >> For these for these people right here. >> Other people's name. >> I I they're on the check. I mean, >> how long have you been working for? >> No, I say it's just off and on. >> Just off and on. For how long? >> I I sub contract for anybody. >> Okay. But you do you know the names of the people? >> I I know the names of some of the people. I mean, I look I they wrote me the check. I just brought it in. I'm just >> Mhm. >> I'm just cashing a check. >> Yeah. I mean, they didn't write it cuz they've never heard of you. Well, that's what that's what I'm hearing now, but I mean, that's not what why would I think that when somebody writes me a check. >> Okay. Um, so here's what we're going to do. Um, I'm going to have another officer. They're on their way right now and we're going to make some phone calls and figure out what's going on, but you're going to hang out here until we get all that >> figured out. >> All right. Okay. >> I mean, I apparently I don't have any choice with that. So, >> no. No, you don't have any choice. 10874 >> 104. >> So I I I just don't understand what the what the deal is. >> I mean, it's not a real check. >> That's I hear you what you're saying that, but I have no way of knowing that. >> You You understand what I'm saying? I have no way of knowing that the check's been written to me is not a real check. >> But you don't know who the people were that wrote you the check. >> Listen. >> No, it's not. Listen, man. You don't know who the person who even wrote you the check. So, how is that me sitting here thinking circle? >> Here's here's the situation. There are some people outside. I don't know how much this is safe. Can if there's a Is this the other officer? >> 301 circle 301 bearded oak 360. >> What's What's going on today? >> Listen, I was given the check. I came in to cash it. They went to the back. They waited for a long time. I'm sitting here waiting patiently and then he comes in. >> Okay. >> And he's talking to them. They're saying the check's not real. >> I have no way of knowing that the check. >> Do you have an ID? >> She's got it back there. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, um, >> what is the check from? From from work business. >> It's from It's from services rendered to this these people for subcontracting work. So, just to go over the process of how you guys check. Um, so he brings it in, said it was a check that he received for working on something. >> He gives you the check. What do you guys do from there? >> I pull it up on the system and the check number. So, there's another check that someone cashed today >> for like the same dollar amount, but different check number. >> Got Then I went down a little bit and pulled up a check that already cleared. >> The type is completely different than what he's showing. And usually when it's baked like that, it's gone. I'm in my team here >> and it's always Tampa. >> My red flag has a Tampa ID. >> But I went through and none of those checks are the same. >> So holding a signal in the parking lot, no injury. >> I'll be right back. So I told him I was going to make a photo copy of normal procedure but whatever he does. So I have an office back there. I called another branch officer told her to call the officer on the or the account holder >> and say hey I have a Tampa address this person check number how much? And then she called me back and says >> no1. So the actual writer of the check said that it was not confirmed that it wasn't okay. >> Yeah. And that's when I called And >> so in the I know it was a check from somebody else, but is it technically the bank here has to get the money if it is a legit check? So the bank itself would be the victim. Correct. >> Or would it be this the the people that actually wrote the checks? >> Fraudulent stuff like this is so like detail oriented. >> If I cashed it, >> it would be the bank. >> The bank would be at >> correct. So since you didn't cash it, it's still the >> no one's at fault. >> Okay. because nobody actually lost the money because he's the one that just created the check. Gotcha. Okay. >> It's a counterfeit check right now with no potential loss. But like I said, there is a check that cleared or got cash today and I haven't had a chance to look at it. >> Okay. But it's the the check number itself doesn't actually correspond with the check. So like >> I don't know if it was like a project like a >> Okay. >> altered check or not. that I don't get. >> But you guys are 100% certainty this is a fake check. >> Perfect. >> 5125. >> She said that she was like the big she's like, "Well, we took it back and we're able to find the check." There was a check that was cash with the exact same number of money, >> but a different check number. So, it looks like this guy got altered some of the numbers and made the new check. 104 >> and they still have his ID. >> All right. >> Do you have a notepad? Cuz mine's full. >> Do you Do you work for a business or are you self contract self-employed? >> How do you have a car? Did you come here? >> I I I had I was dropped off. The car's probably waiting probably waiting for me. >> Who Who dropped you off? Like a friend? >> A friend of mine. >> They're not part of the >> No, they're nothing to do with anything except transportation. I mean my mind is I'm found by why the check is not cashing as you are. >> Yeah. I understand you have to pay people and everything like that. >> So because of the whole major I've got two police officers and the lady goes out the back and she >> What's your first name, sir? >> Rodney. >> Robbie. >> Rodney. She's got my ID. >> I know. I'm asking you. >> R O D N E Y. >> Did you get You got driven here all the way from Tampa. >> I'm sorry. >> You said you got dropped off, right? You live in Tampa. This my right should still be here. >> No, but you got somebody brought you here all the way from Tampa to cast the check. >> Just to pick up my check. Yeah. >> Oh, to pick up your check. >> To pick up this check right here that I just tried to cash. >> Where'd you pick it up at? >> I picked it up from the person who just handed it to me. >> I know. Do you remember the address? >> It was just down the road. on the same account made up to the same person. >> What I don't know what the location is >> um by the estate by Paramount. >> So he's gotten money off from another on the same account >> today. >> Okay. So, I'm gonna go >> Paramount, you know, we're um McDonald's, Applebee's, the Bank of America or American questions being asked. I'm saying I don't want to ask you >> TNC bank. >> Okay. >> I answered everything the best I could and it's it's just going in circle now. >> Maria is the complainant. She's not 1012. She's requesting a 21 of the results. >> Um, did they contact the sheriff's office? >> No. >> Okay. >> I when he came up the account regular procedure and I didn't check for the same amount. >> Okay. >> I didn't look at it, >> but I looked at another check and I knew it wasn't it was counterfeit. It wasn't the same. >> I just called from bring me that copy. Look at the check. See if it's counterfeit. Yeah. So, I called the person who cashed the check and he said it was Ronnie, same last name. >> Um, did you contact the company? >> They already know that it's coming. They don't know about the one. He's already counted. Yeah. >> Okay. Can you just let them know? >> Yeah. Yeah. 6106. I see. >> 6106. reference to this case uh the fraudulent documents. Um I guess the branch has another location at 5540 Fruitville Road um near the McDonald's and earlier today he cashed a check there from the same business and the same 1017 um and they're just being made aware of it. So there might be a separate crime out there in the county. >> Good afternoon, Cloud Detect. This is Juliet. How can I help you? >> Hi, this is Officer Home of Sarasota Police Department. I'm trying to make contact with somebody from >> Okay, just a moment. >> 2005 Hyundai voicemail. Hello, this is >> Hi, this is Officer Home of the Sarasota Police Department. >> How's it going? >> I'm well. And yourself? >> Good. What can I do for you? >> So, do do you work for >> I own Yeah. >> Okay. On >> Yep. >> Okay. So, I'm assuming you've been in contact with the bank already or they've been in contact. >> I just got off the phone with him like a minute ago. >> Okay. So, I'm just trying to figure out uh how this gentleman has uh any association with you and and if uh you've approved any work from this gentleman or >> No, I just looked at I just got on my expense sheet. I don't have a single check ever in my entire company's history made out for the amount of money that he has cashing. >> Okay. And you don't know >> a Rodney, correct? >> No. >> Have you had any roofing work done for one of your businesses recently >> roofing work. No. >> Okay. Cuz he's he's he's saying that he did subcontracted roofing work for a shingle roof and some sit and fascia. >> No, my my roof on my factory is steel and I that's the only building I own. >> Okay. And then what does your business do? >> We are cabinetry. >> Okay. Okay. Um, my second question is, uh, it looks like he's already cashed a check out of another bank in the county. >> Okay. >> And we just want to verify whether you're looking to pursue charges for the the theft of that and the uh, fraudulent document. >> Yeah, we will. I mean, obviously, I want my money back. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. Uh, can I get some information from you real quick, sir? Yes. And are you at the bank right now over on Bidge? >> Uh, no. We are on >> Okay. I was say I was about to drive there to drop off some checks, but um >> No, we're at Oak Street. Oak Street and 301. >> And then the bank that had the fraud was at Fruitville. >> Yeah. Fruitville and Paramount was the bank >> near the McDonald's and Applebee's near the interstate. >> Gotcha. Yeah. Normally the one I I actually go to is the one on Be Rich if that makes sense. >> Okay. Rodney, right? >> Yes. >> Come out here. >> So, I can talk to you. >> It's the one complaining. She doesn't want to. >> I know you said whatever you said to this officer, but I just I have to read you your rights first. Okay. >> So, you have the right to remain silent. have requested you before entering a high point to you before entering if you wish. You decide any time to exercise these rights and not ask any questions or make any. >> Do you understand each of these rights as I have explained them to you? >> I do. >> And having these rights in mind, do you wish to talk to us now? >> Uh possibly. >> Okay. It's up to you, >> right? Cuz I know in there >> I mean I can stop at any time. I know. >> Right. So what's really happening today? So, so as I was explaining to him, well, first of all, before I said too much, I want to know what's how this helps me >> by saying, >> well, at the end of the day, if this is a big operation, >> well, if it's bigger than you, >> is what you're saying. So, >> the lowest I guess I'll reach out and speak to one of our detectives, see if this is something that they want to come speak with you about. Uh, how I don't know how far this has gone. This is the first time you've ever done this with this guy. If you know anybody else that's working with him, >> if you know any of his information, cuz >> he's not out there now, obviously. >> Yeah. Oh, that's what I'm thinking because they would have seen I'm sure the police, >> right, >> parking cuz they were parking over there. >> Yeah. >> I'm sure they would have left also. It's been so long, right, between the temple >> seeing the police and >> and I and that's the other part is I don't even know how to reach them >> as far as like calling them or anything like that. They they they they >> in person. >> Yeah. Well, >> they haven't like texted your phone, called you? >> I don't have one. Um my phone is is is actually they may have my phone is like lost or stolen. I'm not sure. They did call it several times they said, but I don't have it, so I can't. >> So, how do they normally locate you? >> This look, I'm a home. I'm homeless. I live in Tampa, but I kind of like stay at places, hotels or at people's houses, but I guess you consider I'm homeless. Uh, I live in Tampa. They pulled up to me at a bus stop literally, and asked me if I if I had an idea, and I said, "Yes, I wanted to make some money." All right, that's how that that's how it happened. Okay. So, they drove down here to to gave me this check to cash and and they did the one and then this was the second one. They they wanted me to I said there was a third place that that I went in to do it and I felt very nervous the way they were acting and everything. I told him I said I'm done with it. I'm not doing anymore. Uh I haven't been paid yet and I don't know what you know and blah blah blah. And and it's like well if you want to get back to champion you're going to do this one. And that's how we just want to feel like I'm not only being that I'm being stupid as hell, but I'm also being kind of bullied and and uh I mean, you know, these people I'm an old man. These people are younger and much bigger and uh and also I'm stuck in in in uh SO. >> What was the other location? What was the You said >> it it was it was a another one of these banks. >> Do you know what Roto was? I know you >> I I I don't I don't know the road. I mean coming off the second this was the third bank today then that you >> this would have been the third plate. Yeah. But only one but there was the first one >> that that she gave you the paper for the second one that just >> So that was the first one was on the one off 75. >> Yeah. >> The second one too. >> I I don't know. >> Was it the same different? It was a different bank. >> It was a different bank. a different bank and I couldn't um I've never heard of them before either, >> but it was uh it was a larger check too, but it did it did they they they didn't do it. >> Mhm. >> But I felt really nervous about it too and I told her something >> and then they thought you had this one >> and then this one. >> So, how many people were two? There's one guy driving and the other guy setting shotgun who who has the he's like the boss. Then I was in the back seat with both my backpacks. >> All right. And can you describe these? >> They're black guys and the one guy's really big. The one in the >> passenger seat and the other one is I don't know average of the vehicle. >> It is a gray Nissan Centra. I think it's not an Ultima. Seth stepped down >> smaller one. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And setting they left me setting they were parked like the end and over there in that parking lot over there. >> You didn't happen to see the license plate at all? >> No. And you know I kept saying to myself I need to get license plates for this car just in case. And and I never I never did. >> How do they make the checks? >> That that I don't know because they've got my name printed on them. >> That's what I'm saying. Like I just met them today. >> No, no, no, no. I met them yesterday. >> Yesterday? I met them yesterday and they said they were pick me up this morning. >> Okay. So, they didn't print it off, right? Right. They must have done it. >> No, but they got my information. >> Gotcha. And then they because these they're printed. You can see it. Check. It's it's printed on there. So So they printed them and had I guess they had had them mapped out and and uh I mean >> Well, let me ask you. I mean, that's the only thing I can tell you is that they they they had to have had somebody print them, but he had a he had a game plan. He had a >> If you were to see these folks in like a lineup or something, would you be able to identify them? >> Absolutely. >> Okay. And you don't know any you don't know like nickname? >> I don't listen, I don't know them at all. >> I know, but they were talking to each other with nicknames. >> They they were kind of quiet and and let me see. And it seemed like like when when they they dropped me at the one place and then I would walk into the bank. When I came back, they weren't there. So I kind of like just aimlessly walk around for a few minutes and then they'd show back up and I'd get in the car. So they were moving while I was in there. >> Do you remember how you got here from the other bank? Anything about the roads? >> You know, I'm in the back seat and this is your pay very >> um >> was it all major roads? Did you go on any site? No, it was they they they stayed on, you know, seems like >> Did when you got here, did you come from the south or did you come >> in 75 and then we came up going towards Braden? So, we came in that that way is back towards Bradon, right? >> Right. >> Yeah. We came in down there somewhere and we came up this way to this bank. >> Are you good with him? I'm going to call Sergeant Se. So we we basically uh came came in from >> right >> that way and then was going heading this way when we stopped at this at this bank. I thought maybe we were going back to Tampa. I was like glad to get back to Tampa. So because at this point I'm like I got to get away from these guys. This is not I mean just the way the guy talked to me like like >> all set. I don't know who he thinks he is. They don't run nothing with me. I got, you know, I got to get away. >> So, >> not that much damage has been done. >> We We did a check. >> You're right. And I think, >> you know, I may or may not ever hear about that again. >> What they say your cut was going to be? Did they tell you? >> They told me that that my cut was going to be 10%. But I never got paid on it. I mean, I have I have money, some money anyways. I get a pension and I get a social security. I'm 64 years old. >> Oh, okay. >> So, um I know people don't believe me when I say I'm 64 years old. It's all my driver's license. So, uh but you know, it just seemed like that just seemed like easy money. It's stupid. >> Yeah. >> A stupid stupid thing that you know, a desperate homeless man did. But they they >> you know he said 10% and at the end of the day he calculates it. So, I've got money on me. I didn't need I didn't really need to do it right away. >> Where' they pick you up at in Tampa? >> At uh like ins Wendy's there and there's a bus stop there. >> Sit there a lot. >> Was it near the Wendy's or was it >> right in front of the Wendy's? >> Right in front of the Wendy's. >> Well, I mean there's there's a Wendy's on him and there's a Wendy's on. I was the one on that's right. I sat there a lot. >> Okay. you know, if there's scammers there that we can help like identify these guys if they make you up there. >> I was thinking the best way of identifying them is for me to for me to have went back out there, but it's too I know it's too much time past now that they're not going and if they if they see seen you guys >> coming into the same place. I don't think >> Yeah, they're not going to anywhere near the only way would be for me to be probably be back in Tampa. You said >> is there anything else about the car like any bumper stickers damage? >> I I can't >> heavy tint. >> No, it's just a gray uh >> normal rims. Nothing. >> Nothing fancy at all. >> Okay. So, I spoke to my supervisor, explained to him what's going on. Yeah, >> he's going to call our criminal investigation department or our detectives and uh see if they want to either come down here and speak to you or if we take you to the station and they can speak to you there and then they they have the power to do more than I can. Right. >> I appreciate you being honest with us. >> Just a stupid stupid move. I mean, I'm not that desperate. Okay. So, I know you're not from walk through because there's things that we can do to try to find this vehicle, right? You left you left the bank. You left the bank on right off the I75. >> My tablet is in the back seat. If I log into my Google, >> that's something for that's going to be something. >> It will find it, >> right? >> And and if it finds the device, >> it will literally tell you right exactly where the device is. It's in the back seat back. >> I know. I want to ask you a question. >> Okay. >> So, you left the bank on free bill. >> 614. Uh, did you go back towards 75? >> I don't think I don't think so. Maybe. I don't think so. >> You didn't go back on 75? >> I don't think so. >> Okay. >> But that's the road. >> And when you got to this bank, you were on that road going north. >> We were going south. Oh, no. We were going north. Yeah, that way. >> Okay. >> Yeah, that way. >> All right, Rodney. >> And then we >> So, our detectives are going to speak to you. Okay. So, I'm going to take you to our police department >> where they can interview you and speak to you there. >> All right. >> I'm going to put you in handcuffs because I'm going to transport you in my vehicle. Okay. >> Yep. I understand. Go ahead and turn around. >> Oh, sorry. >> Okay. Do you have anything on you I need to be aware of? >> No. >> Okay. I'm going to take off your hand glasses. >> Yep. >> Would you mind just putting all that in a box? Hop on in. I'll get the seat belt on you. >> There you go. Yeah, just sit there. >> I see. >> They they set this up so that >> I got you. >> No, it's super easy. Bam. Buckle it in. Let me get the air on back here for you and then we'll take a drive over the station. All right. Yes, sir. >> He was charged with uttering a forged check and fraudulent use of personal identification. He was sentenced to 2 years of probation. A warrant has since been issued for violating the terms of that probation. Thanks for watching. Be sure to subscribe for more videos like this.
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