Hello. How are you? >> Thank you. Hey, I'm Detective White. >> Thanks for coming in. You're Manuela? >> Yes. >> Do you have ID on you by any chance? >> Do you have any patients today that you have to take care of? >> I'm just going to do this. >> Okay. [clears throat] Can I show you my green? >> Yeah, of course. Yep. Yep. If you have a passport or anything, my eyes are bad. >> Does like take a picture of it or >> Yeah. >> I don't know what that thing does. So, >> no, it's okay. >> So, do you remember this guy? >> Yeah. >> Was he like one of your patients? Was he how how was he to take care of? Like was he a nice person to take care of or was he difficult with you? >> How many I take care of him? >> Yeah. Like how long did you take care of him for? >> Not not long. It's not long. >> Not long. >> No, maybe one or two months. >> Not long. >> Okay. Did he have like a lot of people visiting him or did he have um like a lot of visitors? Like when you would care for him, were people coming and going? [music] >> He just [snorts] >> Or was he pretty much by himself? ladies when when I go work it was 7 a.m. >> okay >> to 8:00 a.m. But sometime I take only 20 minutes or 30 minutes. >> Okay. >> But he always tell sorry my English is >> it's okay. You're fine. Don't worry. >> He's always in the morning when I give him some breakfast everything. So when I ask him can I make um lunch for you? >> He said no I have come friend. So I never see the friend. >> Mhm. But um him is he always told me friend coming but I don't know because sometime I'm coming 7 7:30. >> Mhm. >> 7:30 to 8. >> Okay. >> But never at night. >> But the work is 7 to 9 but I never stay for for 9. >> Okay. Okay. >> It's 2 hour in the morning, 2 hour in the afternoon. >> Okay. I'm going to have to ask you some questions. Like don't don't feel like irritated that I have to ask you them. I just have to ask you these questions. But before I ask you anything, I have to read you cuz it's the law that I have to read you what your rights are. Okay? >> So before I show you any pictures that I have to show you, I have to read this to you. Okay? Um I'm required to warn you before you make any statement that you have the following constitutional rights. You have the right to remain silent and not answer any questions. Do you understand? Yeah, that's right. >> Right. So, so you have the right to remain silent and you have the right to not answer any questions if that's what you want to do. >> You understand? >> Okay. Any statement you make must be freely and voluntarily given. Do you understand that? So, anything you say to me in conversation, I can't force you to say anything. It has to be you want to cooperate. You want to talk to me. Do you understand? >> Okay. You have the right to the presence and representation of a lawyer of your choice before you make any statement and during any questioning. Do you understand? >> Before we start, >> so you have a right to an to a lawyer if you want a lawyer while I'm asking you questions. >> A lawyer? >> No, I'm not a lawyer either. But but this is what this says. You have a right to to one. If you want one. >> Okay. >> Do you understand? >> Yes. >> Okay. If you cannot afford a lawyer, you are entitled to the presence and representation of a courtappointed lawyer before you make any statement and during any questioning. Do you understand that? >> So, so during questioning your if you can't afford an attorney, the state attorney's office will hire one for you. Okay? >> Does that make sense? >> Not that you're going to need one, but if you do need one, then that's the case. If at any time during the interview you do not wish to answer any questions, you are privileged to remain silent. Do you understand? >> Silent and then >> so like while I'm talk while we're talking if you like don't want to talk that's your right. >> Okay. >> You have a right to not talk. >> Okay. Um sorry my eyes are bad. >> Uh let's see. I can make no threats or promises to induce you to make a statement. This must be of your own free will. Do you understand? It's kind of like the other one where I can't like threaten you or anything. This has to be like you want to be here. You want to talk to me. >> Okay. >> Okay. Any statement can and will be used against you in a court of law. Do you understand? >> Like any statement you make can be used in the case. Like I could use whatever you say in in the case. >> Okay. Do you [music] understand these rights as I have read them to you? And do you wish to speak with me? Like do you wish to continue to talk to me? >> Sure. >> Okay. That was easy, right? >> Just sign right there. >> You got it. So, we just have to go over those. Um, I told you I wanted to show you a picture of a gentleman. So, some checks of Mr. Berries were cashed and they were cashed in the name of Jean. Do you recognize anybody with that name? >> No, my my agency asked me before. >> Okay. And that name like means nothing to you or not like an old friend or >> an ex or anything like that? No, nobody. Um, do you know if Mr. Barry had any friends named Jean? Did he have anyone visit him? >> No, I some just one lady. She just come to fix the medication for me. That's it. >> Okay. >> And the first time I see someone, it was Walker. >> Walker? >> Yes. >> Okay. Did Mr. Barry ever mention anyone named Jean? Did he ever say my friend Jean's coming over or nothing like that? >> I haven't. >> I'm going to show you. Are you familiar with like the issue with the checks that he had? Like Mr. Barry had some checks that were taken from him. >> No. >> And somebody cashed them >> cash for him. >> Yeah. Like he had his checks >> for his bank >> and somebody named Jean. Somebody wrote Jean on the checks and cash the checks. >> Are you familiar with that? >> No. Okay. You're not familiar with anything that happened or you heard about it or? >> No. No. >> No one asked you any questions? >> No. Just my my my agency. >> Okay. And what did they ask you? >> I I remember the day. >> She just called me. She say um Mr. asked me if you know anything without the check and and just to check and the name the Jean. >> Okay. >> And I said no, I don't know anything. >> Okay. Okay. I'm going to show you a picture of Jean. >> Okay. >> Okay. Do you recognize him? >> You never seen him before? in passing. Nothing like that. Okay. No memory at all. Okay. So, I'm I'm going to tell you this, okay? I don't I don't think everyone is a bad person. I think some people have circumstances in life that they deal with and sometimes desperate people do desperate things. Do you understand? I think sometimes um people have situations in their life >> like you're you're I don't think you're a bad person, right? Do you think you're a bad person? >> Bad person. >> No. >> No. You're a good person, right? >> Yes. But I think sometimes in life you can have situations, hard times that make you do things that are wrong, right? But doesn't make you a bad person. It [music] makes you somebody who made a very bad mistake. Okay. So, I'm going to show you. What kind of car do you drive? >> Um, Toyota. >> A Toyota. What color is it? White and blue. >> White and blue. Okay. Can you tell me who this is? Now's not the time to lie. >> That's you. It's already been identified as you. >> People that know you said this is you. >> What? When? >> Yeah. That's clearly you. So, like I said, I don't think you're a bad person. I think you made a very bad mistake. Um, for whatever reasons, you made the mistake. So, why why would you do this? Why would you cash Mr. Barry's checks? >> You say, "I made a mistake." >> Mhm. You cashed Mr. Barry's check. I cash Mr. Bry's shirt. >> This is you driving your car. Don't play games. Okay. >> Yes. This is my car. >> Yes. And that's you driving your car. >> Yes. This is Yes. >> That's you. >> Okay. And that's you in that picture, correct? >> Let me look. >> Maybe the sun is not hitting me the right way, but that's you. And what about what about this one? >> The car. It's the car like same my car. But >> it's your car, [music] right? And that's you driving it. >> Yes. >> Yes. Okay. I'm glad that we have honesty because honesty is very important. Okay? Cuz if you sit here and you continue to lie about it, it doesn't look good. Lying is not good. Okay? So, I'm going to ask you why. I'm going to give you an opportunity. Do you understand? An opportunity to explain to me why you needed to cash his checks. What was going on in your life that you needed to do this? doesn't make you a bad person. I don't think you're a bad person. I think you made a mistake, but I need to know why from you you did this. >> Did what? >> Cash his checks. >> But I never touched the the cash for for Mr. N. >> So why did you have his checks? >> I don't have the check the checks. >> These are you at the ATM, correct? That you just said. These are pictures of you. Correct. >> Yes. >> Okay. This is you at the ATM putting this check into the ATM that says Jean Max Mortimer. >> Can I have a pla? >> Can you have a who? >> Translator. >> Translator. >> What language do you speak? >> Creole. >> Creole. Can we see if anyone speaks Creole that could swing by here? Can you pull your shirt up? Your breast is popping out. Thank you. >> You're welcome. I got you. >> I'm going to see if someone could come by. >> Do you have children? >> First one. >> Oh, first one. How far along are you? >> Um, 18 week. >> 18 weeks. Okay. Do you live with a dad? >> No. >> No. Where's dad at? >> Where? >> Boon. >> Boon Beach. >> Yes. >> Okay. Is this the dad? >> No. >> No. But that you lived with this man? >> No, I lived by myself. >> You live by yourself? Did you ever live with this man? >> No. >> Cuz you both have a the same address in common. >> Address the same. The residential address is the same as that guy. >> I don't think so. >> No. >> Okay. >> Um >> people just watch and see if they can, >> you know, they can do the like >> Yeah. >> language or anything. >> No, not really. >> So, >> I know she understands me, >> right? >> Um, you know, this is her opportunity to speak, but If that's what we're going to do here, then you know. So, you don't know Mr. >> Mr. the picture, the man that I showed you? >> No. >> Is there any reason why the two of you would share a bank account? >> Why you and that guy in the picture have the same checking account? >> The same checking account? >> No, I have my my my account by myself. Okay. Because you're getting direct deposits. Who do you bank with? Who's your bank? >> Chase. >> What happened to Bank of America? >> I have only one bank. Chase. >> What's the bank that you used before? Chase. >> Chase. >> No. You had Bank of America before? >> No. No. I never had Bank of Bank of America. >> Okay. So, whose account were you putting the checks in? If you never had Bank of America, whose account was this that you put the checks in? >> I don't have any check. >> Okay, we're going in circles. Okay. All right. Um, your car is parked out there. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Can you stand up, please? >> Let me just hold these things. >> Okay. Yep. Turn around. You're under arrest. Put your hand behind your back. >> And can I have a leg? >> Yes, you could definitely have a lawyer. >> Uh, no. I'll do I'll do two cuz she's pregnant. I'm not going to make them too tight. Okay. >> We're going to walk you out here. Okay. Sit right here. Just sit on the step. Turn around and sit on the step. Yep. >> Good. Sit. >> Okay. >> Good. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Put yourself here. What I'll do is um I'll just follow >> okay >> whoever it is. So when they when we get >> okay you her in the car I'll go get my unit. >> Oh yes >> I'll follow them >> and then I'll meet you there. >> Go do whatever you have to do. >> Right. And then see if starge if we need to >> or if we can just go back there. Go from there too. Yes. >> See what I'm saying? Rough. Do the PC. >> Right. >> Right. >> Okay. What's your first what's your first name? >> Manuela. >> Manuela. Okay. I'm going to be when we leave here, there's an officer that's going to come right now. You're going to go into his car, his or her car, and we're going to go to the hospital first because >> you're pregnant. >> You're pregnant. Is that correct? >> I just come to the hospital. >> You Sorry. >> I'm just calm. >> We just have to clear you. They just have to say that you're okay >> and then we'll go from there. Okay. >> You understand you're under arrest, correct? >> I'm under arrest for what? >> For check fraud. and forgery cashing Mr. Barry's checks. That's why I was trying to find out from you why. I know you understand me. >> It's It's okay if you don't speak well, but you understand, you know. So, and you can't fight the fact that you're on video cashing Mr. Barry's checks. Do you understand that the the video? >> You got you get that that you were you're on video in your car where your car is, but you're in your own car and you have Mr. Bear's checks. Where's your car? Down there somewhere. >> No, after the >> Oh, right after the gray car. the weight. Okay. >> Oh, I see it. >> So, we got to Yeah, let's do that. I'll take I'll start taking that off. >> Okay. >> Take your chain off. Okay. >> We're going to take it and put it in a bag and we're going to document it. Okay. And everything's on video. So, this is recording. You know your paychecks from Alia Nursing were going to Bank of America. You said you never you never No. Bank of America. Your paychecks were going to Bank of America. Let me show you. Okay, Richard. >> This is your paycheck. Althia nursing direct deposit. >> Manuela Leonard. >> Oh, yeah. You have some space there. So, you have space. >> If you maybe if you sit sideways, why don't you try to sit sideways? That way you're not pressing on your arms, you know? And sit this way >> on the chair. That way, your arms are loose. There you go. That's probably better. >> Yeah. There you go. See right here? Althia nursing direct deposit. That's you. So your paycheck, that's Bank of America. So you can't tell me you never banked with Bank of America and you just bank with Chase. That's not true. Oh, I need her. I need you to cut her down. Okay. >> Sorry. >> I could do it if you have an extra set of bucks. Okay, we're going to walk that way. >> Be very careful down the steps. Okay. >> What's up? >> She's going I'm going to call the hospital down. >> Yep. Stand right here. >> Just stay right here for a second. I'm just going to pat you down and make sure you don't have anything. Do you have anything on you? Any extra thing? Your bra or nothing? Okay. It's like there we go. There we go. Can I have some sleep? All right. So, I'm going to meet you at the hospital. Okay. >> Huh? >> I guess I'll get you and then slide in. Where is this? But where is So, this goes around I don't have one of these cars. >> Just fine. >> You okay? I don't want it to be too tight on your arms, but I want you to be safe. Okay. >> Just a paper bag for all. Okay. >> Okay. >> Do you have a paper bag by any chance? >> Do you have a juvenile sheet, right? >> A what? a juvenile or she's going to go Jack, right? >> No, she's not a juvenile. >> I think she said 17. >> Oh, she said 17. >> No, she's like 29. >> She's pregnant. No, she's pregnant. >> So, she's 105 for fraud. >> Do you need an ID for her at the hospital? >> This is all she has. Sure. >> Yep. >> Until [music] Erica gets there. >> Okay. Okay, that's fine. >> All right. We'll see you in a little bit. Thank you. She was charged with grand theft, forgery, and exploitation of the elderly. Thanks for watching. Be sure to subscribe for more videos like this.