State lawmaker Republican representative
Jim Lucas of Indiana
was arrested in late May 2023 on
suspicion of drunk driving after
crashing his vehicle and leaving the
scene of the crash
oh yeah for sure
man he's been red and he doesn't want to
talk okay where's the core at car's on
the other side
down that way yeah other high speed
units over there okay all right
do you want to go to your car man
I'll do whatever you guys want tell me
all right I'll take it back to the car I
have a gun in his knife on the car all
right so do you have any weapons on your
anything no they took I volunteered them
they took no I wasn't actually done
you're good it's just what I do when we
put people in a car you know what I'm
saying that's why volunteered them okay
very good all right let's go to your car
man uh you're right with me though uh
like I said he checked it so follow me
with your stuff right uh unless you got
some place you can get to no okay yeah
all right
give me one second
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I'll put this in my trunk man
one more second
all right I got him in my car I'm gonna
go down to the crash scene I just want
to get my parts so I can smell anything
but I got obviously he's refusing to
talk I guess yeah I can smell it when I
was standing stumbling when he was
walking yeah first officer went through
here and said she saw him walked across
the roadway here from that direction
where the vehicle is okay
um and then they
he and also and I looked over and saw
them during the first few minutes could
you tell me who your Hong Kong judges
for me because if he's already not
talking yeah
does she do online stuff yeah I think
she does uh
text it okay do you have her number
it's been so long since I've done one in
Jackson County I've always had to go to
uh
for tavish yeah always going to go to
this house
hey
um Travis how does she do the warrants
this year
email okay and then uh what's her email
address yeah
okay
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is that and it's the full County it's
not just the award
okay okay do you have a phone number for
you call her once you send it to her
does she on it she wants us to call
ahead of time right
yeah I'm ready foreign
we found your car back here
uh
so obviously I know they did
Reggie Miranda I'm gonna read it to you
again just to cover my basis okay
obviously I know they read it but I
still want to read it too okay
before we ask you any questions you must
understand your rights yeah the right to
remain silent anything to say Can will
be used against you in a quarter wall
you know the right to talk to the Lord
for advice before we ask you any
questions and have them with you during
questioning if you're not afford a
lawyer won't be appointed to you before
any questions if you wish if you just
decide to answer questions now without a
lawyer present you'll still have the
right to stop answering at any time you
also have the red stop answer anytime
until you talk to a lawyer you
understand these rights I do okay
all right
with those rights in mind do you wish to
answer any questions I might have for
you I do not okay
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let me in route with Mr Lucas to 70.
coming around to 70 with the driver
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74 is out with 70.
all right so I said we're going to
investigate in a crash uh obviously that
vehicle matches the description of the
vehicle that was involved in a crash
obvious damage to it it's on
three wheels obvious uh so we got that
uh you're the red strongest vehicle
found you walking
short distance away
um
I said you don't I just explain too much
going on uh so the vehicle's getting
towed obviously for damage so what he's
doing now is he's just conducting an
inventory okay he's not searching the
vehicle he's just conducting an
inventory if there's anything valuable
in the vehicle uh we'll document it on
the toe form and there is a Glock 19
Glock 19 with One in the Chamber in the
middle console okay all right I'll let
him know but like I said it's not a
search it's just for us that way when we
tow it and it goes to the tow yard if
something comes up stolen it covers Us
and the tow company because there's a
documented I'm telling you guys on the
handgun thing no you're good I do
appreciate you honesty on that
uh I'm on your side okay
so I want to read you something else
okay
all right can you hear me all right I
can I have probably possibly entry
evaporated vehicle on Tosh now I feel
the opportunity to submit to a chemical
test and inform you that your refusal to
spit to a chemical test will result in
the suspension of your driving
privileges for one year if you have at
least one previous conviction for
operating on top skate your refusal to
submit to a chemical test will result in
the suspension every driving privileges
for two years we now take a chemical
test I will you will okay so I can smell
alcohol I mean straight up honest with
you uh you've been honest with me I can
smell alcohol
so what we'll do is we'll get out we'll
run some tests do PBT and we'll go from
there okay
there is a firearm in the center console
uh just won the chamber yeah there's one
in the chamber it's a Glock it's got Zeb
trigger so it's touchy all right so go
ahead and get out for me we'll do sfses
and we'll go from there right
no I don't have one uh did you get your
EBT
I got these
cheers
you need any of these Keys like a house
key or anything like that
those ones probably
10 foreign
all right so we'll walk up here it's a
little bit flatter
not sloped
all right yeah that'll work just have
stand right there for me face me
do you have any medical conditions
anything with your eyes
I wear contacts you wear contacts right
what kind of contacts are there are they
uh
High Focus okay all right so you don't
have any medical conditions anything
else that you know about high blood
pressure I take medication for that okay
all right are you coming from walking in
those shoes sure okay all right so it's
first that's right is horizontal gaze
right so I need you to do is watch the
top of my pin follow with your eyes your
eyes only okay don't move any other part
of your body all right can you see it
yes all right Can You Reach Out And
Touch it for me make sure you see it
all right so I said just follow with
your eyes your eyes only okay
same thing just gonna go up okay
okay all right so this next test we use
this line right here okay it's cracked
uh so I need you to do stand right here
that joint
face that direction
you say that's pretty straight line
correct
yes okay so I need you to do is take
your left foot
and place it on that line just like so
take your left foot place on that line
right foot directly in front Heel To Toe
hands down at your side
all right hold this position until I
tell you to begin okay
begin you're gonna take a series of nine
steps nine steps down and that's that
mat that line on the ground hands on
your side Heel To Toe counting your
steps out loud okay it's gonna look
something similar to this
one two three all the way to nine once
you get the nine we're gonna make a
series of small steps can you'll do a
position for me though yeah you gotta
hold that for me all right
so once you get to nine you're gonna
make a series of small steps keeping
your front foot step planted
as soon as the small steps
you're gonna turn around and come back
on that same straight line nine steps
back okay one two three Heel To Toe
counting your steps out loud all right
yes once you begin the test you do not
stop the test
counter stats out loud watch your feet
at all times keep your hands on your
side okay do you have any questions do
you understand my instructions okay you
may begin
one
three
four
five
six six seven eight
one two three
four five six seven eight
all right so this next one is going to
be one leg stand okay whichever leg
you're comfortable with you're gonna
start like this feet together hands out
your side when I tell you two you're
gonna raise your foot approximately six
inches off the ground okay so your legs
can be straight foot's gonna be parallel
to the ground it's gonna be
approximately six inches off the ground
all right while you're doing that you're
gonna count out loud one thousand one
one thousand two one thousand three and
so forth and I'll tell you to stop okay
so it's gonna look something similar to
this
1001 1002 1003 and so forth and I tell
you stop okay if you by chance put your
foot down for any reason just pick it
back up and continue where you're at
okay uh watch your feet at all times
watch your race foot at all times both
legs straight hands down to your sides
okay do you understand these
instructions I do all right finishing
these instructions
you may begin
one
two
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two all right you can rest
all right so last thing we got all right
it's a portable breath test okay so on
this one Court uh it's just for me to
determine if the clues that I just saw
during sfst's or alcohol if it's
controlled substance okay uh
we want to take a PBT for me
yes okay all right
thank you all right so it's a brand new
straw no one's used it I haven't dipped
it in alcohol or anything
foreign
thank you
all right
hang on for that all right
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all right so if you want to go and put
that in your pocket for me all right all
we need to do now is turn around face
away from me okay
yeah
everyone dude let me do me a favor all
right I'm gonna get double comfy that
way it's a little bit more you're not
very flexible back here are you all
right all right just walk over here to
my car for me I'll go to the front of my
car
at least I'm gonna Double Cup yet help
you out
just hang out there for one second all
right
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all right
how's that is that good obviously I know
they're not comfortable but
this one
as as loosens they're gonna get right
all right they're all double locked for
you that way don't tighten up on you
anymore
all right we'll set you back in here
okay
all right go ahead and have a seat right
there for me watch ahead
all right so if you scoot your butt
forward as far as you can it'll create
some of that pocket for your hands back
here maybe a little bit a little bit
easier on you
your pvts on your bar
so there's not a gun in the center
console
so there's no gun do you know where it'd
be
yeah okay by the by the gear shift the
gear shift by the gear shift is it down
like in the seat
I can show you how many hours
we'll get it
if you can't leave a gun in the cars
issue that's what I'm saying I'll show
you where it's at if you can't okay
we'll have a look one more time all
right hey it's okay by the center gear
shift
there's a flat plate a flat plastic
piece okay just lift up on it okay all
right
you got
hey there's you tell them there's one in
the chamber yeah okay you told them that
just make sure very good I appreciate
that uh
so what's going on now your pvt is above
the legal limit okay
um obviously failed sfst's right I saw a
conclusive impairment uh obviously
already Reggie this but I read you this
because I didn't think you you invoked
your right to remain silent so I read
you this but you cooperate with
everything else I'm gonna read it to you
one more time I have a private class I
believe you operate vehicle intoxicated
and it's now offered the opportunity to
submit off the opportunity to chemical
test and inform you that your refusal
cement take chemical test will result in
suspension of your driver improve it did
for one year if you have at least one
previous conviction for operating one
intoxicated your refutable dismantic
chemical test horizontal suspension
every driver and privileges for two
years we now take a chemical test I just
did
yeah I well okay so
chemical test is going to be a blood
draw conducted by phlebotomist at snack
medical okay uh we'll go there they have
staff that does it and we'll go from
there okay
nothing there's a 31 record they won't
take them
yeah I got a bag with one in my trunk
yeah in the center console they're
they're a bunch of mags yeah so 31
record that's who's I believe getting a
vehicle they won't take it if there's
anything in there
so who's taking the max so those all be
logged
as evidence but there's no holds on them
that's not issued in a crime you just
have to go to the State Police for sales
posts to pick them up so they're holding
them
I can't I can't leave them with you no
no no no I just want nowhere to get them
yeah I'll give you all that information
okay thanks yeah
there should be another four or five
there should be like three or four in
the trunk
oh
foreign
those were down on the floorboard the
driver floorboard I just threw them in
there this it's like a couple bucks
um just so that way you're aware of it
okay there's um is there anything else
of value in there in the driver's side
off on the
there's a little
pocket that's a little thing that opens
up a bunch of ones and I mean it's
manual there's a bunch of ones in there
on the visor I've got fives did you get
in the middle console
so the very bottom the center console
down in the like where you've lift up
the thing yes yeah what's down there the
cash cash you have cash down there yeah
okay so the fives on the visor visor and
the visor ones are in the door in the
door pocket good yeah door pocket cash
in the center console okay
um you also there's some extra mags I
got the yep those are all going in here
45s and
Glocks and there might be a couple cigs
in there okay
um on the top right
up there
um
I think there might be some 20s or
something up there okay just I'll I'll
find all I'll find it all I
can go okay
you might just one last thing yeah if
you look at the center up above there's
a really nice pair of sunglasses I just
got them big revos okay uh there's this
the case is in the center console okay
do you want that with you I'm just
leaving the truck and document it
whatever we'll document it that there's
sunglasses surprise okay I'll have them
document that uh so is this your wallet
one one of them all right I'm just gonna
put your money in it uh that's cool
because you can't so we're they're kind
of weird about how we uh pull cars
you can't leave Firearms arms in it you
can't leave money
uh so
it's more than I thought it was in there
[ __ ] maybe I should find a bit in there
I'm gonna get a little baggie for you
okay thank you it's one of your wallets
do you want a different one
I got the one in my I got one in the
pocket okay all right
all right
so all your money's in there with that
I'll be right there
all the time about your sunglasses and
we'll get on our way all right
uh he said there's a really nice pair of
sunglasses in there
all right
are you exciting for anything you just
want me to tack it all along with this
stuff uh I'd just pack it off I mean
you're you're drawing the case I'll let
you just attack
all right that works
can you give me your ID
is it in your wallet I I came to this
to the other officer earlier the Seymour
guy yeah
you have his ID
so see Marshall has it
what's that
I think back to me all right hold on I'm
back up I'll come get it
which pocket is it in right here this
one yeah
oh there it is
so rumors get started
[Laughter]
oh there it is
all right perfect
I'll put this one in there with this but
they're at the hospital's gonna need
your ID I know
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thank you
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that's one thing I was told you work
night shift you're gonna drink coffee
energy drinks or dip I don't do any of
them
yet
how long you been on two years
so I just I stick to my water and
and Gatorades inside
thank you for what you do
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thank you
very much
yeah do I need to check in
don't need to check in with you first or
just go
straight down yeah
sometimes yeah I guess not
check in
what do you do for fat guys on these
cups so I know my wrists aren't the
biggest
and
it is what it is
it's me
I've been in them uh believe it or not
I've had those things thrown on me so
much at training it hurts but it's just
they're not meant to be comfortable
once we get down in here I'll try and
make it a little bit better but
right
uh have you ever use your phone the
phone no yeah there's a phone or it's
like a there's like a five digit number
you just tell them that you're here they
were called
performing oh up there supposedly they
were okay yeah we just came out there
still okay
yeah they said they just called them for
me
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foreign
lately
well I know I have a Troopers are always
funny
you got the wrong one bye
too high for that
inside I feel like I'm sweating oh
I had a guy tell me one time he's
looking at me I asked me fatty allergies
were going to the jail said yeah I was
like what's that
seven alcohols and you just left the bar
said yeah I break out in handcuffs
he laid that one on me
he had me and the county guy going weird
well another good one they tried it on
the nurses at the hospital they didn't
laugh
they tried it on jail staff and they
didn't laugh
so is there someone else in there no
um
responded out to his call for you guys
I'm wondering what I think was they said
it was a Corporal what's his name
hear my father
basically holiday but yes
oh there's one more
sure yeah short
s
so Sade is s-h-a-w
there just like holiday
holidays it's an S okay and then
I don't know if I got in the car
that's just his first name okay
foreign
oh
you said 10 minutes
at 10 15 ish yeah
it's probably coming across something
that's gonna do that for us
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yeah the best coffee to
put in fact a copy but he said you
wanted to direct results
well it'll be everything's been in the
Attic of the case
I just don't want anything from
my Beach
is a boy working tonight blank
okay no
did you guys use your sometimes often
um we just got him back
for I guess a reason quite a bit so they
gave us two
okay
and you're getting one issue too so
really good one yeah or every District's
getting one oh it's a sample
I talked to Jeff and he was he told me
to get in touch with Blake I see how I
it's just he runs in two of them because
I think Blake is
there you know it's really that's what
Jeff said
yeah
it's
a girl from over here that
direct relation with Blake or no iron oh
you are ugly
you've uh
all right
okay
so we'll show a
result of one group one
of the blood draw
so have you ever heard like the point
zero eight of that split blooming
130 people generally one
one one three one zero eight
being illegal because
understand why
welfare do you license New York
exception
I think
I'm not even wearing a shirt because I
got one sock on it
really got my shoes on for anything down
here
hey so the results showed one pretty
100.60
for nothing
here okay that's what I thought
of course that's a lot of fun okay
appreciate it thank you
all right
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after the minutes
apartment
circulation okay
all right
walk out
this way
and we'll go back out the same way we
came in
I'm going appreciate it
you know what Screwed Up
what's that the Supreme Court has ruled
that police do not have a duty to
protect us unless you're in custody
yeah and that's one things I study on
school shootings yeah because it
happened at Parkland
when that SRO left parents sued the
school and the Federal Court ruled the
Supreme Court has ruled twice
police do not have a duty to protect
even kids as they're being murdered
but if you're in custody
then you have a
I technically have a legal right to be
protected by you yeah which is [ __ ] up
yeah
well I mean
I
can't really defend yourself right now
and no kind of mine but that's that's
the one thing Beyond I agree I do agree
and that's what you're saying it is
screwed of kids yeah and Goldie you had
almost 400
all the way from City all the way up to
Federal cops
sit around kids were being murdered yeah
no I agree with that
that's that's not how we're trained oh
no oh no and dude I am 100 pro blue we
do uh I get it but
there's no guarantee either yeah
we do active shooter training every year
and it's with
some rounds I mean you're getting better
it's paintballs but I trained with the
chief Abbott when he did too [ __ ]
hurt God
matter of fact I have a picture uh
O'Brien
um I had a face mask on he got me right
between the eyes
Ian McPherson McPherson was my hostage
yeah
and uh the end went down and as soon as
he went that it was obvious I mean they
had signals which I had no clue about I
had the face mask on I still have a
picture of it
Greg caught me right between the eyes
yeah that's good [ __ ] man
yeah
like I said that's a
we had I'd say probably a week's worth
of training at the Academy and then
40 hours that's what's important yeah
and then we do at least once a year
active shooter training and
it's fun you do with the SWAT team and
they're all
very good shots and very good at what
they do and you going in an academy
green and
yeah thank you though everything yeah
and they they like it they enjoy it
because they're like man these kids know
what they're doing as opposed to going
against guys that know what they're
doing training
but it's fine they
they'll sit there and just play with
each other and it's fun watching them
but yeah they're they're extremely good
at what they do oh yeah
extremely good that's it you're taking
classes up at milk in Edinburgh great
great group of guys I mean they're
law enforcement retired military yeah
and um
they have some great instructors up
there
well hats off to you guys
oh man
yeah that's something
205.
that's something I hope I never have to
be a part of but me too it's something
to train for
no moral human being ever wants to do
that
you pray to God it never happens but
they're a bad you know bad [ __ ]
people out there
and that's the sad part Moral Moral
people will hesitate that's what
that will give bad people the advantage
now trained to
not hesitate and to
basically just
all out go all out don't hesitate go for
it so you've been on two years yes sir
why
I've always wanted to do it yeah I grew
up around it my family's in law
enforcement uh my well my uncle was he
just retired of
36 or 37 years he had on local he was
local
uh his son's a county guy
and I just
always wanted to do it he'd take us to
school his wife was a teacher student
he'd take us to school every now and
then when my parents went to work and I
always thought the cool thing was
sitting in the back of a cop car getting
dropped off at school for some reason I
thought that was cool
so I was always wanted to do it
yeah
I followed my dream good for you
you can't explain I'd joined Marine
Corps when I was 17. yeah still in high
school years some people are wired for
it yeah and yeah those that aren't you
can't explain to them yeah no I I agree
it just it is
and I worked reserved for a couple years
yeah okay
and loved it
but other opportunities come up and I
took those and yeah
I I had I graduated with a buddy so we
went to preschool together
graduated high school together and
graduated State Police Academy together
and he's a former Marine so
still
I had quite a few friends
you can go to Marine Corps I've said
everybody should have to ride around
with a cop and wait tables
yeah before you're allowed to batch
shut your mouth yeah
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yeah knocking
probably changed some outlooks online
for a couple people
thanks for the double cuff
and I this would be those those hinge
cuffs don't really manipulate very well
and that's what I always use so I have
bad shoulders oh
they're still not that comfortable but
that is what it is
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take all the time he needs
I guess I'm in no hurry
I get your energy you can call your wife
and let him know where you're at
we were celebrating tonight
yeah
and then life throws your curveball
you from Indiana
yes I'm not South and yeah
but
I signed that
magic waiver stated I'd work anywhere in
the state of Indiana
so whatever they tell you to go yep
I don't regret it I want to change
anything about it so yeah
we're really good good group of guys and
it's a good area and
it's a good good District so
I'm not complaining
Chris what's his name Chris he's uh that
little guy
dive team
lochman yes yes um
he's pretty sure Sergeant over a dive to
you now
we screen printed T-shirts for him so
yeah
yeah I'm pretty sure he's in charge of
our dive team or maybe like the South
yeah
yeah he came and taught at the Academy
our swimming class
can I get that Walker in a little bit if
you want yeah I'm not gonna run away are
you
guys know
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night shift is ten and a half
ten and a half yeah this shift is eight
and a half
kind of spread our coverage a little bit
more for night shift
we're stretched so thin
I think anybody want to work anybody
won't work for us let's get a huge pay
raise yeah I don't think it's helping us
I wish but I don't I'm not so sure it's
helping
they still act like we're not getting
that many applicants you know what it is
nobody wants to work
yes
doctors nurses teachers you know cops
firemen volunteer fire departments ones
they're screwed yeah they're I mean we
at the state level they're doing
everything they can't try incentivize
people yeah and it's just it's
I don't know what's going to happen 10
years from now yeah nobody wants to work
everybody wants a [ __ ]
yeah yeah
I just I don't know it you stop
obviously you see I see a lot of people
deal with a lot of people
and
like most times deals you go to those
ask you know who your employer is and
stuff like this and like oh nothing no
one another self employed like
yeah
I mean
I just couldn't do it
um
no did you guys get registered
everything uh they said they were
calling for me
hello
I'm supervisor okay a supervisor so
normally when they're bringing uh you
guys to register only for the
only for the city okay let me call
registration and I'll let them know all
right I asked if they wanted me to they
just told me they come down here okay
well
he's been working on his Corvette at the
garage that he's had since January of
99. so he's just working away on that
she's going to share that with the
public I doubt it
I doubt it he won't even let me drive it
are you kidding
not hardly yeah you know that's all I
need I think that's all you guys need
too so all right let her know we'll be
back down there yeah okay
all right thank you
okay
it's hurry up and wait pretty much
what about a bathroom break
as soon as I get this done man I'll let
you go before we leave here okay
hopefully
it won't be long
time's on my side
oh here it is
I heard
nope
that's the reason why I went wherever
they put me
they say unless you have
married kids or a house
pretty well gonna go where they need you
so
I hope that enthusiasm stays with you
yeah
I said I like it I love it I won't
change anything
but obviously some days but that's with
every job
remember your oath
that's the thing
that's the thing that worries me about
where we're headed
and that's the one thing I've
we all take an oath to to uphold the
Constitution
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you made judges
prosecutors defense attorneys military
so you get to rotate on day shift are
you stuck on knife for a while nights
we do shift draw once a year
and
basically work that shift for your
entire year unless the hardship or
something changes but
pay your glutes up front yeah part of it
so but
like last this is the first night shift
I've worked in
probably two weeks with all the Indy 500
details you just
I can't work until 4 30 in the morning
then get up at six and go work 12 hours
at Indy so yeah that's brutal you gotta
work day shift to get your hours in and
then go to bed and then go work
the 500 so I've been
schedule's been all
different here lately so
you know Eric wondersee
can't say I do
contact us
Tans too much
chance too much
I first ran he was a
he was with uh pants
yeah yeah
it was a detail for Pence van Seymour
yeah
yeah didn't have anything I just started
talking today
and uh had him off the house for a
couple beers and some burgers afterwards
got done then he ends up being the
liaison at the State House
dude I mean bald headed you know it
works out yeah
I can't say I know him
there's so many people in this apartment
I don't even know
that's one thing about going to work in
these details like State Fair the 500.
see people I've never seen before just
I'll wear the same colors but I've never
seen you build your network yeah
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somewhat quick
waste of times I've had to deal with
them
Indiana has a seventh highest
look here it cost them
to me really yeah
it's horrible
yeah if we have a system of
not-for-profit hospitals which this is
in Columbus you look at it
that game consistent and it sucks and it
is
a guy stopped in Columbus he was
he was really drunk
but he had
felony horns out of Oregon or something
and
he was here illegally and took him and
they gret him they gave him all this
information you know to pay his his
health bills because he did a
check out on them and Joe Clinton did
the blood draw and everything
and they were showing them where he
could go to pay all his bills and all
this and I'm like
he's going doors like he's gonna be
extra diet than Oregon like probably as
soon as I can that's like
I'll give him the flyer but whether that
makes it the Morgan I don't know
I don't know it's just you can't be
fixed right now that's the sad part
others
how old are you 27.
your generation is going to have it
probably
worse
I don't doubt that
yeah I don't doubt that at all
hello
yes
all right let me get those off here iron
calls me if she's correct
all right go ahead look over your hands
oh
and there was only like two teeth
holding that on
them
foreign
the Box start filling that format for
you
can I go to the bathroom once we get
done with this blood draw I'll let you
go
okay
yep
all right turn right at this time for
you
I'm gonna double lock in that way they
don't tighten up on you anymore thank
you
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uh
as of now that's all we've got
like I say that's where we're going from
here
I'll let you uh make a phone book you
like if you want to make a phone call on
everyone on the way there that's
completely up to you it's going to have
a seat in there for me
that's completely if you use something I
always get that opportunity people
I try to be fair so I said I understand
if you don't want to make one either
come on I'd appreciate it
is there
okay okay
um go to bottom left four left there you
go top one
Michelle
hey it's me
I know I know okay I'm in I'm in a
police car I'm going to Jackson County
Jail
okay
um we're on speakerphone with the police
officer
okay
so
I don't know yet
okay do what so I think Jackson County I
think the way they operate is
obviously you have to be sober yeah and
then
they may have a bond and I do not know
Avail okay I'm 100 sure on uh they'll
give you more information on that I work
four different counties
but they may
they may have a bill I believe okay
it's probably gonna be
750 bucks or something like that
okay
um I will I be afforded a call when I
get there more than likely I don't know
how they work once once we get there you
remanded to them and you become their
custody uh that's why I was trying to
give people a call here because I don't
know how long it'll take them to give
you the opportunity okay we're leaving
we're leaving the hospital now we're
heading there
blood draw I'm fine
all right all right just let me know and
I'll be by the phone okay
thanks love you bye
I don't I don't do it when I have
someone in my car
makes sense
we do car fighting at the Academy and
it's not fun getting the crap beat out
of you while you're trying to flex your
seatbelt when you're restrict you know I
don't like it so
when I got somebody with me I I don't
wear it
so why don't you put me in the back seat
that's sop we don't put people in the
back seats really everybody State Police
we transport everybody in the front seat
keep a closer eye on them closer eye we
don't have cages uh
and here's the thing okay one you know
what I'm not gonna you don't have
anything to worry about I know you hear
that and they tell you yeah when they
say that you know in training be [ __ ]
watch out but
my background I'm not gonna [ __ ] you but
I I find this stuff intriguing because I
love taking training classes and stuff
you can learn from that
and I noticed that earlier you didn't
put a belt but that makes sense yeah
because now you're just contained and
wrapped up yeah that's
I just don't like it and obviously
I said we did like a full full day of
car fighting
I mean people are getting kicked out
windows like we were legit fighting
and uh
getting that seat off some worse thing
it's the worst trying to get that off
while they're trying to
Get Your Gun and you get somebody knows
what they're doing exactly like
Belkin that's about a weapon yeah
so that's
there's a few majority guys I know
kind of go off that same principle but
one less disadvantage I need on my side
it's good for you
now who has my guns
I'll give you I have a telephone for you
where the vehicle is taken uh and then
I'll also the guns will be stored at
Indiana State Police for sales District
42. so I'll have that address and phone
number I should be printed on your uh
take it as well
um the address and I just have a phone
number for the post as well that's one
of these will be logged in evidence
not and it's what's called evidence but
I have no hold on I have no use just I
can't leave them with the truck I'm glad
you know so
you know obviously I don't want those up
you know the GL is not going to take
them either
so you'll have to go to the post again
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those guns aren't stalled are they
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I actually had one stolen from me ninja
it was a it was a sick feeling
yeah
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yeah because I'm a
pretty much the absolutist when it comes
to Second Amendment but also with rides
become responsibilities yeah
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foreign
when you get prosecutors and judges
and they play catch and release
when
I don't know you guys but I mean I've
talked to enough cities and
you know County cops they know who the
troublemakers are
and you go arresting somebody's that you
know his [ __ ] multiple gun felonies
on them yeah and they're back on the
street and your resume like
yep
that's what
oh my God that makes me sick yeah
because too they
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the the anti-gun crowd uses that as they
mean it's oh look at all the crime yeah
it's the same [ __ ] two and two sad
yeah I'm getting all the crimes
you guys are using that to take away you
know the ability of the lawful person to
defend themselves and not just that
they're putting you guys lives at risk
and that's
[ __ ] it's just gone dang but
what do you do
other than call it out I mean yeah
you guys you go about your job you your
hands are tied you can't really say
something I mean now you're
first couple years you're going to see
[ __ ] which I'm sure you've already seen
that just
blood boil but
you eat it
and then
I'll get up here at the state house and
okay we make laws
but okay
mandatory laws sounds great
still take away that discretion of
somebody that just okay they're a good
person they did something stupid yeah do
you want to you want to run that
person's life you know
and that's why you avoid the mandatory
sentencing
but then when you get these prosecutors
and judges you know gun cops are one of
the most pled Downs as most crimes there
are
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but that's pretty OWI is only see
misdemeanor it's a lost level misbear
you can be yeah
is that what I got
so
so leaving the same
see why'd you know me on that one for
man
I didn't leave I was at the scene I was
I was walking to get help
so the scene is the guardrail on i-65.
that's the scene and then parking your
truck behind the building
and then walking away from that like
that's double but I mean it's only one
count but
I mean technically
this is going off caller since you won't
get you want to give us a statement on
the crash or not
so we have to do a crash report and as
far as I thought a deer ran out in front
of me okay how's that if that's what you
want to go with I mean I was coming up
11. okay
I thought I saw a deer
we're gonna see right there as a raccoon
okay
okay but I didn't want to okay dear
what but you did swerve
yeah
yeah but if deer's bigger man
okay so big deer you're coming up South
on 11. I was heading north on I was
heading south on 11th and it deer ran
out in front of you I thought I saw a
deer okay
obviously lost control thought I could
make it home yeah okay
that's where I was headed okay
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let's look at raccoon
spooked you a little bit you swerved
yeah picture of deer that wait big buck
and
I agree
that's why I need to shut up bro
I mean I I would have if I drove off an
embankment and tore up a guardrail and
essentially totaled my truck I probably
would have stopped
that's that's my thing
and then
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how come you parked behind
ability I didn't want to 11 where it
might be
caused an accident
okay
what about the parking lot in front of
them
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I did not want to get motor oil
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protected this way customers from coming
in
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my dad had a 70 Camaro and hit a raccoon
yeah and 70 Camaros I don't know if you
remember
recall they had the headlights but the
center Grille was all open yeah
it was a big thing too I mean [ __ ] I was
probably 10 or 12 oh he cussed he was so
pissed
and my dad had a 69 Camaro oh put her in
the ditch
oh Dad was pissed
yeah I think his dad was less than
pleased with him
that's one of those dad stories that you
never get the full story yeah you get
side stories that are multiple different
variations of stories
but you know what and that's the cool
thing the older you get eventually the
truth comes out yeah and that's those
are
those are days nights evenings whatever
you share around a good bottle of
bourbon or something you start laughing
and then your parents learn things about
you too yeah you know the [ __ ] that you
hit from them yep and that's when
everybody gets a good belly laugh and
that's those are good times
your band's still alive
good good for you man
you close to him still talk yeah talk to
him about four times a week awesome
my dad
my parents abortion is 16 and I I took
it out on my dad and then I learned the
truth afterwards yeah and we're as close
as you can get right now that's I had a
buddy that he's my best friend still is
he had his parents separated after he
went to college basically both kids get
to college
and he's kind of like he said he hated
his dad Hayes is dead my man
I don't know what's going on but
don't do that yeah I was like don't do
that man
and I think he's come to kind of realize
that he his argument was that his sister
was taking his dad's side so he felt
obligated to take his death his mom's
side
I'm like man just neither one of you
guys can take signs you know just
they're your parents yeah it's like
Nothing's Gonna Change you know
but I think he's kind of come to figure
out that
uh
worked out for him well the older you
get the more you realize [ __ ] like that
you realize what matters and what
doesn't matter
and this was obviously a [ __ ] up on my
part I own it
pay the price move on but
what year is your truck
it was nice
so you were driving on 11. I was all 11.
so
or South 74 1023 Jackson County
so
here we just charged with operating
vehicle intoxicated 0.08 first offense
and then operate one intoxicated
endangerment okay due to
the crash
driving away with your vehicle and four
on three rims
linking fluids headlights are busted
so you were endangering other people by
driving your vehicle like that and then
leaving the scene of a crash okay it's
gonna be first offense it's all
misdemeanors uh
so OWI basic 0.08 C misdemeanor leaving
scenes of B misdemeanor and then
endangering is a misdemeanor that's up
to the prosecutor if they decide
obviously I articulate provide for all
the cause for each charge if they
determine that you know
maybe you weren't endangering others
they can drop it all right so I I give
the prosecutor's option
thanks
it's about Torah
all right slice it this is just having
all all the charges on there okay
so this is a course address I'll give
you a court waiver as well
so this is not how the quote the Post
phone number so I'll give you the Post
phone number and their address so that
way you can locate your firearms
this is going to be your toe form
so this is where the vehicle was taken
to
you completely
yeah here's 31 reference anymore
over here
so when you get there
and if they need
the case number
so all your evidence will be they can
find out your name
or or were you talking that's a post or
yeah to get your Firearms back okay
you'll need to give them
you get the magazines and stuff with
them yep magazines all bullets and
firearms
so
that's the case number it'll be followed
under okay so I'll be stored under that
number provide that number then they
can't find it with that given this CAD
number Okay so
case number first captain in a second
you can give them either one so
this is a cad this is our cats this is
what all of our stuff's documented on we
can attach case number to it but our
evidence is
um stored under case numbers
so because if you store evidence we have
to draw a case
so
like I said evidence which would
probably use it that way but if they
can't just get in the cad or give them
your name whichever one
look at all these bugs up here
so this pink form is Jackson County
courts okay has their phone number
address everything on it so you can
contact them regarding your citations
all right uh if they email or if they
mail you anything it's going to go to
that 1114 address I'd follow up with
them immediately okay sure do you have
any questions regarding any of this I do
not okay all right
ID
okay
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am I missing anything else
all right
we'll walk over to that door
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foreign
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they got a couple questions I have to
ask you
and uh I
can't let you out Lucas was arrested
after Troopers conducted sobriety tests
his trial date is pending
Lucas was arrested after Troopers
conducted sobriety tests
his trial date is pending