does not allow to drink when she has him. >> You're not able to control your actions, so I'm going to control them for you. Okay? >> But I'm the one that raised him. I would never hurt my child. >> There's video of it. >> What you might have seen is untrue. >> We don't grab the child by the arm. >> That's my baby. >> Stretch it out like it's a chicken. On November 11th, 2024, officers responded to the front of the sheriff's office following a report of an intoxicated woman harassing her ex-husband during a child exchange. >> Let go of >> she needs to be checked for alcohol. >> His court ordered that she is not allowed to drink when she has >> I didn't do anything. Let's make sure you're okay. Are you all okay? >> Yeah. Yeah, they're okay. >> All right. You own the truck with me. >> Your actions are putting that child in. It sure does. >> If you're operating a motor vehicle wanting to take your >> 785, >> is this the kids? cannot control yourself. You stand right here now. You stay right there and you're going to walk off again. >> Why are you yelling at me? >> Because you're you're not able to control your actions. So, I'm going to control them for you. Okay. >> But that's cuz I wanted my son. >> That is not how we do things in America. You don't grab him, drag him, cause him to almost fall off this curb with that child in his hands. That is endangerment to that child. >> That's my baby. Listen, I got a child, too. But I'm not going to grab the mother and drag her around. >> Joanna, last name. Is this your car? >> Yeah. >> Is registered to you? >> Yeah. >> You want me to walk her in? >> Huh? >> You want me to walk her in? >> Yeah. >> All right, let's go. Go ahead and take it. >> Why are you going to walk me in? >> You're going to jail. >> You're going to jail for what? >> For for what you did. Putting that child in danger like that. That's child. >> Put your Put your foot on. >> Putting my child in danger. >> Put your shoe on. >> I can't. >> Yeah. You're getting charged for domestic battery and child. >> Yeah. >> Wait, what are you talking about? That's my child. >> Okay. >> That's my child. >> Let's go. >> What are you doing? >> Let me go get you a victim's right pamphlet and uh case number. >> What are you doing? >> You're going to jail >> for what? >> For exactly what he just told you. Battery and and child. >> Battery and child. How was that even possible when I was trying to get my baby when it was my turn to get him? >> If you don't walk, you're going to get drugged. So, I'm just letting you know. >> Get what? Drug. I don't do >> Watch your step. Can you have one of them come out and grab her? >> Grab me for what? My child. >> Don't move. You don't have anything on you. Phone, keys, money. >> I have nothing but love for >> any kind of weapon on you or anything. Yeah, >> I came to pick my slime up. >> Okay. I'm just asking you cuz if you bring anything inside here, it's a charge. >> Well, that's great. Well, I came here to pick my slime up what I did. >> I'll be in a second. >> She My wife said she smell alcohol on her. >> And when I got close enough when she was trying to take some, I could smell it. Our court paperwork says that neither of us are supposed to drink or do. And if she can be tested, that would be awesome because >> depending on whatever the court paperwork says is how they'll do it. >> I can't force her to. You can't force her to. You know, >> you know what I mean? >> No, I know. So, >> I just It's We just started a our 50/50 where she gets them for a week, we get them for a week. This was a two-day we get them back on Wednesday. Our whole thing is to keep them safe, >> right? >> And as it should be. >> How this whole thing started was I was giving him a hug by before I gave him to her and he was holding right on me, holding on me. So, I was hugging him. He said like, "All right, give me my son." I said, "Well, no." I said, "I'm still [ __ ] No, you're done. Your time's up." Like, "Come on." I said, "I got till 6:00. That's when the, you know, I can hold till 6:00 if I want to." Cuz that's when the time to switch, >> right? And then that's when she just I told her, I said, "Go back over to your car." I said, "Bring him over there." And she just kept going, going, going about it. And and then she come over there and started trying grabbing a hold of my arm, pulling on me, trying to get him. As soon as you all started doing that, we said, >> "Yeah." No, I I appreciated that. I'm not gay. There's cameras out here, too. So, >> yeah. That's why >> Did he get your phone number? >> No, sir. >> I'm going to need your phone number. >> That's why I put this spot as our pick up and drop off because I can't trust her. >> I tell people she she she lies to she can't tell the truth and her life depended on it. So, what's your first one now? What do I need to do? Um I've I've not been in this until just recently. She's kept them. Wouldn't hardly ever let me have them for the first part of his life. And so we finally ended up getting them because she was all crazy and everything, you know, acting and everything. And we ended up taking her to the hospital. We kept them. We have had them for the past 6 months until it was court ordered that, you know, what the visitation stuff was. Do I need to notify the court or do anything with this whole situation date? The court's going to be aware cuz we got to send that. >> All right. So, we don't we don't give him to her until after. You got to get in touch with whatever it says on the paper. >> Okay. I'll look. >> If it's 50/50, it's 50/50. Right. >> Right. Right. It's >> But depending on what he's going to say right here is how we go about doing it >> because he going to tell you exactly what you should do. >> Right. >> Y'all constantly have problems like this on top exchange or what? >> No, we've been doing it. >> We just started the first actual 50/50 where she had them for 5 days. >> Is it court ordered or y'all just >> ordered? Okay. Um she we had where she had them for a couple days here and there just to get broke into it and then this is the first time when we got him back the last time she kept trying to call and check on him because it and what I don't know is it looked like he had a little bit of a black eye up around here in his nose and under here. I took a picture of it but it was hard to make it out. >> Um and for two days she tried to call and check up on him seeing if he was all right. He was basically dehydrated when we got him to the house cuz he got in the truck and he said I'm thirsty. So we we just live in little farms. >> So we went home. He got stuff to drink >> and he was exhausted and he fell asleep by 6:40 that night and woke up for a few minutes few hours later and then slept for the rest of the time for another 12. He slept for 12 hours total. >> Wow. >> So he's not getting the sleep that he's supposed to get. >> And if he doesn't go to the bathroom before he goes to bed, chances are he's going to have an accident. And he didn't go to the bathroom until the next morning after he woke up. So he was definitely lacking fluids. But yeah, this is the first time that we've had >> What was the deal about tonight? >> Tonight, >> we was kind of listening to what was going on, but >> I took him out of his thing and she walked right over here, was standing here behind me, and he was holding right on to me tight. So, while he was holding on to me, I was going to make sure I comforted him, gave him a good hug and everything. And so, I was. And all of a sudden, she goes, "Your time's up. It's my time. Give me my son." >> Right. >> And I said, "No." I said, "I have, you know, I'm still hugging him." And she started in going. She go, "No, you need to give me my son." I said, >> "You had till 6:00." Yeah, 6:00 is our time, >> right? >> And we don't rush her if she wants to hug him or whatever, spend time with him. >> She was just trying to say goodbyes and she was I mean, we heard her yelling, "Give me my son. Give him my son." And then all of a sudden, she grabs you and the kid. >> Um, >> is she a drinker or what? >> Yes. >> Is she? >> I know that from >> I mean, I could smell alcohol on I didn't know her to to drink a lot before, >> but where she was living at before, her landlord told me why she had gotten where she's not allowed back there, why she had to move. It was because she went to a party and she got drunk and she was hitting on the landlord when he was taking her home and hanging out the window of the vehicle and >> and everything else. >> Trying to get full custody. That's why we brought everything there. There was a DCF case and everything, but because there wasn't hard evidence on anything, unfortunately, it ended up being 50/50. >> So, but in all of our court, >> there have been domestic violence between you two in the past. Anybody ever went to jail? >> Little things. She never went to jail. She picked something up when she was living at my house and threw it at me and hit me with never reported or anything. >> Never. I mean, I made up I did a plea of court on that at that point, but that's fine. >> But that was four years ago. Um, so Jones is my deputy here, but I'm going to go ahead and do the case. Um, >> so is this the only child you have with her? >> Yes, sir. >> Are they your child? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Where were you at? >> I She was in >> I noticed it was getting violent. I ran over there to the visit the emergency phone. >> You was here the whole time that she was arguing. >> That was happening. Okay. >> And so I ran up to go get someone on the phone cuz I I could smell alcohol and I knew it was going to get bad. >> Yeah. We were sitting there listening to it, but we're like, it's just arguing for the time being. But then when it become physical when we come on over here, hitting on you and grabbing you. >> Um, it's domestic battery. Whether you're married or not, you have a child in common, it'll forever be domestic. >> Um, so what's going to happen is I'm going to have to send a copy to DCF and they will be included, too, because the violence was taking place in front of them and in their presence. Not that anything's going to come of it or bad of it. Uh likely what'll happen, maybe a DCF worker will come just talk to them, make sure everything's okay. Um I don't see any major marks on that one. Um but not that you're going to be under investigation by DCF or anything. It's just something we have to do when violence occurs in front of the children. On top of that, there'll be a uh there'll be a uh court order against her. um probably not to come within so many feet of you. Being you do have a child together, there'll be some different type stipulation in there, >> right? >> Um and she'll have to abide by whatever the judge imposes on her. Okay? So, if if things get out of control and she's not abiding by, let's just say, no harmful contact and something like this takes place again, well, that's harmful contact. It it's not necessarily always your choice. Um because a lot of times in in partnered relationships or having a child, they're like, "Oh, I don't really want Well, >> no, I'm I'm perfectly fine with that. I really am." >> So later on there'll be state attorney hearings. Probably both of you is going to need to come talk to the state attorney on um even if the children come. Um >> Yeah. No, that's fine. Is she going to be tested for alcohol? >> Uh no, but I mean I'm going to indicate that I smelled a profound >> because odor of an alcohol paperwork. We're not allowed to drink. And I don't drink, but we're not allowed to drink around when we have him. >> Yeah. >> So, she showed up here drunk to get him. >> Yeah. And I mean, I'm going to indicate all that. >> That's child endangerment right there. >> Oh, yeah. So, um >> and that that's one reason why I don't want going with her is because I can't trust that he's safe. >> I will be in contact with y'all about the state attorney hearing. Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Y'all have a good night. >> Yes, sir. Thank you. >> I'm going to go over here and talk to her. Come on down here with me real quick. Go ahead. Have a seat. >> Right out of her. >> Have a seat right here. >> Right out of my arms. right out of my arms for no reason at all. >> I'm corpor. I'm the one out there who's dealing with that. So, what I'm going to do is since you're in custody, you're inside the jail, I'm going to read you what's called Miranda. Okay. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say could be held against you in court. You understand your rights? >> Yes, sir. >> What was that whole deal about out there? >> I went to go pick my son up. He said that he was not going to give them to me, that he did not have to give them to me until it was the time exactly that I needed to go back to my car. And then he struck him out of my hands and then I went to go grab him. >> You think that's the best interest of that child to pull along it that way? >> I think that it was my time and that we were going to do that and then he thought that maybe >> No, I don't think that was >> what happened. What happened? What happened if that daddy fell? hit that child's head on the side of that car and what >> and that would hurt my baby. >> Oh, sure it would have. But it would have been all all been caused by your actions. >> It would have been caused by my actions that it was my time to come pick my child up and he took him out of my hands. >> What time what time is the child exchange? >> Um, exactly at Give me a second. Jeez. Um, 6:00, >> right? Do you remember what time it was? It was like 6 or 5:50. >> Okay. So, it's fair to say it was not 6:00 yet. >> No, it was not 6:00 yet, but he had came early. We always come early. We always come early. >> But he said the boy was giving him loves telling him goodbye. >> He was not giving him loves. >> I seen the child was wrapped around his neck. I was sitting right there the whole time watching. >> He was going to be wrapped around my neck. >> I understand. But but at that time when y'all was in the midst of your arguing, immediately >> I get it. He was wrapped around his neck. But what about when he was going to be wrapped around my neck? >> But it wasn't time for it to take place. >> Okay. It wasn't time. I get it. But I'm the one that raised him all the way until 5 6 months old by myself when he kicked us out because he couldn't handle it. >> Does that make him any less of a father? >> You darn right it does. Now he's got a wife and he wants to be of God. You darn right it does. >> But does that make it right? >> Yes, it does make it right. They made it right for you to do what you did >> to grab my son and say, "Come on, >> remove him." You had his arm stretched out pulling on that child. >> First of all, negative. I would never hurt my child. >> There's video of it. >> I don't hurt my child. I would not hurt. >> Maybe not intentionally, but inadvertently you would. >> I would not hurt my child. >> Not intentionally, probably. >> Not intentionally, nor never. That's my child that I raised since birth. But your actions that you did? >> My actions did nothing but try to get my child in my custody away from somebody that was being vindictive. >> Okay. Uh, how you had a drink tonight? >> I haven't had anything to drink tonight. Now, would you stop with that? Can I please ask you a question? >> Yes, you asked me. >> I need you to just give me my child back and quit. >> No, your child went with him. >> Yeah, I know. But why? It was my turn. >> Cuz you're under arrest. And why is that? >> For battery on him. The male >> battery. I didn't touch him. >> And then the child, you're getting charged for. You pulled on your child's arms >> to get him out of his hands cuz he was being crazy. >> And when the father stumbled off the curb because of you pulling so vigorously. >> I couldn't even feel anything on the curb. It was the curb. >> I know. I watched the >> That's not fair. How can I do anything on a curb? >> I don't know. You was dragging him toward your car. >> Dragging him towards my car. I couldn't even do anything on the curb. >> There is a curb off the sidewalk. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's no way I could do anything on a curb. >> It caused the father holding the child >> to stop like this because >> obviously I can't do anything on a curve. >> I don't know what you're talking about doing anything on. >> I'm saying there's no way I can grab a child or grab a father on a curve. It's a curve. There's no way possible. It's a curve. >> Did you not understand? >> If you try to grab anyone on the curve, you're going to fall right or left. >> Right. So, >> why would you do that? >> I don't know why you did that. >> Because I was trying to hold myself up. I was trying to hold myself upright. >> Okay. Is it because of the intoxication? >> There is no intoxication. I was trying to hold myself upright >> for what? >> To get my baby in my custody. I bet you can't pull on your child like that. >> Honey, >> I went to bring him to me, >> sweetheart. I went to bring my child to me. >> I understand what you're saying. >> No, you're not. >> But what I've seen, that's not a norm. >> Okay. What you might have seen is untrue because I'm trying to tell you exactly what happened. And I can tell you piece by piece, brief by brief, minute by minute, second by second, exactly everything that happened with my child. >> How long do you think I was standing there listening to all that go on >> the whole time? >> Sure, I was. And I was fine with the arguing. That's fine. You can argue all you want. >> Okay. Well, what did I do except try to grab my baby and then I couldn't because of the curve? >> I know. >> It was the curve. No, there was >> grabbing on the baby's father. You're >> there was nothing because of the curb. I went to grab my baby and the curb went like that and >> but you started. So where you parked? >> This was your car. This is his to me. I I've seen it all. >> No way. >> All right. So you're over here yelling and screaming to begin with. >> There is no way. I >> Then you go after him on the other side of his truck. >> You start. >> Yes. You start grabbing on the father. That's when we started walking over there. >> He was supposed to give me my baby and he was giving him to me because it was that time. And he said that. >> He said, "Okay." >> No. He said he was waiting because his son was hugging him, grasping him tightly. >> Oh, don't try that. >> And it was not 6 It was not 6. Don't try the monkey jazz. Don't try the monkey jazz. >> It was not 6:00 yet. >> Don't try the monkey jazz. Don't try the monkey jazz. is not here to jazz you at all. >> There is no monkey jazz on me. I said, "Give me my baby. It's time." And he said, "It ain't time for him." I said, "Well, give me my baby." And then he went like this and then pulled him back and I said, "Give my baby." And that was what happened. >> Okay. >> There is no child abuse. There's no nothing. It is what it is. There was a curve right there which made it very very very hard to be able to maneuver either one of us to where it looked like it was even any way shape or form where it would be because we'd be at some type of angle each one of us. >> Mhm. >> Where we could be like going like this at the time. Yeah. It wasn't my time yet. You're right. >> Okay. >> You're right. You're right. I'm wrong. You're absolutely right. >> Unfortunately, it sucks. That's But that's not how we do business. >> You're right. But that's not how we do business. >> No. You know what? You're right. It was not my time. It was not my time. But he was giving him to me and I we always come 20 to 30 minutes early. >> I understand. >> Okay. And I understand that you don't understand that I was just coming to get my baby >> and what happened was what happened. And because we were on a curb, it looked like I was grabbing my child. Five more minutes with that child. What would it have hurted you? It wouldn't have hurt. >> Sat there and been civil and said, "Okay, enjoy." >> I was civil, darling. >> I listened to the whole thing. He was not raising his voice. He was the one constantly yelling and screaming, "Give me my baby. Give me my baby. I'm the one that raised the baby." I know you was. You said, "I'm the one that raised the baby for five whole months that you was not around. That's my baby. Give me my baby." And when it was time for her to give me my baby girl. >> He just said it wasn't. It still was not the >> Then why was he trying to hand them to me? He kept >> I never saw him try to hand them to you. >> Well, let's review it then. >> I will. I will. But I witness. >> Let's review it cuz he did and then he stopped and he did and he stopped cuz I remember trying to do it. >> Well, well, that's not how we do things. We don't we don't I understand. We don't we don't grab the child by the arm. >> That's my baby. >> Stretch it out like it's a chicken. >> That's my child. >> I understand it's your child, >> but your emotions got the best of you tonight. >> My emotions have nothing to do with my child and stretching it out like a chicken. I've had that chicken in my belly since birth. >> There's no way we're going to be stretching out anything. >> I understand >> that's with my child with this man that came and decided to be a dad. at at 6 months old or a year and 6 months when he had a wife and then now all of a sudden he wants to be Mr. Let's do this and that. >> He wants to be >> No sir. >> Uh-uh. That's great. And I'm very very very grateful for that. But that don't mean he can go and do this kind of monkey. >> He didn't do nothing. >> He didn't do nothing. >> He was telling the baby bye. Oh, >> he was consoling the baby. >> Oh, he was consinging my baby. He was cons. >> He was consulting my baby that he kept trying to give to me. He was doing like this to me. He went like this to me and I went to go grab him. >> Yeah. Your car was towed by um Total Roadside. >> Okay, that's great. Why'd you do that? >> Because I I can't have it parked out there. And you're under arrest. >> Why am I under arrest? Because my child >> under arrest for battery against the father and >> battery. >> Yes. By pulling on both of them. And it battery is any un any any any unwanted touch. Okay. You understand? >> Any unwanted touch. >> If you reached in to grab that child and you touched him, that's battery. >> Are you insane? >> No, ma'am. By >> I went to get my baby cuz it was time for me to take my baby. >> You don't physically remove things. Are you insane right now? >> No, ma'am. >> You're trying to tell me because I went to take my baby when it was time for me to take my baby. You're you're >> Yes. >> You're arresting me? >> Yes. Um >> Wow. >> Yes. Um so it's battery on him. >> Wow. >> And that's domestic and there's going to be it's either going to be child endangerment or or child of not >> Wow. What? >> What? >> For the child? >> For my baby? >> Yes. >> You're going to do what with my baby? for placing the child in the endangered situation he was in. >> What are you talking about? >> By pulling on him the way you pulled on him. >> Pulling on my child to get him towards me >> while it was time. >> We don't do that. You'll get a bond tomorrow morning when you see the judge. >> What the what? >> Yeah, it's domestic. I can't set a bond for you. >> Oh my goodness. >> Yeah. So, um, what's your address? >> I don't know. >> You don't know where you live? >> No. >> Okay. There's the address on your license where you live. >> It doesn't matter. >> And your numbers? >> Matters. I ain't doing nothing. You guys want to do this crap to me. I ain't doing >> It's not me doing it to you. >> I'm sorry. I can't help you. You can't help me. I ain't helping you. >> I ain't trying to be that way. >> Well, I ain't trying to be that way either. >> Well, I'm doing you as courtesy to come over here. >> I'm telling you, I ain't going to do nothing if you can't do nothing. >> Wow. >> It is what it is. >> I have to do >> I love you, but you guess what you did was you took my baby away from me. >> No, ma'am. Yes, sir. >> I protect that child. >> You did not protect my child. You took my child away from >> I also believe you'd be under the influence. >> So, I mean, that's not a great thing. >> Wow. >> You know, do you drank alcohol? >> Just stop. >> Okay, that's fine. You can go on by yourself. That's good. The woman was charged with child neglect and simple