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What made you upset today? >> Well, it's Christmas number one. >> So, how did it catch on fire? >> Just the heat of me being so pissed off. I'm a single mom trying to get through this freaking life. You already admitted to it on camera. I said I lit it on fire, but it wasn't intentional. Let's take a tour. Come on. >> On December 25th, 2024, officers responded after a curtain caught fire during a dispute involving a tenant upset about her lease not being renewed. She allegedly used a lighter on the curtains before her boyfriend put out the flames. >> So, I'm still trying to figure out what's going on. She extremely uncooperative. >> Who is them inside? >> Yes, female. >> Okay. >> Everything I'm asking. >> Where is that curtain? >> What's her name? >> Charlene. >> Hi. >> Yeah. You You are more than welcome to. I just got to talk to you though. Okay. >> Who is this to you? >> Who is she to you? That's your girlfriend. Are you going to come inside so I can talk to you? >> It's just me. I just want to talk. That's it. >> Open line. I'm just waiting for her to get in speech. >> Okay. Where is that bedroom lead from? >> Where is that? Can you show me inside? >> Is there any weapons? >> No weapons. >> You said what was her name again? >> What was her name again? >> Charlene. Charlene. >> T A R. >> And there's no weapons. >> No weapon. >> I think there are knives. They're just cooking knives with no fire arms. The only weapon she has. >> Hey, Charlene. >> Hey, Charlene. >> I just want to talk to you. It's just me. >> I I hear you, but at the same time, obviously, the fire department came out, so I just want to speak with you on what's going on and get your side. >> No fire in here. There's no >> There's no emergency. There is no fire. >> I'm inside the apartment. >> I just want to speak with you though cuz I just want to hear your side of the story. >> Actually, I don't have to explain anything to you. >> But listen, >> your wish is not granted. Have them taken off of the property. >> But listen, if I only listen to his side, you're not >> So what is it that you think you are capable of doing? Putting like He just threatened. HE JUST THREATENED. >> OKAY. SO, TELL ME BECAUSE he didn't say that. He didn't say that part. >> WELL, I'M LETTING YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW. I'M CONTINUALLY TALKING. He just threatened to >> Right. >> Right. HOW HOW YOU DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT. YOU DON'T KNOW ME LIKE THAT. LIKE, you can't go around telling me, >> right? >> Because it's not your >> It's not your right. You cannot do that. You can't. >> You can't. >> So, what's what's triggered you today? What made you upset today? Well, it's Christmas number one. >> I know. And I'm here. >> Merry Christmas. >> Merry Christmas. So, what's got you upset today? >> Well, that would be my landlord who works downstairs. His name is Steven Oser. He's an attorney. >> Okay. [snorts] >> And um he sent me this really long lovely and I have not even given it a chance to read that I will not be able to renew my lease after 2 years. >> Okay. Okay. >> He The guy upstairs, Sean Duchan Dan, >> has been in my apartment when I'm not here. >> Okay. >> I've had to change the locks. You should see that I don't have a doorbell. I don't have a a a light on my porch. >> Okay. >> Okay. I don't have a Come on. Get up here. Let's see it. >> Sure. >> Okay. So, obviously there's some stuff that needs to be fixed. Yeah. >> Yeah. But he won't fix it. >> So, you know what you got to do? >> I will not do it. What? go down to and get illegal aid or try to go get something for >> Yeah. The civil the civil process >> it is not that the civil process is a bunch of garbage. You can't >> It's not easy. You're absolutely right. >> That I deal with every single day and her ex or my ex-husband, sorry. Look at the hole in my ceiling. >> I just want that fixed. >> Mhm. >> And he won't fix it. >> I got you. >> He won't fix it. >> Okay. >> And threatens to take me court every single month. >> Okay. >> Without pay. Okay. >> Hello. >> That's my dog. >> Is he friendly? >> She >> She I apologize. You said that's my dog. There wasn't any type of pronoun. >> I apologize earlier. >> Um her name is Froggy and she's over friendly. >> Okay. >> She's friendly. >> Okay. >> Super sweet. >> All right. So, the reason I were here obviously is cuz there was a curtain that was on fire. Okay. Did you light that on fire? >> Nope. And >> you did not. Nope. >> So, how did it catch on fire? Just the heat of me being so pissed off. >> Okay. >> All right. So, let's let's be honest. I'll break it down for you. I did. I did. Mike's ex-husband would be right in line with that, but not today. I just went a mask this morning, >> okay? >> You know, no, I don't. I'm not trying to be sarcastic with you and facitious. It is Christmas day and I got a message. I got a message from my landlord. Very pleasant. That's great. Thank you so much for sending me that and setting me off. So, I'm having a moment. >> Okay. That that moment went a little heavy is the issue. That's why we're here. >> YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS HEAVY MOMENT. >> YOU'RE you're entitled to your you're entitled to your feelings. >> You are want to take me to jail. >> Mhm. >> You have to find something more dignified, more solid and hard. >> I don't >> I'm a single mom trying to get through this freaking life. >> I got you. >> Pay bills. >> Uh-huh. Yeah. >> And I got a scum ass landlord. [snorts] >> Okay. >> So, you think that me being taken within your custody or anywhere else is actually going to change that afterward? >> It probably will. And that's why you need to probably get some help. Are you willing to get that voluntary? Are you willing to get that voluntarily? >> Oh, Lord have mercy. Have I not contacted the everybody? >> I'm going to be really raw and honest with you so we don't we don't waste each other's time. Okay. So, there's two options here. You're either going to go voluntarily to the hospital. >> Okay. Or we are going to have to take you and I will arrest you and I will arrest you for arson. You intentionally lit something on fire. Yes, ma'am. >> You're going to do that? >> I can and I have the right to do that. I know that you can. >> I don't want but I don't want to do that cuz at the end of the day, you're obviously having a tough moment. You're going through a lot of emotional things. >> Right now, a hospital is not something that I >> But those are your two options. Well, >> so it's either jail or the hospital. >> Let me call Teddy Black, my attorney. Call Teddy because I'm not sure if I want to go to jail. >> I'm not arrested yet. So, I have my phone and I haven't touched you. I haven't come near and I haven't either cuz I was listening to what you had to say. But I also don't want to waste each other's time here. Neither do I. >> So, when it comes down to it, >> I need I I'm not going to give you an option if you can't give me an answer right now. [snorts] >> Okay? >> And I and I'll make a determination. We'll we'll go with jail. We'll go with arson. >> You want to do arson on me? >> We We could do that and we could drop you off at the at the jail if that's where you want to spend Christmas. >> It's no better than here. I don't >> I think the hospital would be the best choice for you to be honest. >> Is that what you think? >> I think so. You would still be able to have your meal. You'd still be able to to make phone calls if needed. Okay, >> Teddy. >> But that's where we're at. >> I'm going to jail. >> It's important. It's very important. Um, I'm in my apartment and John Hart has called the police on me because he wouldn't leave. He won't leave my porch. He never leaves. He won't stay in the house. I've lost it a little bit because it's Christmas day and I have three professional police officers, I think, sergeant or >> yes, >> in my in my living room asking me to make a decision if I want to go to jail. So, I'm going to take the ladder and I'm going to go to jail and you're going to come get me out. >> Okay. >> Then that that's that. >> Okay. >> Okay. Bye. I mean, if that's how you feel, >> listen, but I want YOU TO VOLUNTARILY. >> EVERYBODY needs mental health assistance. >> Listen, if not 99% of people are on some sort of medication, they need mental health assistance. So, you encouraging me on that does not help the situation because when you try to make the appointment, when you try to argue with your ex-husband and your mom and everything else, that doesn't give you mental assistance. you think and you feel so strongly about it, why don't you do it for me other than putting me in a 4x6 jail cell for the next >> 11 12 hours. >> So, I'm trying to let you guys talk about it and work it through it. You mean but right now we're not getting anywhere, right? So, the reason we're not >> I haven't done anything. >> You cannot arrest me. I haven't. >> Yes, I can. Ma'am, >> for what? >> For your arson. You intentionally lit >> No, I didn't. >> Something on fire. >> That is not what happened. >> You already admitted to it on camera. I said I lit it on fire, but it wasn't intentional. >> So, do me a favor. Turn around. We'll take your phone with you. Turn around. >> Hold on. >> I don't want to put hands on you. We force you to do it. So, I'm I'm asking you to do it. Nicely, respectfully. >> So, please. >> So, I want to know where I'm going and how long you think. >> Western Tidewater Regional Jail off of Godwin Boulevard. That's where we're going. Okay. From there, I can't tell you how long you're going to be there. Okay. Probably Probably till tomorrow morning. Today is a holiday. No, it's Christmas Day. >> I know. And I don't want to >> I don't need you to remind me that it's Christmas Day. >> Okay. All right. So, turn around. >> I'm getting a coat first because I know well a jail cell's cold as hell. >> Okay. I can grab the coat for you, but right now I can't have you put it on. I could put it over I could put it over your shoulders. So, turn around before we we go hands on. >> It's in that It's in that closet. Turn around. >> Turn around. >> You have to help me. >> I have to >> be careful. The stuff's here. Don't trip. Turn around for me. Turn around for me. Put your hands behind your back. >> He's going to place handcuffs on you. >> Okay. >> You can put your hands together like you're praying. Like this. So that way like you're praying. Like that. >> I want my phone, please. >> Sure. >> And um um my coat. >> I'm going to search your person. Do you have anything that's going to stick or poke me? >> No, ma'am. Okay. >> Nothing. >> I got nothing. >> Wait a second. Wait a second. >> There's nothing on me. >> I weigh 115 lbs. >> Yes, ma'am. >> There's nothing in me or on me. Okay. >> Can you hold the Yeah, the dog for a second. >> Me dog. It's she and she's got to go on her kennel or she's going to pamp on my carpet. Who's going to take care of her? Well, you're assisting. >> Would you like to take these $20 with you? >> Um, no. Because how am I going to spend that in a >> Would you like to leave it here then? I'm asking you a question. Um, so I know what I'm doing. >> How am I GOING TO HOW WHAT AM I GOING TO do with Do you want it with you or not? Simple question. Yes or no? >> No. Because then it has to I'm going to leave your $20. You want your phone? Correct. I do. And I want that bag right there. And I want a coat and a sweatshirt. And >> you said it's in there. >> Well, that's a closet. >> Is it Is it in there? >> Yes, it is. Because I'm pretty sure Jill is freezing. >> Actually, that's not it. You're going to have to go to my bedroom. Come on. Let's take a tour. Come on. Let's go. Sorry, my bedroom's a mess. That's one room. This is the other that I keep pretty clean. >> Where's the kennel at? >> If you look around, you'll find it right there. >> Hey, Parker. >> Yes, ma'am. If you want to come bring the uh the dog in here and put in the kennels >> right here. >> That white North Face jacket. >> Yeah. Let me have that. >> Throw your shoulders. Okay. >> On top of that, there's a couple other things that I want to take. This is it. The jacket and your purse and your phone. Like you >> can you fix my pants at least. You're the one who pulled the freaking pocket >> to make sure that there was nothing in it. That's how I do it. >> Okay. Well, then why didn't you put it back in? It's kind of like >> I'm being very polite. You don't wash your hands and you don't >> I'm being very polite to you. >> You're taking me to jail. I don't know if this is actually called being polite and I need a minute. I need a second. Please. >> Please. >> We're going to go downstairs. Okay. >> Her name is Frog and she's 3 years old. >> Where is the curtain? >> It wasn't It was an accident. >> Okay. That's fine. Where is it at? >> So, >> it's out. The water's on it. Listen to me. I'm not Two more questions for that. >> And this is the thing. These are super tidy. >> Where do you want me to go? >> Right over here to the left. >> Why don't you just pick me up? >> Okay. >> You know, it's Christmas Day. It would be nice if you had a little courtesy and just pick a lady up. >> No, I'm I'm okay. >> Do you have my bag? >> What about my vape or cigarettes? Can I have a cigarette before I go to jail? Can I have Can I have a bag before I go to jail? Don't split the pole. It's bad luck. This way. >> Don't split the pole. It's bad. >> We'll go behind her. How about that? >> So, she intentionally lit the curtain on fire inside the home. >> Nice paper plate. City of Suffach really keeps their cars clean. >> We do. We try to. >> Not really because you got a paper plate in there where you >> take this off right now cuz he has to buckle you and I'll put it back on and give it to you over there. Okay. >> All right. >> Yep. Just have a seat. >> Ouch. Now, if these were a little looser, they would be a little bit more comfortable. >> Yes, sir. What was your question? >> Um, yeah. I didn't mean to have her charged with anything. She let >> she's whether you want to or not, it's it's going to happen. She intentionally lit something on fire. >> Okay. She committed a crime. >> Did she say that to you? >> She admitted it. >> Yeah. >> So, right now, she's in custody for for arson. >> You understand? I should I was worried about her mental health. >> I got you. But she committed the crime. She didn't want to hurt anyone other than just >> felony, right? >> Huh? >> Felony. >> That's it's I I'm I'm honestly I don't know if it's >> Is it a misdemeanor? lost. >> I think it's I'm pretty positive it's based off the amount of damage. Yeah, I'm pretty I'm pretty sure there's a threshold amount, but uh fire marshals are here, so they're going to take over. So, we took her into custody and then we're going to pass him over and it's going to be in fire's hands at that point. >> Is he here? >> He is. Yeah. And then we're waiting for the second one to come through. But so, he'll he'll be here in a minute to take pictures and do his thing. She was charged with attempted arson and making fire related threats.
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