I'll try to get through this it's a very
difficult time for Chicago Police
Department
uh we're heartbroken
unfortunately we're delivering the very
tragic news that one of our own Duty
Chicago police officer has
been fairly shot this evening our
officer who is deceased
uh was shot multiple times
and as you know here at Sinai Hospital
where he succumbed to his injuries
uh
I asked that this city
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covered this off his family
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it's a family
of
public servants
and as you can imagine
they are taking this tragedy very very
hard
this young officer who had
right at five years on this department
had a bright future ahead of me
and this is something that no family
should have to face this evening
the officer the officer's partner all
the responding officers officers in the
a district every officer on this police
department and for that matter every
officer in this country
raving today
leasing is a big family
of people who know at some point they
may be asked to make the ultimate
sacrifice
but you never wish or hope that it
actually happened
tonight this tragedy
there's some broken hearts
will take a long time
to grieve
to accept this
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good afternoon this is good afternoon
this is Daniel here with cops and cons
TV wanna say thank you for joining us
and that was a video that was produced
by the Chicago Police Department that we
wanted to start with today and actually
that's what we're going to get into
first so there was a police officer in
Chicago who just died as you just saw in
the video he was 32 years old he had
five years on the department his name is
Andres Vasquez lasso a little bit about
what happened so here's the information
that we know is that police officers in
Chicago Southwest side near Gage Park
were dispatched to a call for service it
was a domestic violence type disturbance
call once officers got there there was a
male offender a subject who was chasing
a female with a gun a police officer
lasso was dispatched to the call he
arrived on scene he saw this and what he
did is he did engage in the foot chase
after the suspect as he was chasing
after the 18 year old suspect the 18
year old suspect turned around pretty
quickly and just about at very close
range did fire shots at the police
officer and he tragically died however
before he died he was able to get off a
couple rounds of his own and he did
shoot and wound the offender one time he
shot him in the head however the
individual did not die he uh he was did
suffer some injuries obviously and he's
in the hospital right now
um
the individual is being charged with
first degree murder it shouldn't be
surprising to anyone that this 18 year
old who's going to not only get into a
domestic violence incident cause a
disturbance you know be armed with a
firearm that he also has a long criminal
history so some of the things in his
criminal history were auto theft running
from police and resisting arrest he's
able to accomplish all of these Crimes
by the age of 18. so he's currently
being charged with first degree murder
um it's an absolute tragic thing anytime
we lose a police officer in the line of
duty but that is what happened in
Chicago and we are currently working on
video we're going to have the video up
for everybody here in a second
um so
um you know I want to thank everyone for
being a part of our be uh par being a
part of our show today thank you officer
blue gun appreciate that thank you all
for being a part of our show today if
you have any questions about any of the
cases that I'm going through or if you
have a different opinion about
some of these cases that I'm going to be
talking about and we do have some
controversial cases to go over this week
there were there's at least three other
cases that we're going to talk about and
they were each one is controversial on
its own and there's a lot to some of
these cases so um we're going to get
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a second for everyone so just hang on a
second and like I said we're going to
get into some of these other stories but
um I know I've mentioned it before that
you know I'm from the south side of
Chicago I'm from only a couple miles
west of where this officer involved
shooting in Chicago occurred a lot of my
friends back home in Chicago are Chicago
Chicago police officers and it's a it's
a real hard time for them right now when
something like this happens
um so I'm just curious everyone has any
other comments or anything on that case
and um yeah kind of while we're waiting
for the for the for the video to go up
or let's see where everybody's from
looks like uh Steve Ladner can we ask
real questions Steve good afternoon you
can ask whatever you want um me and
Steve go back and forth uh on comments
throughout the week so it's good to see
Steve we don't always agree but that is
okay as long as we have the discussion
that's really what's important but um
yeah go ahead Steve ask anything you
want and we'll go ahead and discuss some
of these um really important issues um
when it comes to policing and crime and
law enforcement
um I I mean it's okay to have different
opinions like that isn't that isn't the
problem it's good to have different
opinions and to debate those opinions my
my heartache is when people have
opinions that aren't based in fact and I
guess my thing is is like I like the
debate and the discussion so if we can't
agree on what the underlying facts are
then how can we ever have a discussion
about it um so yeah Steve definitely put
in there whatever you want looks like we
have a couple people oh let's see we got
Kyle from El Paso Texas welcome
and uh let's see we've got
yeah Shaq Hill oatmeal it's probably the
best name in here absolutely I know we
have someone from Florida someone from
Tennessee and uh yeah welcome everyone
and we have someone from Oklahoma as
well hello Maria
all right so the the first case that
we're gonna we're gonna talk about and
definitely put any questions in there as
we're getting this video up first case
that I want to talk about is uh the
Linda Edwards case in Knoxville
Tennessee I do believe I think that
someone said that they were from
Knoxville they're not from Knoxville but
from Tennessee so so we are going to
talk about uh this case so this Linda
Edwards case I mean this is an absolute
tragic case it's just an absolute
terrible thing it's kind of been in the
newspapers everywhere um all the
different channels have covered it but
you know here's what this case was so
this happened on February 4th and it's a
woman she's wheelchair bound because she
did suffer a prior stroke oh hang on
let's see let's before we get that case
let's see what Steve has to say uh let's
see um oh goodness uh Steve Ladner what
do you think about police literally
robbing citizens and armored cars okay
so all right Steve uh I'm not sure what
you mean about robbing citizens um and
Armored Cars I'm not sure what what that
means either I mean armor cars for
police officers for
um like bring security
when we talk about people robbing
citizens you might be talking about
civil asset forfeiture so let's talk
about that let's see let's pretend
that's what Steve is asking about so
civil asset forfeiture is essentially
when during a criminal investigation not
only do police officers charge people
with crimes but they also physically
take people's property so this is done a
lot of times if someone is involved in
if someone is arrested for drugs then a
lot of times they uh police officers are
able to see some of the assets that are
related or connected to that criminal
activity so in general I'm not crazy
about civil asset forfeiture I don't
always think it is a good idea but the
problem is and here's where here's what
I think the problem is and here's where
I like to that's what Steve's talking
about good I'm glad I was on the right
track there Steve so well here's what I
think about when it comes to civil asset
forfeiture and just to be as transparent
as I can be I'm not a fan either I would
prefer that police departments not do it
but here's where my heartache is blaming
blaming police officers for civil asset
forfeiture I'm going to be honest I
think it's wrong track and here's why
the reason is because civil asset
forfeiture is a lot of times when it
comes to federal agencies it's federal
law and when it comes to cities and
State Police and counties it's state law
or city ordinance that's followed so so
essentially police officers not only do
they have to follow those laws but
there's also department policies most
departments have policies that say you
will follow this civil asset forfeiture
law and police officers so individual
police officers on the street they
literally don't have a choice so I'm not
saying that it's so if police officers
don't follow these laws a lot of times
they can be disciplined or fired now you
can make the argument well if it's
immoral police officer shouldn't do it
but again if it's the law and police
officers have to follow the law I don't
know what you expect individual police
officers to do so I think when it comes
to civil asset forfeiture if you're
criticizing individual police officers
on the streets but you're not
criticizing people who manage police
departments and who literally write the
policy or lawmakers who literally write
these laws for police officers to follow
I I think that that isn't really honest
uh officer blue gun says don't hate the
player hate the game that is absolutely
100 officer blue gun so blaming
individual police officers on the street
who literally not only do they have to
follow Department policy but they also
have to follow what the law is so if you
really want this to change when it comes
to civil asset forfeiture you have to
change the laws um and and again I'm not
crazy about civil asset forfeiture I'm
it's not something that I'm a fan of
um I wish that it would go away
um pretty much in every single case but
again blaming police officers on the
street who have to follow these laws it
seems like a strange place to put blame
now I always talk about dishonest
criticism so a lot of people come into
these different scenarios and incidents
instead situations with with they have
in their mind I'm gonna be irritated and
criticize police officers no matter what
the police officers do well if that's
your goal then fine then blame the
police officers for civil asset
forfeiture but if your goal is hey this
is a bad policy this is a bad law how do
we fix this and make it better for the
future well then you don't start at the
bottom with the police officers who
again literally don't have a choice when
it comes to following the law but it's
the um it's the people who it's the hey
JF well yeah we're getting the video up
now we're getting it fixed so hang on we
will be there in a second
um but it's literally the it's literally
the I believe we're coming up here in a
second it's it's literally the people
who write the law
um and the people who run police
departments with their policy that's who
should be blamed that's where the
long-term fix of this is so Steve I
don't know if I answered your question
but um that's how I feel about civil
asset forfeiture I don't like it either
either but blaming individual police
officers is a really strange place to
put blame this is completely on policy
makers and lawmakers so back to the
Linda Edwards case so this was in
Knoxville Texas on 2-4 of this year she
flew from her Nursing Home in Rhode
Island and while she was on the flight
she had some abdominal pain complaints
of pain so once it landed in Knoxville
Tennessee she went to Blunt Memorial
Hospital she was there they diagnosed
her with nothing serious and she was
discharged after that after that she
went to Fort Sanders hospital and this
is where the incident occurred so when
she was at Fort Sanders hospital she
basically complained of this abdominal
pain and they basically the hospital
staff told her that she was fine that
she didn't have any problems that there
wasn't anything they needed to admit her
for and they discharged her well Miss
Edwards Linda Edwards didn't agree she
honestly thought that there was
something wrong so she did what you know
you would think a lot of people would do
when they honestly believe they have a
medical problem they're at an emergency
department and they're not getting the
help or treatment she refused to leave
she basically said I'm not leaving I'm
I'm sick I have I have these issues I am
100 leaving
um
yes uh so no we are getting the we are
getting the uh hey Martin driver yeah we
usually have video we're getting the
video up it's uh technical issues but
the video is being fixed it'll be up
here in a few so stick with us
um so she essentially refused to to
leave um so security uh the hospital
staff had Security deal with her and um
uh she's wouldn't leave with security
she then
um they called police officers and so
police officers get there and basically
here's what police officers are being
told police officers are being told hey
this woman was discharged so she has no
medical issues and she's refusing to
leave she's criminal trespassing we want
her out of here so what the police
officers do is I have a lot of issues
with what the police officers do but
essentially they try to convince her to
leave and she refuses
um after so long of a time um she
um the police officers decide to place
her under arrest for Criminal Trespass
now during all of this and it goes on
for like an hour she's telling them that
she feels like she can't breathe she
feels like she's going gonna die she
says she thinks she's having a stroke
and you know the police officers are
basically reiterating what the medical
staff just told them I mean it's not
like they're out in the middle of a park
or anywhere anywhere strange they're
literally in the parking lot of the
hospital right so you know the then the
medical staff at some point does come
out unseen and the medical staff is
telling them hey there's nothing wrong
with her she's been discharged and she's
refusing to leave So eventually the
police officers decide to place her
under arrest well they arrest her while
she's in custody she dies of a stroke
and um so it turns out she did have some
medical issues going on that weren't
diagnosed now it's impossible to know
whether or not you know she did she had
that while she was at the hospital or if
it developed later but either way
either way she did die in police custody
and there is just a lot of criticism not
only on the hospital but there's a lot
of criticism on police and you know what
some of that criticism I'll say a lot of
that criticism is warranted let me get
into the specifics here a little bit so
um you know when police first arrived on
scene almost immediately what they
um you know what Hey so uh we're gonna
come back on uh here in a few and we'll
have uh the video feed up so why don't
you give us a few minutes and we'll be
right back on
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