stop give me the other hand I'm trans don't be taking pictures of me in my car you're playing me like I'm stupid that little baby right there is being taken away where are you staying in at the woods I want on May 25th 2024 officers responded to a store following a report of shoplifters who were roaming the store for 6 hours before being caught I'm in the handicap bro go get the other one I got another one running stop right there on the ground get on the ground I didn't do nothing on the ground yes ma'am I didn't do nothing on the ground didn't do on the ground I didn't do nothing sit out of the ground right now cross on the ground I didn't do nothing right here right here stop dude put it down thank you man roll over on your stomach yes sir roll on your stomach put your hands behind your back I'm trans give me the other hand give me the other hand I'm trans I'm biologically what he says dude do what he says I am sorry you have illegal on your person t with you stay right there dude just his backpack yeah that's his are our shoes good job man thank you thank you roll over on your back I help you I help you roll sit up now sit up sit up I got a lower back problem sit up get a breather man all right all right what's your name you have an ID in there no no ID driver's license all right what's your first name Kellen spell it uh k e l l e n good phone number for you uh I really have one you have no cell phone that's all right where are you staying at now um homel just around here in the woods yes sir okay over there by Toledo and Collingswood you know bro this is my backyard I know this like the back of my hand yeah sir all right listen take a deep breath all right we're going to walk over to my car having you can sit down get you to get you some water if you want all right go not necessarily no we got to figure out what's going on all right okay gra my I I'll get all that stuff for you all right I ain't going to leave it all right come with me this way in the parking lot down right I wasn't in this know you just sit right here right here don't talk to each other did you hear I said don't did you hear what I said sit down and don't talk you put your down all three Re put her just Pat her down really fast actually you get a buff them and pet you down and put her in the back of my patrol car don't get any of your purses you come over here and sit right here so you don't get my back that's my son okay we watch sit right here so you can hear him okay just sit right hey I don't don't say anything traffic light going to be down did you listen to me nobody is talking right now sit down and be quiet yes ma'am I'm sorry yes ma'am yeah I don't want your thank you're bacon in the sun we're here to we're here to be civil but we got to do our job absolutely sir baby's okay so that's a good do me a favor come right over here don't be taking pictures of me in my car hey hey hey don't touch me don't touch me 100% space I'm allowed to take your picture that would be battery ma'am don't take this is what's going to happen you end up in trouble dcf's going to take that baby is that what you want we're trying to accommodate you he's allowed to do that you're in the middle of a couple of felony investigations and could be an accomplice do you understand so don't get in attitude with us or you'll end up in handcuffs in the back of a car too is that what you want so we're not being asses you're sitting there next to your baby you're going to treat us with us with respect too do you understand can you do me a favor can you go start getting the video come with an am I don't want you talking to him put your phone down hey friend how are you I'm all right you got buddies you got buddies out the parking lot too then huh going for buddies yeah acquaintances business friends right he there a still pretty strong word no I wouldn't say so I wouldn't say so no where's your where's your uh the the the Hat dude that cool hat in my backpack oh yeah back my back seat here he walked downar that was last week I never filed on it though okay all right guys we're just sifting through all this and trying to get everybody as clear as soon as possible you're fine okay you're fine you were sitting in the passenger side okay now I was in the middle I mean in the backside you never were in the store we just pulled up we legit how come you pulled up here and not over in parles I don't know we just supposed to give somebody a [ __ ] ride and address who was driving why' you pick right here baby to park up front it is hot there's some other parking spaces with shade closer to the store right and then you were in here too we're doing an investigation on you because you were in here last week and stole something so your cooperation is probably going to dictate where you go do you understand understand you saw the pictures just as clear as I did and it's got you on video Tak do you have a criminal history no look at me never so there are some options that can come from that however that's going to be dependent on your cooperation you understand what was your name bro John J1 s m u t n e y date of birth is 1101 2000 don't get so CL what's a middle initial John F Frank my grandfather okay are you staying with Isabella or where you I stay at full 4 okay I'm actually uh Transit get this situated make it as easy as possible it's not something you want to go through no I'm certainly not my kid like I literally just gave somebody a ride and one second one second okay now I can understand as a father my daughter just turned so it's that's why I'm like don't hang out with stupid people like but we didn't know they were doing doing this dumb stuff so I can see why you're upset with them and then she's upset I fully get it's a whole circle here of everyone being upset with each other it's a whole miscommunication with their people is what it is I got you okay and I'm like bro I don't want to get my kid taken away and then somebody comes running out and then police and I'm like are you kidding me bro didn't I just say like okay I I I completely understand that cuz that's he's as soon as I seen her running and she smacked the carart into my car I'm like bro don't get in my car get out my car get out get out is this your car yeah it's my car that's why I was like don't get in my car I got you you call if you need me just I'm Nick all right I'm not Deputy re I'm just a human being all righty I'm going to read you a card okay you also have the right stop answer anytime so you talk to a lawyer do you understand he's right to explain to you yes sir you feeling okay yeah I was just adjusting my my arms you got some friends obviously right I knew you had some friends 110% and uh as soon as we go to leave right your friends say hey bro we're good we're good we're good we're good and then uh here you are so uh I will from me to you firm handshake you as you know just like be real with me so I don't have to play these games cuz we kind of already know what's going on yeah what's what from your perspective what what are we doing today this is silly we are both uh homeless okay and uh we found it uh you know getting people closed for it yeah mation okay so you have two people that pay you to go into a store and grab clothes correct well not two people someone though right uh not those but someone above them pays you say like somebody that like Works an actual job well I would say he's the person who orchestrates the plan is essentially I was actually kind of okay so you working straight the plan what's the plan it wasn't even like really a plan it just oh stop come on you've been in here since 9:30 I know it was not honestly I let me ask you a Qui question the headphone in your ear right yeah is that your buddy in the parking lot telling you what's up I swear to God I swear to God it is not as like it is not as like so how did you know we were outside I didn't oh you didn't literally did not I take 6 hours of leave uh we literally have been just waiting for a ride they honestly have nothing to do with what we were doing I was waiting for them to come to pick us up they really did not know what was coming out to him it's not as well orchestrated and thought out as you think it is it's not well maybe you're not part of the groups that we deal with them but right no I is that your spouse that you were in the store with a friend good friend the female with the neck tattoos and comp okay it's complicated would you call a friend at least yes okay um did you and your friend talk about coming in here and stealing before you came in here no we were coming down here to get a ride cuz uh I could be caught in on demand from Northport is area where we were staying in the woods and we caught an on demand to like the Fort Charlotte border walked an hour down here uh to get Wi-Fi to get a hold of somebody to give us a ride and like K cor we literally just got stranded out here but you had a plan to come in here deal not a plan to come in here so no so what was explain it to me what is it um we came down here because I had honestly in Alpha rites I had bought my mom jewelry for Mother's Day she told me to go and she didn't want it okay so I brought it back down here okay where's down here okay like that was legitimate the bracelet that's in my backpack like I I bought why didn't you make any attempts to return any items I that store doesn't make sense I just don't have an ID they W let me return it for store merchandise without an idea MH and then we just were wandering around like we did not have to Mastermind plan to come in here and like Rob where's all the stuff you guys took um I literally have got something shoved in your pants well like there's two shirts we figured well there's just two shirts and then a shirt in my back okay and that's it you typically layer that's what you do when you still right I'm homeless I understand but I you don't know who I am but I Know Who You Are you typically you typically put multiple pairs of clothes on when you steal right no stop I don't have multiple pairs of clothes I'm so you typically take multiple pairs no that's actually a stolen shirt which one this one uh well those obviously but is this a stolen shirt that's two shirts yeah okay these so these are two stolen shirts right yes sir so okay these are layered I tried to I tried wait wait oh my God and then would you say this unstolen too right yeah okay now hear me out when we style our elv before we go out and we want to look nice right when you add multiple pairs of clothing on would you call that layering yeah but I didn't come in your layer I get it I know that so your typical thing is you layer your clothing and today you layered your clothing again F you right okay it's all good way or another um okay so this one's uh not yours either right is this one yours yes oh yeah you came in the black shirt with and the shirt and the bunny shirt these are your shoes too that you came and the bunny shirt and the hat yeah oh my God the Hat with the bunny shirt in the backpack that is why you leave the backpack by the door when when you got in the store you left it cuz I didn't I really was genuinely not planning on stealing and I know that they get nervous when people walk around their stores with a backpack okay seriously so if you didn't genuinely plan on stealing why were you in the store for 6 and 1/2 hours we literally got stranded why were you in the fitting room for 2 hours I was talking I was halfway hiding and then halfway talking to my sister why were you hiding from in her shopping and her a okay so if she already said what's going on to my friends down the road you know um I don't want to look at you as a liar cuz the next time I open the door I might change up you know but you've been pretty straightforward but yeah like there was no Mastermind plan here you didn't come in here with an intent to steal I came in here with the intent to return that bracelet and then what when they told me that I couldn't because I did not have my identification another B sheet I was like well I went and told her they're like I can't return it you mean to get the gift card mean yeah so that so we like like okay well we might as well walk around and look around a little bit fine and then I don't know what you mean you got to explain um so it correct me if I'm wrong you didn't have money so instead of I did there's money in my wallet so why did you what when did you come up with the plan to start layering your clothing and steal cuz this shows a plan yeah the last like like when I went into the fitting room if you can look at camera's maybe about halfway into trying on the clothing are these two of the same shirt no they're different and they're like that cuz I tried tried them on stop it no I tried them on it and then I them over yeah yeah yeah but that's come on stop I've been here longer day stop it I get it but it was It's upsetting me I'm sorry it's not it was not a plan well it doesn't have to be a plan it doesn't have to be like a Grand Theft Auto you know you planted on the wall type of heist thing right I'm not saying it's that but you're kind of yeah no you're kind of making me uh frustrated with you because you're playing me like I'm stupid no no I apologize that was intentional intentional once I made a decision to Ste it yes and that was in the fitting room correct okay is it reasonable that you had over $400 worth of stuff in your C if you only have $40 before you go in the fitting room is it reasonable that you have two of the same shirts of multiple different types of shirts in your cart before you go in the fitting room with only $40 different sizes hold on I is it reasonable honestly probably not no because it's suspicious yes AB who are you going to sell these clothes to a you already know you're hold now what are you doing there's a couple people that like I they will buy clothes off me like not I understand that yeah I know where are they at there's one in Kick World okay and there's one that doesn't really have a central location those people are you okay with being cooperative you know and talking you can keep your name at some things refence to us finding you know cuz this someone is using you to do this for themselves oh so like there's like a thing going on there LGE in this County yeah no I'm not a part of that I swear so you're just a part of somebody ADV ADV clothes from here I'm from Pennsylvania I've only been down here for like a year most of it I'm not part of like some crazy I've been living out but you go to the store well actually you stoen from here before right if I ask you a question I typically know the answer for you well yeah no no fair I'm just tring remember but you stolen from this store before this specific store yeah one time a little while ago a little while it was not recently but yeah a while all righty and you went to the same guy to sell the clothes no okay I swear how much clothes did you plan on taking today that whole cart no I mean look you're you're on a good streak right I'm on board with it right I know when you're deceptive um you're you're you're super cool right you just we're like right on the edge of being like cooler but we're not look we got you like right the game's over like cat and mouse is over like literally like we got this is over with I know I know know how did you know when to leave the story you just decided on your own right now to leave you didn't know we were I was out here have no idea for real I'm so serious you listening to music then here Ser you can I can bring up those two other people that are detained have nothing to do with this they were literally coming to pick us up uh friends that I met through my lady and he had off are you right driving him down there okay he had offered to let us stay at his place for I don't mean to interrupt you don't forget he has a stolen shirt on under the black one and this is two stolen shirts in my backpack there is a black Zip but bag yeah um that has Amia in there um so how much we look you do mess sometimes or what I come on we're so close just be truthful we I can come on you're like when I do find when I do I say I well we're going to find it what is it we're not sketched out I don't want to there are a couple syringes are they loaded uh yeah I don't you got to think about it I no no I literally not today there's one that does not so please be careful I don't have anything but like yeah they're all in one Central hey besides the rigs dude you got any or um I don't know how do you want me to identify it if you sorry I don't mean to interrupt you it's okay um I'm trans male so I'm going from female to male okay so dude is that good yeah all right is there actually like meth in here besides the syringes or what no okay cuz we're going to take the whole thing I know oh I know I know I know it's you have anything in honor around you it'll be a third degree felony if we start moving around no okay I don't want no smoke with that yeah oh my god I've been charlot County are you saying you guys had a subliminal conversation that led to you know hey let's steal is that what you're alluding to it was like in theory like a look kind of thing and it was like yeah not a spoken thing but like yeah it was like so is it reasonable to say that you and her agreed to to steal I would say I did I can admit to that and she did too I can't I cannot say she did not say it all L out to me you guys had a conversation about struggling with money and you guys decided you know let's test look central7 no it was like we were frustrated and she was like what are we going to do is like I don't know then what and we stopped talking for a while and my sister really did go and she she's not having a good day obviously so if I told you there was a secret shopper that heard the entire conversation would would this be the exact same thing that happened correct he would hear a phone call but would he hear some non-verbal cool look or would would there would would there have been like a you guys saying yeah we know let's just take it thing no they they will not be able so how did she know to take it you guys said the times are rough and that's it I think we if anything like we were just focusing on how shitty things have been and I guess had the same mentality I don't know I can just tell you where I was from like I knew that like you were about to be hungry and I don't want her to act go did you tell her you were going to start stealing things no I did not tell her anything because I did not want to place her in a position where she is there reasonable to say you guys were in the same fitting room together not in the same room no okay this is what's going to happen in about 2 seconds I'm my t-shirt you're going to go in handcuffs and go listen to me listen to me you're going to go in handcuffs for multiple things what you're going to have the theft you're going to have L to us and everything else I don't have time for this I've wasted so much of my time watching you and your friends and we're tired of getting it Char if you give us a false name you are going to be charged with it period the end that's it what is your freaking name give it to him and quit playing games why why would you provide a false name I'm on I so you're going to make it worse giving a false name give it tys please I'm working with where are you Ross Ross your middle name Frank what's your date of birth 1111 what's your last four of your Social uh that I didn't lie I really don't know that that I would I promise you like I'm Shing 2 what's in your pockets Tyler being on probation dude like what did you think was going to happen like we were just going to let you go without right now sorry came off now you got to get away from the lifestyle dude that's why you're on probation to get can we do something work this is all on camera dude everything everything everything you done is on this is this is your choice brother Sor came and the problem is you weren't in here stealing last week on video last week you're on video stealing here Lee County might not catch it but we're serious up here dude I he you there's another one all right you're just going to take a seat in my car do you understand you were in here last week you're here with people stealing again and you're giving a false name what you got that's a crime within itself you got you got got you got to hear from my point of view please sir I'm from out of County I just I honestly I've been doing okay but if you gave a right name you probably would have left with nothing can can we work some so let me talk to my Corporal but go ahead and get the cigarette out I'll be right with you let me get the AC on have you seen I've been chill with you the whole time please I'll do Tyler just give me a second please how come you weren't driving the gas no that's on my messenger up so I let him drive the rest of the way he said we just going down the road and then when I seen that girl coming I'm like she better not be doing what I think doing and then she slammed the button into my door anded to get my car do not get my car get out my car get out my car get out my car and then here come the police I'm like are y'all kidding me bro give and I'm pissed cuz that boy is like my little brother I'm known him since he was N9 years old and I said don't do anything stupid if I'm gonna come to see you I haven't seen him in a long time and I said we're going to go we're going to do whatever he said he was supposed to go to a meeting so I'm like okay they didn't tell me we're coming to Port Charlotte until we started driving up here I'm like where the going he's like poort Charlotte I'm like are you kidding me bro we were literally on the way here already we're like halfway here and he told us what gas where were you what gas station did you take your pills at um still do it what was that one right down the road we just want to validate story that they just got Ro they got a message to come get I think it was a BP or something so you took your P your vitamins here and they got set for this either way he's going to go for next week last week so and fall I have my meds in my bag okay but if how did you not know you were coming to Port Charlotte if he only started driving after you took your medicine which was here in Port Charlotte so you had to drive from for I mean at some point you had to realize I'm leaving Fort Meyers now I'm in a BP so that story doesn't make sense well I they when I picked him up in Cape Coral he didn't say what we were doing he said they were going to a meeting those two were going to a meeting and then when we got here he's like oh we're actually not going to a meeting the meeting is back in Fort Myers and I'm like why is it meeting back in Fort Meers when that's not what you said and he said well we have to be back in for my by 3:45 go to a meeting I'm like have either of you been arrested for retail theft before no have you ever been arrested at all yeah yeah when was the last time you got arrested oh God I'm well I'm onr you because I got to tell you I I 100% believe that you knew that they were steing to come pick you up like I've been doing this for a long time so it doesn't make sense cuz you would and come all the way over here see somebody coming out staying that constant thing I have literally been sitting here for about 6 hours 4 hours is that falling a bit in there do you know well I they've been in there since night yeah so it doesn't make sense either way it doesn't really either way it doesn't really matter at this point right because here you two are right however you have a history of stealing no I don't retail theft no I don't what are you on probation for uh drug charg they go hand in hand okay I've never I've never stolen drug stealing hanging out with them right 100% you know stealing he doesn't even live here and he got he was here last week stealing from the same store oh I didn't know that I was in rehab all when did you get out of rehab recently uh Tuesday I was in Tampa so you're making a really really bad choice getting out of rehab if you went to rehab was it court ordered or on your own no on my own so if you come out of rehab and you made a conscious choice that means you wanted a life change so you're coming back over here and you're hanging out with people with stuff stealing stuff what do you think is going to happen right you had a child and I was supposed to go let somebody not licensed drive your vehicle who who has a who has a controlled substance so we could who has a controlled substance are you kidding me I I don't think that you're Mary Poppins and didn't know that there was something cuz it doesn't make sense however I know if I put if I handcuff you cuz you all could go for accomplice that little baby right there is being taken away into DCF care ma we really did that's why I told Tyler this is why I'm not going to hang out with you and he said I'm not doing anything stupid so did he do something stupid yeah clearly yeah but he said when I picked him up I'm not doing anything stupid I swear to God whose idea was it for all this mine is that your boyfriend good friend yeah who girlfriend I don't I haven't been over there so I don't know wife do you know that person is my they didn't know they didn't know nothing I swear to God oh he absolutely knew no they did not know what were you doing in there for 6 hours why were you in there for so long and you don't even live here how old are you 19 are you homeless yeah where are you staying in at the woods in Charlotte County mhm carpet Trail we at in the woods which Woods Hi how are you I haven't met you yet can you do me a big favor can you stop kicking the window I'm not kicking the window sit back so you can put your seat belt on can I put the seat belt on you is that okay and you also have the right stop answer anytime until you talk to a lawyer do you understand he's right to explain to you is that a yes okay all right um it's hot out here huh did you I heard you ran out the store did you run why on Earth would you do that it's a lot of energy okay um sex hours in the store is that your idea or his idea mine why do you want to wait so long so we're a part of the variable um obviously people do something wrong or we exist you can't bault us for existing okay um what what exactly is going on to you between okay this was all me he had nothing to really do with it he was just there he ain't really had nothing to do with it so why was it all you what do you mean that it was my did you have like an idea before you came in the store then no okay so when did the idea show up I don't know okay well he said a lot of things I don't know what he said I don't know so it was your idea okay you guys done this before no he never done this before what is it he's never done this before me know okay all righty what made you finally leave the store outside how' you know give me a pro tip why how you know oh come on did it feel weird is that what you knew so how did you just know I knew was my time what is it I knew it was my time jail it's not good ja's not a good thing you ready we got to switch cars for you which car should you going to hey you promise we're just going to walk right yes I'm not going all right so at what point did you intend on stealing to I don't know I don't I want to shut up never so she's The Mastermind she bosses it no bro n no she already knew what I was going to say huh I was going to talk about the the thing on the hood of the car I was like you know that's no no no the thing thing the embarrassing thing what thing there's a lot there's a lot of things on the hood of the car no The Red Shoes she put on around the hood of the car r not the red Sho what thing are we talking about if you don't know I'm just I have no idea there's a lot of things on the hood of the car I know but it was probably a thing that you would probably GLE a little bit when you saw it I'm just like a balloon animal no strap not done okay I'm sorry I'm sorry you'll probably see it y'll be laughing about it sho I'm serious you'll be laughing about it later we guys go JC Rachel Bigalow was charged with possession of anti-shoplifting control countermeasure Grand Theft property more than $750 but less than $500 and resisting Leo or Merchant during retail theft