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good afternoon this is Daniel here with
cops and cons TV just want to welcome
everyone into our live show and we're
going to discuss and break down and go
over some of the most interesting cases
that involve police officers from the
last week or so so again want to welcome
everybody in looks like we have some of
our regulars in and really curious where
people are watching from looks like we
got Sergeant George in we got Levi Nolan
who is a a veteran ex-police officer
welcome in Levi who is from Oklahoma uh
let's see uh barelas from uh Colorado
hey barela what part of Colorado I go up
there all the time just curious what
part of Colorado are you in officer blue
gun looks like we have officer blue gun
in as well again all right we'll welcome
everybody into the show again my name is
Daniel please go ahead and follow me
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know one of the things that we like to
do on this live show is get as many
people in as possible that way we can
really have a good discussion and
sometimes a debate about some of not
just the cases themselves but some of
the bigger issues that ultimately pop up
in almost every single one of these
police officers let's see uh barela says
golden born and raised awesome it's
beautiful up there and PJ Smiths is from
Southern California how is everybody
doing all right so before we get into
the cases there's going to be a couple
themes that kind of run that kind of run
through these cases that I want
everybody to think about and you know if
you have questions um about these things
or or even more importantly than that
you have opinions on some of these
issues I'm really curious about it so
some of the themes and some of the
bigger issues that are going to be
involved in the cases that we're going
over with are women in policing
um I a couple of these videos that are a
couple of these cases we're going to
talk about I did do videos on my
Instagram and Tick Tock Channel earlier
and people were commenting about the
issue of women in policing also about
the issue of whether police officers
should wait for backup before they go to
a high priority call or a dangerous type
of call and also there was a question
that was asked how do people how do
police officers even do this job in far
left blue cities where it doesn't seem
like there is all that much support for
police officers so those are some of the
themes that we're going to talk about in
these cases and that first case that
we're going to talk about so this
happened in San Bernardino uh California
back in 2019 and you know even though so
I've said this before that a lot of
times there are local stories and then
there are National stories and you know
it's really strange about which stories
become National stories again so I
follow this you know I'm here on Cops
and cons TV which is an awesome body cam
channel on my own I watch and pay
attention to as much of these cases as I
can because this is what I'm interested
in and I had never heard about this case
and I had never heard about this case
until very recently and I want to talk
about it today there actually is no oh
PJ Smith hey my nephew is a is a police
officer in San Bernardino so so PJ you
might be familiar with this case all
right so what we're going to talk about
here is it this happened in 2019 but the
case just went to trial this week so I
think maybe that's why it became a
national story so here's what happened
let me set this up in 2019 in San
Bernardino California a woman called
police officers called 9-1-1 and
requested the assistance from police
officers because she wanted help the
reason she called she said that her son
a 19 year old named Ari young that he
was out of control that he was violent
that he was threatening her and she kept
yelling help help that she needs the
help of police officers police officers
were dispatched to the call for service
and you know again this would be
something that would be a high priority
type of call someone calling in saying
that they need help in the moment this
is the kind of call that you know if
available if there are resources
available police officers are going to
be dispatched to this type of call
almost immediately or surely much faster
than like someone covered a stolen car
or someone is the victim of an identity
theft crimes that are happening in the
moment typically are calls that police
officers are dispatched too quickly so
this would be in that category so a
police officer is dispatched and a
couple of the issues that I mentioned at
the beginning a female police officer
officer Megan McCarthy arrived to the
scene and she actually went to this
scene and arrived there before any of
her backups so she gets out of her
police car and she starts to approach
the residence the the woman who had
called as she's approaching the
residence she sees a couple things she
sees the woman run out of the house and
the woman is still on the phone with
9-1-1 she's able to hear the woman and
that's that's actually really common
that people stay on the phone with the
911 operator as police officers are
coming unseen so the woman was still on
the phone with a 9-1-1 operator as
officer McCarthy arrived on scene also
the officer noticed that she was armed
with a knife so it seemed like the woman
had armed herself with a knife in order
to protect herself also she observed the
offender 9 19 year old Ari young was
also there as well what happened is that
as she started to approach Mr Young and
his mother officer Mr Young started to
approach officer McCarthy in a in an
aggressive manner as he approached her
in this aggressive manner he started to
attack her he started to punch her in
the face eventually the attack was so
vicious that she ended up falling on the
ground once on the ground he continued
to to pretty much dominate her once on
the ground he was punching her in the
head as she was on the ground and then
in just a disgusting and just a cowardly
thing he was able to take her gun he
took her gun from her the officer
McCarthy or Deputy McCarthy she actually
was able to stand up and she started to
run away basically to go behind her
police vehicle for cover which you know
if you lose your gun that's a reasonable
thing for a police officer to do in
order to try to run to your to your
police vehicle at least to try to get
some cover as she's running away he
shoots at her he fires one shot in her
Direction now this isn't just me saying
this this isn't just the testimony of
Deputy Mick McCarthy this is all on
video unfortunately there isn't any body
camera video however there is cell phone
video so as the deputy arrived on scene
one of the neighbors did capture this on
cell phone video so again what happened
isn't it isn't it isn't ambiguous this
isn't a he said she said where where you
know we really have to think about or
really decipher what the facts are those
are the facts it's on video and
everybody can go ahead and watch it now
um other police officers arrived on
scene pretty quickly and they ended up
getting into a gun battle with Mr Young
Mr Young was not killed he was injured
by police officers but he was not killed
he was taken into custody and obviously
he was charged with a ton of crimes
so here are some of the crimes that he
was charged with he was charged with
attempted murder of a police officer
assault with a firearm against a police
officer negligent use of a firearm
battery against a police officer removal
of a police officer sidearm and
resisting arrest now now this is the
type of case now if you're an attorney
and you have the unfortunate job of
Defending Mr Young everything is on
video so you would assume that this is
the type of case that an attorney would
try the best they can to work out some
kind of a plea deal because in short
this should be an open and shut case a
police officer was called to the scene
someone needed help an officer gets
there not just relying on the 9-1-1 call
but the officer gets there and sees the
two individuals the mother is armed now
with a knife and then the individual who
is supposed to be the offender it's
reasonable that he's the offender of of
some type of a domestic dispute of a
violent incident with his mother he
starts to approach the officer and then
starts to attack the officer again on
video from an independent Source should
be an open and shut case well not in
California this was not an open and shut
case in California because here's what a
California jury decided this week the
two most serious charges the attempted
murder and the assault with a firearm on
a police officer they found him not
guilty not guilty so he was acquitted of
those charges the only thing that the
jury found him guilty of was negligent
use of a firearm which or negligent
discharge of a firearm which is a
misdemeanor which is you know typically
this is the kind of crime that you know
someone is walking around and there and
they're drunk and they're shooting a
firearm so um that's the that's again
it's not an unserious crime but it's a
misdemeanor crime and then the jury hung
so of course everybody knows what that
means that the jury essentially couldn't
decide whether or not that they didn't
have enough votes they couldn't
determine on a unanimous basis whether
they were guilty or not guilty on the
charges of uh battery against a police
officer removal of an officer sidearm
and resisting arrest so the the the
charges that have already been
adjudicated the the two serious ones
that he was found not guilty of nothing
the state can do about that so those
aren't going to be retried obviously he
was found guilty of the negligent use of
a firearm but because he had spent time
in jail essentially got credit time
served for that so he was actually
released now those three charges that
the jury hung on so the district
attorney has said that they actually are
going to um retry him on those charges
at a later date there's essentially a
pre-trial hearing that's going to be
coming up in the next couple months
where the D.A is going to essentially
going to try to prosecute those three
charges so one of them is a is a is a
felony charge the removal of a police
officer sidearm so at least one of those
charges is still you know a more serious
crime obviously not as serious as
attempted murder of a police officer so
um the the officer or Deputy McCarthy um
she did do an interview after she did do
an interview after
after
um after uh after the verdict came out
and uh she was on the the media the last
couple days and she was obviously pretty
shocked about by what happened
um so some of the themes that we that we
talked about
um some of the themes that we that we
talked about I'm going to get into those
now but I'm really curious to see what
some of your some of your questions are
so we have a couple different comments
about how California is a joke and and
I'm gonna go there in a second which is
which is absolutely crazy
um so there was a lot of speculation
about why this happened and I'll get to
that here in a second PJ Smith says it's
sad that studies show only about 15 of
shots fired by law enforcement hit their
intended targets so yes guns can be
dangerous in anyone's hands it's up to
you to keep your skills up PJ I agree
with you 100 and uh yeah you know I've
talked about that before PJ is that some
people you don't think this which is
good so some people think that all
police officers are like trained
Sharpshooters not every police officer
goes through SWAT school and yes even
though you are a trained police officer
you do have training you you do have to
keep all your Firearms qualifications
every year still police officers are
humans and how human beings perform
underneath underneath stressful
situations and how police officers
perform under stress we know how this we
have science and psychology behind how
human beings perform under stress and it
isn't that good so yeah that 15 is about
rights I'm thinking about Barney Fife
only had one bullet so he's probably not
going to shoot a whole lot of things uh
let's see uh yeah ois means ois means
officer involved shooting Shaquille
oatmeal says what are your thoughts on
the white woman shooting the black
neighbor Shaq we will go ahead and get
to that case later on absolutely officer
blue gun says what God what good does
that do the system has allowed them to
be free in society to be re-victimized
uh let's see uh Sergeant George says the
ruling of that case combined with the
sense of entitlement from the D.A really
left a horrendous taste in my mouth I
mean uh it was clear that the deputy was
doing her job the best that she can yeah
I I absolutely agree so now let's talk
about under what circumstances how is it
possible that again it's on video how in
the world is is what was the legal
argument that made it so the jury found
not guilty on the attempted murder and
the assault with a firearm against the
police officer so if we're looking at
just the lawyering from the defense
attorney it was actually pretty creative
so here's what the attorney for Mr Young
said Mr Young said hey the police
officer got unseen and there wasn't an
investigation yet so essentially at the
time the police officer arrived on scene
there was no reason to detain Mr Young
there was no reason to detain there was
essentially no Reasonable Suspicion to
detain I dispute that but this is the
argue from the attorney there was no
Reasonable Suspicion to detain so if
there's no reason for the police officer
to detain Mr Young then he has every
right to fight the police officer even
going to the point of shooting a gun at
a police officer so that was essentially
the argument that he made um he made the
argument that because there wasn't
reasonable suspicion no reason for the
officer to detain Mr Young that Mr Young
had every right to use self-defense and
defend himself against the police
officer so I think it was that which is
is not a great legal argument but I mean
honestly it's the only legal argument
that he had if he was going to take this
case to trial mixed with an obvious
anti-police sentiment so um you know
this was a white police officer this is
an African-American suspect this is
California where it is it is very
liberal I'm not pro-police in in the
slightest or even or even objective or
even objective down the middle where you
can look at video evidence of something
and just base it on that so I think it's
a combination between those two things
but let's pick apart that argument just
a little bit so let's assume so well
let's see I believe that there was
reasonable suspicion that a crime has
been committed so we have to ask what is
reasonable suspicion Reasonable
Suspicion is just reasonable suspicion
that a crime has been committed it's
essentially an extremely low level and
that's all police officers need in order
to take someone's Freedom away
temporarily in order to detain them so
essentially it's it's much lower than
probable cause much lower than probable
cause but more than a hunch so a hunch I
mean basically when a police officer has
a hunch that is seeing something without
any evidence and then thinking well I
think something's happening because of
that so obviously this is more than a
hunch the reason was is because we have
a 9-1-1 call so we have a 911
where a woman accuses her son of a crime
she's yelling help me help me that she
needs police officers there okay so you
that you have that a police officer
arrives on scene and then it's not like
you get there and everyone is there and
they're playing basketball or they're
they're swimming in a pool or they're
just there there's no there's no
evidence of any kind of a dispute well
you have the 9-1-1 call and if what the
police officer sees when they arrive on
scene if that doesn't match what's on
the 9-1-1 call a police officer can't
just go and put every single mother and
son in handcuffs until they figure it
out no but that's not what happened the
officer arrived on scene and was able to
see and make contact with the woman who
is still on the phone with 9-1-1 she had
armed herself with a knife in order to
protect herself and then the son who had
been accused of a crime is being
aggressive walking aggressively towards
the police officer do those facts and
circumstances reach the level of
reasonable suspicion yes of course it
does that is absolutely 100 percent
Reasonable Suspicion of a crime is being
committed because again reasonable
suspicious it's more than a hunch less
than probable cause of course that meets
Reasonable Suspicion so I so I I that
doesn't make a whole lot of sense there
also in order for this case to go to
trial at all the judge would have to
find that there was probable cause so
probable cause which is a higher
standard than Reasonable Suspicion so a
judge in order for this case to even get
to the level of it going to trial a
judge had to determine that there was
probable cause for these charges against
Mr Young so but now basically the judge
is saying that there's probable cause
and then we have a jury who doesn't know
anything and they're basically saying
that no not only is there not probable
cause but there wasn't even Reasonable
Suspicion so that's how you know that
this is and you know this is
one of the things that attorneys do one
of the things that good defense
attorneys do and you know this is what
they're supposed to do the attorneys
know this is why most attorneys defense
attorneys they want to take a trial to a
jury not with a judge because judges are
smart yes judges can be influenced and
they can be biased but judges know the
law and judges are typically smart
individuals juries are dumb juries are
typically dumb and they don't know the
law and what attorneys like to do is
they like to throw as much against
the wall and hope something sticks
that's absolutely what happened here so
some of the other charges some of the
other things
um yeah and and juries are paid you know
15 15 a day so there isn't really all
that much incentive to stay there long
um uh to do to do too much
um so let's see uh any other questions
about this case yeah so this actually
brought up a couple different issues so
that actually
um uh that actually yeah so the jurors
are paid 15 a day and you know the best
thing that they can hope for is that
it's an interesting case that becomes a
national story that they're able to
write write a book and make some kind of
a profit on it which does happen
sometimes uh Shaquille O'Neal says I
would never want to judge the sentence
me I would want a jury a hundred percent
if you're a defendant you absolutely 100
want it to be a jury you do not want to
it to be a judge because again judges
are smart juries typically aren't or
there's other motivations there I was on
jury let me tell you story real quick I
was on a jury one time before I was a
police officer I was in college and we
got into the jury the into the jury room
and it was an obvious case I mean it was
obviously going to be a guilty verdict
on like four charges um there really
wasn't much of much um there really
wasn't a whole lot that that the defense
did um so it was obviously that this was
going to be a guilty and but when we
walked in one of the individuals uh
there that I walked into into the Jury
Room with he one of the first thing he
said before we talked about guilt or or
not guilty or any of the evidence before
we talked about anything he said I've
been a firefighter for 33 years I'm just
about to uh retire from from the fire
department I don't have a whole lot of
time whatever you guys decide I'll just
go with you so so I mean my one instance
my guess is that individual he's not the
only person to say that in a in a jury
room so
um but this case did bring up when I
when I put a video a little video of
this case on Tick Tock and Instagram a
couple people said some different things
that I wanted to talk about and address
a couple people said that this is why
women shouldn't be police officers and
I'm just going to go ahead and and
dispute that this has nothing to do with
it being a female police officer I mean
if it's a male if it's a male who isn't
in shape or doesn't know how to use
defensive tactics or a male who is just
not as strong as Mr Young is this exact
same thing could have happened most of
the time when we see officers who get in
situations where they can't handle them
themselves physically it's a male police
officer so the idea that this is some
evidence that females shouldn't be cops
I think is absolutely ridiculous if
anything I think this says more about
the second issue I want to talk about is
should officers have backup and my
opinion is yes in a case like this yes
it's a high priority call you want to
get there however it is so important for
officers to go in with backup to at
least wait till there's another officer
in fact a lot of different police
departments have policies where they say
if it's a domestic violence call if it's
these types of call that you have to
wait for backup that's part of the
policy and the reason is to avoid a
situation just like this now obviously
cases where and obviously cases where
the officers shouldn't wait for backup
but is something like if there's an
active shooter um so if there's an
active shooter someone actively shooting
no that is the training now is to just
go in and engage the shooter right now
but if it's anything less than that yes
the thing to do is to try to wait for
backup so I'm not sure why she didn't
wait for backup so that would be my
criticism so if I was going to ask
questions about this case that would be
it why didn't the officer wait for
backup um is it just maybe it's the
culture in San Bernardino County that
you know maybe it's the culture that hey
you know everybody takes calls by
themselves if you need backup go ahead
and call for it um the agency that I
worked for that wasn't the culture any
kind of a call like this especially
domestic violence call you're going in
with two officers again unless someone
is being unless there's shots being
fired right now and you need to get in
to Save a Life um police officers always
um do that let's see office Mr Blue gun
says of course most of these cases we
see are male because 90 percent of cops
mail absolutely so officer blue gun the
only thing I was saying is that um uh
this can happen to men and it can happen
to women I think it's at least to me
it's not so much that she was female
um it said that she did didn't wait for
backup uh let's see PJ says just the
other day here in Orange County we had a
male a California Highway Patrol motor
officer was put into a choke hold by a
driver he'd pull over and was being
overpowered but some citizens helped him
out I saw that video that is an awesome
video yes Sergeant George says all you
have to do uh is just think of this
channel like it's high school okay oh
let's see uh are we talking about the
female officer that ended the homeless
guy uh no we're not talking about that
case officer blue gun says uh uh we see
a disproportionate number of situations
where the cops get beat up or are forced
to use higher levels of force because
they physically cannot handle the
situation among female officers yeah I
mean I I I've seen it with both male and
female yes um but is this situation
where um so is this system what I always
say officer blue gun is is what I would
always prefer is and I don't want
officers to use unnecessary or excessive
force of course but what I would like to
see police officers use more is use
their intermediate weapons their their
tasers and things like that use that
quicker to hopefully avoid a situation
like an officer involved shooting so if
the officer was equipped with a taser
while he's approaching her in aggressive
manner that's a time I would prefer an
officer to utilize a taser whether they
are male or female utilize some of these
usually utilize some of these more
intermediate weapons quicker to
hopefully avoid more Force later on or a
situation where a police officer has
their gun taken from them
um so yeah so that's a that's that's
that's that that first case um
everybody's pretty irritated who's seen
the video and I encourage everybody to
go watch it everybody's pretty irritated
that he was not he was found not guilty
but I think there were some other things
that that went on there uh uh Jose L
narwhal says all officers should ride
around with a partner it works it's just
hard to find police even now yeah that's
that's really interesting Jose
um so what a lot of police departments
do is that they don't necessarily have
police officers ride in the same car but
two officers and two different cars
they're dispatched to a call together so
if there's a domestic violence call um
even though officers aren't in the same
car together what they do is they send
both officers to the call and
dispatchers specifically never send just
one officer so that way you always have
two officers at a car at a call but
they're not necessarily in the same
vehicle police departments do this for a
couple different reasons so let me just
say this Jose so let's say and they've
actually done studies on this about
about why police departments um uh
cities manage it this way but if you if
you think about it if if you think about
it this way it's let's say you have 10
officers that are working a shift well
if you have 10 officers that are working
a shift in a specific area and they're
each in their own car you have 10 patrol
cars that are running around you are
going around the city for that entire
shift so that makes it seem like there's
more police officers than if they were
doubled up and then for the entire shift
in this area there's only five police
cars driving around so that's one of the
it gives it gives citizens and it gives
criminals the illusion that's actually
more police officers on duty than there
actually are so they they've done
studies on this and that's why a lot of
different police departments have gone
to that model also another aside from
that is what a lot of police departments
have done is they also let officers take
home their cars so that way when
officers are driving to and from work um
you know a lot of times it's difficult
or people really can't tell if an
officer is driving to and from work or
if they're actually on duty so it gives
the illusion and also police officers
can drive their cars to court when
they're off duty so it gives the
illusion that there are more police off
officers than there actually are and
that's one of the reasons why police
officers do that officer blue guns has
agreed every unit should be a two
officer police car it's safer for the
police and the public I'm officer blue
gun um yeah I mean the agency that I
worked for were single officers in a car
but again every single call that you're
dispatched to
um you're you're a dispatched with
another officer
um I like Kevin I liked having my own
space in a car kind of being able to do
my own thing but still taking calls
um with with my partner who's in another
vehicle I I definitely preferred that
um I'm originally from Chicago a lot of
my friends did stay back behind and our
Chicago police officers They Ride two to
two officers in the car all of the all
of the time
um yeah so it's um it's it's kind of it
can go back and forth between different
departments um yeah one of the one of
the real really good movies when it
comes to officers um you know basically
having two officers in the car is a end
of End of Watch so definitely check that
if you haven't alright so the next
couple of cases I'm going to talk about
happened in Denver Colorado so I know
someone in here earlier said that they
were uh said that they were from Golden
Colorado which I believe is a suburb of
Denver probably only about 30 minutes
away or so correct me if I'm wrong but I
think it's I think it's a pretty pretty
close um Golden Colorado is also where
Coors is brewed as well so Coors Light
has become more popular in the last in
the last couple weeks especially with
our viewers here on Cops and cons TV so
the couple of these cases happened in
Denver Colorado and it's and it it's
it's been really strange a couple of
days there in Denver so um a couple days
ago over on uh June 7th of this past
year at four o'clock in the morning a
police officer was working and just as
part of the officer's Duty he was
sitting in front of a hotel
um there wasn't a call he's probably
finishing up reports but you know really
was just kind of in between calls and
even in a city like Denver there isn't
going to be a whole lot happening at
four o'clock in the morning so an
officer was just sitting there pretty
much in front of a hotel he did observe
a male entered the hotel now this meal
wasn't a suspect a suspect of a crime
police officer wasn't trying to contact
him there were no calls for service
about him just a random person just that
from the officer's point of view a
random person just entered the hotel
once the officer entered the enter once
the individual entered the hotel he came
out a few minutes later when he came out
a few minutes later for no reason
without saying anything
um he started to shoot and fire at the
police officer who was sitting in the
car
um I mean that's not a great position
for a police officer to be in because
when you're sitting in a car you have
all your gear on you have a computer in
the situation like that it could be
really difficult to to get to your
firearm in a timely manner in something
like this like you have to do it quick
the officer was shot multiple times most
of those bullets did hit him in in the
bullet provest did save his life which
is great however the officer was able to
um get out of the car engage in a gun
battle with the suspect um both
individuals the officer and the bad guy
were transported to the hospital um the
officer will survive like I said his
life was saved by the bulletproof vest
however
um bad guy did die from his injuries
um there's still there's still it just
isn't a whole lot of even though this
was like you know two or three days ago
there was still there's still not a
whole lot of information about the
motive behind this like why would this
guy just pick out a random officer who
isn't dude he's not engaged in any kind
of an activity that would be offensive
to anyone he's just sitting there in the
police car so what would motivate that
so we still don't have that information
actually the individual's name at least
as of this morning hasn't even been
released yet so we don't have a whole
lot of information about that but as
pretty scary and dangerous for police
officers so again as a police officer
when you do a traffic stop or you stop a
vehicle on a high risk felony stop or
you go to a domestic violence call it's
not that you expect to be shot or expect
to be attacked but you're you're kind of
you're not in code red but you're you're
definitely in in code yellow you're kind
of there in the middle like you kind of
you know that okay something could
happen this is a situation where this
could be dangerous I could face some
kind of attack I could have to use some
kind of a force but typically when
you're just sitting there in your car
writing reports a police officer isn't
going to be on edge at that point
because the idea that someone is just
going to come up and start shooting
randomly at you in your vehicle pretty
much at Point Blank Range is a pretty
serious scary and just a really crazy
thing to happen so luckily the police
officer uh did did survive and um and
he's going to be okay
um and then about 12 hours later also in
Denver there was another shooting of a
Denver police officer so again about 12
hours later police officers were working
and there was a shots fired call so
there's a shots fired call so what
typically what happens there when
there's a shots fired call when there's
no specific victim calling in saying hey
I'm I'm injured or
um this is this is the I have the
offender here or you know anything like
that so when there's just a random shots
fired call typically what happens is
police officers go to the scene and they
try to make sure everyone's okay see if
they see any evidence of someone who
still might want to shoot or at the very
minimum at least put a police presence
in the area so just like I said before
just put police presence in the area to
try to deter any future shootings so
that's what happened here police
officers got unseen and they actually
talked to one of the witnesses who gave
it who gave a description of the
offender while police officers were on
foot patrol looking out for this
offender who had been shooting in the
area police officers located the
offender when they located him he
actually fled the scene on a scooter a
police officer did a couple things a
couple of them actually gave Chase on
foot other group of police officers got
in their cars and they were chasing this
guy on a scooter while they were chasing
him on the scooter he did turn around
and he did shoot at police officers one
police officer was shot in the chest
luckily again saved by the bulletproof
vest and police officers did return fire
and the individual was not killed the
individual is in critical condition
again there's no there's no any more
information about that um other than you
know this is a this is to have two
officer involved shootings where
officers were actually shot within a
within a 12-hour period is a pretty
crazy thing even for a large city like
Denver so we don't have any information
on a motive or anything like that but
you would have to think that there's
it's more when officers go to a shots
fired call okay you have someone that
you know is armed and they've already
fired a gun so you know that okay this
could be more dangerous than than that
first case in Denver where the officer
was you know just sitting in his Patrol
vehicle not doing anything but it's good
to say that both police officers were
safe um both plea both police officers
do have injuries but they are going to
survive um first bad guy dead second bad
guy in critical condition
um so those were the cases Denver
Colorado let's see what kind of cases we
uh comments we have uh looks like a
couple people saying Barella from Golden
saying I remember when Colorado used to
be a nice place we had local businesses
owners calling the cops on homeless
encampment a guy came out of his tent
with the machete attacked him and his
brother yeah that can that can
definitely definitely happen uh let's
see PJ also says San Diego Police had an
officer shot yesterday and we have a
massive Manhunt going down there for the
shoot yes I saw that I saw that case as
well PJ absolutely Sergeant George says
as if Denver doesn't already have enough
problems going on these shootouts are
worse absolutely no it 100 does all
right uh so the last case that I I that
I I want to talk about is it's a it's
more of a more of a feel-good story um
it kind of this one has a this one has a
good ending so this happened in uh North
Myrtle Beach South Carolina
um on May 28th uh so not all that long
ago so a couple weeks ago where last
week May 28th of this year
um here's what happened so an officer
and what I want to say about this is
that you know a lot of times in other
police officers in here correct me if
I'm wrong but a lot of times when a
police officer is on the last hour or
especially the last half hour on their
shift they aren't looking to do a whole
lot a lot of times they go ahead and
what they call is they go ahead and they
put on the blinders meaning they're not
looking to get into anything they're not
looking to make any arrests or to take
any calls they're going to hold them
over shift because everybody no matter
what job you do you want to go home at
the end of your shift you know there
aren't a whole lot of people who are
excited about you know know you know I'd
like to stay over an extra three hours
today and do do a bunch of paperwork so
there's not a lot of people really in
any profession that are excited about
that so um officer Wallace working for
the the North Myrtle Beach a police
department in South Carolina she was in
the last half hour of her shift and
again most of the time when police
officers on there on the last half hour
of their shift they are sitting in front
of a hotel writing police reports they
are behind the 7-Eleven there they're in
the substation parking lot they're at
the gym they're not doing a whole lot
that last half hour but officer Wallace
was so officer Wallace was on patrol the
last uh at five and this was at 5 30 in
the morning so again most police
officers at 5 30 in the morning aren't
doing a whole lot because that is a
miserable time to work no matter what
you're doing so at 5 30 in the morning
she's in the last half hour of her shift
um she is she is still actively
patrolling she sees the vehicle run a
red light and she does the traffic stop
while officer Wallace while officer
Wallace is conducting the traffic stop
she notices that it is a she notices
that it is a um she notices that it is a
female driver and a male passenger and
she noticed that the female driver seems
like she is extremely nervous and scared
and just isn't acting right and that the
male isn't looking just looking just
deadhead Straight Ahead not looking at
the officer not looking at the driver
not saying anything just looking
straight ahead and it was at that point
that while she's still sitting there the
female driver mouths to the to the
officer helped me help me
um the officer sees that obviously
notices that something is strange and
the officer immediately takes action she
goes around to the passenger side she
has the pen the male passenger step out
she placed them in handcuffs sits him in
the back seat of the police vehicle once
she goes back up to talk to the driver
the uh the the driver says that
something just unbelievably crazy the
driver says thank you so much she said
that uh and the driver was a 29 year old
female and she said that the that the
male whose name ended up being Collins
Bates that he had just shot someone that
he was involved in a shooting and that
after he shot someone he basically at
gunpoint forced her forced his way into
her vehicle and told told her to drive
him away from the scene so she's
basically being kidnapped at gunpoint
um during this time essentially you know
right at the same time that the officer
is talking to the female a bolo a B on
the lookout comes out over the radio and
as it comes out over the radio
and as it comes out over the radio the
call says that be on the lookout for
this vehicle I believe is a white jeep
that throws a white jeep that was
involved in a shooting
um a search of the car um you know with
permission from the driver because it
was her car I found that there was a
firearm underneath a Mr Mr bates's seats
and um yeah so he had just done a he had
just been involved in a shooting where
he injured someone and then it was an
armed kidnapping in order to get away so
that was great work by Officer Wallace
um she was actually recognized by the
city for that so that's a feel-good
story and that's a really good thing for
her to do again as police officers
there's always an incentive to not do
anything in that lasts half hour but
sometimes you could just do really good
work if you put in that extra half hour
which is really really difficult to do
um so the last case that I am going to
talk about um is something that PJ Smith
just brought up um I did see this
earlier today and I'm going to go ahead
and talk about it here the little that I
know about it so PJ Smith says anybody
uh any aliens on body camera anyone see
that was it Las Vegas area or New Mexico
the UFO captured on body camera and then
the 911 call is about to 8 and 10 foot
tall beans all right okay so let me tell
you what I know about this case it is
unbelievably interesting I think that
stuff like this
um I I think that stuff like this is
interesting so here's what happened and
I just saw this this morning
um so in the last couple hours I really
haven't looked into it a whole lot but
essentially here's what happened is that
someone called in to to police officers
and they said that and they said that um
something crazy this is in Las Vegas Las
Vegas Nevada is that they called and
they said that something crashed in
their yard and that after this this
thing crashed in their yard they heard a
loud boom and that they went out there
and they saw
um figures they call them not humans
they called them beans like some type of
a bean that wasn't a human that to eight
there were eight to ten foot tall and
that they were they were walking around
walking around the yard so conspiracy
theories have been just wild police
officers get there obviously when
officers get there there really isn't
any evidence isn't any evidence or
anything like that and the family does
appear pretty calm for just seeing what
they are reported to have seen if you
watch the body camera footage at least
some of the footage that at least some
of the footage that I've seen uh the
police officers are kind of laughing and
joking around with the family about
stuff now there was um some on other
police officer dash cam video in that
area there was something in the sky that
happened right before that or at least
that's what the reports are you know
right before this call for a service
came in on police dash camera there is
something in the sky that pretty much
lights up and looks like it's going down
to the ground now the the the weather
Society or the the people who manage
that kind of stuff did say that that was
a meteor or something like that so
obviously there's going to be all kind
of conspiracy theories um on the body
camera footage you can't see anything
now I've heard that there is actually
cell phone camera footage out there from
the callers that they took you know
before police got there I wasn't able to
find again I'll be honest I didn't look
real hard because I was looking at the
other cases for today but I did do a
quick search and I wasn't able to find
at least a couple hours ago though I
have heard it's out there is that there
is some kind of cell phone camera
footage that was taken by the callers
and essentially that in the cell phone
camera footage it was what it sounds
like it's dark because this is at night
is that you can see something moving
around out there
um but uh uh you know it's not great um
so again the family appeared calm Las
Vegas police records blacked out uh the
backyard uh footage when when they go
when they go to the to the backyard
um so I mean every state every
jurisdiction has different laws when it
comes to body camera footage so
um yeah I think it's per Nevada state
law is what they're saying is why they
is why they did blackout and redact some
of what's on the video obviously that
it's only going to lead to more
conspiracy theories
um so yeah so we'll go ahead and uh and
uh see um it's just it's just important
to know that you know we do request body
camera footage this is mainly a body
camera channel right we try to find the
most interesting body camera footage
you're not going to see anywhere else um
but you know one of the things about
Nevada and every state is different so
one thing's about Nevada is that when
you request video from Nevada
um they actually charge 300 uh 300 an
hour per video because they redact these
three they redact videos unbelievably
heavily in the state of Nevada and they
charge people these are public records
they charge people who are requesting it
300 an hour in order to do it so it's
typically not something that we do here
um I think it's Las Vegas Metro that's
300 an hour so um yeah so we we
typically don't we typically don't do
that here
um but uh yeah some states in most
States you know it's it's it's it's free
but um uh yeah a lot of a lot of media
the pay fees but not fees that are are
that large um so it's really seems like
it they're trying to to limit how body
camera footage is is disseminated but
this body camera footage again it it was
redacted that's it's pretty typical with
them so um if we have anything more on
that we'll go ahead and let you know um
so just a little teaser for next week so
the case that I'm following it I really
wanted to wait until the case was over
with before I talked about it but a
little teaser for next week so everybody
remembers the Parkland shooting uh
school shooting over in Florida so there
was a police officer who was on site
when that happened and if you remember
that police officer
um he actually did not go
um he actually did not I think his name
is Scott Peterson so he doesn't have a
great name but he's an older guy Scott
Peterson he didn't go into the building
where the shooting was
um so you know basically he was
essentially charged with all kinds of
crimes
um because of that finally now even
though the shooting happened 2017. he's
actually on trial right now so the trial
should wrap up this week if it does um
we'll definitely talk about it because
I'm curious to see what people think
about it but um uh his defense is that
he didn't know where the shooting was is
coming from and so you can so we can get
into that next week but he said that you
know he's he's basically in he's outside
and he hears shooting and because of
Echoes and stuff like that he had no
idea which building the shooting was
coming from he was trying to decipher
that that's why he didn't enter and
engage the shooter um obviously the
prosecutors the families don't agree
which is why he is charged with some
pretty serious crimes so we will go
ahead and talk about that next week
because we'll be deeper into the trial
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